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    Scott Moderator Post Number: 1746 Registered: 12-1999 |
Trouble within the Vatican http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090417/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_condoms | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 01-2009 |
With the Earthquakes happening in Italy and now Afghanistan and all the uprising in the Vatican and Israel threatening to bomb Iran is it now that we will witness the prophesized events of a third world war? It all is leading in my mind to something happening soon. Im no prophet or able to do prophesy but from what I can see maybe we are heading into major problems on Earth. If there isnt enough problems with overpopulation, religion etc Asket: - The Creation is the basic foundation of life and all existence. In the force of The Creation, we fulfill our mission, which is not only of cosmic, but all-universal importance, because The Creation IS the life, and The Creation IS the existence | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 156 Registered: 10-2007 |
world war three is nothing to get excited about; when you feel fear do something pysically active such as jump rope- and they are very cheap to buy. Keep your mind active afterwards and study German so you can read some of Billy's masterpieces and apply those words to read in your life. Salome- Corey | ||
Johnnybalmain Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2007 |
Hi All, I think the ww3 event is tied into the fall of the catholic church eg the last pope then the announcement of a Petrus Romanus outside of Rome. Probably because Italy, and Rome, have fallen into the sea. I am just offering opinions here, but I would'nt be surprised if Isreal struck against Iran when every other nation is predisposed in helping Italy. I've lost count is there another pope to come after benny or not. Peace John | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 270 Registered: 07-2008 |
Greetings to all, Good point, Corey: acknowledging the power of thoughts and staying neutral-positively focused should indeed be the challenge and attitude. REQUEST Corey, could you please get in touch with Jamesm(webmaster@futureofmankind.co.uk) or with me(aepsilonm@hotmail.com)? Thanks and salome, Adam. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 130 Registered: 06-2008 |
Johnybalmain. Regarding the final pope. Yes one more after papa ratzi. Somewhere among the discreet discussion groups was mentioned a black cardinal from Nigeria as being the last one. There are other discussions centering on the Catholics (Jesuits) desire to rule through a pope based in Jerusalem which off course is not possible due to it being occupied by islamics & jews who wont vacate the site without a struggle. Cheers. | ||
Yoid Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 12-2008 |
So many bad things are happening at the same time.If dark age come,humans are finished.Henoch prophecies become reality?If become then the game is over(at least for our current reincarnation). | ||
Johnnybalmain Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 11-2007 |
Ramirez Well does that mean that Italy survives till the next Pope is installed and when he goes under with Rome then petrus romanus is appointed. It is he who rules over the catholic church and its demise. These words I remember being relayed by Billy or a contact visit. I know nothing of discreet discussion groups.By the way tv channel 7 in nsw australia just held a newspoll about how many believe in ufos and aliens and the response was 81 percent in the affirmative. Peace John | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 157 Registered: 10-2007 |
I think that is one of the reasons no dates are given for looming negative events/ to ensure fear does not overtake the studier. Thank you for the offer but I am not much of a translator there are others who are much more qualified then I am/and this responsibility permission and instruction should lie centrally balanced with FIGU and Billy which also indicates for the rest of us Billy work truly speaks for itself if you can read and reread it and like anyone I am still beginning to learn. learning German and what worked/works for me: * Pimsleur I-III * the ringbound visual German adjectives and adverbs flashcards by Language Express * German verbs 101 by Penton Overseas some workbooks such as German Verb drills 3rd edition by Astrid Henschel work well also for the learner/ | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 77 Registered: 04-2006 |
It may well be that we are in for a rough go for a while but yours and my purpose here is to spiritually evolve. It's best not to focus too much on the prophecies but to balance your approach to life with study and application of truth upon your life. Focus on things that you can do to make a difference in this place which will be, in my opinion, is to work on self and the thoughts that we are sending out and around us that effect our part of this world. Here is an excerpt that has helped me from contact 10 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_10 121. The human who adheres to Creation's laws is the most blessed and most fearless being. 121. Der Mensch, der die Schöpfungsgesetze befolgt, wird zum gesegnetesten und furchtlosesten Wesen. 122. His will is insurmountable, his dedication immeasurable and endless, and his wisdom and love are constant and perfect, not capricious and full of doubts, like it is the case with those who are dependent from religions or generally those who are led astray in some way. 122. Sein Wille ist unüberwindlich, seine Hingabe unermesslich und endlos, und seine Weisheit und seine Liebe beständig und vollkommen, nicht wetterwendisch und voller Zweifel, wie die der Religionsabhängigen und der sonstig Irregeleiteten im allgemeinen. 123. His mind resembles the wide, endless sea and does not let itself come out of its rest. 123. Sein Sinn gleicht dem weiten, unendlichen Meer und lässt sich nicht aus der Ruhe bringen.???? 124. He does not tremble with fear. 124. Er zittert nicht vor Angst. 125. Therefore, the human may unfold his spiritual mind that is not anymore reached by any degenerated negative force. Peace, Matt B. | ||
Dev New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2009 |
It appears that Henoch prophecies are going to be fulfilled. In the event of that happening what does or the Plejarens say we do? Do we fight, retire to mountain or cave or South Amerierca, or just resign ourselves to the inevitable outcome that this current incarnation is over and hope for better luck next time? I wonder what Billy is planning on doing? Will the Plejaren's take him with them, or will he be in the same boat as us fending for our lives and lives of loved ones? I really wish the Plejarens would take me to Erra or if not the Pleajarens some other advanced spiritual race. I have always felt like I was born on the wrong planet and when I heard the Plejaren's describe their planet it sounded like the best place for me to be. Quiet, peaceful, logical and people caring for each other and for the animals and ecosystems. They even said they can effectively rewire your mind to bring you up to speed with the the only trade-off of your personality. Well, as the personality is not real anyway and what is real is ones spirit and ones purpose to unite with the supreme, I'd rather have that over any kind of sense-distractions anyday. I hope at some point in my spiritual evolution I can become spiritually mature enough to be given such an opportunity. I would prefer not be reincanating on Earth over and over again. I am not from this world. | ||
Yoid Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2008 |
Look I dont think it will be good to be in the middle of shooting,starving,epidemic disease,chemical and biological weapons used on you. | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 78 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hello Dev, In our most primitive selves lies the desire to protect ourselves from harm and discomfort. The current Plejaren society was not arrived at without much struggle, war, death, and heartache. What ultimately turned them from their ways was each individual taking responsibility for their lives. We must each of us accept the fact that this is our reality and the only way to change it is to get to work and change yourself and thereby make this planet better. We must ground ourselves somewhere, why not right here right now. Just look at the challenges all around you, it's exciting to be alive to be able to look fear and uncertainty in the eye and say this is my planet, this is my home, this is my life and I'm going to go for it, and not cower away to somewhere peaceful. So what if we suffer, cry or die because after all we will be back again in the next life even more ready to get the job done. Get tough and start working on your own inner planet and then you will find the power and freedom to change this outer one. With Love and Peace, Matt B. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 159 Registered: 10-2007 |
well said Redbeard that was very inspirative; speaking of ancient interstellar war our planet has 19 years 11 months and 25 days until the date given for the first Destroyer comet impact. probably the first of so many difficult lessons for our planet     hopefully through all the mentioned negative times we will not forget what it is that makes us human but it some ways we may precisely redifine what that means. It sounds like it could be rough for a few incarnations but for our current lifecycle we still have our books to read/study and personal sphere to look after. | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 59 Registered: 03-2007 |
Corey, The Destroyer Comet will never return again or make contact with the Earth. The date you give refers to the Red Meteor. | ||
Dev New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2009 |
How exactly does one work on their inner planet? I meditate, I read a lot of spiritual literature, I try to remain calm and noble, is that working on your inner planet? What should one do when all the missiles start flying, the diseases start spreading, society starts rupturing? Retire with your family to a safe place, or stay and help others, or stay and fight with others? I have always been a thinker more than a worker, but I realise this that is my biggest shortcoming. I just don't find anything to work for, everything seems meaningless to me in the world. The only thing that excites me is the introspective part of life. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 131 Registered: 06-2008 |
Dev. Welcome to the forum. After reading the contents of your post 1 in another section this statement appears to be something of a paradox. "I just don't find anything to work for, everything seems meaningless to me in the world. The only thing that excites me is the introspective part of life." Already you demonstrate an awareness not generally available to probably most persons you might pass on the street. If you should personally experience some sort of catastrophic event as it unfolds the required responses will be instinctive. Learning about your inner world is no easy task particularly considering the difficulty in finding others engaged along a similar journey that you might share with whose minds are not attached to various firmly held beliefs. In this aspect being free of questionable beliefs is already a substantial milestone behind you. Personally I think you are being somewhat pessemistic regarding the Henok prophesies as those behind the curtain steering world events towards their desired version of an outcome are not seeking total destruction, rather a situation where they might emerge with most of the advantages concentrated in such a way as to enable perpetual control. It is not meaningless to learn about the world, what it really is, who you are, what your relationship towards the world and others consists of, who has and is making the major decisions, why, how you can participate more meaningfully & effectively towards ensuring a beneficial future for humanity. Knowledge is power .... there is so much knowledge available  Empower yourself and participate through learning. If you can look back at yourself in 6 months after reading this and say ... now I know more, that is progress, more progress than can be obtained through socializing, watching television, gambling, alcohol, drug taking, participating in violence etc. Cheers. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 822 Registered: 10-2007 |
***** These things have been appearing all over the Earth. At least 20 different ones have been photographed, some low at tree-top, and some at a thousand-feet or more (300-meters+). Seem to be some sort of monitor probes. The REALLY interesting thing about these, is they are using some sort of electrostatic ANTI-GRAVITY, AND seem to be intelligently controlled. Here is a link to the most recent...: http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1548&category=Environment Drone Holland:  Drone Central California:  Drone Big Basin:  Intriguing machines. WHO are driving these things, WHAT are they doing, WHERE does this technology come from, WHY are they worldwide over lakes, parks, and peoples homes.?!? Peace ***** You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped) Rod | ||
Indi Member Post Number: 309 Registered: 06-2006 |
Rod, those probes have been discussed on this forum before or at least the California one, and they also have been shown to be a hoax maybe 2 yrs ago | ||
Dev New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2009 |
[quote]why, how you can participate more meaningfully & effectively towards ensuring a beneficial future for humanity[/quote] Thanks for your help Ramirez. It is this one I quoted above that most confuses me. I am really struggling or rather confused on how to find my place in this world and how to contribute. At this moment I have become very reclusive. I do not drink, smoke or do drugs, I do not socialise(because I cannot connect to most people) I am a gentle soul so no participation in any violence. I am virtually stopped watching television because I realise it is only a means of ideological control and most of it seems to be designed to dumb people down. At this moment I am pretty much caught up in my inner world. I read a lot of literature, I ponder over the mysteries of life and the universe, but when it comes to the social dimension of my life I have very much shut it down. I know this is not healthy, but before I can find something to work for and realise what my call is(my dharma) I feel a bit aimless in the world. I sometimes consider just completely renouncing the world and joining an Ashram and concentrating completely on my spiritual growth. You see the problem with our current society is that this crucial and formative stage in the developmentment of an individual where the individual can discover who they are, where they are from and what their mission is, is lacking or virtually absent. In the past in Vedic times, from the age of 5-7 the child would be sent to the Guru(spiritual preceptor) that dedicate at least 15 years of their life to spiritual development(some dedicated 30, some 50, and some their entire life) and once they were spiritually mature they would go out into the world and contribute. I am in a position where I feel that I am still underdeveloped to contribute to the world, that I am missing that crucial formative stage in my personality. So you might ask me? Why don't I just retire and go to an Ashram? It is because of commitments - social maya - that I am trapped. My spirit wants to be set free, but my body will not allow it. My family are not very happy with my decision to renounce the world, they tell me spirituality can be followed while at home as well, and renouncing the world is tantamount to cowardice. Is it really? Most of the greatest saints and Gurus escapes the world to concentrate on their spirituality, even when they are children. I think you noted correctly regarding me not being like most people in the world. I think I am an older spirit form than most people, which explains my predeliction to spirituality. I must have incarnated in these changing times for a purpose, but I am not sure what that purpose is. If the Henoch prophecies are true I may never find out in this life what that purpose was. I have somewhat become resigned to the fact that this maybe a wasted incarnation. Sorry if this sounds pessemistic or negative. It's only the truth of who I am at this point in time. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 341 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello Dev i know how you are feeling because i felt somehow similar to you at some point in my life first of all you should know that if one is happy or not (regardless of what happens in the world outside of you) is a personal decision, happiness is self created mental state and so is sadness, if you decide to be happy then you can, anywhere at anytime (of course we all pass through difficulties, death of someone close to you, disease, accidents, etc. But most of the time one can have the control of all that happens, some things you cannot control but you can control how you react to them) Now, second: how can you help improve the world? First improve yourself, get rid of vices, practice virtue (honesty, patience, perseverance, solidarity, etc.) its no easy task, its easier said than done, but you should always start with yourself, you can´t give what you don´t have and you can´t teach what you don´t know. Now, according to Billy the main problem that is cause of all major problems in the world (wars, epidemics, lack of food and house, criminality and almost anything bad that you can imagine) is called OVERPOPULATION, search in the FIGU website and you will find about it and how to help. And if you REALLY want to help to improve the world there is also something called the Peace Meditation, again you can find the info on the website. .................. And now, about living like a monk on a mountain in the Tibet (or anywhere else) Each one of us must walk his own path, to be alone and far away from anyone else can be good at some times but also bad at others. It´s your choice, what you should know, is that no matter what you do and no matter where you are, you are and you will always be a human being, and so your destiny is tied with that of all other human beings, we are social beings, and so even with all the problems that you can find in the relationships with other beings, in the end its part of a process, its part of evolution, you can´t deny what you are, if you "renounce to the world" and its problems then you are renouncing to a part of yourself, work on yourself, face your everyday problems as a human being, search for other human beings like you, there are many out there, the power of your thoughts is immense, if you think you are alone in the world then you are, if you think that you aren´t then again its true, if you think that something is impossible then you are right, if you think it is possible then again you are right. The key to achieve anything that you want in life is in your thoughts. Think positive, concentrate in what you want and forget what you despise. Learn from the persons who are really wise (Billy!!!). Search for true friendship and true love, be honest and give you best in all and it is absolutely impossible to fail (a man who give his best is never a failure, all serves a purpose). Finally i recommend Billy´s Desiderata which you can find in the website. In few words he tell us how to live a life that is worth living. I hope this has been helpful take care | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 823 Registered: 10-2007 |
***** Hello Dev, Just come in here to chat with you, no particular agenda. I think that most of us who have found our way here to this Forum are more likely the Spiritually advanced ones on Earth. We know Truth when we find it. It is what I was seeking, and I still have a long way to go on my path. Actually, the path is endless until we finally merge back with the Creation. We all come to share our perspectives on the teachings, to assist one another in our personal growth, to point to the signposts we have found along each of our paths to get where we are, how best to get to the next mountain or valley seen ahead. Every one stumbles from time to time. The purposeful, the strong, those with goals pull themselves back up, admit where they went wrong, find how to get back on the path. Despair can overtake those which are lost in the Maya, those which think the material world is all, those thirsting for Spiritual Truth and don't know where to find it. We know the better way. None of us here is all-knowing, else we would not have reincarnated this time. Brighter days are ahead for you - keep this in mind when the going gets tough. You have an idea to go into an Ashram. That's really not a bad idea. Consider six months to a year for some intense study in some new meditation practices. Study the Sanskrit and read the original Vedas. I am aware that over the past thousands of years, that the original teachings have become corrupted in one way or another. Get as close to the source as you can. That is one path to knowledge. Then as you study the teachings which have come to us more recently from the Plejarens, from the levels of Arahat Athersata, and from the Spirit of Nokodemjon which is Billy, you will find your Spirit can soar, your consciousness will be expanded. Grow in knowledge, gain experience in the daily practice of Truth, and you will find yourself to grow in Wisdom. You could join with a small group of us from the Forum here, engaged in promulgating the Global Birth-Stop initiative for World-wide Population Reduction. This answers the call of the Prophet. To get more knowledge on what this is all about, go to this link below at Future-of-Mankind, read the petition and the reference links. The goal of this, is to make governments and organizations, and ultimately all Humans on Earth aware of our self-imposed runaway procreation. Awareness should then lead to action for a humanitarian reduction of the total World population to less than one-Billion. The final goal to be around 530-Million for a sustainable Earth, where none go hungry, all receive proper medical care, proper education, a world without wars and bloodshed, enough resources for everyone to share, and the Earth can recover to a natural state. Found here..: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Special:Petition If you then want to become active with this, we can add you to our roundtable email list. There is no requirement to join. You want to find your own path, so this not to push you in any particular direction. We know that we may not see this all come to pass in our lifetimes, we are planting the seeds now, and expect final results within 800-years. That's the world I want to come back to after a few more incarnations. Surly, a very long-range goal, one that gives us a sense of doing something for everyone on the Earth. This IS one way "how you can participate more meaningfully & effectively towards ensuring a beneficial future for humanity." Do you have a thirst for Truth? In the knowledge from a study in the Spiritual Teachings, your thirst will be quenched. You are with friends here. In Peace ... Salome ***** You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped) Rod | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 133 Registered: 06-2008 |
Dev. A point of reference defining your identity is not fixed. From the terms you use especially "spitituality" there seems to be in your mind a concept of what you might wish to become yet the more you consciously strive towards this elusive image the further out of reach it grows for you are seeking to create instead of becoming. You are you. Experience whatever life brings each day without burdening yourself through carrying a backpack full of I must be this or that expectations. The world is full of persons literally thick as a brick so indeed participating in their company can be frustrating. There is no problem being reclusive. If you have sufficient means to ensure privacy with minimal active social interaction being required pursue that instead of an ashram. If you are after the uidance of a guru you might try Guru Gita. There are 40 3-10 minute videos in a series. Watch one a day before sleeping. Let the information sink in. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7EC5361A4511C896 However from experience I can only say there is no substitute for experience. Freedom is self discovery, finding yourself will attract the required persons as you progress along that journey. Cheers. |
