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    Ramirez Member Post Number: 148 Registered: 06-2008 |
Kingman. Quote. "I can see how this near revelation of self-responsibility, if it were to take hold on all areas of our planet, would quicken our evolution as an agreeable galactic civilization, thus we could then be helped in many needed ways by others with greater knowledge/wisdom, etc, and yet still being in proper creational harmony. Not just being 'saved' by others from ourselves and our responsibilities." Shawn. What you state is true, however no-one including Billy has devised an effective transitional method for connecting the average persons consciousness to such insights, certainly not on any large scale simultaneously short of mass shock therapy as may become administered through various wide scale catastrophies. Take for example the present so called "Swine Flu Pandemic" Most recent figures (10 May 2009) confirm 26 people dead worldwide from the specific strain. This pandemic exists in the minds of persons similarly to religion. It is a belief based on conditioning through lies spread by the corporate owned mass media, lack of motivation to research, sheer gullible belief through ignorance. "So, if our calendar is adjusted to now and we are actually already past the 2012 ending, where's the fireworks?" These fireworks will be a combination of natural disasters like volcano eruptions, floods, fires, tsunamis, earthquakes supplemented strategically by short notice wars (Pakistan - Iran), engineered famines, engineered financial collapse of nations, plagues - diseases which can also be engineered or released at short notice as the Swine Flu has been. In combination several such events occurring simultaneously will affect most persons in some way due to general societal disruption of everyday life. How such events are portrayed in the media will affect most persons even more as anticipation & perception based on the expectation of a negative outcome has already been gradually conditioned into populations through religion, education, mass media. Whilst there are and will be some real life events & effects what matters is the individual conceptual process. Probably the numbers reading Billy's material is into the low thousands out of 6.7 billions. Not much of a ratio. There are relatively few aware and prepared to accept this holy grail of self responsibility as most are simply too absorbed in daily existence for such matters to take on any signifigant meaning. "But at the moment I'm more concerned with today, as that is always in my face and I can actually do something about it." You among the few make an effort to educate yourself concerning what reality actually is and break the spell. That's the frustrating struggle of Billy & the mission. How to wake up the remaining 6.7 billion. Cheers. | ||
Sparky Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2009 |
I think you guys are right when you say not to worry about these large events like massive solar storms. I get the sense that we will pull through if they do happen. The point is eventually we will evolve whether here on earth or on some other planet if earth is uninhabitable. Yes, lets focus on what's happening right now, and make a difference. One of the most powerful things we can do is the "Peace Meditation". I have only recently discovered it, but I believe it will change things for the better. Soon we'll be up there with the P's helping other planets and the rest of the Universe unite in peace. | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 780 Registered: 10-2000 |
SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF! Please listen to this report: http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/fbi-interrogater-ali-soufan-testified-t ...and I think that we can take heart that there are some noble, good people, like this former interrogator/agent, who want to do the right thing, even in the face of terrible events and pressures. Now that there are some politicians in the U.S. who are at least opening the door to investigating - and hopefully prosecuting - the perpetrators of these horrendous crimes, we should indeed support and encourage them. Of course, there are those politicians who are probably bought off, blackmailed, etc. who are going to drag their heals and find reasons to delay, obstruct or avoid bringing those to justice who were at the top and responsible for these crimes. Nonetheless, those of us who are justifiably critical of U.S. policies, and who understand what many people don't, i.e. how the laws of cause and effect work, should give full credit where it is due. Michael Horn | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 82 Registered: 03-2007 |
Michael, I suggest you and the forum watch this video. Jesse Ventura in a no holds barred interview discussing torture. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/05/12/lkl.jesse.long.cnn | ||
Dev Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 04-2009 |
Salome, I have been reading David Wilcock's material recently. I seem to be finding new researchers everyday. It's piqued my interest. I've never really been for the "ascension stuff" but how Wilcock presents it makes more sense. It seems to be a plausible account of how reality works and why things are going haywire as we approach 2012. It seems we are reaching a singularity point which could lead to a shift in dimensions. I am still a bit confused on what happens to the people are who are left "behind". I am interested in what Billy has to say about the idea of densities(3rd to 7th), ascension and the RA material. | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 313 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear all, There was a magnitude 5 quake in Los Angeles County an hour ago. There has been an obvious increase in seismic activities with an accompanying increase in magnitude in the west coast and Alaska where in between, Billy predicted the big seaquake near Oregon shore will occur followed by two tsunamis. There was an announcement by a geologist on the local radio station indicating this increased activity after a recent 4.5 or so close to Santa Barbara. Here is a very helpful link to monitor these activities. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/ Salome, Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Marksmanr Member Post Number: 83 Registered: 02-2008 |
Thankyou for the information Zhila.  Indeed this is interesting.Reece Stiller | ||
Edmundo New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2008 |
I'm really confused how much crude oil left on the Earth. China lends big sums to ensure supply (for 10 years from Brazil, for 20 years from Russia). Here news: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aR8BAFRqTRKY&refer=news But from Ptaah's and Billy's conversation I conclude that we have not much time, but how much? http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_469 | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 314 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear Members, For those who are interested, another earthquake with a magnitude of 4.1 on the Richter scale just hit the same area here in California. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Maps/US2/33.35.-119.-117.php Salome, Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1768 Registered: 12-1999 |
Thanks Zhila, I wonder if Northern Ca will have one? | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 315 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear Scott, There has been four big ones (over 4 magnitude) just this last week or so here in the southern California. (West Lake, Santa Barbara, and two in Los Angeles). There were also a few big ones both inland and close to shores of Alaska and South America, of which one or two were 6 on the scale. However, what is rather interesting and in line with what Ptaah and Billy conversed about is the fact that they are getting bigger and more frequent. In fact, a geologist here on the local radio station, admitted that there indeed is an increase on these activities; which were actually calm for a while after the Northridge big one. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/ http://www.theyfly.com/VOLCANOES.htm As far as Northern California, there have been many smaller ones as you can see on the above map. By the way, Aside from Billy and Ptaah, we all have to thank member Johnboy whom in his Post number 11 brought this into my inquisitive attention.  http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/10025.html#POST39985 Salome, Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 77 Registered: 01-2009 |
Creational I have read that scientist are drilling large holes along some parts of the west coast of USA. I dont know when they first started doing this. http://www.scec.org/research/020625pilot.html http://www.usgs.gov/125/articles/sanandreas.html Japan too http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/scientists-complete-first-drill-into-earthquake-generating-region-near-japan_10040674.html Something to think about weather this hole drilling is making the earthquakes worse or not Thanks My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 78 Registered: 01-2009 |
Excerpt from "Contact 371" Ptaah Schuld an Seebeben und Landbeben sind alle jene verbrecherischen Elemente, die Kriege führen, denn durch die ungeheuren Erschütterungen durch Bombenexplosionen und Sprengstoffexplosionen oberirdischer und unterirdischer Art wird die gesamte Erde in ihrer Struktur drangsaliert. All criminal elements that lead wars are responsible for the sea quakes and land quakes, because through the monstrous shaking, through the explosions of bombs and the explosion of explosives of the kind above the earth and under the earth, the entire earth is tormented in its structure. Die ungeheuren Erschütterungen stören die Tektonik der Erde derart, dass unnatürliche tektonische Verschiebungen entstehen, die zu Seebeben und Erdbeben führen. The monstrous shaking disturbs the tectonic plates of the Earth in such a way that unnatural tectonic shifting comes about which leads to sea quakes and earth quakes. Gleichermassen geschieht das durch Sprengungen unterirdischer und oberirdischer Art, wie z.B. beim Bergbau und Minenbau usw. In the same measure this happens through explosions of the subterranean and above-earth kind, as, for example, with mining and excavations and so forth. Durch die Erschütterungen werden aber im tiefen Untergrund auch die Vulkane dermassen beeinträchtigt, dass Eruptionen unausweichlich sind. Also, through the shaking, volcanoes are damaged deep underground to such a degree that eruptions are unavoidable. Auch schwere Maschinen bringen die Erde durch ihre Schwingungen in Aufruhr und stören die Tektonik, wie es auch durch die grossen Städte geschieht, in denen Hunderttausende und gar Millionen von Menschen leben. Also heavy machines bring the Earth into uproar through their vibrations and disturb the tectonics as it also happens through the great cities in which hundreds of thousands, and indeed millions, of people live. Das an solchen Orten konzentrierte Gewicht der Menschen, der Gebäulichkeiten, der Maschinen und Fahrzeuge sowie aller anderen Materialien drückt dermassen auf den Untergrund, dass dadurch die Tektonik sehr stark belastet und beeinträchtigt wird, wodurch verheerende Erdbeben ausgelöst werden, die alles zerstören und viele Menschenleben fordern. The weight of the people, buildings, machines and transport concentrated on such places, as well as all other materials, presses, to an extent, on the underground, which thereby burdens the tectonic plates very severely and damages them, whereby devastating earthquakes are released that destroy everything and demand many human lives. All diese Tatsachen werden jedoch von den zuständigen Wissenschaftlern und von den verantwortlichen Regierenden ebenso missachtet, bestritten und lächerlich gemacht, wie auch allgemein vom Gros der irdischen Menschheit, das sich wie dumme Hammel durch unfähige Leitböcke in die Irre, ins Elend und Verderben führen lässt. However, all these facts will be just as disregarded, disputed and ridiculed by the competent scientists and by the responsible governments, as they also will generally by the majority of the terrestrial humanity, which, like dumb mutton, allows itself to be led by incapable lead rams into error, misery and ruin. So heavy machinery, DRILLING HOLES, shakes and disturbs the tectonic plates. My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 316 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear Stephen_moore, Not to mention that the recent China quake was allegedly due to the heavy man made lakes and dams as accurately predicted by Billy. It is utterly frustrating to watch all these happening under our nose without being able to prevent it. This is the main reason I decided to share this information so, at least members here take some preventive measures while informing thier family and friends about this possibility. Thank you for the additional information and your feedback. Salome Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1404 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Stephen..... I have mentioned what Ptaah said a number of times, here and at the PAR....in the past. [Iraq and Pakistan, etc....Earth Quakes, as being affected!] Clarifies my Logical thinking/analyses of the mentioned matter..... Thank you.... Edward. | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 90 Registered: 04-2006 |
I can also remember reacting with distain as a young man at all the nuclear testing that was done, especially the underground explosions of nukes on our own soil in nevada, unbelievable! Here is a link to yahoo's answer to the question of how many nuclear weapons have been detonated in the world, at least that were reported. One can only imagine the internal stresses, fractures and destabilizing of the earth structure. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070217043358AA6mOJk Matt B.... | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 79 Registered: 01-2009 |
Creational, Edward, Redbeard Thank you In my mind what some groups of Humans are doing to our planet in regard to the information given here relates to complete madness. The powers that be on Earth know full well of Meier's information which Michael Horn has mentioned before. Also when Lee, Brit Elders and Stevens was first investigating the case they was taken to a man named Mark Nathan, a Knights of Malta and I think house of lords member. So since the late 1970's as well as Meier letters he sent before this time the powers that be have known about Earthquakes etc. So by continuing to perform such things as Drilling Holes, Building up Cities even larger, the Overpopulation of Humans and Damming of rivers, they are effectively acting in ignorance and I think its criminal that they do not inform people about the dangers of their actions to the public and also inform people about the Meier information. Of coarse if they did then they would lose all power over the people on Earth so from their point of view it wouldnt be in their best interests. So they are putting the Planet and all life forms on Earth at risk from their own madness and ignorance. Sorry for the long post and I know most people on this forum know of this information but I needed to get that of my chest. Thanks My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1769 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Stephen, It is hard to know what people know, because if people would really take into account reincarnation is real, it may have a bearing on decisions now which will affect them in future times...of course I'm sure on a smaller scale we are guilty of that in our day to day lives as well...knowing something is not in our best interest, yet going ahead and doing it anyway.. Scott | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 01-2009 |
Scott Yes, I have read you mentioning reincarnation before and I agree with you that if people knew without a doubt that they will come back on Earth many times in the future then they would probably do things different in their lives today. I not sure if I understand what you mean by knowing something is not in our best interest. On one hand yes i could agree with you that if we know some thing then it could either make us angry or frustrated etc and yes we could still go and do things regardless of what we know. On the other hand we could gain knowledge and wisdom from what we know and move our lives onto a path that is inline with what we know. This is all interesting for me and I am like everyone else. Trying to make a understanding for myself on the Meier material and hopefully helping others on their understanding. Very intense subjects here. Thanks Scott My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1770 Registered: 12-1999 |
Stephen, In other words, for instance driving to work versus using mass transit..knowing that petroleum is a limited resource and still choosing to be less environmentally conscious and choosing comfort over efficiency...knowing this is probably not in our best interest in the long run. Your Welcome Scott | ||
Jonzie Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2009 |
I did post the answer to Edmundo's question but somehow it was overlooked. The following link - in association with petroleum - demonstrates the murders of humans, technologies, drillings, and control being used to keep people addicted to the use of oil. It also shows the cars of the coming 2100 AD San Fran earthquake and free energy technology that individual inventers are being paid one-BILLION in cash NOT to put on the market. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMMDgjNDndA&feature=related Rat Jones aka Jonzie | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 160 Registered: 06-2008 |
Jonzie. An interesting video which contains parts of several shorter series woven into a longer documentary. Thanks for pointing it out. If this series appeared on prime time TV instead of the news for half an hour a day many people would start to wake up & get the picture. In concert with banking & religion energy manipulation is one of the fundamental levers of worldwide control. Dollar signs across the field of vision generate a powerful incentive to conceal the truth. Cheers. | ||
Jonzie Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 04-2009 |
For all who are interested, there have been over 200 earthquakes in the last 30 days. This is getting serious. http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/qed/ Rat Jones aka Jonzie |
