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    Matthew_deagle Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 08-2007 |
Bob, Note that the miseducation of persons on Earth relates directly to the spiritual teachings, just as issues of beliefs, religion, mind-control and programming do, and it is necessary to discuss these matters in order to discuss the human mind and lead one down the right path of intellectual and spiritual fulfillment. When I say to avoid 'provocations', I mean that we should avoid the kind of outright attacks on financial crimes, land grabs, paedophile rings, ritual murders, etc., which are not usually directly related to the advancement and promulgation of knowledge of the spirit. Mind-control through false beliefs is a direct barrier to this, though, and needs to be discussed in order to make clear how persons should be educated. As heinous as the above-mentioned things are, they are already being exposed by other sources, and the repurcussions on FIGU members would not be good, as we have already seen. Salome, - Matthew | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 273 Registered: 03-2007 |
Matthew, let’s be fair about this. I do not disagree with you on the material in your post. My point was to bring to your attention the double standard that is being applied by you and apparently you refuse to acknowledge. Jean (Skyvenor) as a newcomer to this forum, wrote a rather benign post about the hexagram, its’ use by the Rothschilds, and their influence in establishing the state of Israel. All of which was an historical fact and part of the string in this section. The link of the hexagram to the Jews and state of Israel had already been made. There was no discussion of conspiracy. No discussion of the Illuminati. And as a newcomer she wanted to share something to the discussion, something that was interesting and feel welcomed by the group. But instead, you injected the “conspiracy” and “Illuminati” spin on her post as if she had a political agenda and laid a guilt trip on her by indirectly suggesting she was putting Billy’s life in jeopardy. And then you turn right around and discuss the conspiracy by the Illuminati to dumb down our education system and called them imbeciles. Let’s all play by the same rules here. Shall we? Bob | ||
Peacelovefreedom New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2008 |
Hi all. I am a beginner on this issue. I would like to study symbols using the book "Symbole der Geisteslehre" published by FIGU. Do any of you have any recommendations on how can I study these symbols? For example, can I study them by simply looking one of each symbols at a time? Do I need more books to study those? Do I better memorize the meaning of each symbol? | ||
Syn Member Post Number: 64 Registered: 04-2007 |
heres what i simply used its a font called pleidian which i used to memorize it, since im a geek and i never stop programming i used this font to program and before i knew it i got it mostly packed down within a week. i used it with FontCreator, awesome software.Anyways just throw this in your font folder and its ready. Unfortunately i only have the letters being so that i dont know any other symbols that could be used. http://rapidshare.com/files/117162745/celestial.zip.html They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey | ||
Kiwiseeker Member Post Number: 42 Registered: 08-2006 |
Peacelovefreedom, Bernadette Brand write in the Introduction to `Symbole der Geisteslehre` "Das Buch, das Sie in Ihren Händen halten und das Sie sicher schon durchgeblättert haben, ist kein «Bilderbuch», sondern ein Buch zum Studium der Symbole der Geisteslehre und damit ein Buch, das Ihnen mit jedem einzelnen Symbol ganze Welten und Universen von neuen Gedanken, Einsichten, Erkenntnissen und Zusammenhängen eröffnet, wenn Sie es nur richtig zur Hand nehmen und sich mit den einzelnen Symbolen und dem, was in ihnen enthalten ist, auseinandersetzen." The book, which you hold in your hands and which you surely have already looked through, is not a "picture book", but a book for the study of the symbols of the spirit teachings and thus a book, which reveals to you with each individual symbol whole worlds and a universe of new thoughts, insights, realizations and connections, if you take it only correctly into the hand and give serious thought to the individual symbols and what is contained in them. Furthermore:"Den Gefühlen und Regungen, die sie in uns auslösen nachzuspüren, diese wahrzunehmen und sich mit ihnen auseinanderzusetzen, kann uns auf unserem steinigen und mühsamen Weg der Evolution Schrittchen für Schrittchen weiterbringen." The feelings and movements, that they release in us, to track, to perceive these and to give serious thought to them, can take us further step by step on our stony and arduous way of evolution. "Unsere Reaktionen auf die Symbole sind nämlich nicht neutral, sondern geprägt durch unser Denken und unsere Persönlichkeit. Da sie aber alle Aspekte ihres eigentlichen Wertes beinhalten, öffnen sich uns völlig neue Perspektiven, wenn wir uns offen und freimütig auf ihre Mitteilungen einlassen und diese fortschrittlich und strebsam für unseren Fortschritt nutzen." Our reactions to the symbols are not neutral, but shaped by our thinking and our personality. Since they contain however all aspects of their actual value, completely new perspectives open in us, if we get involved openly and frankly in their communications and use these progressively and ambitiously for our advance. "Sich meditativ auf die Symbole der Geisteslehre einzulassen und sich eingehend mit ihnen zu beschäftigen, ist aufgrund meines eigenen Erlebens ein wertvolles und äusserst hilfreiches Mittel der Selbsterkenntnis, der Selbsterziehung und der Charakter- und Persönlichkeitsbildung." Getting meditatively involved in the symbols of the spirit-teaching and occupying yourself in detail with them, are a valuable and extremely helpful means for self-knowledge, self-discipline and character- and personality-formation on the basis of my own experience. So it is a matter of studying the symbols, which involves contemplation, not memorisation. Repetition will make the symbols become more meaningful. See the Peace symbol and the Spirit-Teaching symbol at the FIGU website-both in colour. Charles. | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 648 Registered: 06-2000 |
Thanks Charles . Having read this introduction again brings to mind the serious nature of the study , and the appropriateness of extensive contemplation of all aspects of it before people start posting instructive commentary . Newcomers , pretending to be masters , can teach only one thing : Immaturity tries hard to impress , with no flowers , candy ,dinner , or even a movie. It's just , "wham , bam , i'm your guru" . Mark Mark Campbell | ||
Adysor Member Post Number: 37 Registered: 03-2008 |
What is the meaning of the number 7 .... As I see Billy Meier uses it very often as well as its multiples, like 49(7x7) In the Bible too there is a multiple use of this number and it is related to the work of God(universe created in 7 days) Thanks Adrian. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1136 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Adysor..... Well, number 7 is an enigma, in general, to some; but if you go to the link below, you will obtain more Insight. In general it is a very Spiritual number; linked to Knowledge and Wisdom. See: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/4224.html?1162333621 Take your time and just scroll downward, and absorb the information, if you will; to the definitions - FIGU Teachings - related. This may give you a greater idea of the concept of the number '7'. Edward. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 05-2008 |
yes, the number 49 seems to have some significance for Billy, as in the number of members of the core group. the number of universes is 10 to the 49th. Also, for UG Krishnamurti, 49 was a big number. His 'calamity' occurred in his 49th year and other significances. anyone have a theory regarding 49 other than its 7 squared? | ||
Peacelovefreedom Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 04-2008 |
Dear Syn, Kiwiseeker, and Markc, Thank you very much for your posting. I haven't got hold of the book of symbols. I am encouraged to have one and study it after reading your comments. Yes, beginner's mind is so important even in studying symbols. It is so easy to be carried away by symbols books in the usual book market. Thank you so much! Wonderful way to study them. Peace love and freedom | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 651 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Plf ; It's a pleasure . This book has some astounding symbols in it , beautiful and creative . Some of them seem to sing to my eyes . Mark Mark Campbell | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 307 Registered: 03-2007 |
Adrian: "What is the meaning of the number 7...as I see Billy Meier uses it very often as well as its multiples, like 49(7x7)" You might find it interesting too, that during Billy's trip to Jordan with Asket, she said that the whole existence of all universes, world bodies, and forms of life can be represented in a perfect mathematical formula that works faultlessly to provide life and death for all. This important mathematical formula consists of numbers three, seven, and twelve. These numbers always appear as the result of an equation, which is a perfect circle with many interims of a multiplication of seven times seven. Asket said that she was not permitted to reveal this formula because this would go against the laws of the ancient-eternal itself. Mankind must solve these riddles for themselves. If humanity were to receive this knowledge too early in their development, then an unpreventable catastrophe would result. Regards Bob | ||
Matthew_deagle Member Post Number: 159 Registered: 08-2007 |
Forum-readers, With regard to the calculation of English Qabalah, I appear to have found at least some of these values, and, employing these, I may observe, with regard to my own name (comparing to the German transliteration of the names in Old-Lyrian): Matthew Justin Deagle = 20 + 17 + 31 = 68 (=14=5) Mataus Justjnus Djdjkol = 18 + 26 + 33 = 77 (=14=5) Meaning of Old-Lyrian names: Mataus (Mataaus) = Der durch die Goetter gesandte. = He who is sent through/by the gods. (note that, in the German transliteration, this has a numerical value of 18=666, corresponding to the change of the word 'Jschwjsch'=666 and 'Gott'=666) Justjnus (Justjjnus) = Der redlich Gerechte. = The probously just/he who is just with probity. Djdjkol (Djdjjkol) = Der Kaempfende. = The struggling/battling/fighting. Overall interpretation: The battling one who is probously just, who is sent by the gods. 68 = (3)17 77 = 7(11) Also note that Justin=17=8 and Justjnus=26=8. Salome, - Matthew | ||
Adysor Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 03-2008 |
Hi all, Thanks for your opinions about the number 7... Now I'm curious what is 666 number meaning? Does it have the same meaning as the religion say? 666 represents devil or the evil.... What does Billy Meier say about this number and how does it influence anyone? Adrian. | ||
Indi Member Post Number: 216 Registered: 06-2006 |
Maybe it would be better for you to read what has already been discussed on the forum about '666' and then come back and discuss what you have found! There are many places to search -- the forum, The futureofmankind site, the Figu site, which can be easily translated as you read with the google translator -- after you have searched these, and have an idea of what Billy and the Plejaren have mentioned about the subject, you will then be in a position to discuss it rather than just ask a question and get an answer. Instead of questions predominating, discussions should predominate. There are no official teachers on this site -- everyone or most people are at some stage of study of the material, and in order to get the most out of any material including the Meier material, first reading and then asking questions about what one has read if there are things not understood, is the usual and a most useful method of learning about anything. I only have the best of intentions in saying this. in peace Robjna | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1152 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Adysor..... Billy once did mentioned, in short: that '666/the number of the Beast', is related to - ALL That Is Negative -. If you utilize the search engine above, you will accumulate more insight to the number; I have posted in the past a number of postings concerning this, which are excerpts from Billy/FIGU materials. It is Multifold in definition, you will come to understand. Edward. | ||
Behzad Member Post Number: 57 Registered: 04-2008 |
hello, somebody please kindly send the Spiritual Symbols Link to me. Salome Friends | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 96 Registered: 07-2008 |
Hier, Kamerad Behzad: http://www.figu.org/ch/fgallery/geisteslehre-symbole Salome. | ||
Behzad Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 04-2008 |
Hier, Kamerad Phenix, viel Dank. es ist ein sehr nützliches mater zu mir Salome Friends | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1209 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Behzad.... You may want to try this link. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/meier/gaiaguys/meier.symbole.htm Edward. | ||
Behzad Member Post Number: 59 Registered: 04-2008 |
Herr Edward, Thank you so much, Its Great, Ya exactly that's what I wanted and I couldn't find it. Respect and thanks again Salome Friends | ||
Shemyaza New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2007 |
Greetings friends, I've been making some investigations while using the numerical values for the alphabet according to the Spiritual Teachings, and here is some of the things I found until now. First of all, as most of you know, this is the correspondence table between numbers and letters: 1= C,H,I,J,T,Y 2= A,R 3= S 4= M 5= D,E,L,N,Z 6= P,U,V,W,X 7= O 8= F,Q 9= B,G,K And now, here's what I found using this table: 18 (6+6+6) = Jesus, Jschwjsch, Christus, Gott, Papst, Satanas, Israel, Rasjel, Zion, Mord, Tode, Ehren, etc; 32 = Jmmanuel, Mohammed, Plejades, Quetzal; [ NOTE: In finding the values of "Jesus" and "Jmmanuel", I found that the combination "JESUS EMANUEL" has the same value as "JSCHWJSCH JMMANUEL", which is 50. If "Jschwjsch" has the same value as "Jesus", could it be that Jesus was derived from the title JHWH or Jschwjsch meaning "King of Wisdom", and later misunderstood as his proper name? If this is true, then "Jesus" is just a title next to J.'s proper name, which was Emanuel or Jmmanuel. Thus, "Jesus" Emanuel, or "Jschwjsch" Jmmanuel -> first the title, then the name. ] 20 = Asket, B.E.A.M., Henoch, Isa Rashid, Jeremja, Semjasa; 21 (7+7+7) = Billy, Bjllj; 23 = Bafath, Jehovah, Malon, XESus; 24 = FIGU, Petale; 25 = Amerika, Arussem, Malona; 26 = Salome, Friede [Peace!: same word in different languages!] 27 = Henoch, Phaeton; 29 = Arahat Athersata, Plejares; 29 = Aruseak, Ashtar Sheran, Juda Ihariot; [ Note that "Aruseak" is the real name of "Ashtar Sheran", according to Billy's contacts. And Juda Ihariot was the name of the betrayer of Jmmanuel ] 30 = Maldek, Silver Star; 31 = Muhammed, Plejaren; 34 = Februar, Plejaden; [ Februar, or February in english, is the month when Billy Meier --and also Jmmanuel, Jesaja, Henoch, etc-- was born ] 38 = Billy Meier, Edelweiss; 41 = Gilgamesha, JHWH Jmmanuel; 42 = Eduard Meier, Beobachter; 50 = Geschöpfen, Jesus Emanuel, Jschwjsch Jmmanuel; 55 = Nokodemjon, Talmud Jmmanuel; 78 = George Green "Aton" = Gizeh-Intelligenzen [ Personally I believe that George Green, one of the persons responsable for creating and spreading the filthy "And They Called His Name Immanuel" which is a falsification of the true Talmud Jmmanuel, is the person behind the entity "Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn", the so-called «creator god» in his sick pseudo-UFO cult. If you add "Aton" to G.G.'s name, the two names become very much alike. This is obviously a case of self-deification and egolatry. ] And that's it! Feel free if you want to add something to the list  Salome! Shemyaza | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 106 Registered: 05-2008 |
Shemyaza: Is George Green the one behind the FourWinds10.com website? http://www.fourwinds10.com/ Because whomever is responsible for that website uses terms like Esu Emmanuel and God Aton. |
