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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 08:38 pm: | 
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Jamesm,
No. It is not too difficult.
I have just been very sick the past couple weeks, so I have not applied myself to fully copying my translation over to your site. I'll do so soon, though, as I am beginning to get better.
(move to translation section if you wish, moderators)
Salome,
- Matthew |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 195
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 06:16 am: |
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Michael.
Maybe not the place for it, however.
"If we think of ourselves as a small community of free and common interests, we would progress by an effective division of labor whereby persons who can contribute specific, valuable services prioritize making such contributions for the good of the whole. Again, this requires self-discipline and something on the order of leaving lesser things behind, or playing with them "after work" in places where those games are played and enjoyed by others....which doesn't appear to be here."
After recently reading about possible future efforts at establishing FIGU centres in Japan, Australia, Canada, USA an idea came to mind that we could make a small but perhaps eventually tangible contribution towards this by finding a trustworthy solicitor in each country who could act as a trustee and contact point for anyone in those countries who is a forum member or whatever that might wish to leave their estate to FIGU through their will.
It doesn't take too many persons who might own a house for an accumulation of proceeds to accumulate perhaps sufficiently enough to purchase a property or alternately contribute towards FIGU Switzerland for the purpose of assisting publishing & translation work.
Possibly there are or in future might be some mission aware & friendly persons nearing old age who have no family or suitable beneficiaries so a gift of their estate towards FIGU could indeed be an attractive (to them) option.
It's not like the Aum, Jim Jones, Moonies ETC sort of concept where followers donate all to the revered supreme leader for a gauranteed outcome before the lord after passing over ..... you get the picture.
Just an option which might solve the ever present tight financial situation whilst providing comfort to some by offering a more worthwhile recipient of their estate than the government or some questionable charity.
Cheers.
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Elreyjr
Member
Post Number: 40
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 06:45 pm: |
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greetings Matthew,
thank you for your reply.
for all its worth, as per your advise, it may be best for me to concentrate/prioritize reading and re-reading the spiritual teachings offered by the Meier materials instead of spending my precious available time on other materials ie: conspiracy theories/principles from others, etc. etc.
you see, our country have been mislead for so long that all the while we do not know anything. gossip columns are abounding and it would surely take away a lot of my attention. so, in keeping with your advise, the Meier materials will keep me preoccupied for a long, long time, and not any others.
Jun |
Michael
Member
Post Number: 825
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 10:47 pm: |
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It seems like when people begin awaken to social responsibility when still relatively young and inexperienced, there's a tendency to be quite harsh and critical not only of the "evil world" before their eyes but of those whom they perceive to be either overtly or tacitly responsible for it, those who aren't seemingly doing things "right", i.e. the way the observer has determined they should all be done.
And it's not that many of their observations, though surely not all, don't have merit. It's just that, as probably everyone could admit, once we get off our...keyboards and walk out of the door, the mundane realities of daily life must often be dealt with in far less heroic ways than we envisioned, and which seem to consume our time without actually contributing to the great revolution that we foresee and formulate in our heads.
Not only is it about the shortcomings and negativity of every aspect of the government, social structure and institutions, it's also that all parenting is done wrong, all public figures are worthless, and...you name it. Then, on top of many generalizations, misperceptions and oversimplifications about the obvious realities of life, the overwhelmed consciousness turns its attention to the various conspiracies that simply must be the absolutely causative and controlling factors manipulating the masses into the apparent mess.
The more innately intelligent and sensitive the inexperienced person is, the greater tendency to go overboard in their theoretical meanderings, as well as being exhaustingly hyper-vigilant at all times.
By inexperienced I certainly don't mean that their thinking isn't "intelligent", perceptive, etc., just that the actual, reality based means of effecting real change, through understanding, experimentation in communication and action, and not just protest and authoritarian condemnation for those who don't seem to "get it", is missing, often simply because the actual time spent in working through the challenges of daily life is not only still less but those demands allow less time for dealing with the larger issues.
It is through no fault of their own, of our own, that our ability to create a lasting effect on things is often (but not always) proportionate to the months and years of time directed towards our goals, once they and our means to those ends are clarified; making the necessary course corrections in themselves requires more time, as we inevitably find out that things that we were so sure of, or the methods by which to accomplish them, were in need of revision.
So, while we here are mostly aligned with certain principles, teaching, understanding, etc., we all have had different experiences and developed different understandings too, over time. And each generation must face certain challenges regarding endurance, perseverance, etc. in pursuit of our/their goals, in trying to contribute to the global change that we/they wish to bring about. So, to the older ones regarding the younger members, we must remember our own indignation about the big unfair world, as well as our youthful enthusiasm and commitment to better it. And the younger ones must at least be informed that time will indeed tell if they will live up to their full potential, fulfillment of vision and mission.
From those with more experience, patience and understanding is required, while at the same time no projections of limitation born out of one's perceived and/or experienced difficulties, failures, etc. should be directed at the young. And for those with less experience, no contempt, dismissiveness or undeserved harshness should be impertinently directed at those who've already walked the many, many miles, for so many years, and survived well enough to arrive at their present destinations on their/our own never ending journey of living and learning.
Just some thoughts.
Michael Horn
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Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 194
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 10:57 pm: |
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Hi Jimmy ;
To quote Billy would be a little unfair because you asked what I think .
Illuminati sounds like really good fiction to me .
Are there special interest groups in the world , and new world order ? They can meet ,they can discuss world order ,but what power do they really have ? They can destroy the dollar , but it was going to happen anyway as surely as all the oil will be used up one day .
If you can take good advice , don't concern
yourself with phantoms . |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 94
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 09:59 am: |
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Michael,
It's astounding how you accuse me and Gaia of making overgeneralising inductions, and go on yourself to make a number of overgeneralising inductions, presumably from a very small sample (yourself?). I don't see, however, how inductive generalisation from thousands of years of brutal history (in relation to the Jews, Catholic Church, etc.), maniacal writings, religious hatred and wars, etc., etc., is even remotely comparable to making presumptive story-tellings about the imagined causes and effects of 'believing' in conspiracy theories.
I would have said many of the same things you say now when I was younger, ironically, but I have learned to harden up to the realities of these facts since then, and no longer do I make such foolish and sentimental arguments. My comments on the need for sterilisation of the greater portion of certain religious groups, and the nailing down of them with solid, defined names, are based upon wise cognitions I have more recently had, and not on popular morality, as your reactions most certainly were.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Michael
Member
Post Number: 826
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 12:01 pm: |
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Matthew,
Well, using Billy as a kind of example, he's someone who certainly has more experience, and knowledge, than you and I in many areas but, try as I may, I've been unable to find him ranting on about...conspiracies.
He does, however, seem stubbornly focused on some very specific teaching about how to progress in life in accordance with Creational truth.
Sometimes there's an understanding, based on many years of experience, that is expressed in deceptively simple language, which can be clearly understood by those who do have much actual life experience, in addition to whatever theoretical, and/or strictly intellectual knowledge they may or may not possess.
Michael Horn
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1808
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 01:21 pm: |
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Michael and Matthew,
While some may consider this conversation a current earth event, I think it might be looked at by others as a never ending circle of dialouge which doesn't seem to be bearing much fruit. Please lets re-focus on the topic thank you. |
Syn
Member
Post Number: 208
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 03:52 pm: |
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can anyone tell me that comet coming to earth in 2028/2033, i cant find the name of that comet.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Jonzie
Member
Post Number: 20
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 11:04 pm: |
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Hi Syn. The name of the comet is Apophis.
Rat Jones aka Jonzie
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Earthling
Member
Post Number: 264
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 02:06 am: |
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Syn - the Red Meteor
http://www.theyfly.com/Red_Meteor.html |
Edmundo
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 02:24 am: |
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Hello Syn,
did you mean Red Meteor? If so, its name is Apophis.
Here some more info:
http://us.figu.org/portal/Knowledge/TheRedMeteor/tabid/151/Default.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 112
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 02:29 am: |
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Hi Syn
I think this might be what your looking for
http://www.theyfly.com/Red_Meteor.html
Thanks
My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk
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Syn
Member
Post Number: 209
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 02:55 am: |
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yea i found it it was apophes. is that reall y the red meteor, if so does this mean its considered a meteor?
how big would it be.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Adityasonakia
Member
Post Number: 247
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:45 am: |
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Dear Friends,
I hope this is the right place where i am posting this....
Well, i dont know if you have heard about the threats to Bomb the US and UK on the 22nd of june 2009.....thats the day after.....
Well, its a nuclear bomb explosion. Attacking cities like New York, LA and some others....
Please have a look at these sites in the order i am posting them.... things may become clearer to you....
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4_ZWjJNI0A
2. http://www.jackblack12.info/Antony.html
3.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturepicturegalleries/4220575/Blackjack.html
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdAN-Pm8sRk
I hope these help you....
If everybody knew about this..... I'm sorry to push it again.
I dont know what the plejarens have to say about this though....
Salome,
Aditya. |
Syn
Member
Post Number: 210
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 08:59 am: |
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adit, im not suprised the policies and there ignorance to the rest of the world would eventually cause this, so it does not suprise me at all.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Michael
Member
Post Number: 828
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 09:26 pm: |
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Weeeeell,
Here's the latest from the guy that the Plejaren and Meier weren't too thrilled with for his contribution to demonizing "aliens" in Independence Day:
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/2012-roland-emmerich.html
...then again, some of these things are being predicted, maybe he's kind of impulsed, if not impulsive in bringing them to us with another big dose of fear.
Michael Horn
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Earthling
Member
Post Number: 265
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 03:10 am: |
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Michael, obviously Mr. Roland Emmerich is all about money, not the truth, nor solutions.... iow, reinforcing the status quo, or fear, which carves him out a lovely material existence at his fellow humans expense, and puts him in good stead with the worlds authorities.... iow, another scumbag.. imo, of course
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And what is the director going to do in preparation for that fated date? When asked he said, "I'm a pretty down to earth guy. Even [though] I made movies about aliens, I don't believe in aliens. And I don't believe that the world will come to an end in 2012, but it's a great scenario." |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 114
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 05:10 am: |
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Hi All
Some info on the Red Meteor
Billy: Regarding the Red Meteor that endangers Earth on the 13th April 2029 and of which we have already spoken on the 16th of September, I have been asked about certain things and, therefore, would like to know how big that bloke is.
To my knowledge the terrestrial astronomers have already detected it for quite some time and are calling it Apophis or something.
It shall either hit Earth in the year 2029, or only whiz past by very closely.
If the second version should occur, it (the meteor) would reappear in the year 2036, and its close approach to Earth could really lead to a catastrophe if the scientists are doing nothing against it.
Ptaah: It’s size is about 350 metres.
What you are saying regarding the great danger that the Red Meteor represents to Earth: the scientists know about it.
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Quetzal:
495. Earth humanity should listen to your words and warnings, but that especially they do not do.
496. You stand in a lost position, like one calling in the wilderness, and only few are and will be willing to listen to your words, to grasp their meaning, to reflect about them and to learn how to act correctly.
497. Those who will not listen will find death in exchange, when the meteor begins its work of death and creates a new continent, due to an enormous crack of the Earth, from the North Sea to the Black Sea, from which will spew forth red hot lava, if the prophecy should be fulfilled in its entire proportions which, however, has not been determined in its final consequence. . .
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Quetzal:
502. In reference to the event to be expected, and already told you, that this one will part the land portion between the North Sea and the Black Sea.
503. Red hot lava masses and Earth gas etc. will, in addition, create from it a deadly sulphurous wall which, drifting westward, will cover the land and with that creates an additional death-zone, if the prophecy should actually be fulfilled in its entirely, and if Earth humanity does not undertake something in unison to stop it.
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Some information from Earth Human sources :-
http://www.space.com/news/051103_asteroid_apophis.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/dec/07/spaceexploration.research
http://www.planetary.org/programs/projects/apophis_competition/
Thanks
My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk
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Michael
Member
Post Number: 830
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 02:47 pm: |
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NOTE: Please post if there aren't too many links!
Regarding Iran, US/CIA involvement, etc.
http://vdare.com/roberts/090621_iran.htm
http://vdare.com/roberts/090618_waning_power.htm
See also:
http://www.theyfly.com/news2005/dec05/dec05.htm#russia (Russia-Iran)
http://www.theyfly.com/prophecies/prophecies.htm
"The USA will set out against the Eastern countries ahead of all other financial states and simultaneously she will have to defend herself against the Eastern intruders. In all, America will play the most decisive role, when in the guise to strive for peace and to fight against terrorism she invades many countries of the Earth, bombs and destroys everything and brings thousandfold deaths to the populations. The military politics of the USA will likewise know no limits, as neither will their economic and other political institutions which will be focused on building and operating a world police force, as it is the case already for a long time [sic]. But that will not be enough, and, in the guise of a so-called peaceful globalisation, American politics will aspire to gain absolute control of the world concerning supremacy in economy.
And this will point towards the possibility that a Third World War could develop from it, if human beings as a whole will not finally reflect upon reason, become reasonable and undertake the necessary steps against the insane machinations of their governments and military powers as well as their secret services, and call a halt to the power of the irresponsible who have forsaken their responsibility in all areas."
"Far in the West, it will be different; the United States of America will be a country of total destruction. The cause for this will be manifold. With her global conflicts which are continuously instigated by her and which will continue far into the future, America is creating enormous hatred against her, worldwide, in many countries. As a result, America will experience enormous catastrophes which will reach proportions barely imaginable to people of Earth. The destruction of the WTC, i.e., the World Trade Center, by terrorists will only be the beginning."
"Yet Russia will not be satisfied with this action of war, as her will for expansion will be ravenous. And consequently Russia will launch a military attack against Iran and Turkey and will conquer these two countries in bloody fighting, causing enormous destruction."
http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash4/blltn_30.htm
"...Therefore, only missing in this circular dance of Orient-oilfield-countries is Persia, respectively, Iran, for which plans for a military takeover have already existed in the USA since 2002.
And there is no doubt that that is also being worked out today because the CIA as well as the government of the USA wants control, under all circumstances, over all Arabian oil fields, no matter what the cost.
Thereby, namely China could have the oil spigot turned off if it should dare to want to raise itself as a superpower, and as a matter of fact one such crisis is coming about."
http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash8/The%20Paradox%20How.pdf
Hi Michael, yes there are 6 links in your post. A few links are fine, but please and try to keep it down to a couple-Thanks Scott
(Message edited by scott on June 22, 2009)
Michael Horn
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Rarena
Member
Post Number: 447
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 07:43 am: |
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Very informative links of which those of the extreme American west, would be most wise to heed...
It is far more complex than we know.
Thank you Michael for pointing these very pertinant facts out and making them easily available. |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 116
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 08:58 am: |
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Hi Michael
I think you may be onto something there. Iran is a target for Israel and the USA simply because of Iran's Oil. I don't think all this hype about Iran having or developing Nukes is truthful, its more propaganda for a excuse to invade and bomb Iran. Iraq ring any bells to anyone!!
On a different note.
Michael, is it possible that the third world war prophesy in respect of 4 heads of state being assasinated could involve Obama. I have been thinking about this and I cant help thinking that JFK was assasinated because he wanted to change the way politics is run in the USA and now Obama seems to be working to those ends too.
Obama has mentioned in one of his speeches, sorry can not remember which one, that he wants to remove the USA away from the dependency of Oil in 10 years. THis would not amuse the Oil tycoons, CIA, and other rich influential people in America and around the world.
It is just my thoughts and would be greatful if you could share any info or your own thoughts on this.
Thanks
My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk
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Creational
Member
Post Number: 334
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 04:54 pm: |
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Dear Michael,
As always, thank you.
Salome
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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