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Stafath
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Post Number: 48
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 05:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Everyone,

I'm not sure where to ask this but.. What do you guys do who don't play illusionary computer games and watch TV which is full of bull****? I mean what do you do expect reading this forum, reading Billy's books, meditating and walking outside?

I would gladly accept your comments because I'm currently leaving behind all the bull**** which is no use for me.
I don't believe anything.
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Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 231
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stafath,



Well, to answer your question in a nut-shell, we also live our lives like you do. Nobody here only reads the forum or only reads Billy's books. We work too. We have our own jobs and (in my case) college to do. :-)

You can do anything you like, which is right and which you enjoy. To tell you frankly, even i play PC Games sometimes.

Its alright. Everybody lived their lives and also experience and evolve at the same time.

So all the best to you :-)

Salome
Aditya
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Hector
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Post Number: 379
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stafath you've answered yourself.You have spoken about leaving all the garbage behind.I call that process "purification", but not in an esoterical or new age sense.There are many things in life which are like a heavy burden, psychological or physical burden.....if you get rid of them, then you feel better, lighter.

A piece of carbon is not equal to a piece of diamond, although its chemical composition is identical.There's a process of purification in between.

What can be done aside of alcohol, drugs, extreme sports, sex addictions and vices, deceit, violence, injustices.....? There are many things you can do to use your time, and one is to learn and evolve as much as possible, so that your friends and relatives take you as a mirror where they reflect themselves.Try to qualify A+ grade in terms of spiritual teachings.Try to qualify A+ in everything you do, but always being noble, fair and just.(=creational).
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 219
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Stafath,

Each one may only speak for themselves, of course. People on these Forums log on from virtually every place on this Earth. As for myself, I simply go about the business of living my life. I take care of my family.

PS...: If you don't BELIEVE anything, then what do you KNOW.?

Salome
Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU?
J_rod7
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Trevor
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 05-2007
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stafath,

Theres nothing wrong with playing computer games in your spare time as long as it doesn't become an obsession like some people make them. I like playing the role playing games where your character is submersed in a HUGE world and you have a mission to conquer. Great fun! :-)
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Syn
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

trevors right i play games like 4 hours a day which is pathetic i go to school and i work 7 hour shifts but at night i meditate myself to go to sleep thats the only way to add in billys teachings i found.

i dont watch news because they publish what they want to publish(prime example is ron paul).

i dont read news paper because its full of bs(always have to be a bad thing or something in the process of things and other pointless things).

i never read bills books because frankly i cant afford it which is stupid.

stafath you aint the only one here!
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority

-Gerald Massey
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Stafath
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Post Number: 50
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi people,

Aditya:
Glad to make you laught.

Hector:
Yeah, Indeed it feels much lighter and yes I do seem to have answered to my own question but still its nice to hear other people opinions here.

J_rod7:
Eh.. well there are many things I know but there are still lots of more things for me to investigate and know.

Trevor:
Yeah I understand you.. I have been playing a role-play pc game too in my spare time. Indeed it's good as long if it doesn't become a obsession.

Thank you all for comments and peace.
I don't believe anything.
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Marksmanr
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 04:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stafath, throughout my life I've spent thousands of hours playing videogames. I've had so many exciting and adventurous times playing them, but now it has died off for me and I only rarely play a game now. I think the best game I ever played is The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time for N64.

I almost never watch T.V anymore because there just currently isn't any show which I like.

The main thing I find difficult is going to school and not being able to really do what I want to do - because of course I see through all the materialisticness. And I can't have a conversation that I would really like to have with someone because of their lack of spiritual knowledge/understanding.

There are times when I am at school where I can't help but to think about the structure of it, what people are doing, their actions and thoughts, and in the lack of spiritualness at school, I seek it, but it's nowhere to be found.
Reece Stiller
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Stafath
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Post Number: 51
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Syn,

Good to hear that I'm not the only one here.


Apart from my everyday life, I've been constantly reminding myself of my spirit and have been removing some of my mistakes but one of the biggest mistake and problem I have is that I get angry easily.. way too easily sometimes but I have tried to stay calm but still the anger can get out from me sometimes while I try to calm down which seems to be no use at all. I blame the aggresion gene for that. I want to know what is the correct technique I should use to overcome my anger?
I don't believe anything.
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Syn
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

stafath

i get pissed off all the time just by myself i release my anger on nothing just by listening to some angry music like some ramstein.

i feel like breakin windows(long inside joke with my friend) but hey after bout 5 minutes or 10 i feel much better.

dont blame the anger gene it will just be an excuse to get angry later on in life, try to correct it through meditation.

when you meditate with a good session things get more clear and your a much better person for that day and most likely from that point on
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority

-Gerald Massey
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Stafath
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Syn,

Yeah, I have been thinking about that I can fix this through spiritual means but meditation is still something where I need to train my concentration before doing but I recently did practice it with trying to focus on my breathing. For some seconds I really felt that I was thoughtless but there was moments when annoying thoughts came in which I had to eliminate and then there is this darned self-talk which I also had to eliminate.. I guess practicing meditation is the best way training concentration.
I don't believe anything.
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Arturo8913
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

stafath basicly it doesnt matter what you do the point of this isnt to rule your life your life is your life you do with it what you will however the point is is that you enrich your soul with peace and keep yourself in a boundless quest for truth and generally stay a good person so that when you pass on your spirit and hopefully you can continue evolving.
You dont have to leave all the bull behind in fact thats not what you should honestly do at all thats actually really bad. if you read or have common sense you know that your spirit incarnates into an environment which you left behind so to turn off the t.v. or bull which im assuming you mean all the bad things in the world would to put it bluntly make you a coward and hypocrite. you want peace wether in you mind or enviromnet but you neglect both in the process and just turn selfishley to yourself. once again not a bad thing that you turn and concentrate on yourself/soul. but it is bad when you do it neglecting other things and selfishley.
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Scott
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Post Number: 1485
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please lets back to the topic which relates to FIGU. This section was intended for those in need of help relating to FIGU issues, like where or how to purchase FIGU related texts etc...

Scott
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Corey
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stafath it sounds like your getting ready to begin a serious investigation!

just my opinion but sometimes blocking out TV or other forms of negative media in my opinion is an act of logic and reason and not selfish. If you want to begin working on your own Evolution though work and also a private study, it may help you to focus on yourself somewhat. It doesn't mean you cannot seek out some things outside of Billy's books, and obviously everyone needs a break sometimes not to mention living thier life (work/school/family etc)...

here is something worth learning German for, one small excerpt of over 210 pages from Billy's book Die Art zu Leben out of the from what I understand 20.000 pages available or so.

page 9:
Das Geschehen der Welt hängt von den Gedanken ab.
the happenings of the world dependant from the thoughts

I) Als erstes muss der Mensch die Wahrheit suchen und finden und daraus das Wissen lernen und erweitern
as first the Human needs to search and find the Truth and learn and expand the Knowledge

II) Als zweites muss der Mensch seine Gedanken kontrollierend korrigieren und auf die Wahrheit seines erlangten Wissens ausrichten
as second the Human needs to control Thought correctly and out of the Truth to be longer in Knowledge

III) Als drittles muss der Mensch durch sein Wissen und durch seine Gedanken seine innere Harmonie ershaffen.
as third the Human needs through being Knowledge and thoughts create innner Harmony.

IV) Als viertes muss der Mensch aus seiner inneren Harmonie hervorgehend seine eigene Persönlichkeit korrigieren, ordnen, formen, und harmonisieren.as fourthly the Human needs from being inner Harmonie emerge to being ones own correct, orderly, formed, and harmonic Personality.

V) Als fünftes muss der Mensch seine direkte Umgebung, sein Familienund Verwandtschaftsleben korrigieren, ordnen, formen und harmonisieren. as fifthly the Human needs to be correct, orderly, formed, and harmonic in ones own surroundings of family (life relatives).

VI) Als sechstes muss der Mensch seine nächtes Umwelt der Freunde, Kameraden und Bekannten korrigieren, ordnen, formen und harmonisieren. as sixthly the Human needs to be a close environment of correct, orderly, formed, and harmonic friends, comrades, and acquaintances.
VII) Als siebentes ist der Mensch dann fähig, eine Gruppe Menschen, die Masse Menschheit, den Staat und die Welt zu korrigieren, zu ordnen, zu formen, zu harmonisieren und zu führen in weisheitlicher, menschgerechter und schöpfungs-naturgerecht-gestetzmässiger Form. as seventh is the Human then capable, as a group of humans, the mass of humankind, the cities and the world, to orderly, to form, to harmonize, and to have leadership of wisdom, human fairness, creations-naturalfairness-law Form.

(translation open to correction btw I beleive I understand "mässiger" but cannot explain it in English)

I agree that mastering concentration is a good way to begin practicing correct meditation as well. And sometimes as Im practicing my German (MP3 player) I do so and sit outside to enjoy nature congruently.


Corey
harmonisches Funktionieren zu lernen
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Stafath
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Corey,

Thank you seriously. I have been considering to buy one of the Billy's books which is in english but which books have been translated to english and where can I buy them?

Sorry for the reply delay but my last post didn't get posted.

Dear Stafath,
It wasn't posted because its off topic, there is a section dedicated to books and one for translations. In case you have missed it, FIGU has an online shop!
http://shop.figu.org/
Salome, Badr

I don't believe anything.
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Mehraein62
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Post Number: 166
Registered: 12-2007
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Friends,

Sorry , I can not find:
1-Tel Number of FIGU Center
2-Its Fax Number
3-I don't know whose exactly responsible for registration as Passive Membership

Thank You
Salome
M45
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 240
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome Ebrahim,

The application process for Passive Membership is done through the mail (snail-mail).

The address for the Headquarters of the Passive Group is:

Semjase-Silver-Star-Center
CH-8495 Hinterschmidruti /ZH
Switzerland

I have never been able to find a phone number, nor a FAX number, for the SSSC. Christian helped me to get a form, he has been quite busy lately, but could take a moment to get one sent to you. Or you might try Badr.

Christian's E-mail Address:
christian.frehner@figu.org

Badr's E-mail Address:
badr.meeman@forum.figu.org

Salome
Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU?
J_rod7
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Badr
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Post Number: 393
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ebrahim,

You can find the info you need in the below links

http://figu.org/ch/verein/das-figu-center/anreise

http://us.figu.org/portal/AboutFIGU/Membership/PassiveMembership/tabid/86/Default.aspx

Salome, Badr
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Mehraein62
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 12-2007
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Friends
Rod (Honest-True-Real), Badr

Thank you very much. It solved my problem
Salome
M45
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Peter_brodowski
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Post Number: 427
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

help!
i made an order online at the figu shop... apparently the name of the bank and one of the identification numbers that was provided to me (which i had to run through a translator online) dont match.
has anybody here ordered from figu via wire transfer to figu's bank account?
i emailed figu but they are slow to answer sometimes. i need the exact name of the bank. if anybody can help me out i would be grateful :-) thanks.
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Fainas
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Peter,

I successfully made wire transfer with following info:

Name and Surname/Company Name: Freie Interessengemeinschaft fur Grenz- und Geisteswissenschaften
Address of Beneficiary: CH-8495 Schmidruti SWITZERLAND
Account Number: CH0609000000800137033
Details of Payment: figu shop order
Bank Name: SWISS POST - POSTFINANCE
Bank Address: NORDRING 8, BERNE, SWITZERLAND
Routing Type: SWIFT
Routing Number: POFICHBEXXX
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Getknowledge
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

figu,

is the mailing address - figu society usa, p.o.b. 730, mounds, ok, 74047 - still functional? (i sent out an order that got returned to sender twice)

is there a number to call and place an order? (im from ohio)

i sent 6 consecutive emails within two weeks to us@figu.org about my concern but got no replys

thanks
Tien
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Scott
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Post Number: 1510
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tien,

I sent an e-mail to one of the FIGU US members about this, I'll let you know if I hear anything.

Scott

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