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    Markcampbell Member Post Number: 215 Registered: 10-2008 |
To Everyone who need to read this ; I think that what must be said at this point is that what we are studying becomes us slowly . Why don't we take the opportunity to use what we've learned right here , interacting with others? Take time to form your words and realize that none of us are overseers of each other's behaviour , and no one has been appointed as management over another . If you have a comment about someone's behaviour , tread lightly , because you can't control another . The moderators have the right to withold your posts , but only them . This study is , after all, about the control of emotions ,thought and actions . I'm included in this . I've learned that if I have something to say , I'll make it brief and singular . After one comment ,I'm done . Everything past this is overkill . Please remember positive neutrality is not word-service , it's a concept that is easy to follow if you think you can .Humans on earth have had the bad habit of believing down deep that they were faulty worthless beings , fated to make mistakes . Now we know we can exceed that low expectation . Thanks for reading , Mark | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 646 Registered: 07-2004 |
Mark, I think were past that,"faulty worthless beings", feeling. The trend now is 'faulty cheesy beings'. After closely examining your formula, I think you might just be using 'old math', not the shiny 'new' math. It's tough keeping up with these trends, but if you just add 'reality TV' into your equation, you'll see a more accurate result. Thanks aren't necessary, as you know we both do this for free. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Jimmy Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 05-2009 |
This forum badly needs a Private Message function so people can settle their differences of opinions and disputes off the forum. This particular forum of all forums could really use it. A PM function brings lots of other benefits to the forum apart from just that too. There are tuns of software applications for website forums, maybe theres a new one out for PM function that is able to be used with this forums software? | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 106 Registered: 04-2006 |
Well perhaps we should discuss this excerpt from the Goblet of Truth on this forum openly. "75) People of your kind (human beings), go away from those who believe themselves to be your enemies, but re- member to do good to them and not to hate them, but to be connected to them in love, even if you have to speak openly of their shameful deeds; never deem another to be your enemy on your own account, because you shall be connected to people of your kind (human beings) in love and be helpful to them in all good things. " It's easy and natural in the daily grind of turning ourselves from rough seeds to fine flour to try to ensure that our fellow man is also feeling and sharing in our friction. Peace and focus to your spirits and consciousness. Matthew Beattie | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 461 Registered: 10-2005 |
Sure... Be what you want others to be to you. What you focus on grows. It's neutral-positive behavior. If you think a person is an enemy, then he is... but it is only in your mind, not his, unless of course your behavior indicates this. I found the excerpt about Merlin pouring the words into the Cauldron of Life to be quite interesting...eh eh... So it appears to be an indication Billy may have been Merlin? | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 229 Registered: 06-2008 |
Markcampbell. "Please remember positive neutrality is not word-service , it's a concept that is easy to follow if you think you can .Humans on earth have had the bad habit of believing down deep that they were faulty worthless beings , fated to make mistakes . Now we know we can exceed that low expectation." With the concept of original sin as purported in the big book of lies such lines of thinking becoming entrenched in many persons lives as a result of family, religious & societal conditioning come as no surprise. So given that I'm somewhat at a loss to fully grasp the Goblet Of Truth concept as stated above in Redbeards's post. ""75) People of your kind (human beings), go away from those who believe themselves to be your enemies, but re- member to do good to them and not to hate them, but to be connected to them in love, even if you have to speak openly of their shameful deeds; never deem another to be your enemy on your own account, because you shall be connected to people of your kind (human beings) in love and be helpful to them in all good things. " In the past Copernicus, Galileo, Giodorno Bruno and many others did speak openly about certain peoples shamefull deeds and some found their criticizm led to fatal consequences. Also remember that the Bafath ended their days rather quietly and Ashtar Sheran's group concluded their stay in the universe suddenly and not through natural causes. So in the appropriate circumstances it appears the love your enemy theory can be replaced with somewhat different measures as shown by example. These sort of generalized statements are as barmy as the christian turn the other cheek and love thine enemy fantasies ..... and they are fantasies when considering the trail of blood and mayhem perpetrated by various religions. No way you are likely to get me loving someone who walks onto a bus and detonates a backpack which wipes out my wife & kids on their way to school or similar scenario. Where is the logical sense in such statements ? Cheers. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 647 Registered: 07-2004 |
Ramirez, Meditate on what you think love is. You will have a very difficult time understanding most of what you will be exposed to while reading Billy's writings with just this one word "love" being confused in your thinking. We as a human race here on Earth have lost the real true knowledge that this one little tiny simple four lettered word means. We love cars, movie stars and hipster bars. "Loving your enemy" is heavily misinterpreted by nearly all of us Earther's. Being good to them, and not hating them, has many aspects, one being your consciousness of being a neutral-positive person, another is realizing that this "enemy" of yours is also here learning about its self. When you begin feeling and understanding the different perspectives that constitute a human being, you will have greater opportunities in grasping more of these teachings Billy has dedicated himself to returning to us earthworms. Where is the logical sense in such statements you ask? I apply this question to what Billy writes in this concept and ignore your loaded scenario that helps in causing you your confused understanding. And, also, it would help my reply if you applied logic and reasoning to what you are "barmy-ized" by. You have truly trivialized this concept to such a shallow unconscious place, it behooves you to work on this very teaching as your actual starting point in honestly contemplating such worthwhile things, with your utmost desire to become greater in true knowledge and wisdom, and honoring your spirit and Creation. Otherwise your just entertaining yourself here, and that's ok too. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Jimmy Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 05-2009 |
love the spirit, not the person (personality) | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 981 Registered: 10-2007 |
***** I especially like how Billy expresses this thought in Desiderata Always respect your fellowmen as fellow human beings, although they may have dispositions that differ from yours; indeed, even the worst among them is a creation of Creation, hence, everyone is just like you - a human being. State your truths freely, clearly, calmly and candidly, for only in this manner is an authentic picture created which defines the true nature of everything. Allow other people to freely express their opinions, for they are allotted the same rights as you. Listen to others, to the bright and intellectual individuals, and also to the obtuse, the foolish and those who lack learning, for they, too, have opinions and statements to offer. But distance yourself from aggressive, boisterous and obstinate individuals so as not to become embroiled in their pointless disputes, for such people insult one's consciousness, humaneness and refinement; and yet, at the same time, forget not that they too are beings of Creation, whom you, as a fellow human being, must show appropriate respect, even though you may find their thoughts, feelings, deeds and actions unacceptable. Peace ***** You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped) Rod | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 462 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Jimmy, Since we don't know the spirit consciously. It would be unconscious love. The spirit and physical entity contain a personality and they are both inextricably connected. So... more correctly, it is my understanding... love the whole person. Almost all people of Earth are unconscious regarding the spirit hence we most likely do not know HOW to love correctly at this stage of our collective evolution. Fortunately we have a wonderful teacher... | ||
Enlightenedatlast Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 06-2009 |
Greetings: I am not sure if this constitutes the teachings and loving your neighbor, but here goes: My neighbor, a 40+ year old man has an addiction to Heroine, he is also mentally unstable due to his drug use and several accidents he sustained in his adult life. He and I were enemies at one point because he had shot off a bee-bee gun into my backyard where my 3 kids play, so I called the cops because I was looking out for my children. My fellow neighbor was very angry with me for calling the cops to just talk to him about shooting his bee-bee gun into my backyard, that he had threatened to kill me and my family as well as "destroy my minivan". I let the situation settle and a week. His dog got loose from his backyard and took off. I was concerned about him and his pup pal, so the next morning, my neighbor was sitting out front of his house, I went over to him and nicely asked him if he found his dog and told him I was concerned. He started crying and told me thank you and that he did in fact find his dog. I told him it would be okay, everything was going to be fine and he settled down. Three days later he came over to me as I was getting my youngest daughter in the van to go pick up my oldest son from his group program (social skills program) and he hugged me and said, "I have a heroine problem you know", I stated, "I Know, in time you will get over it and get better"! He stopped hugging me, backed up just a bit and smiled and said, "Thank You for believing in me". I felt good that both of us got past the "issue" that we had and he did appologize for that as well. To love your neighbor... I think this might be a good example. In Peace and Love, Amanda | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 220 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi Amanda ; Thanks for that true story . People only want to be acknowledged and recognized . The human element always recognizes others regardless of what they have done . I joked with friends before about ; if GW Bush had only invited Saddam Hussein over to the ranch to ride horses and shoot off some guns , the whole Iraq war might have never happened . All Saddam wanted was to be a cowboy, probably . Mark | ||
Jimmy Member Post Number: 63 Registered: 05-2009 |
Hi Rarena, I didn't know if that was right. It was only a suggestion. Yes we are fortunate to have a wonderful teacher. | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 01-2009 |
greetings, sorry for still posting here even though other topic areas on crop circles are already blocked. also, the date of publication of the foregoing material can not readily be vefifiable. from:http://www.spiritualgenome.com/crop_circles_explained.htm "The genetic procedures being adopted by these scientists have been commented on and explained by Grazyna Fosar and Franz Bludorf in their book Vernetzte Intelligenz (1), who have put forward the theory that self-radiating balls of light often seen in the sky and mistaken for extra-terrestrial visitors are in fact a group consciousness phenomenon brought about by hypercommunication within the DNA. This theory by Fosar and Bludorf can also explain the formation of crop circles which are also commonly attributed to extra-terrestrial visitors. In addition it will be shown that the precise technology being adopted by the aforesaid scientists in Moscow represents a new energy source, previously unknown to mankind, that is capable also of creating crop circles" Billy said so before that the formation of crop circles as being man-made. could this theory be a corroboration? Jun | ||
Behzad Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 04-2008 |
Hello Mods, will you consider please to open a section for talks related to Goblet of Truth ? I think it would be useful and necessary also. regard http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/2200/9413.html?1249298118 (Message edited by scott on August 08, 2009) Salome Friends | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hello, Can anyone confirm if the truth-binger Babatschi that Billy mentioned in OM is really this person? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavatar_Babaji | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 376 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi Smukhuti in the first paragraph of the wikipedia article it says: "Mahavatar Babaji is the name given to an Indian saint by Lahiri Mahasaya", so Babaji is not the real name of this alleged saint we can also read: "..."Babaji" simply means "revered father" and also "...Many sadhus in India are called Babaji" so there may be dozens of false teachers from the present and the past that called themselves Babaji... It would be better to ask Billy to know who this Babatschi really was take care | ||
Edmundo Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 12-2008 |
Smukhuti, please read this explanation regarding Babaji/Babatschi: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/6890.html#POST26211 | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 134 Registered: 01-2009 |
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Gib_niner Member Post Number: 51 Registered: 06-2006 |
could be that its still a bit contentious - but maybe in time there will be more of this - perhas something to look out for anyway exactly as what Billy was told (of course).... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1209118/Is-Nessie-Google-Earth.ht ml there is a bit more detail in the Irish version of the story - goes like this... "Gliding through the murky waters of Loch Ness, the blurry form trails in its wake four fin-like outlines and a long sinewy tail. The oval body seems to conform to the typical description of a Plesiosaur - an aquatic reptile from the Jurassic period widely believed to be extinct" also the co-ordinates are given at this link... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2606683/Loch-Ness-Monster-on-Google-Earth.html | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 705 Registered: 03-2004 |
That link does not show Nessie but rather a boat and its wakes.=A0 Nessie= =0Awould also be darker than the very light color or white shown... patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Gib_niner Member Post Number: 53 Registered: 06-2006 |
yeah - could be a boat i suppose - but then wouldn't there be a rather much more spread out and even trail of waves being left in its aftermath - like the following http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/n/ng/ngould/548716_boat_wake_1.jpg also here is a closer look at the object in question..looks like some bits are actually maybe underneath the water.. http://img24.imageshack.us/i/nessie01.png/ hmmm who knows though - maybe its not Nessie after all - drats.  |
