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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 129
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All

I have searched through the Question and Answers to Billy thread on Iran.

I posted a comment on this thread a few weeks ago to Michael Horn and I quote myself

"I think you may be onto something there. Iran is a target for Israel and the USA simply because of Iran's Oil. I don't think all this hype about Iran having or developing Nukes is truthful, its more propaganda for a excuse to invade and bomb Iran. Iraq ring any bells to anyone!! "



I stand corrected by Billy and I quote

"Hello
Can it be said of the Iran,if they are working towards peace, as they have said ,or are they heading towards war/prophecys that stem from there religion and delusional thinking? Sadly even our news here in the U.S sets the stage in the Middle East for the biblical armagadon nonsense.

Thank You

Answer

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who was a leading terrorist during the hostage crisis during the eighties, certainly is no peace seeker, and he and other persons in the top circles of Iran want to use nuclear power for warlike reasons."


As I try not to get all CONspiracy in my life I just wanted to clear up any thoughts of any one who may have read my comment and took it as truth. It was not truth and Iran as Billy mentions wants to use nuclear power for war like reasons.

Thanks
My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk
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Darren
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Rod.
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Creational
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Post Number: 336
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Darren,

I am going to respond to your post # 7, in the appropriate thread.

Salome,
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Karrol
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all,

In researching the political climate in regards to Iran and the recent coup in Honduras I came across a website globalresearch.ca. I found an article entitled: "Obama's Rollback Strategy: Honduras, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the Boomerang Effect by Prof James Petras. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14291

Salome,

Karrol Steeves
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Karrol
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And then I found this:

Bio-electromagnetic Weapons: The ultimate weapon

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5797
Salome,

Karrol Steeves
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Thomas
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Post Number: 673
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 04:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will not post a link but wanted to give everyone a heads up that recent tremor activity near and on the San Andreas Fault has lead scientists to speculate that a large quake of serious magnitude is on the way in the near future. The articles I have seen have been all around the web but you can find them on ScienceDaily and on PhysOrg.

Maybe the "Big One" is on the way near the turn of the century as BEAM mentioned and maybe it will be this turn of the century and not the next one as some have guessed...
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Edward
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Post Number: 1445
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stephen....


Am also familiar with your posting.

Well, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad....being quite a 'direct' individual would also be
placed in such scenario, as he is now. And as Billy also mentioned, the
intermingling of the US and Allies (including Israel!!) within the country of
Iran, not being very favorable...and for the world! Thus, countries as the US
and her Allies/Israel....are just - Creating - opposite leaderships like
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and as result...they take a Harder stance towards the
West and Israel. Just plain old: Cause and Effect!!

Even Iran, has the right to Defend herself. It be Conventional or with Nukes;
it is all up to the US and Israel and their Allies.

Not taking sides on any of the mentioned, both/all sides are just out to
conquer the world, so to speak...for their Greediness and Cult Religion
Megalomaniac Consciences Madness....but all this mentioned scenario does NOT
lay in one Mahmoud Ahmadinejad...hands, per se, alone.

And when it gets to the point: do they all not want to utilize Nuclear
weapons!?? Of course they do!! It be US against China, or Russia, and Israel
against Iran, Iraq, etc...they are all full of Insanity and Madness...when it
gets down to the point, of confrontation. And as long as the US and Israel
Expand their Powers...they WILL be confronted with the Consequences they...
THEMSELVES....generated!! As Billy and the Plejarans have made clear over-
and-over....many times.

Thus: we have to SEE the Logic in the above mentioned scenario. And Iran(just
like any other country) has every right...to Defend herself; in what way,
ever.

So, the West are Creating....their OWN DEMONS!!! As usual, if you do not dance
to their tune.

In this case: It takes TWO....to tango.....

Thus, a Neutral-Positive stance should be taken, here...I would say.


Edward.
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Mavi
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh,oh! maybe that's why many jews are buying a lot of acres in Chile, bush got a lot acres in Paraguay, another elite members in Argentine, Australia etc etc, to build bunkers.
George Green former elite member said that they want to use neutron bombs on the northern hemisphere's countries- besides war,also they want to play god eliminating a huge amount of people-the reason of going South is that the south pole's winds, will sweep up north again the
danger effects of these bombs .
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Kingman
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Post Number: 643
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's an experiment that is very odd. The reasoning behind this staged event must be based on stupidity, or agenda. This makes no sense.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5842324/Children-traumatised-by-War-of-Worlds-abduction-of-teacher.html
a friend in america
Shawn
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Mavi
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

KINGMAN-That's indeed weird, maybe they are rehearsing something like they did with Orson Wells, to make ETs look as evil.In listening to George Green (Camelot) he said that many countries have UFO like planes, and he thoght they might use those plus hologram images to frighten the heck out of people all over the planet and then come with the solution:NWO and microchippingYou see-Problem-reaction- solution as Icke says.
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Mavi
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HELLO, AGAIN!
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT'S THE MEANING OF THE CROP CIRCLES?
THANKS
MAVI
PEACE
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Cpl
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Post Number: 448
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mavi,

Billy has said most of these are just made by people here on earth.

There is one very slick group in England who have made many of these, actually made to order. They have an office with computers and work out all designs and how they will be constructed geometrically on computers before going to a suitable site at night.

Remember the infamous "Rose" crop circle that many thought implicated or suggested the British royal family? That was actually ordered by a sushi shop owner here in Japan (sorry don't recall his name but saw him on TV here). It was his family's seal and was faithfully reproduced just as he ordered. The picture probably looks really good in his shop.

One of the main characters of this crop circle building team is called Matthew. They were all actually interviewed on Japanese TV (I recorded the program years ago) and they said they hoped the circles they were making might attract some alien intelligences, but it also is a form of business.

Doubtless there are others, but remember that anything geometric or mathematical is easy to reproduce even in the dark with just string and boards. That also goes for the alien picture crop circle that was just a series of lines (like on a TV screen). These would be easy to reproduce as they are just a series of lines in order. Once charted they could just be laid out.

Interesting art form though.

Chris
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://theyfly.com/articles/WILL_HUMANITY_WAKE_%20UP%20.htm
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 225
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Latest multinational pharma cartel scam .... innoculate everyone in Britain against one flu over the piggy's trough.

Now if these mega quack corporations could develop a vaccine against greed and stupidity then administer trial doses to various heads of state, religions, financial institutions, think tanks and other sundry institutional parasites & bootlicking flunkies we might start getting somewhere :-)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5806751/Swine-flu-vaccine-to-be-given-to-entire-population.html

Population of 60 million at how much a dose ?
Health concern or new ways of Big Pharma making profits based on media hyped scare scenarios.

What's next .... a keep all citizens safe from invading ET's collar ....
Cheers.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1450
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael....

Always interesting information!!

Especially now....with the Apollo 11 anniversary!

The MASS STILL recognizing the landing as being based on truth! When there is
an Ocean of Proof out there...of the landing being a Hoax! It be Meier related
Materials of non Meier Materials. [Distrusting to see many NEWS broadcasting
stations Contributing to this/such LIE, also, alas...]

I guess, as the saying goes: "They whom do not seek....will always be blind!"


Edward.
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Marksmanr
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 06:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shawn, that staged abduction at the school is ridiculous. It definitely wouldn't have positively influenced the children's psyches. Either staged alien invasion agenda or stupidity.

Mavi, I found information on crop circles here:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/meier/gaiaguys/ptaacropcs.htm

True Edward, listening about the Apollo 11 anniversary on the radio in the car today was a bit annoying (undeniably).

Michael,
"I also learned that the Plejaren had discovered and gained entry into another universe (not the Dal) and had also discovered a race of human beings there whose lineage was related to the prophet Henok (Henoch) of long, long ago. Of course, it will be a very, very long time before this kind of information will ever be shown to be accurate or not."

That is extremely interesting. Do you know anything else about that? Reading that excited me and I thought "come on Earth, lets join the Plejaren Federation!".
Reece Stiller
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Earthling
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Post Number: 272
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In honor of the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11 Hoax Day:

Please note moon frog at 0:59,1:46 & 2:25 secs.

http://www.spacevidcast.com/2009/07/20/restored-apollo-11-footage-scene-7-of-15/
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Darren
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,

Discovery cable channels would have to be the worst I think. They have been showing nothing but Apollo moon mission related documentaries all day, everyday, for the past week.
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Mavi
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IT'S NOT THE FLU ...



... IT'S THE VACCINE




Jane Burgermeister has filed bioterrorism charges with the FBI against Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, based in Austria; Baxter AG, also in Austria; and its parent company Baxter International in Deerfield, Illinois. Guess which company is providing much of the swine flu vaccine for mass inoculation - Baxter International. This is the same Baxter International that sent bird flu virus to European laboratories 'by mistake' earlier this year and it was mixed with a seasonal flu virus to create a much more dangerous strain.

Last year at least 81 people were killed by Baxter International's contaminated blood-thinning product, heparin, which was made in China from, among other things, pig intestines. Isn't pharmaceutical medicine wonderful? The contaminated heparin also seriously injured hundreds of others and it was revealed that the factory of Baxter's Chinese supplier had never been inspected by either American or Chinese public 'protection' agencies.

More than 50 dialysis patients died in 2001 because of faults with Baxter International equipment, and this month Baxter Healthcare Corporation, a subsidiary of Baxter International, reached an out-of-court settlement of two million dollars with the State of Kentucky. Baxter had been caught inflating the cost of intravenous drugs sold to Kentucky Medicaid by as much as 1,300 per cent.

This is clearly a company you can trust and it is now is a major source of the swine flu vaccine that governments across the world want to impose upon entire populations with the most minimal safety checks. The vaccine is being fast-tracked through the regulatory system with safety trials lasting less than a week. The London Times reported:

'Regulators at the European Medicines Agency said the fast-tracked procedure has involved clinical trials of a "mock-up" vaccine similar to the one that will be used for the biggest mass vaccination programme in generations. It will be introduced into the general population while regulators continue to carry out simultaneous clinical trials.'

My emphasis.


The scale and speed of the planned vaccination programme is insane given that the overwhelming majority of those who have contracted the virus have had very mild symptoms. Dr Peter Holden of the Rothschild-controlled British Medical Association said that although swine flu was not causing serious illness they were eager to start a mass vaccination campaign, beginning with 'priority groups'. Ugh?? This is not about public health and never was.
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Mavi
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HELLO, MY FRIENDS!
THANK YOU,
Marksmanr and CPL, I thought it was the other way around
peace-empathy-love
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Kingman
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Post Number: 645
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris,

I respectfully disagree with your summation of the origin of crop circles. There's plenty of designs that I would agree spring from the hands of man, but it only takes one made from something other than man to disprove they are all made from people from Earth.

If your so positive that they are all made the way you say, how do you explain the ones created during rainstorms that have zero footprints in the formations. Some of these designs are so huge, the time required to create the image, without being seen, would extend over a whole day. But, they appear in a short time period and any evidence that people were responsible is seriously lacking.

This is a subject that we as Earth Human's must consider and reason with our own logic. Billy can't just feed us all the answers to everything we ask. We benefit from his knowledge of our past history, information that is extremely difficult to come by. The crop circles are here now. If we allow ourselves to swallow all that is given and not discover for ourselves the real truth, nothing will be learned.

My own research describes both human hands, as well as an unknown force or forces behind the creations. The method of using boards and strings to create these designs doesn't hold water for all the images that have appeared.


So when you say this,

"Billy has said most of these are just made by people here on earth."

Are you meaning that some aren't made from man?

The forgeries that can be seen as made from people, disregard those. The others that are unexplainable, these are worthy of studying. Delineating what is a real crop circle made from something other than Earth Humans is the same as separating the 'wheat from the chaff'.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Mavi
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this is a new video, very interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRuqA0ffyCI&feature=channel
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Marksmanr
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I haven't read the source material myself, but here's some of what gaiaguys said about crop circles:

Ptaah has since explained to Billy, in 1996, that while there are very many crop circle falsifiers/hoaxers at work around the world, some of which they have observed at work, it has been clear to the Plejarans for a considerable time (since 1985) that the work of extraterrestrials is involved too. He explained that both hoaxed and genuine crop circles appear all over the world, also noting that not everything that appears genuine is genuine.

When during this exchange Billy asked about the increase in sightings of UFOs around the world Ptaah explained that these come from several places of origin and that there are extraterrestrials concerning themselves with the Earth that are not part of the Federation (to which the Plejarans belong.) However this does not mean that they do not share interests in common with the Plejarans. But according to Ptaah in this conversation, the Plejarans maintain no contact with them, nor have they ever done so. It had not been part of the Plejarans' mission to previously investigate the activities of these other people. But at some point circumstances changed and in 1998 Billy was permitted to publish the news of the existence of genuine extraterrestrial-produced crop circles, because events had come closer, which would cause the expected union between extraterrestrials and earth humans.

Ptaah clarified that the crop circles concern coming events in the solar system - the announcement of the appearance of extraterrestrials (Erdfremden). He explained that the extraterrestrials have been conveying messages/information to prepare us slowly this way for their anticipated official contact so that it does not cause panic. The crop forms are encoded and must first be deciphered, and at first only understood by certain groups. A direct and open contact could cause chaos. He explained that even the secrecy surrounding the forms has been used to generate more interest, and those people actively involved with the circles, and even the hoaxers have been part of the awakening process. Ptaah tells us that there are even some crop circle cases that have involved hoaxers who have been unknowingly influenced by extraterrestrials.


The above is from the link in my previous post.

Salome.

Reece Stiller

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