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Scott
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Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe it has to do with the sign of Aquarius?
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Savio
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Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 04:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Someone mentioned once that 3 Feb is the day while the Earth is positioned at a point that is farest away from the Sun.

Hence, starting from that day on, the earth will get more and more close to the Sun, that signifies a New Beginning.

Savio
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Edward
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Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All....

As is mentioned: that ALL TRUE Prophets will be born under the sign of
Aquarius. And due to the positioning of the planets! The Aquarius Age. [The
Hippies had the correct idea of the concept, but it started way before they
mentioned/calculated it to manifest, itself; Contact Notes mentioned similar.]

And to some of us here, Aquarius...signifies: the washing away of the Old and
welcoming the New. Indeed: a New Beginning!


Edward.
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Rarena
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't it funny how correct data fits the curve?

Apart from the above excellent, well thought out responses... it was allegedly the same spirit-form of whom Billy Meier is integral spiritual lineage... and it may have to do with his resonance, or spiritual frequency... influencing the point of influent into our space-time sphere...

Salome
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Redbeard
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Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 05:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Edward, In reading your post you mentioned the aquarian birth sign and I realized that my family has an abundant amount of Aquarians. My sister, brother, father, uncle, and an aunt, and the last three mentioned were siblings.

All of them very influential, driven, charismatic and born to lead. You know where they stand as they will tell you and show you, even if you may not want to know.

Interesting insights,
Matt
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Edward
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 05:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt....


Yes, they are very Perceptive individuals. Have noticed like-wise. In all
fronts they do make very Positive use of their given talents.


Edward.
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Marcela
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Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello to all of you,

Maybe this question has been answered before and I wanted to know if any of you know what is going to happen with Billy Meier’s spirit form when he departs from this material life.

I mean, if he is the last prophet, is he going to reincarnate on this planet, is he going back to the level of the Arahat Athersata or will the Plejaren intervene in taking Billy with them? Questions about Billy’s reincarnations are no longer accepted, so I wanted to ask you.
Salome
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Schantz
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Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marcela,

From what I understand Billy's spirit form will incarnate here on Earth again in the year 2075.
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Earthling
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Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marcela: I think I read that Billy will be back in future incarnations on planet earth. That he will be involved in the mission but not as a prophet.

However, others may correct me.
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Marcela
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Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Schantz & Earthling:

Seriously? That is really good news; could you give me the source of the info by any chance?

I was thinking about the completion of his mission, and what role would he play in his future reincarnations, if he stays in this planet. Thanks again.
Salome
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Schantz
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marcela,

Source: The search button at the top of this page.
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Scott
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marcela,

This is the last time Billy's spirit form will perform the role as a prophet. There will be other incarnations, but not in this role. His spirit form will leave this planet in 3999 as I understand it.

Scott
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Rarena
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 06:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marcela,

Have not written to you before, hello.

Billy will be back again according to contact 115 in the year 2075 as a new personality. Each life we become a fraction of a percent more "evolved" and each personality created to evolve us as each of our individual needs require in each successive lifetime, with either some or no memory of past incarnations.

It is my understanding Eduard Meier will not have prophetic capabilities next life and it was over 600 years (?) as his last incarnation as a prophet (Mohammed). He is the seventh prophet to teach the Earth people who are now apparently ready to understand, if not, in the near future.

It appears the structure of the Universe is in sevens with the seventh being the pinnacle.

Our friend Eduard (the keeper of the treasure) loves the Earth and he is here till 3999.

Communicating as we are here, in this electron sea we have the capability to learn awesome truths without the need for sermons on the mount taken five hundred ways since Sunday in the minds of uneducated, urrational and unreasonable people... Now we have written record, with aware, concerned intelligent people able to read them and interpret them with rational, logic and reason.

His messages are now all written down correctly and accurately (in German) for billions of people in the future whom have learned and evolved to balance the hemispheres of their brains (via meditation) in order to be calm, collected and able to absorb this really special and amazing information.

Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!

Peace be on Earth, and among all beings!
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Hector
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The spirit form of Billy Meier will reincarnate circa year 2075, and this person will dedicate his life to the Mission, although it seems like he or she won't have any prophetical duties.

I think this person will dedicate his efforts to take root, to settle, to expand the teachings of the last, the seventh prophet and give FIGU more relevance. (This is MY own conjecture).
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Mattopenminds
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear All,
I think that it is important that people realise that the birth date 3rd Feb is best for the work of a prophet but other than that signifies nothing more, i.e, it is not a "higher" birth date than any other birth date. Dates of birth are calculated and spirits born at certain times to best service the needs of that spirit form in order to perform certain tasks decided by that spirit form before inception. Let's not get caught up with ideas about the importance of particular dates but on what spirits have decided to do in life, which is of most importance for the fulfillment of certain tasks meant to evolve the spirit of the individual and, in turn, all earth human beings.
Peace and Regards,
Matt
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Marcela
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you to all of you for your responses. I wanted to know if there were contact information, and I will read the Archives; it is one page anyways.

So, when Billy comes back I was guessing that his impulses will guide him to find the Figu again not knowing that he is the founder of the organization or will he eventually know who he was? Very interesting however, it is nice to know that this earth will benefit from his conscience working for the mission for centuries to come.

Matt: Yes, I agree with you; but there is something about the zodiac sign that influences best the personality of a prophet. My cousin for example, she is very religious, but she is aquarium. And she is very open to other line of thinking, she even thinks that death is a rebirth, etc…I don’t know if the stars really influence in how you are, but they shape some personality trends. Every sign has a particular characteristic and I bet here in this forum we’ll find all the signs, and we are here learning the truth, right?
Salome
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J_rod7
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****

Hello Marcela, Greetings in Peace to All,

Here is the time-line of Billy as Prophet...:

As Billy is the SAME spirit of NOKODEMJON, a brief history is given...:

86,000,000,000 years ago = The prophet Nokodemjon is born in the Waron star system in the Lyren galaxy. He appeared repeatedly until the last time of 12 billion years ago

12,000,000,000 years ago = Enoch's original tribes split into two lineages. One lineage, who we refer to as the Old Lyrians, went it's own way to settle throughout the galaxy and eventually settled in the Lyra and Vega star system in another space-time shifted configuration. Another lineage, who we now refer to as the Creator Overlords, also settled throughout the galaxy and eventually arrived in the Sirius star system.

7,000,000,000 years ago = The Sirius Creator Overlords lost knowledge of their true ancestry or origin. They lose the capability to defend themselves and they start to genetically engineer new warrior races. Warrior races mutiny and escape with help across the galaxy and some arrive on the planet Kudra in the Nisan star system, others on planets Mars and Malona in the Sol star system and land begin to create new colonys.

2,500,000 years ago = The Kinten (Chinese) and Niper (Japanese) races arrive on Earth from Nisan star system.
...(As copied exactly from source) [I think there may be an error here in the chronology. These races would have arrived at this time in the Star system of Lyra, then later migrated to Earth. /Rod]

1,500,000 years ago = Indigeneous Earth human develops into modern form.

500,000 years ago = Indigeneous Earth human develops first tools.

387,000 BC = The Old Lyrians arrive on Earth. The ET Asasel created Ledon, the father of the dark race (the native African race) with an Earth human female.[5]. Semjasa created Adam, the father of the white human race. [6]. Sartael created Tet-el, the father of the red (American Indian) human race. Giant humans of up to 33 feet height arise from the mixing of ET human and Earth human over several generations. The prophet Henok is born.

228,000 BC = War of Liberation in the Lyra and Vega systems.

190,000 BC = Pelegon arrives from Plejares, with 70,000 of his people, on Earth.[4]

131,000 BC = Refugees from space-time shifted region of Beta-Centauri led by Atlant settle on Earth and establish cities of Greater Atlantis, Lesser Atlantis and Mu. Refugees also from Plejares led by Armus settle in modern day Armenia region. Refugees from the Sirius system also settle on Earth at another location.

113,000 BC = Group that later became The Bafath fail an attempted coup and flee to space-time shifted region of Beta-Centauri.

111,000 BC = The Bafath return led by Arus I and initially conquer Hyperborea in the far north (modern day Florida, USA). Arus II son of Arus I conquers India, known then as Arien, Pakistan and Persia locations and forces the Sumerian forefathers south. The Sumerian forefathers are descendants of the Sirian refugees that settled in 131,000 BC.

110,790 BC = Arien splits off from Hyperborea and allies itself with Mu and Agharta. Hyperborea constantly attacks Mu and Greater Atlantis for the next 502 years.

71,344 BC = Egyptian pyramids built by group of humans from Orion constellation.

48,000 BC = The beginning of the current age of peace of the Plejares star system.

23,988 BC = The Kinten (Chinese) and Niper (Japanese) races arrive from the Lyra star system.

9,498 BC = Greater Atlantis and Mu destroyed by Hyperboreans.[3]

6,339.5 BC = The Destroyer rips Venus out of its orbit around Uranus and "tows" it behind itself in the direction of the earth's (orbital) path.

6,104 BC = Venus breaks into the earth's path and disturbs its rotation in such a way that a new rotational period originates, bringing gigantic earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, floods and elemental storms. Lesser Atlantis in modern day Santorini, Greece is destroyed by the volcanic eruptions.

4,023 BC = Arus XI is murdered by his third born son, Jehavon who took over command of the Hyperboreans, Armus people, the Aryans and Hebraons.

4,006 BC = Venus crosses into the earth's path and lightly disturbs the earth, but without bringing about large catastrophes.

3,683 BC = Jehavon murdered by his son Jehav who then took over command.

3,545 BC = Venus stabilises itself and sets itself into its own path around the sun.

3,343 BC = Jehav murdered by first-born son Arussem but Arussem exiled by his younger brothers Ptaah and Salam. Arussem returns soon after and creates his base beneath the Giza Pyramids. Ptaah and Salam begin to rule Hyperborea with justice, wisdom and kindness.

3,010 BC = Arussem ousted by a mutineer called Henn, known as Jehovah in the tongue of the Hebraons and The Cruel One.

2,080 BC = Jehovah displaced by Kamagol I. Kamagol I forced all earthly religions into his control and created terrible cults which demanded human blood. Kamagol II his son was even worse, he overthrew his father, deprived him of power and let him die miserably in a deep dungeon. Kamagol II introducted the monstrous mass murder of Earth-born terrestrial human beings.

891 BC = The prophet Elia is born.

772 BC = The prophet Jesaia is born.

662 BC = The prophet Jeremia is born.

63 BC = Plejos son of Salam takes over leadership of the civilisation of Hyperborea.

22 BC = Plejos places Hyperborea under the guidance of the Andromedan High Council.

2 BC = The prophet Jmmanuel is born after being conceived by the Plejaren Gabriel and Earth human Mary.

571 AD = The prophet Mohammed is born.

1976 AD = Kamagol II dies aged almost 4000 years old.

1978 AD = All 2,100 members of The Bafath group are arrested and deported to the Neber system. Base under Giza Pyramids removed of all technology and filled with stone.

1982 AD = A splinter group of The Bafath on planet Saban in the Karan star system 2.1 million light years distant are arrested and their base with it's devastating booby trap disarmed.[1][2] ---


--- Source: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline

~~~~~ *** ~~~~~ *** ~~~~~ *** ~~~~~ *** ~~~~~

The SPIRIT now known as Billy, (BEAM) IS the SEVENTH AND LAST PROPHET TO EARTH.

ON EARTH, He previously REINCARNATED in sequence as these Prophets = HENOK, ELIA, JESAIA, JEREMIA, JMMANUEL, AND MOHAMMED. Note, the spelling of these names will vary by the language wherein they are written.

I only speculate now - In the next reincarnations, that Billy may remember who he is. The Spirit so great in Evolution as NOKODEMJON, certainly, by those who will know him then, he will be seen to possess great Wisdom and Knowledge.

Salome


*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Marcela
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

J_rod7:

Thank you for the time line and the link. So, if Billy Meier reincarnates in 2075, his spirit will spend less than the 150 years, roughly 60 years or less in the beyond (I assume due to overpopulation). That means when I am 96, I could see his new personality as a baby, if I live that long…
Salome
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Ramirez
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Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rod.

Thankyou for reposting this information.

Some questions arise about technology & the continuation of groups.

Starting with relatively modern times.

"6,104 BC = Venus breaks into the earth's path and disturbs its rotation in such a way that a new rotational period originates, bringing gigantic earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, floods and elemental storms. Lesser Atlantis in modern day Santorini, Greece is destroyed by the volcanic eruptions. "

I imagine this might be the biblical flood. Can anyone confirm this ?

After such an event losing technology is understandable and archeology only seems to discover evidence of swords, bows & arrows sort of equipment in relation to early civilizations ..... apart from unexplainable gadgets like spark plugs & metalic objects embedded inside very old stone occasionally showing up.

My understanding is that not long before this event ....

"9,498 BC = Greater Atlantis and Mu destroyed by Hyperboreans.[3] "

the opposing factions had advanced technologies including spacecraft (steered an asteroid into Atlantis) so where did these devices vanish to so suddenly forcing humanity to revert to primitive weapons.

Also it doesn't make sense that the Bafath with their technology still intact to 1975 could not have easily conquered any race or continent after 6104 when humans could probably offer negligible resistence.

I guess here is the wrong section for such a discussion so if Rod wishes to post the timeline elsewhere I can copy my reply behind it.
Might be some interest in discussing the issues raised.
Cheers.
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Earthling
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Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 03:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd just like to point out that back in the days of underpopulation, that Billy's spiritform as Jesaia reincarnated a mere 8 years after Elia's death and Jeremia reincarnated only 28 years after Jesaia's death.


Elia Feb. 5, 891 BC - June 4, 780 BC

Jesaia Feb. 7, 772 BC - May 5, 690 BC

Jeremia Feb. 9, 662 BC - Sep. 3, 580 BC
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Marcela
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Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Earthling:

You are right; the time between reincarnations is just a few years. This is something that I haven’t noticed before. I don’t think it is due to underpopulation. It must be related to the spirit form and the mission, because there should be at least 150 years between reincarnations under normal circumstances. I am puzzled now…
Salome
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J_rod7
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Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

***

Yes, Earthling and all, I do also see this. My opinion is that mistakes were either made in the original translations, or that certain values in the chronology were not carried forward across the internet, or entered on the webpage with these errors.

If it the case of translation errors, then we would have the problems with the work given by Wendelle Stevens, if that was the original source referenced below. The later contacts (251 & 256) were most likely from GaiaGuys original postings.

At the start of the history, as found at FutureOfMankind.co, is written: [ "This page attempts to list, in a single location, all major events in history..." ] There is a need to correct the information at the website. This would be a "detective work" of some magnitude.

[ "Sources

" Contact Report 38
" Contact Report 70
" Contact Report 251
" Contact Report 256

[ "Prophets

" http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/3279.html#POST5815
" http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/7664.html#POST28773
" http://www.tjresearch.info/OM.htm

[ "[edit]References

" ↑ Contact Report 179 and And Still They Fly! 2nd Edition page 242.
" ↑ Contact Report 107 and And Still They Fly! 2nd Edition page 239.
" ↑ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/7664.html#POST28773
" ↑ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/7735.html#POST28797
" ↑ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/9270.html#POST34120
" ↑ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/2046.html#POST5396" ] ---

---[ "This Wiki is not an official website of FIGU and does not claim to contain 100% accurate or true information although it is presented here as such." ]

So, then, one may check all the referenced sources and see what has changed or has been mis-interpreted. Forum postings should be considered as "secondary" (second-hand) references.

***
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Marcela
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Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rod:

Actually I checked on the book “Kelch der Wahrheit” and the years are correct. Once I ask what I really need to ask, I will try to remember this question.
Salome

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