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Marcela
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Post Number: 140
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forbes.com identified the cleanest city in the world. Take a guess, I guessed it right ;)

http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/15/worlds-cleanest-countries-business-energy-clean-countries.html?partner=yahoobuzz
Salome
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Schantz
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Post Number: 56
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Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marcela,

Your guess of Switzerland being the cleanest city in the world is incorrect. Switzerland is a country.
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Marcela
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Schantz:
I know...I realized that shortly after I posted the news. Silly me..but did you guess it too? I mean what other country could it be, right?

We should follow their example!
Salome
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Marcela
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Schantz and everybody:

What I really wanted to say with this article is that USA, being the number 1 nation in the world in terms of economy, is almost the last in environmental protection. Have you seen the numbers at the end?

Lake Michigan and the great lakes have high quantities of mercury and heavy metals. The coast of California too. Scientists discovered that whales have toxics in their blood in really high amounts.

There is a plastic island of the sized of Texas between California and Hawaii. Plastic Island!

All pesticides, weed killers, etc go to the rivers and oceans and the fish are disappearing.

Golf courses are literally destroying the planet. USA has the most number of golf courses in the world. Go to planet green.com. That is my source. So, please:

If you have a garden: don’t use weed killers, use vinegar. Don’t use pesticides: use lady bugs.

Don’t use plastic anymore! Use reusable fabric bags or recycle the plastic at your local store.

This is what I am doing, and I am not perfect, but I am starting.
Salome
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 820
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Hello Marcela,

The problems in the USA, are caused by the GREED of the Industrial and Manufacturing industries. They, with their Billions in loose change, have thoroughly corrupted the Congress and Government of this nation. They have been running unbridled without regulation, having bought Senators and Representatives to pass legislation to their favor.

How to get HONEST, incorruptible people into congress is difficult, when the greedy industrialists own both sides, both parties running for any office. There is the expression here: "The election choice is between Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dumb."

Salome

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Marcela
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Post Number: 144
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Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

J_rod:

You couldn’t be more right. What we do against the environment is nothing in comparison to the overwhelming destruction of the factories, pharmaceuticals, military practices and agro industries. Everything is supposedly regulated by the US government, but really, they have been doing terrible things behind our backs.

There is some rare news about this destruction and what do people do? Nothing. I agree with you that the US government is corrupted and maliciously controlling its population to suck the most out of this life.

So what do we do? Should we just accept this? Or should we demand the authorities to do something? I think that left wingers are bad, but right wingers are worse. So we have to vote between bad or worse. Nice picture.

I think we should keep pushing authorities, because at the end if we go down they will go down with us because this planet won’t do exceptions for anybody. Then, when everything is pretty much screwed up, then everybody will say…haaa maybe we should have done some more...

and how is this all related to figu? Well, let's not forget that helping the environment is helping with the mission as well. :-)
Salome
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Adysor
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Post Number: 143
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Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most of those countries are untouched by war...
Adrian.
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J_rod7
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Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Hi Marcela,

Yes, you're sure right about that = "because at the end if we go down they will go down with us because this planet won’t do exceptions for anybody." (I like the way you phrased that ending).

IMO, If we can get enough persons WITHIN the respective governments onboard with the Global Over-Population Initiative, to reduce the total to less than one-Billion (530-Million ideal). that will be the real solution. Get this out to enough different ones, we're bound to find a few which are simpatico.

At that population level, there will not be the current huge demand for 'more-more-more' like it is now. Many of those factories and military-industrial polluters will have to shut down. Well, we're planting the seeds now, but like any good tree, will take time to bear good fruit. Maybe in the next or following reincarnation, we'll see blossoms on the tree.

I'm also thinking that an idea Billy proposed might be necessary. His idea is to establish an International Peace Troop Force. I don't think the current form of the United Nations is up to the task. It would require a large part of all the current nations armies to come under guidance of a dedicated council.

Perhaps this could be an agenda to put on our plates (for desert) after getting the majority of the Global Birth-Stop materials distributed. Activism - that's what is needed. I suppose this is another of those "if we don't do it. who will?"

Well, in chatting with our newest member, Dev, I suggested that he could join with us in these efforts. Don't know if he'll come in or not, he has some issues of his own to work out. We don't twist arms here - not our style.

In Peace ... Salome

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Earthling
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Post Number: 243
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/04/kids-worry-about-environment.php

One out of three children aged 6 to 11 fears that Ma Earth won't exist when they grow up, while more than half—56 percent—worry that the planet will be a blasted heath (or at least a very unpleasant place to live), according to a new survey.
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Marcela
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Post Number: 145
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

J_rod;

My consolation is that one day those responsible for the destruction of the environment will have to drink and breath the polluted water s and air, but not as a thought of revenge, but rather as an finally eye opening experience for them. The sad part is that innocents (children) and guilty ones will pay the same price sooner or later. What we can do meanwhile is decrease our impact in the environment. For example, we are the consumers of plastic bags. Nobody forces us into their use. I sometimes forget my fabric bags, but I have to say that I don’t see a lot of people using them at all; even thou, the stores have fabric bags for sale.

Earthling:

I am very surprised of the numbers. I think that in part the religious groups are also spreading the stupid idea of the end of the world and that really has an impact in little minds. Instead we are living a time of conscience development, and we should be hopeful for the days to come.
Salome
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 200
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott ;

How did we get to Wednesday, April 22, 2009 so fast ?

Salome , Mark
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Scott
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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe the wormhole imposed some type of daylight savings?..You start at the beginning in April and end up in June at the other end???
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh sorry Scott , i didnt see the april.... oh , i had my shades on , that was it , yeah
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Earthling
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Post Number: 266
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Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 05:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A little bit from Contact 154 Friday, December 4, 1981, 23:01 o'clock; which Matthew Deagle, conspiracy hobbyist/theorist/proponent may find interesting, as well as other humans perusing this forum or planet.

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=386805075


Billy:
Then that’s right. I still have another question, but which doesn’t refer to these matters but to smoking: As Semjase once told me, but so did you, smoking is much less harmful than what the anti-smoking organizations, etc. have always claimed. But Semjase explained to me very specifically that these anti-smoking campaigns were not steered because of smoking and to be against it but, rather, to cover up something far worse. About that, I would gladly like to learn something more from you if you can give me information. For my part, I only know from Semjase that scientists and even certain governments are behind this campaign against smoking because they want to cover up their criminal activities through this, so namely the atmosphere and landscape contaminations with various poisons and the like. But mainly, as Semjase said, the most diverse contaminations produce the largest percentage of all those cases of disease that are well-known as cancer and that are attributed to smoking pleasure. Thus, the criminal contamination of the atmosphere and of the food, etc. is concealed by this, while these diseases among humanity are simply ascribed just to smoking. But everything is to blame for this great contamination which has contaminated food and which has produced, deposited, or allowed to escape all sorts of substances, even if only in tiny amounts, such as radioactive wastes, respectively – outfalls in hospitals or nuclear power plants, etc. At the same time, the escaped radioactive radiation is kept in the air and whirled around, as it is also stored in all existing matter. Therefore, if a person or an otherwise living organism inhales such air, then he automatically arrives into the deadly .. of the radioactive radiation, which also has an incredibly strong carcinogenic effect. And like the cancer in the people of Earth since the first atomic bomb explosion occurred on the Earth, it will become clear to everyone what reasons actually lie behind these things. It isn’t that cancer was already on the rise before, but it only came about since humans and all earthly life forms began to eat contaminated food that was contaminated with live agents and hazardous substances and since the time that they began to breathe radioactive air.

Quetzal:
52. That is correct, both your words about the issues surrounding food, nuclear use, radioactivity, as well as the fact that criminal activities are pursued in order to make smoking pleasure responsible for this scourge cancer of humanity through the use of wrong propaganda.
53. Smoking pleasure is truly only to blame for this epidemic to a lesser extent, and such has been the case for a long time because the actual damages of smoking are of a different nature, such as in the area of nerve destruction of the respiratory organs, etc., as well as with the impairment of blood circulation through deposits in the bloodstream, etc.
54. But all these features of smoking pleasure are still seen as relatively less than the damages of the body and organs of the person and of his necessary physical development, etc. through widespread vegetarianism, as well as through the criminal pollutions and contaminations of food and of vitally important substances of all kinds and of the air, but also through the released radioactivity.

Billy:
Then vegetarianism is likely more harmful to the person than an average amount of smoking?

Quetzal:
55. That is very significantly correct, but this shouldn’t suggest that this is an animating means for smoking pleasure.
56. Smoking is harmful in every case, but often less harmful than other wrong actions and lifestyles
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Johnnybalmain
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Post Number: 34
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Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Earthling,
A very interesting read.
I watched a show on tv the other day about the genuine threat to world health that plastic is causing. Apparently plastic waste attracts every known poison and stores it so that when accidently ingested into the food chain it has the capability of slowly accumulating then killing its host with a multiple of poisons.The oceans are a sea of plastic waste poisoning the earth's foodchain starting from the bottom eg plankton, and moving forever upward. Pretty scary stuff. Apparently there is no escape now that is negative.
Peace
John
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Ramirez
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Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Johnybalmain.

Sea of plastic ??
How can such a thing come to exist ?
If you consider bottle caps, soda bottles, plastic bags, suntan lotion etc left on beaches or sometimes carelessly dumped in rivers close to ocean outlets, items carelessly dropped from small boats then perhaps the action of tides might scoop up quantities of these materials and concentrate them in patches.

But a sea of plastic .... from where would such quantities originate ..... unless loaded into large vessels from land tips and purposely taken to an offshore area then dumped overboard.
Cheers.
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Indi
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just put 'sea of plastic' into a google search and then you can see it for yourself on youtube.

Robyn
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Earthling
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Post Number: 268
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dead Sea peril: sinkholes swallow up the unwary

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20090623/ap_tr_ge/ml_travel_brief_israel_dead_sea_sinkholes

The phenomenon, Raz said, stems from a dire water shortage, compounded in recent years by tourism and chemical industries as well as a growing population. "This is the most remarkable evidence of the brutal interference of humans in the Dead Sea," he said.
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Edward
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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 03:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Johnnybalmain....


Have seen what you are describing, a couple of times on the television. Thus,
people are noticing this(Anti Pollution advocates, so to speak).

Billy even makes clear... the Effect of the Plastics, PVC, and what not, which
are 'dumped' into our well known oceans. And the effect it will have on the
sea life forms; it be Altering their material composition and even their way
Being. Seems to 'confuse' even their Instinctive/Distinction Senses, as I
understand it to be. Which is a pity; which in turn even 'disorientates' their
Magnetic Senses, which steer them to what ever location they want to migrate
to; was even suggested in one documentary I once watched, this too is the
cause of the whales and what not to strand on the beaches, among others; due,
to their Magnetic Senses (Orientation) mechanism...can not function correctly,
as it should. So their Instinctive mechanism, truly becomes a - SEE/SENSE and
DO - action...which drives them on to the beach locations eventhough, this
means for them to be stranded on the beach shores, and which becomes their
death.....alas.


Edward.
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Thomas2008
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Post Number: 14
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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd Like to ask Billy if the swine flu threat is as serious as the media is saying it is?
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J_rod7
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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****

Hello Thomas2008,

[ "Swine Flu: ...

'In May 2009 Billy stated the following regarding the recent swine flu outbreak:

"Ptaah did not give details but said that there is some danger of a pandemy. The main reasons for such epidemics or pandemies are mass tourism, world trade and globalization."

"(Note by CF: … and the close cohabitation of animals/birds/pets and human beings.)"

So don't kiss any pigs, no matter how good they look with lipstick.

*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Hendrikus1970
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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the cleanest city in the world is to my info
Calpe wich is a city in spain.you can look this up!
it has the cleanest air becouse its between montains and the people there have the longest life expectations.
the very rich and people who know this go there to life and get old
Salome,Erik
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Davo
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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Eric,

Can you provide a link?

I would have thought that the city with the cleanest AIR in the world would be one that is situated somewhere in the southern hemisphere and not the northern hemisphere for obvious reasons. Heres what I found: I found that the city (country/state) with the cleanest air in the world is Tasmania, a state of south eastern Australia has the cleanest measured air on earth. There is a 24hr air monitoring station at Cape Grim on the NW of the island state. 90% of Tasmania's power is hydro generated so they are a very green state. It's actually a very nice place to visit and the climate in summer is very mild with mostly clear sunny skies. Away from the lights of the main city of Hobart the night skies are simply stunning too.

I would say that Tasmania is easily the cleanest place on earth. Here's the links and what I found -


Tasmania - Best and Purest Air in the World

The Cape Grim Baseline Air Pollution Station, located in the far north west of the Tasmania, regularly monitors Tasmania as having the world’s cleanest air.

The lack of pollution is due to the island’s southerly latitude, its position in the Southern Ocean, low-key development, distance from other land masses, and the cleansing effect of the Roaring Forties. The Cape Grim station is located in the path of the Roaring Forties, which are strong westerly winds that carry pollution-free air thousands of kilometres across the Southern Ocean.

The facility is jointly run by the Bureau of Meteorology and CSIRO and records vital information about changes to the atmospheric composition of the Southern Hemisphere.


http://www.clickforaustralia.com/Tas_air_quality.htm



The World’s Cleanest Air

Clean-Air Credentials: “The air in Tasmania is as clean as it is in Antarctica,” .....

http://www.travelandleisure.com/slideshows/the-worlds-cleanest-air

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