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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 194
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 02:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just thought I would share with you this little bit of hope full news (if its true!!)......

Barack Obama 'to reject Afghanistan war options in favour of plan with clear exit strategy'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6549962/Barack-Obama-to-reject-Afghanistan-war-options-in-favour-of-plan-with-clear-exit-strategy.html
My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc
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Scott
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Post Number: 1875
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Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ex Prime Minister of Finland speaking on the Swine Flu Hoax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTgyakGAddM
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stephen, will he be clearing out the troops and leaving the black ops there?

I think population control started in the U.S. in 2006 when they started vaccinating young women with Gardasil for the HPV, which supposedly causes cervical cancer. Polysorbate 80 is one of the ingredients of the vaccine and when tested on rats, causes infertility. So maybe that's how they're doing it or.....
This swine flu is now being used as a cover for the MRSA which is a flesh eating staph pneumonia. The MRSA is a superbug that cannot be killed by regular methods. Funny that they don't really want to link it to over use of antibiotics in animals (factory farms). I quit eating pork a few years ago simply because my practitioner was always diagnosing me with 3 or 4 parasites (and now I have none). So if you are still eating meat, make sure you know the person who raised it. Also realize that if you live in a city, the water filtration system is unable to filter out the pharmaceutical drugs which end up in our water supply. Reverse Omosis works, but also filters out minerals, so a supplement is needed.

http://www.naturalnews.com/026650_MRSA_bacteria_disease.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/023725_MRSA_health_health_risk.html
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Joe
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Post Number: 75
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott, with regard to your Swine Flu Hoax YouTube link, Dr. Rauni Kilde is a retired Chief medical Officer of Finland, not an ex Prime Minister. According to this Wikipedia link she's a ufologist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rauni-Leena_Luukanen-Kilde

Anyway after watching some of this 52 minute YouTube clip I think she spreads disinformation either intentionally or unintentionally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpPXf0oLKRA
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 195
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Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Justsayno

I think we will have to wait and see what Obama does with Afghanistan. I would hope he does the right thing and pull the troops out and not fall to the pressure of the war mongers in power. Possibly he will leave the black ops there. You know the war is more about oil and drugs then anything else. Its just a question on how far Obama is willing to go against other pressures, I personally think.

regarding Vaccinations.

I am not a expert on vaccines. I know there has always been a lot of talk about how damaging they are and how easy it would be to inject millions of gullable persons with some sort of fertility "gene" or disease.

If the agenda is to make billions of women infertile then this is a unhumane act. I myself dont know if there is an agenda or not. It is hard to separate fact from fiction or truth from conspiracy.

Maybe it would be a good question to ask Billy in the next round of Q and A's

To be honest I would not put it past these rich wannabee leaders to do something stupid like inject persons to make them infertile. But on the other hand if there is a 5 billion or so drop in the human population it will not be good for business and the economy as they keep on going on about every day.

So i personally do not know my friend. I think Billy may have the answers.

Thanks
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Scott
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Post Number: 1876
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 05:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Joe for the correction and your comments.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 18
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stephen I would hope he does the right thing too, but maybe his hands are tied on this one. I admit that last year, I was all for extending our Canadian troops mission in Afghanistan. We were told how wonderful it's been since young girls are able to go to school. Under the taliban they were not. We were lead to believe that our troops were making a real difference and now we'll be there until July 2011. I really feel bad about this now.

As far as the Gardasil goes, young girls in 41 states and immigrants, have to have the vaccine. And now the manufacturer - Merck is saying how wonderful it works on boys. In Canada it is not mandatory but they just did a sweep through the school system starting this fall where I live. The only kid in my daughter's class (age 14) that didn't get it, was a Catholic girl. So I guess it's damned if you do and damned if you don't, lol. We'll have to wait a few years to find out if these girls are able to have children.

When the swine flu first broke out there was also a major outbreak on a pig farm (factory - he had about 3,000 pigs) in this area. They blamed it on a farm worker recently going to Mexico. Then an inspector from the CFIA got it too and recovered. But then the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg was the first to map the genomic sequence of the strain from Mexico and claimed it was "novel" (new). So when I sent an email to the PHAC asking them if this lab was able to identify the DNA markers that would be able to determine if this flu was man made or occured naturally. They sent me an email saying that it came from Mexico. So again I asked:
"Since the National Microbiology Labratory in Winnipeg was the first to decipher the genetic sequence, there are genetic markers which are able to determine whether this virus was genetically engineered. So can you answer
this, is this swine flu genetically engineered? And please don't tell me (again) that it came from Mexico, because that's a non answer."
And of course, no reply. Not sure if it was because this lab was named in a lawsuit. If it's an old swine flu, I'm sure I would have had it already as I grew up on a mixed farm and spent some time in the pig pen, lol. So if it truly is novel, we have to ask where it came from. Finding out that PCV2 vaccination is given to piglets within days after birth and is used specifically to keep the mortality rate down and make it so the pigs live long enough to reach market weight. That's the meat they are selling in stores. Please note that the pigs also suffer from hepatitis like symptoms and remember that those are the ones that should have died due to something seriously wrong with them. Normally post-weaning mortality rate can be around 35%. This vaccine seems to bring it down to 4%.
Sheila
Justsayno to eating pork unless you know the source
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Joe
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Post Number: 76
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Milky Way as you've never seen it before: The colourful centre of our galaxy in all its glory

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1226815/The-Milky-Way-youve-seen-The-intense-centre-galaxy-glory.html
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 89
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wrote to Mariann at FIGU to ask her to ask Billy about the rumored incident in the Ukraine. Here is what she wrote back:

"This afternoon I asked Billy about the Ukraine. He doesn't know about the Ukraine, but he said that the vaccine was very dangerous because it had two components. The first I cannot remember any more, but the second one is an intensifier, which means that you actually can get the swine flu. So hands off from the vaccination!

Salome
Mariann"

I asked her to find out what that first component is. The second one may be what they call an adjuvant (see: http://www.rense.com/general87/mill.htm).
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 04:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael....


Interesting input!

Have heard of the Gulf War I Illness. And the relation of the - immune
adjuvants -.

Seems, they are all in the same pot together, eh?? Makers and researchers!

Well, than, it Smells indeed!

Good you asked Mariann to Billy. And its surprising answer.

"Immune adjuvants" present, in the vaccinations truly puts us all on another
road....to destruction, alas to say.

Instead of 'improving' the vaccine...they demoralize it's contents!!

Excellent update! Puts more Facts into focus and perspective, now hearing it
from Billy.

We can hear...this-and-that...and are in many cases unknowing and unsure to
the facts, alas. Just Human Nature...I guess.

Even here is debate. But, they have gone through to vaccinate who ever wants
to be.

I never have a shot against any type of cold/flu....etc, and which will NEVER
take place!

So, I guess the idea....that the vaccination would give 'some' protection is
not valid, in any shape or form, alas.

I think at the PAR/Pl'sRReal board it was discussed, the association of the
makers of the previous vaccines concerning the flu's, were also in it
together(?). Can not remember if they are the same concerning this
vaccination, though.


Edward.
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Jgarbush
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 09-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stephen,

I understand that we need to get out Afghanistan, but it's a shame that all those boys died in vein. On another note. I've been doing some lookup of zero point energy because I read in a post stating that we are way behind on free energy and we should have had it by now.

http://www.guba.com/watch/3000096534

http://www.kewego.it/video/iLyROoafM3UN.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efCelx7qe_M
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Redbeard
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Post Number: 146
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Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all, this youtube video was shown to me about a week ago about a woman that received just a so called normal vaccination shot and the disabling effect on her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja7lCIp04YY&feature=related

We also have close friends whose son went into army and got real sick and developed a personality change and couldn't focus. He later got help as it was determined that he had heavy metal poisoning, mostly aluminum and was able to have it celated out of his system and he went back to normal.

When I was about 12 I received what was a required, so called, booster shot in order to go to scout camp, which made me extremely sick at first and then unconscious for 3 days.
Peace, Matt
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward, I think this is the incident you are refering to. Funny that the WHO never got to the bottom of which countries got this vaccine already. Or if they did, they didn't tell anyone, lol. I'm not sure if this link still works so I'll post the whole article.
There was also an unpublished study done in Canada which seemed to indicate that you are twice as likely to get the swine flu if you were vaccinated last year for the regular flu. It made a few provinces suspend their swine flu vaccine roll out but ultimately it was our media who ran the story about the 14 year old hockey player who died of the swine flu. Previous to this story 2/3rds of our population was not getting the vaccination. After this story there was a shortage of vaccine. I blame the media for causing mass hysteria.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... hub=Health

"TORONTO -- The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses.
And an official of the World Health Organization's European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International's research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.
"At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and occupational risk is minimal at present," medical officer Roberta Andraghetti said from Copenhagen, Denmark.
"But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau."
The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.
The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn't die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses.
Public health authorities concerned about what has been described as a "serious error" on Baxter's part have assumed the death of the ferrets meant the H5N1 virus in the product was live. But the company, Baxter International Inc., has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event."
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Justsayno
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Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Michael for getting the word from Billy. I've received so many phone calls asking me whether or not they should get the swine flu vaccine. I always say Just say no. I never had any hard facts other than Baxter's fiasco which set presidence for our vaccines to be contaminated. Also the microbiology lab for being complacent with their mapping of this novel virus. I also compared the 14 year old hockey player whose mom was a nurse and let him play in a tournament all day even though he was sick to the original soldier at Fort Dix who died of swine flu in 1976 who had been sick in bed for three days then was ordered to march for hours and then dropped dead. I'm really not so sure the 14 year old boy didn't die from an overdose of tylenol. It will be nice to say that Billy says not to get the vaccine. :-)

As far as the recent shooting at Fort Hood, makes you wonder if this psychiatist found out about some sort of cloning of the soldiers. Instead they're going to blame it on Islam.
See Contact Report 215.
Sheila
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Jgarbush
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 09-2009
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wanted to chime in about Ft. Hood. My father retired from the 4th ID. A few years ago a soldier went on a killing spree. He killed several people at the night club right down the street from my dad's house. The guy had a list of 10 people he wanted to kill. I think that because of the times it is being more publicized due to media hype, but this has been a normal type of thing since we started sending our soldiers to Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't think this is part of any type of conspiracy.
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Joe
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Post Number: 77
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Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Key oil figures were distorted by US pressure, says whistleblower

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/09/peak-oil-international-energy-agency

This is certainly not good news if it's true.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 23
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Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do you think it's a conspiracy that over 600 species of animals have already been cloned in your country? So what's the next step? Humans?
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 328
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thinking about getting vaccinated .....

This series of 3 YouTube videos featuring Gary Null might help you decide.
Part 1&2 = 10 minutes Part 3 = 5 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYq5fYXWrZg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QEhPnlUlk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyT3dN9gEY&feature=related
Cheers.
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Adysor
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Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cloning extinct species, if possible, may be a good thing though. But there are a series of multiple problems that arise with that.
Adrian.
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Ramirez
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Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes I agree Adrian, how will the scientists find an honest politician.
Cheers.
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Edward
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Posted on Friday, November 20, 2009 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Justsayno.....


Yes, I am familiar with your posting. Was mentioned at the PAR/Pl'sRREal
board.

I also thought it to be an incidental occurrence. And which would not mean,
that all vaccines were produced in such manner(?).

But, in how far it is linked to the Gulf War I Illness components is made
clear, but perhaps...there is still a difference in the producing of it; i.e.,
whilst they improved it this will result that these upgrades are somewhat
different in it's composition? Which I think we also have to take heed to??


Edward.
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Lmukiraine
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Posted on Friday, November 20, 2009 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Folks,

I haven't been on the forum in years, it feels really good to be back!

Have any of you watched the documentary "The Obama Deception"? I'd love to get some insight from Billy/FIGU on the sincerity of President Obama and his real ambitions. The documentary, which quotes some known facts (but also contains utter nonsense about global warming being an orchestrated myth!), purports that President Obama is merely a puppet, the new face of the same controllers whose ultimate goal is total world domination mainly through the central banks worldwide. These controllers are supposedly made up of the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission and the Council of Foreign Relations.

Is there any truth to this or is this just another hollow conspiracy theory? The role of the privately owned U.S Federal Reserve Bank seems to support this claim but one can't be certain. Does anyone here have an informed opinion on this?
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 284
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Posted on Friday, November 20, 2009 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi L ;

I don't remember your code name from before . Are you Russian ? Who were you before , I mean ,in this life . Oh, you know what I mean .

MC

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