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Kingman
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Post Number: 700
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 09:44 pm: | 
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Lmuk,
I am chief know-it-all for Obama, so you'll have to deal with me(smile!) Obama's plans are going as well as expected considering all the retarded Republican/Warmongers/Right-Wing Nutjobs/Israeli-agents/Corporate/etc., interference.
Obama's first year and he's kickin' ass! Wait! It's not even a full year. Amazing!(you should see the glossy eye'd Messiah-loving look in my eyes, ahhhh!)
I must report back to my handlers now. Good day.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Jgarbush
Member
Post Number: 52
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 10:07 pm: |
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Sitkaa,
The article with the timeline was pretty good. I think the author had a lot of speculation though, but he made it clear that it was speculation. My question to you is where did this guy get the connection of the Jewish manipulation for their current conflict. |
Kingman
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Post Number: 701
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 10:52 pm: |
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Here's some interesting info, predicted by Billy.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34042394/ns/technology_and_science-innovation/
a friend in america
Shawn
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Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 295
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 01:55 am: |
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Sitkaa ;
I think that if you focus on the Plejaren material ,as you say that you prefer to do , that would be a minor miracle . Please see to it that you do so . In any case , you explained yourself , and it falls short of being worthy to mention again .
There might be another law to arrest someone who bothers someone when they're working a repair under an automobile ... or repairing a country ..... Jewish ancestry or not .
have a nice day . |
Sitkaa
Member
Post Number: 92
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 06:18 am: |
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hero worshipping religion of obama...
goes like this -
bless your heart you poor lost idiot:
insult
insult
denial
a wee bit o truth
insult
denial
a wee bot o truth
denial
insult
have a nice day
yea right - a few choice words would be appropriate here - but thankfully my memory is short and I will forget who said what, not that we should care anyway
I mean seriously - why bother spending an hour researching and finding even basic stuff for you to chew on when all you are gonna do is throw it back at me like its garbage?
ridiculous hero worshipping religion of obama
Love is always the way
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 06:34 am: |
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Jgarbush - I too liked the timeline for putting together relevant factoids, although it misses a fair amount that I would have added.
As for the Jewish connection, I suspect he follows the writings of Henry Makow, et al. Dr. Makow is pretty close in a lot of ways, but he goes off the beaten path in order to get there.
So far the explanation that has made the most sense to me is the Plejaren one, which unfortunately leaves out alot of needed details.
I am not a follower of all the gurus Clifford highlighted, but at least they admonish one to look inside for discernment of the truth, a process which seems to be lacking on this board.
Love is always the way
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 10:23 am: |
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Hi Shawn, except they've already realized that isn't cost effective to grow meat in the lab. Only the offspring of this type of meat is let into the food chain. Apparently you can't tell that from regular meat. But I can, it smells and tastes different. Have you ever ate organic meat?
Hi Jgarbush, me paranoid? I think I should be more paranoid, lol! In Canada they don't deny seniors anything, whether they smoke or not. My dad who was a WWII vet (and smoked all his life, but did not see any action due to coming down with the mumps right before they were to be shipped off to Hong Kong) had veterans affairs pay for his snow removal, his house cleaning and his lawn being mowed. Over and above what he made from his Old Age Security and Canada Pension Plan and all his medications were free. I'm not sure what they do with vets in the states, but I have heard that 25% of them are homeless. Our gov't recently did a study that said that there are now 12 homeless vets on our streets.
I've never heard of anyone here losing their homes because they cannot pay their medical bills. The difference is we have torte laws (which basically must prove negligence, no suing for hurt feelings) and it's our doctors, not the insurance companies, who determine the course of treatment. Also we pay about twice as much in tax as you do. Since I've never known anything different but was in the insurance biz for about 7 years, I would take my system over yours, anytime.  |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 10:45 am: |
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And thanks for your comment, Jgarbush, because the truth can always be found somewhere in the middle.
At one point this year, there were more black ops than actual U.S. troops in Afghanistan. Does that mean I'm still paranoid, if I can provide some proof?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16230 |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 297
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 12:55 pm: |
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Besides name calling , Sitkaa ,Irish slang terms and references to an Egyptian river , could you prefer your way to the subject of the Plejaren as you have indicated (since you don't want to expound on this political subject )?
I expect that you at would at least want to be consistent , and do what you say you're going to do .
I have no names to call , no abuses to return .
At least have a not so angry day , ay'aight ? |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 01:08 pm: |
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In my case, I didn't vote for Obama and I don't think that his economic or Afghanistan policies are good at all. I do think that he is an unusually intelligent and thoughtful person to have as president. I also think that the mass of the (mainly religious) American people will, as I've said before probably, ultimately succeed in getting exactly what they want and deserve, i.e. the complete destruction of the country, civil wars, idiotic religious leaders, etc.
At that point, perhaps some thoughtful people will reflect and lament that Obama didn't get a certain type of understanding and support, leaving some of these other issues alone, many probably largely dictated from behind the scenes anyway. |
Jgarbush
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 02:21 pm: |
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Sitkaa,
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/meier/gaiaguys/meierb28.htm
"Meier's mission - "to initiate the Earth mankind into the real truth, to bring the way of real peace and love"; when Meier comes to public attention there will be great power struggles with America, Russia & China vying for enslaving world government & the Zionists (with the help of Christian religions) will try to subjugate the Earth through bloodshed; "Zionism is a tool of the world enslaving forces..." "Evolution must be allowed to run its course. As well, though we may not like such, we cannot disturb the course of history." --Asket" From http://www.theyfly.com/cnotes.html
http://www.theyfly.com/The_Chemtrail_Conspiracy.html
I put my information above so that my question may be answered afterward. All of the Meier material that I've read so far states that there is no world government and that the banks are not to blame. The above material conflicts what I've read. Any insight? |
Kingman
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Post Number: 702
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 02:50 pm: |
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Sitkaa,
You're funny! I didn't originally think you had any humor in you and now you make me laugh so loud! Thanks for all your completely useless info that is absolutely hilarious. Keep it coming good buddy!
a friend in america
Shawn
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Jgarbush
Member
Post Number: 54
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 03:07 pm: |
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Lmuk,
I would never say this on a discussion board but you really went overboard. I think you should check yourself into an insane asylum and contact us once you have taken your meds for a while. It's not about republic ant's or dummycrats. There are no party lines here and I would appreciate it if you would keep your hard line politics to yourself. |
Jgarbush
Member
Post Number: 55
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 03:14 pm: |
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Michael,
I don't think she would have raised the issue because it could have backfired on the party and would have put McCain in office. She's a hard liner and wouldn't do anything to hurt the party. |
Jgarbush
Member
Post Number: 56
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 08:14 am: |
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Michael,
I don't think that Obama is intelligent at all. If you've ever seen the movie six degrees of separation with Will Smith? Will Smith was a prostitute who got to know a rich guy. The guy teaches him to talk intelligently. He takes that information and comes into the lives of all of the guy who taught him friends. No one knew or thought Will Smith was a homeless prostitute. I think that is what Obama is. |
Jgarbush
Member
Post Number: 57
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 08:21 am: |
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Justsayno,
I think you misunderstood what they meant by military contractors. What they are talking about includes logistics personnel such as cooks, paper pushers, and truck drivers. I know this because before I moved from Ft. Hood Texas to San Francisco California I looked at going to Iraq to be an overpaid help. |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 37
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 08:30 am: |
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Funny Jgarbush, I just finished reading the chemtrail conspiracy last night. It was in the '70's or early '80's that western Canada used to "seed" the clouds to try and stop them from producing hail. This practise was discontinued, but is a fact.
Also Winnipeg (along with St. Louis and Minneapolis) were used as a testing ground for simulated anthrax in the early '50's by the U.S. military (Project Saint Jo). According to Robert Graysmith, author of Amerithrax "Because of the small amounts inhaled, no illnesses were ever connected to the secret aerosol bombardment." |
Jgarbush
Member
Post Number: 58
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 08:35 am: |
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Justsayno,
I post via email, so I apologize for multiple posts. The big difference between our two countries is you guys in Canada are socialist and we are a capitalist democracy. Having been homeless myself at one point in my life I think I have a better perspective on the homeless veterans. They are homeless because they choose to. They get first preference on everything including housing. The big problem with homeless veterans is that most of them are drug addicts or alcoholics. If they moved into housing they would have less to spend and since they get first dibs on shelter, food, and housing there is no need for them to get off of the street. That brings me to another issue. Homelessness in this country is a business. You can't get help unless you have a drug or alcohol problem. I once had to lie and say I was an alcoholic so that I could stop sleeping under a bridge so I could shower to get a job. The system in this country is designed to keep people homeless. They get more money if veterans are homeless as well.
On your other point in denying seniors benefits, they don't. Every senior gets Medicare which is a universal healthcare. The government is trying to phase out smoking and whatever else they think is bad for you, which in turn is going to start causing people to get denied for any government benefit. I think what they are trying to do is force their propaganda on people. |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 311
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 11:23 am: |
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Greeting the moderators and fellow members,
Update on the current president of the United States of America - from FIGU Sonder-Bulletin (special Bulletin) no 50; November 2009.
Auszug aus dem 479. Kontaktgespräch vom 5. September 2009.
"Ptaah: ...Aussergewöhnliches ergibt sich auch in bezug auf den USA-Präsidenten Barack Obama, denn er wird die unsinnigen und wirren Pläne des vorgegangenen Präsidenten und Kriegshetzers Bush hinsichtlich des geplanten nordosteuropäischen Raketenabwehrsystems zunichte machen und das Ganze ausser Kraft setzen, folglich er einen Strategiewechsel vollzieht und den schwachsinnig und kriegshetzerisch zu nennenden Aufbau des Systems verhindert. Dann ergibt sich, dass beim UNO-Sicherheitsrat eine wichtige Resolution verabschiedet wird.
Eine Resolution, die auf den Abbau von atomaren Waffen ausgerichtet ist und die auf die ersten diesbezüglichen Bemühungen des USA-Präsidenten Barack Obama zurückführt. Ein Akt, der nicht nur von Russland, sondern auch von diversen anderen Staaten willkommen geheissen werden wird.
Er wird der erste Staatspräsident aud der Erde sein, der diesbezüglich vernünftig handelt und dafür auch den Friedens-Nobelpreis erhalten wird.
Das allerdings wird rund um die Welt nicht derart gewürdigt, wie es richtig wäre, sondern es werden von Politikern und Journalisten usw. dumme Reden gegen Barack Obama geführt und ihm untergeschoben, dass er sich die Auszeichnung künftig erst verdienen müsse.
Welche Leistung er jedoch allein schon damit vollbringt, dass erstmals ein Abbau des Raketenabwehrsystems und der atomaren Waffen in internationale staatliche Gespräche kommt, das wird durch die Dummheit jener nicht anerkannt und verstanden werden, welche in ihrer Selbstsucht und Überheblichkeit Obamas Leistung nicht zu würdigen verstehen."
Rough, unofficial and unauthorized translation:
"Ptaah: something unusual (pecular/extraordinary) results (takes place/follows) also regarding the USA president Barack Obama, for [because] he will nullify (annul/set aside) the unreasonable and confused plans of the former president and 'warmonger' Bush regarding the planned northeastEuropean anti-missile defense system, and will repeal (suspend/render inoperative) the whole [thing]; he consequently (therefore) carries out a change of strategy and prevents the build-up of the system, which system could be called silly (irrational/feeble-minded) and 'warmongering'.
It will then result\follow, that the UN Security Council will adopt an important resolution. A resolution, which is directed to [intended to/aimed at] the dismantling/removal of atomic weapons and which [resolution] is to be attributed to the first efforts of the USA president Barack Obama on this matter. An act, which, not only Russia but also various other states will welcome.
He will be the first president on earth, to act reasonably on this issue, and will receive the Nobel Peace Prize for that.
This, however, would not be appreciated around the world, in a way, which would have been correct/just [the way it should be], and politicians and journalists and so forth will run [hold/utter] stupid speeches against Barack Obama and will put underneath him (/object/argue/impute), that he would have to earn the honour for himself only in the future.
The achievement, which he has already accomplished with the fact alone, that a dismantling of the anti-missile defense system and of atomic weapons is for the first time a topic of international discussions at states level, will not be acknowledged and understood by [through/because of] the stupidity of those, who - in their egoism/selfishness and presumption/arrogance - are unable to appreciate the effort/achievement of Obama."
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Jonzie
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 11:26 am: |
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A man can do only that which he is born into or what he can create.
Since the U.S. president was neither born into being president, nor can he create a whole new U.S. government at this point, it does not matter who is in office. The one born is not to blame.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 12:19 pm: |
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My apologies again. I can get caught up in what is goin on in our world, and I realize that most of y'all haven't studied it as intensively as I have over the past couple of decades. You may simply be incapable of grasping the whole picture, and thus incapable of believing in (what I see as) our common predicament.
Regarding the the Clintons: I first learned that they weren't who they appeared to be when Slick Willy was governor. I lived in smalltown North Louisiana at the time, and had family and friends in Arkansas. Word trickled down that Slick was as corrupt as Huey P. Long. Well, it turned out he was more than. He involved Arkansas in massive corruption and cocaine smuggling schemes (google Mena), that had long term impacts on the economy of the area, not to mention the effects on the whole country's drug war scam/scheme/thing. Oh yea, I do know what I am talking about here. Let's just mention a few names that you can google for backup - Chip Tatum, Barry Seal et al, Sam Dalton, Gary Webb, Terry Reed, Dan Lasater, and on and on ad nauseum.
Here is a nice little youtube video on the whole that can help catch you up to speed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxaFGsdGxnc
Another place to look for relevant material is the Mad Cow Morning News, which is pretty well documented:
http://www.madcowprod.com/
There is quite abit of material available should you care to follow up on this. It isn't just some conspiracy theory cooked up by Republicans.
Hillary of course was blissfully unaware of all this, apparently, since she was busy with the Rose Law firm.
But in opposition to that, I saw Hillary speak at the University of Arizona when she was running for the Presidential seat. She seemed very sincere, and even concerned about people (pointing out people who needed water). At that speaking event she first started emphasizing environmental concerns, although that doesn't seem to have lasted. Even considering the Arkansas business, pretty thoroughly documented, I was still willing to give her the benefit of doubt, and was rooting for her over Obama (by that time I had already learned of his seedy Chicago roots, although I wasn't yet aware his Kenyan birth). It was a shock to me to see Obama pulling ahead in the primary at the last minute, and to see how obvious was the media bias for him, even knowing how the media is run by Jews. The media bias was so obvious, I wondered why people weren't more upset by it. They certainly snubbed other candidates as well.
As for why did not Hillary pursue the Kenyan birth angle when it was finally discussed (ridiculed...) openly? I believe that by then Hillary was 'convinced' to take her backseat role with the promise of Secretary of State position. The voting system needs to run smoothly in order for everyone to believe in it.
Obama has since been paraded around in the mainstream media as our hero, and he carries the full backing of our Jewish culture-masters. To upset this applecart is to expose alot more.
With the primary behind him, there really wasn't anything Obama/Biden had to worry about except that McCain/Palin would be sooo pathetic that somebody else would have to run in their place. Of course, the rest is history. Since that time Obama has impressed me with his tact and intelligence. He may in fact be the best president we have had since Kennedy - since they have all been so corrupt, this isn't a high standard to pass. I am not Obama bashing, specifically, he is just another in a long line of corrupt politicians.
I don't remember how we got off on this point. But this is my post, so I guess I can write about what I want to write about.
Why the Plejaren seem to have the best interpretation of history - for one reason. The power plays of history, especially the more recent history, are just too consistently intelligent to make any sense of it, without factoring in a consistent subtle influence upon the power-players of mankind, driving us towards collective insanity.
For instance, the development of fractional banking is a brilliant scheme for controlling people's labors. Although it is highly inefficient, other (better) models which have been developed have only been out-competed by military means. Some fairly well weighted conjecture would say that WWII had to come if for no other reason than to remove the Reichsbank's community-based banking system. Now, there's a model which would serve us all very well.
Or take religion for example, who really is gonna believe some of the ridiculous bunk that has developed there? For instance, the greater Talmudic 'religion' is just full of bunk. How much sense does it make to be killing off the original semitic inhabitants of Palestine, all the while proclaiming that the land was promised by an unhonored contract to Eastern Europeans who had never been there before? I apologize for pointing that the people who are doing most of the social manipulation are Jewish - running our banking scheme, running our mainstream media scheme, running Hollywood, heavily influencing our educational system, even heavily influencing our supposed system of self-government. And these people who identify as being Jewish are themselves manipulated through constant fear - fear of rabid antisemitism. Well, no wonder... Anyway, I sure hope that people who self-identify as Jewish cease and desist their incessant machinations soon. Else there will be ever greater insanity and perhaps even war. Of course, that is something they simply cannot do unless and until they cease identifying with Jewishness. That is insane, and not in a funny way.
Were we to follow the textbook story of history, the stuff we would suppose to believe would be crazy; and crazy is what it is. The only way to make sense of it is to view the back-room deals, the uncommon history that the powers that be would like us to schizophrenically ignore. This is the only consistent factor in history. If the Plejarens aren't right about some Giza Intelligences twisting people's societies around, then it has be some other consistent force - nothing else makes sense.
Love is always the way
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Sitkaa
Member
Post Number: 95
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 01:53 pm: |
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Jgarbush, great question, one which I think about too.
I think of the fractional reserve banking system as simply a tool. Presumably it could work if it were allowed too - it is only an accounting scheme for things that would come to pass, rather than of the work the work that people do.
There are better models out there. Even I proposed one, before I pulled it from my website. My model involved another community-based economic/banking scheme, based in part on the models proposed by Irving Fisher. Here is a link to his most relevant work:
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/roehrigw/fisher/
The true power behind most things relevant to us seems to be in Europe. At the highest levels the people involved (such as the Rothschilds) are not concerned with Jewishness - it is only a manipulable tool for them. They seem to have a fairly high spiritual understanding. There seems to be only a few people involved at this level.
The next tier down is Jewish or Freemasonic (or a few other pseudo-spiritual groups) depending upon what is expedient. The people of Jewish extraction have been the most successful, in large part because of their Jewish favoritism, but also because they have been driven to be rabid, through the persistent drumbeat of fear of racial/societal annihilation. Freemasons are less driven by fear, but more driven by half-witted ideals and unquestioned directives. For the most part these groups are simply unaware of how deep the rabbit hole goes. As an example of this, consider the Rosenthal interview:
http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Harold_Rosenthal.html
Beyond that are the more obvious systems that run our world - banking and governmental systems. These are not so corrupt, generally, except for the mouthpieces around the top. It is questionable which group has more influence the banking system or government. The world doesn't seem to be dominated by any single governmental or economic interest yet, nor do I expect it will be for quite some time.
Instead, the biggest problem we all seem to face is overcoming irascible vibes, made all the more difficult by a cultural vibe that is being deliberately reduced.
Love is always the way
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 97
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 02:08 pm: |
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Jgarbush,
I think that she puts herself first, before the party, etc. If there had been no birth certificate she probably would have attacked that early on, maybe even confronted him first privately, etc. |
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