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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 03:17 pm: | 
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Jgarbush,
I think that if you review Obama's credentials and educational background you will understand that he's indeed quite intelligent. You simply don't like or agree with him.
Also, I have seen a video of Obama made before he was president in which he discusses religions and differences in beliefs, etc. He is a very intelligent person who can think, something missing in the majority of our politicians. |
Jgarbush
Member
Post Number: 59
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 11:35 pm: |
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Michael,
You may be right, but for the party a black man would win votes for many years to come. The thing my wife always says though is he's not black, but Arab. The only other thing I could think of is his mother is a US citizen which automatically entitles him to US citizenship no matter what country he's born in. My uncle was born in Germany and has dual citizenship because of that. |
Jgarbush
Member
Post Number: 60
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 11:56 pm: |
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When was this bulletin published. I know that it was in September but is it published what day? |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 312
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 03:48 am: |
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Good day Jgarbush,
The Special Bulletin is the issue of November and the quoted excerpt is from Contact Report 479 of 5th September 2009.
Here are two other FIGU updates on this topic:
Official FIGU statement by Moderator Patric Chenaux, Core Group of 49, FIGU Schweiz (Thread 'Verbrechen der Amerikaner'; post 443: http://forum.figu.org/de/messages/17/4905.html?1233393550 ):
"Wir wissen aus absolut zuverlässiger Quelle, dass Barack Obama ein grundanständiger Mensch ist, der seit vielen Jahren für das Wohl der Menschen arbeitet und dass Menschlichkeit sein Leitmotiv ist, für das er sich gegenwärtig und zukünftig einsetzen wird, sofern er nicht abgeknallt wird, weil er diesbezüglich gegen viele und mächtige Interessengruppen arbeitet. Und obwohl Barack Obama sich der sehr schweren Aufgabe seines Amtes zur aktuellen Zeit und der ständig drohenden Ermordungsgefahr klar bewusst ist, scheut er seine Verantwortung nicht, um etwas Gutes für die Menschen, nicht nur innerhalb der USA, sondern - nach Möglichkeit - auch für die gesamte irdische Menschheit zu bewirken...[...]"
Rough, unofficial and unauthorized translation:
"[...]"We know from absolutely reliable source that Barack Obama is a fundamentally (basically) decent person, who works(has been working) for many years for the well-being of people(Humans) and that humanity is his leitmotiv(motto), for which he dedicates(invests) himself at the present time and will do so in the future, if(provided) he is not killed(shoot down), because he works against many and powerful groups of interests. And although Barack Obama is clearly aware of the very heavy task of his office in the current time and the constantly threatening danger of murder(being murdered), he does not shrink from his responsibility, in order to do(to accomplish) something good for Humans, not only within the USA, but - if possible - also for the entire terrestrial mankind...[...]"
Mr. Eduard Albert Meier, 'Billy' in the thread 'Your Questions to Billy Meier Answered' of September 2009 ( http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/10471.html?1254041389 ):
"[Question]Karrol:
Dear Billy
I hope you are feeling better. I am reading the goblet of truth and I have to thank for your explanation in regard to human beings not being born coded for evil deeds. This is something that I have pondered and sought the answer to for many years.
When it comes to our evolution I am beginning to understand why the human beings on our planet reject the truth and want fantasy. Evolution is hard work and takes much self responsibility. In the question I asked you last month about reincarnation I was really hoping you would tell me that I will not have to face the same pain and hardship that I have had to overcome in this life time. The realization that I may have an even harder life next time around is something I will have to learn to accept.
Now for my question: Is the new administration in the US really any better than the one they just replaced? From what I have read. I don't see the US moving any farther away from a WWW III.
Salome"
[Answer through Christian Frehner]"Billy did not examine or ask about the administration, but he says it is sure that President Obama is the best man the U.S. ever had as a president."
Salome. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 99
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 02:39 pm: |
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Jgarbush,
That point was made, again by a conservative, anti-Obama radio host, who said that there's no doubt that he's a citizen also on that basis. |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 299
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 06:07 pm: |
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In regard to the current conversation , President Obama's clarity and integrity is obvious .
The childish tirades that are waged against him in the press before and after his election reflect a tired , nasty and cheap racism that is not cleverly disguised . To chase him down about Jewish ancestry has no basis for anything . Some of my ancestors were Scots , so does that mean I'm going to what .... knock someone's door down with a tree trunk ? |
Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 06:19 pm: |
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Hi All
Who would the American public and the public of the whole world rather have as US President. Obama who gets off his backside and goes and talks to other world leaders face to face to discuss problems.
Or
Some one like Bush who sat on his backside drinking and planning wars against other world leaders. A man not interested in solving problem but creating new ones.
I personally disagree with Obama on his religious views. His economic policies I know nothing much about. But at least Obama is not creating unrest and tensions towards other countries because other countries do not agree with with him.
As for the Alex Jones film "The Obama Deception ". The only Deception here is made by Alex Jones who in my mind is more nuts then a fruit and nut Christmas Cake.
Just my thoughts, Back to FIGU related topics for me.
Thanks
My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc
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Sitkaa
Member
Post Number: 98
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 06:56 am: |
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I appreciate the continued conversation regarding Obama. Were it to have stopped a few days ago, nothing would have been resolved, but now I see more questions that I will have to answer for myself.
Mark - this isn't about racism. For me, nor is it about prejudicial feelings against people of a certain vibe. It is about systematized corruption in a free and open republic. Not only does race have nothing to do with it, Jewishness is not even a single race of (mostly Caucasian) people. I brought Obama's Jewishness up as an explanation for his predilection towards (the political movement of) Zionism.
Consider Mearsheimer and Walt's much maligned work:
http://us.macmillan.com/theisraellobbyandusforeignpolicy
Love is always the way
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Jgarbush
Member
Post Number: 61
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 09:07 am: |
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Phoenix,
Thank you for the information. My task was to see if I could find any buzz about Obama getting the Peace Prize during or before the time Billy wrote that bulletin. This is the most recent thing I can put to the test to verify his contacts and teachings are true. I wasn't able to find anything, but if anyone else has information please pass it on. |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 39
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 09:54 am: |
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Obama orders 34,000 additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan. |
Tam2105
Member
Post Number: 28
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 10:57 am: |
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I would have to agree that Obama has from Day 1 stepped up and gone to work for his country. Unfortunately, I feel that his background and race will be fodder for the media for far too long before his true efforts are realized and acknowledged by the mainstream. I love it that we can turn on the TV and see our President speaking so often to the people, something that obviously was avoided by the Bush people. BTW did anyone catch the evening of Latina music on the White House lawn recently that the President and his family attended? It was awesome! |
Tobi
Member
Post Number: 12
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 12:52 pm: |
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Hi Stephen
My understandig is that in the latest figu sonderbulletin,Obama is called a man of peace because he did not agree with building a rocketchield in Europa (East Eropa) So Obama really did his akt for peace.
Happy news............
Salome Tobi |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 100
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 02:27 pm: |
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I wonder though, if the prophecies should be fulfilled with Russia invading parts of Eastern Europe, etc., will there be some perception that it was because the shield was not in place? Of course maybe it will contribute to the prophecies not being fulfilled...? |
Joe
Member
Post Number: 78
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 03:55 am: |
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http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/775412-i-would-like-twins-says-mother-of-13
Another reason why there should be some kind of population control. |
Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 100
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 07:41 am: |
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Michael,
It can also be the case that Russia would have had added reason for attacking eastern Europe the way as it is described in the prophecy if the missile shield was stationed there.
Salome. |
Earthling
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Post Number: 321
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 07:50 am: |
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Joe ... hopefully insane & selfish people like that will force authorities into enacting and enforcing birth control laws & regulations.
Its long overdue. |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 323
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 03:21 pm: |
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not to prolong this Obama debate ... but, fwiw this article mentions all points that Billy cites in the latest round of Billy Q&A
http://www.slate.com/id/2236708/
"Obama's Brilliant First Year" ... By January, he will have accomplished more than any first-year president since Franklin Roosevelt. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1546
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 03:17 am: |
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Hi Phenix.....
Excellent summery/translation!
Have been following what you/Ptaah mentioned, reading and on the television,
to some disgust of some NATO/EU countries/allies, which were of course, pure
Pro Mr.Bush, and very Warmongering...at the time; and still seem to be. Very -
Bitter Pill -, for them to swallow! So Be It!!
Barack, is indeed...LESS - lipservice(; as Billy also expresses) -...than all
his predecessors! He is a man of ACTION...and Results.
"May Barack Obama....Fulfill...his Mission!!!"
Edward. |
Edward
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Post Number: 1547
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 03:31 am: |
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Hi Michael....
I totally agree with, on that!
It would indeed, generate much more Positive Out-come and - TRUST-, than it
being fulfilled.
Obama and Medvedev...are also in the same age..category, which would also put
them both in a very Positive - Frequency Level -, if you will. People today,
are getting Tired of the OLD WAYS...and want New Ideas and Out-comes. The
mass, is very tired of all that Illogical bickering, from previous (so-called)
leaderships.
Barack, taking that Positive step...concerning the Shield, shows very much
Goodness and Positivity, which does radiate good fortune not only to Russia,
but also China(, and the rest of the world)!
Barack Obama is indeed: A (HUGE) Breath Of Fresh Air.....
Edward. |
Mgilbo1
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Post Number: 101
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 08:17 am: |
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Scientists Grow Pork In Lab
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6936352.ece
Great article.
Mark Gilbo
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Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 41
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 09:42 am: |
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Hi Edward, in response to Nato countries who align themselves with Bush. As part of NATO we are obligated to help our best friend and neighbour - that means you. You may think our conservative government is more in line with Bush because they are conservative, but that is simply not true. Keep in mind that our conservative government is far more left leaning than even your own liberals. We have never invaded any country or started any war. But we were there to help those that did. I've often wondered why we didn't help you invade Iraq. Could it be that we had different intelligence on the matter?
Do you think maybe Billy said he was the best because he was being compared to all your previous corrupt presidents? Anyone would look good compared to them. But of course actions speak louder than words. 34,000 additional troops is a lot of action. |
Sitkaa
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 06:47 pm: |
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Well, I watched Obama at the graduating class of West Point tonight (on television). Overall, I came away impressed.
Obama presented a well-thought out approach to our Afghanistan (and just as importantly, if not more so, Pakistan) incursion. I do not think his agreement to send more military men to Afghanistan will address the problem in the best way possible, but given the options that he has undoubtedly been presented, that may the best one. (What I would prefer to see would be a more effective Federal (U.S.) program of community building, but of course this would have to occur in tandem with rooting out fundamentalist extremism.)
Obama glossed over the Iraq war. Although that was tactful, the sooner he addresses that (and with him, the rest of the United States), the less our collective Muslim blowback will be. We cannot simply withdraw from Iraq, gloss over the atrocities of an unprovoked war, and expect it to simply go away. Like it or not, we are responsible for what we did there and we should act like it.
Obama also did not mention what he undoubtedly knows by now, as do more than half the American people according to the last poll I saw, that the WTC bombing (of 09-11-2001) was carried out at the very least with the complicity of elements of the U.S. government. Instead he referred to 911 as a means to rouse patriotism, wrap himself in the flag, and justify our invading Afghanistan in the first place.
Obama's character presentation:
1. he seemed to stay as close to the truth as he thought he could.
2. both his body language and his language seemed to be congruent with his stated intentions.
3. he seemed to be both developing and showing his backbone
Overall, he has a ways to go, but he is already showing signs of integrity in the midst of a den of thieves. He is not doing what is best for the Zionists, nor the Muslims, nor even the Americans. But I am not sure he could do much more at this point without being killed. (And about that - should Biden come to power, I don't think he would exhibit either the integrity or the backbone that Obama has.)
After our run of recent presidents, certainly from Reagan on, Obama is a breath of fresh air. But I believe he could (and should) do more to straighten our country out and get us on the golden path of humanity's upliftment once more. ASAP, please.
Love is always the way
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Victor
Member
Post Number: 10
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 09:28 pm: |
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allo Edward, Barack Obama is indeed: A (HUGE) Breath Of Fresh Air. |
