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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 182
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 05:41 pm: | 
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Sitkaa,
I think your opinion that it is taking it too far to kill degenerate mass-murderers is more the result of social mind-control and thus human culture than the fruit of wisdom of Creation's laws and bids.
The law of Nature is clearly that degenerate and murderous life be annihilated. That is, be it not imprisoned and kept away from other life that it may harm, it must be killed and done away with at once, i.e. executed on the spot.
You should read Billy's 'novel' (autobiography) about the Phantom.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 183
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 05:42 pm: |
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Sitkaa,
One must also wonder just how realistic a person thinks who genuinely thinks it 'petty and destructive' to kill men who hunt little girls with crossbows for 'fun'.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 184
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 05:47 pm: |
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Sitkaa,
Also, you may like to know that, as should be obvious, all creation requires destruction of some kind. Every giving-follow, every sendance of consequences, every execution of any work entails that something else be destroyed and reconstituted. Also, in order to survive, all life surely must not tolerate the presence of parasites, disease, criminals, etc. All such things are dispensed of by the immune-system, so it is a loath astonisher that foolish humans do not build up society's immune-system correctly.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 202
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 05:47 pm: |
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Matthew_justin_deagle
What are you dribbling on about in your post above? (Post Number: 180)
I quote from you ...
"The solution to all the world's dictatorships, including Western ones like the USA, is to send international fighters for peace into all these lands with lightning swiftness and unmatchable superiority of arms and skill, and kill by slaughter or assassination every single one of the responsible politicians and crime-lords."
Now would this make the peace-fighting troops the same as the responsible politicians and crime-lords?
Also in the text http://theyfly.com/Peace-Fighting%20Troops.htm
I quote ....
"The peace-fighting troops are furthermore only able and permitted to obtain and use these weapons, if necessary defence should require it. The peace-fighting troops guarantee that the would-be dictators, warmongers, criminals, gangsters and enemies against life, limb, possessions and goods will be rooted out with time by humanly justifiable but rigorous measures, through which peace and security for all life will be established worldwide and will be lasting. A peace-fighting troop has absolutely nothing to do with a renewed state of war or with a new power group on Earth but merely performs the function of protection and of the logical use of force."
No mention of mass slaughter in Billy's text
Also for Billy's text ....
I quote .....
"In general, a fully false opinion prevails with regard to a multinational peace-fighting troop. The words ‹peace› and ‹fighting› united in one expression annoy a lot of people, and they think of it as an army, like the one we know today, which spreads misery, hardship, fear and terror. But that is not the case at all, since the troop members are very well trained specialists with regard to such things as defence, peace-making, peace-keeping and safeguarding survival on the one hand and with regard to abiding by the natural laws and being humane on the other."
Clearly here is mention that the peace-fighting troops are very well trained specialists with regard to such things as defence, peace-making, peace-keeping and safeguarding survival on the one hand and with regard to abiding by the natural laws and being humane on the other.
So therefore mass slaughtering goes against the natural laws and the recommendations of Creation. "You shall not kill in depravity". Clearly also from Billy's text is says the World Peace and Multinational Peace-Fighting Troops shall be humane. So mass slaughtering does not fit under the category of being humane.
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You also wrote....
I quote "I say, if Obama aims to impress us, he begin to annihilate the evil ones by the hundreds, without warning and several steps ahead of any possible escape. This should be done remorselessly and mercilessly, since such life has no right to live anyhow."
How stupid would this be. How illogical is this. Do you want to start World War 3?
Geez Matthew I hate to think what is truly going through you mind. I would say you need to study the Spiritual Teachings and the "World Peace and Multinational Peace-Fighting Troops" article on theyfly.com some more.
If Obama took your advice here and started to attack other countries leaders then the other countries would for sure fight back. Say good bye to the USA.
My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc
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Kingman
Member
Post Number: 726
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 05:53 pm: |
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Moo!
As I usually install in most of my posts, IMO, I'll continue to do it this way. Moo!
"i done research and that is what i draw!"
Moo! Exactly! You done research. I 'done' it too! Moo! Where you go is where you go, same here. Moo!
You'll notice I agree with you that I'm all bull, but just in parts of this post. Moo!
My use of mandate was correct.
Mandate. 2) the authority to carry out a policy or course of action, regarded as given by the electorate to a candidate or party that is victorious in an election.
How's that for research.
Arguing with you is like beating my head against the wall. Moo!
Whatever I do, you'll be waiting to reject it with your Prison Planet links and such. A lovely fear-mongering site for sure. Boo!
As far as something like the health bill, Obama had nothing to do with writing it, it hasn't been finalized, and he has yet to even read it let alone sign it. See, I didn't even need a link to prove this fact, amazing huh!
It's a new year coming up, maybe finding some new bookmarks for your sources would be a good resolution to pledge, I'm just saying.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Earthling
Member
Post Number: 344
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 06:04 pm: |
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Matthew, imo it's a good thing you aren't running the show ... because your solution sounds like the fuse for the 3rd World Fire, aka WW3. |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 727
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 09:11 pm: |
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Matthew,
While extreme actions can have quick desired changes, they also can just as easily open a dangerous void that fills in with unknowns and opportunists. Murdering someone that isn't about to kill you is, well, it's murder. Two wrongs are always wrong. Terrorist activities are extreme crimes against mankind, but the evidence for a wrong doing needs to be in place before any action is entered into.
Your idea of the swift killing of politicians and crime-lords is without justice and against basic creational laws. Sure it sounds macho, but really now, is that anyway to react. I think the action of removing corporate influence out of politics is a major element to begin correcting our worlds ills. Murder is not an answer.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1902
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 01:49 am: |
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Matthew,
It is hard to figure you out….do you seriously believe the ideas which you expound upon? I have to say, either you look at this forum as a joke and intentionally make outlandish remarks just to see what kind of responses you receive, or you believe on some level that your comments are justified and the rest of us fallen angels just can’t seem to get it right? Honestly, you have been doing this for years, and what has it gotten you? Perhaps you are serving some sort of purpose by intentionally mixing and matching concepts and ideas, but in the end again what have you achieved? I don’t enjoy having to make these type of comments, but you seem to be begging or asking for attention in a really strange and or perverse way.
Scott |
Hector
Member
Post Number: 545
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 03:38 am: |
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Hi Matthew it seems like you feel comfortable with the rather inhumane extermination methods carried out by some secret services like Mossad, CIA or former KGB.... Of course if you kill/eliminate certain "unpleasant" people such as terrorists and mass murderers, as a politician or as head of the military you get immediate results. You put practicity and pragmatism before Creation's Laws and Commandments, something which is absolutely out of place in FIGU Geisteslehre discussions. We honor and respect the Creation and its multiple manifestations, we do not seek to fix the ills of society with short-lived immediate results .
We Figu members do not pursue role models like politicians, military forces, ruling class. We pursue the spiritual leader role model. The spiritual leader role model implies to save human, animal, floral, bacterial life at all costs. Terrorists and mass murderers must be kept outside of society because they have degenerated into life-destructing creatures and now behave as wild beasts out of control. Get them out of their ruling positions and send them to exile/banish them to some place where they cannot inflict any damage to those who respect all kind of life and Creational Law.
You also seem contaminated with the late concept "preventive war" invented by those you'd like to eradicate (Bush, Cheney, Rove and the like...) Concepts like "preventive war" or "preventive murder" are an absolute aberration from a Geisteslehre (spirit teachings) point of view.
Remember Matthew. No human being is ever entitled to prematurely finish other human being's lives. Such honor only belongs to the creation. Well, there's only one case where you are entitled to finish other human being's lives....in the case of brain death or irreversible coma....in such cases evolution of the spirit is not granted, it is hindered. Can you see the difference? |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1903
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 07:36 am: |
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Hi Hector,
It is very timely that you bring up the idea concerning brain death or irreversible coma. I have a friend who collapsed two days ago from a brain aneurysm. It appears at this point there is massive brain damage, and the immediate family must be faced with the decision whether to terminate life support. As you mentioned, it appears the spirit may not have the means to evolve any further and therefore it is justified in allowing the life of the body to cease.
Regards
Scott |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 53
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 07:54 am: |
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All deception in the course of life is indeed nothing else but a lie reduced to practice, and falsehood passing from words into things.
Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live.
I was young and foolish then; now I am old and foolisher.
~~~ Mark Twain ~~~
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 186
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 11:03 am: |
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Hector and Scott,
It seems that neither of you really understands the laws of Nature.
Billy himself killed countless criminals. In many cases, there is no possibility that these fools be imprisoned, and, since they are still a threat to society, they must be slain.
I will translate some of 'das Phantom' for you, to set you aright about this matter.
As you both should know, it is -impossible- to have the worst of criminals put behind bars, because they have too much money and power, thus lawyers, etc.
A lesson we can learn from such failures as Dyson and Alex Jones is that shouting and making noise about criminals does not take them out of power. Killing them would.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 187
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 11:36 am: |
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You would have to be very stupid and foolish to think that Billy would openly tell you to go vigilante and kill your local pimps and drug-dealers, etc. Why do you think he wrote 'das Phantom' in novel form? Because it would otherwise be a confession to illegal activities. He is just clever, and not self-destructive.
Das Phantom
page 1
'Er war ein einsamer Wolf, hart und erbarmungslos zu sich selbst - in jeder Beziehung. Doch ebenso hart und erbarmungslos war er gegen das viehische Verbrechertum, das da gekennzeichnet ist mit Mördern, Sklavenschindern und Mädchenhändlern oder dergleichen Gesindel.'
'He was a lone wolf, hard and pitiless to himself - in every respect. Though just as hard and pitiless was he against bestial criminality, that takes its badge in murders, slave-keepers and girl-handlers or the like riffraff.'
page 5
'Er war ein einsamer und gnadenloser Wolf geworden, mit der Saat der Vernichtung im Herzen wider alles mörderische Leben, das die Verbrecherwelt hervorbrachte.
He had become a lone and merciless wolf, with the seeds of annihilation in his heart against all the murderous life that the world of criminals brought forth.
Doch für gutes Leben warf er bedenkenlos sein eigenes Dasein in die Bresche, niemals daran denkend, dass auch er einmal getötet werden könnte.
Though for a good life he threw his own presence/existence into the ring, never thinking that he too might become killed.
Daran dachte er nie, denn er sah nur die Not und das Elend der Unterdrückten, die von Mördern und Sklavenschindern skrupellos ausgebeutet und gemordet wurden.
He never thought about it, because he just saw the need and the misery of the suppressed, who were unscrupulously exploited and murdered by murderers and slave-keepers.
Und genau diese mörderischen Kreaturen waren es, die er bedenkenlos in Notwehr vernichtete und sie dem Satan in den aufbrüllenden Rachen schleuderte.
And it was precisely these murderous creatures that he thoughtlessly annihilated in need-defence, and hurled them to Satan in up-roaring revenges.
Doch darüber machte er sich keine Gedanken, denn es war das urewige Gesetz, der Wille und die Bestimmung der Natur, dass böse ausgeartetes Mordleben ausradiert und vernichtet werden musste, bedenkenlos und gnadenllos.
But over that he made himself no thoughts, because it was the primal-aeternal law, the will and the determination of Nature, that maliciously degenerate murder-life needed to be eradicated and annihilated, thoughtlessls and mercilessly.
Dies jedoch nur in direkter Notwehr, niemals jedoch durch eine verfügte Todesstrafe, wenn eine mordverbrecherische Kreatur bereits in sicherem Gewahrsam der Justiz war.
This, however, just in direct need-defence, never, however, through an enjoined/injuncted death-penalty, if a murder-criminal creature was already in the secure custody of justice.'
Perhaps you all should rethink your false-humanist and cowardly, petty-couraged, foolish approach to peace.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Gaiawingz
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Post Number: 82
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 11:42 am: |
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Dear Forum members;
Evidently, none of you have read 'Das Phantom'. You should. I expect Matthew will work up a translation of some of it for you, but the whole book (and the two sequels) are well worth time and consideration.
Peace;
- Gaia |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 188
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 11:49 am: |
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Hector,
You sound like a Christian with your last post to me. You are still clearly very captive of popular religious beliefs, despite not consciously believing in them.
The CIA, Mossad, KGB, etc, slaughtered INNOCENT citizens and political opponents for no reason but that they disagreed with or threatened to weaken their might-greed-fuelled EVIL EMPIRES. They also interfered with foreign countries, in the case of CIA and Mossad they still do, in such wise that the most fanatical and enslaving parties often took control, whether communist or fascist. Many countries, like Vietnam and Chile, suffered under DICTATORSHIPS because of their unrightful murder and interference. That has NOTHING to do with killing undignible criminals who themselves commit precisely those kinds of crimes. The only similarity is the merciless act of killing, but the effects are OPPOSITE for the citizens of those countries in which the criminals are killed.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Darren
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Post Number: 113
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 01:30 pm: |
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"Billy himself killed countless criminals."
I don't know where i heard/read this but didn't MH say in a video/radio show recently that Billy told him he never killed anyone while he was the phantom? |
Thomas
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Post Number: 784
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 01:35 pm: |
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That book is a fiction novel
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Thomas
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Post Number: 785
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 01:42 pm: |
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BEAM clearly stated himself that he never killed anyone ever
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 189
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 01:44 pm: |
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...and hurled them to Satan into the up-roaring crack of doom.
For some reason my first, wrong post was posted, but the second was deleted.
Matthew, if you place a statement at the top of a post asking to keep one and delete another, it helps to distinguish what to do when a post looks almost identical to another.
Scott
(Message edited by scott on December 31, 2009) |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 190
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 02:04 pm: |
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Also, war is very sharply to distinguish from fighting. War means destroying civilian buildings such as factories, hospitals, apartment-complexes, houses, the indiscriminate slaughtering of civilians and enemy-combatants alike, the plundering of enemy-resources, the invasion and conquest of territories, etc. That has nothing whatsoever to do with killing rotten criminal scum who, if let to live, will only start more wars and continue to horrendously abuse other humans in all imaginable manners.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 72
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 02:46 pm: |
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Regarding the Red Meteor:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Red_Meteor
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/russia_apophis_mission/ |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 03:00 pm: |
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That is what I recall Billy telling me. He said he only shot in self-defense and, in our film, he specifically states that using weapons, that killing someone, is the LAST option and only when one's life or the life of another is threatened, something that Matthew's obviously missed here. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 125
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 03:11 pm: |
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Also, Matthew, there's just too much fear radiating from your position. Something is out of balance here. |
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