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Sitkaa
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Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Will it all come out in the wash?

Or it will it be meaningless when the time comes?

Universal laws apply here - cause and effect mirroring and revurburating across time.

Whatever it is, whatever this great big pattern, love is the way. Love is always the way to a greater sense of life.
Love is always the way
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Gib_niner
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Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Justsayno,

Thats interesting about the Grace technologies,

"Who knows what those sky lasers are capable of? "

Yeah - makes one wonder about the famous streak of light 'star wars' nasa footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5RDN308Dn0
(shame on you 'buzz' aldrin)

also - if its the case that humans are to be bio-chipped in the future - possibly incorporating tracking devices and so therefore used in tandem with the satellite laser high tec. from space (and if its the case that the precision of this laser tech is advanced enought to create the complex crop cirles) - US shadow gov. could then be in a position theoretically to 'take out' certain individuals of their choosing....ie those rebellious ones not stepping into line with the overall credos of said gov - wow, what a way to go - being taken out by a deadly laser burst from outer space - akin to being struck by lighting i suppose, ouch...gotta hurt.

also ramirez - yeah at first me myself was thinking the exact same about the image of the disk on mercury, thought it was probably graphics and such like - but looking at it again - hmmmm is not so bad really - impact site and all the way the ground seems actually to be crumpled up even - so on that front looks to be maybe intriguing, also justsayno - you were wondering about why its not melted - well think i can remember reading one time in my charles berlitz book on roswell - that the found material of the crashed disk itself, in spite of being very flexible/bendable - seemed to be incredibly durable indeed - virtually impossible to inflict any damage to it, could not be burned etc. totally indestructible - hmmmm guess these ETs know what they are at on the engineering side of things - also for the skeptics out there - crashing disk material at Roswell and indeed at other places took the form of the very 'foil' like. (skeptics are often very quick to scream 'foil' and 'tin-foil' and such like)

by the way - just on the current theme of ufo footage - noticed this new upload on the classic Mariana Great Falls footage (and guess not really a 'current earth event' - though maybe the upload!) - nice to get some old school film footage - as opposed to all the video nowadays
- this footage is actually - very strong - comparable to billy's perhaps ( - 290 continuous frames of 16mm film)
also was reading in one of my ufo books that the movie was submitted to the US Air force for analysis and that upon being returned Marianna claimed that some thirty frames at the beginning had been removed and that it was in those frames that the oval shape of the ufo could be seen
- and ok even though ultimately its just streaking white dots, apparently this case (or sighting at least) actually ranks as one the 'best' of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogQUnT_ROBQ
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Ramirez
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bianca,

"Ramirez, Remember Australia had a vocal opponent to Pine Gap? look where he is now? Sitting in parliament as Environment minister, what an irony and sad time for this oppressed people.The guy who lost all his consciousness."

Surely I must agree our environment minister would more effectively serve his country by going back to fronting a band.
That's what happens in politics, after becoming elected the back room boys from bankers anonymous start pulling a few strings, slap a script in front the hapless newcomers face and like good parrots pollies are soon squawking on queue from that point on.
You might remember the "peoples left" was hardly shy about it's ideas of "public - private partnerships" ...... selling electricity and water utilities to private enterprise till public outrage dampened their enthusiasm.

Justsayno,

On your premise big daddy sect of mary mumbo is looking forward to an ET extravaganza official or unofficial .... I'd venture a definite no and think they are simply hedging their bets just in case.
South America is a great place to display the goodies because footage actually does end up on the 6pm news, there are no air forces able to interfere with craft demonstrations and people are basically less brainwashed, paranoid, gullible and media not controlled to the extent of USA, Britain or Europe. It's more fertile ground.

Errr uncloaked, how about defrocked :-)
Cheers.
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jonah/see-jesus-stare-at-the-four-black-dots-in-the-cen-9fx-b

I saw John Bonham , the drummer of Led Zeppelin .
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Techieatwork
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha..

I saw john lennon

"all we need is love"

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Salome
Carlos
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Ramirez
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

14 objects. Santiago Chile September 2009.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3s9cBPMvlI

Please note: At the start they appear in a line then split into 4 formations before leaving.
Cheers.
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Techieatwork
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Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi all.
this is a very well achieved representation of how the universe would be seen if we were traveling from here to it's edge, and back.

It's very well done:

http://www.popsci.com.au/science/article/2009-12/new-simulation-renders-entire-known-universe

--
Salome
Carlos
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Ramirez
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Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Christmas has arrived so where in the world has El Presidente Obama's 2 hour media special vanished ?

Not that he or his government openly advertised or promised anything but there were speculations he might announce the discovery of ruins on the moon.
Cheers.
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Bianca
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Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2009 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It can a lot of fun and I know we are all still fascinated by aliens and so on... but have a look at this clip...its interesting....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgya8GA0wpU&feature=related
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Edward
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Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All....

For those not yet acquainted:

UK Court Issued Arrest Warrant For Livni, The Siasat Daily 2009-12-16

London, December 16: A British court issued an arrest warrant for former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni on war crimes charges but withdrew it on finding she had canceled a planned trip to Britain, a British newspaper reported. Westminster magistrates court issued the warrant...


Pity, Politics has taken a pervert turn, in wanting to allow Political War Criminals: get away with it!

"Buddy Politics" seems to be more important...than: Justice!!

See: http://article.wn.com/view/2009/12/16/UK_Court_Issued_Arrest_Warrant_For_Livni/?template=icelandnews%2Ftopstories.txt


Edward.
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Edward
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Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ramirez....

Concerning your: there were speculations he might announce the discovery of
ruins on the moon.


Obama, taking over where JFK left off!?

Sounds great! Would be a positive move...for all mankind of Earth!


Great to also know, that Obama received the Noble Prize!! Well deserved!

Christian was right, when he listed the positive deeds Obama produced!! And
that WE ALL...should be Content!!
[Thank YOU...Christian!!]

"May Barack Obama....Fulfill his Mission...!!"


Edward.
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Kingman
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Posted on Sunday, December 27, 2009 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Syn,

I realize your source of information about Obama is not the same as mine, so I will not beat you over the head with that. Let's look at some of what you posted in the "Questions to Billy...." section.
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"Sending more troops. If he is trying to keep peace wouldn't it be
advisable to NOT send more troops to an area that is already
destabilized.."

***If your not aware, you answer the question with your last word, "destabilized". Leaving in that type of situation is foolish if the idea is to fix it after the US broke it. Also logic says if a country with nuclear weapons(Pakistan) is heading towards serious upheaval by radical elements, leaving the area would/could be tragic, just ponder nukes in the hands of someone who is ready to use it. An actual deadline has also been enacted into this troop increase. Remember, Obama campaigned on focusing our war efforts towards Afghanistan, an we voted him in, a true mandate.

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"He promised to close Guantanamo bay when he enters office. he has yet
to do that and keeps pushing back the deadline to close it."

***His ending of torture is part of the ending of Guantanamo, as well as the beginning of actual legal proceedings against some who have been held there. The still powerful forces trying to stop the ending of this gulag are the ones who used it to cover their crimes in the illegal wars they ran. Obama is also arranging for the moving of those being held there to a facility on the mainland that will offer more opportunities for these prisoners to regain some of their rights.

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"National Healthcare. The US Government couldn't even manage Medicare and Medicaid. how in the world can they run universal healthcare. Not to mention they don't even have anymore money."

***These claims are not correct. While not perfect, the care made available is very efficient, running with only 2% of costs for administration, compared to private care at nearly 30%. People are not denied care, or removed because of pre-conditions. Satisfaction is in the 90+ percent. Fraud is a problem, but not so that it is crippling the system. The pool of people in the program still pay premiums to cover the costs for the most part, it's not a completely free system. The Veterans Health Care System is also well run, and is completely run by the gov.(doctors are from the gov.). The GOA reports that the new programs will actually save some 130 Billion the first 10 years and over a trillion the second 10 years.

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"The promise to not raise taxes. He has already raised taxes on middle class."

***This is also false. Many different tax breaks were signed into the stimulus package that directly helped the middle class.

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"And a few other obvious ones. He broke many other promises, so his credibility is sinking faster then titanic."

***I would say it's more your credibility that is passing up the Titanic.

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"...the laws they pass does not even benefit the people."

***Describe some please.

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"Obama in my view seems to be bankrupting the country faster then what bush did."

***Seriously, you think Obama caused all this? Use some logic and see the whole picture, for once.

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"his voting record is against the constitution specifically 2nd amendment which states that the american people has the right to bear arms."

***Your claims such as this have nothing to do with reality, whatsoever. Posting your accusations as being true won't work here. I'm not an apologist for Obama, but I will defend the man against your claims which have no real basis.

You've once again allowed some not very well researched statements to cloud your opportunity to involve some real logical reasoning into your mistaken view of reality.

You remain completely non-credible at this point.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Redbeard
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Posted on Sunday, December 27, 2009 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you live in the USA and you don't know who to give your land to when you die, consider the American Indians.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34602971/ns/us_news-life/
Peace, Matt
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Syn
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Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"***If your not aware, you answer the question with your last word, "destabilized". Leaving in that type of situation is foolish if the idea is to fix it after the US broke it. Also logic says if a country with nuclear weapons(Pakistan) is heading towards serious upheaval by radical elements, leaving the area would/could be tragic, just ponder nukes in the hands of someone who is ready to use it. An actual deadline has also been enacted into this troop increase. Remember, Obama campaigned on focusing our war efforts towards Afghanistan, an we voted him in, a true mandate."

you used mandate wrong. a mandate is when the masters(the people) orders an officer(president) to fulfill the duties prescribed to them designated by a document. You honestly believe pakistan will dare to launch a nuke to anyone. china is right by them and china can wipe them off the face of the earth. staying in while a country is destabilized does not help as it breaks even more. obama needs to just leave the country and let the countries deal with their own affairs rather then having a country spoonfeed THEIR democracy. The reason why they have to send more troops is not to increase the troop count. its to keep up the troop presence because of all the people leaving due to low morale. Another note is pakistans or irans or whatever their technology of nukes is far outdated and thus can be intercepted EASILY by the us/china/russia/korea/japan just to name a few. so pakistan is NO threat.

"***His ending of torture is part of the ending of Guantanamo, as well as the beginning of actual legal proceedings against some who have been held there. The still powerful forces trying to stop the ending of this gulag are the ones who used it to cover their crimes in the illegal wars they ran. Obama is also arranging for the moving of those being held there to a facility on the mainland that will offer more opportunities for these prisoners to regain some of their rights."

while i know the prisoners did nothing with 911, obama is far from ending torture. Obama signed several executive orders that effectively ban us torture. but of course it doesn't stop the us from hiring foreign agents to do the torturing for them. which has been happening. So obamas efforts to stop torturing has been pretty much a failure.

"***These claims are not correct. While not perfect, the care made available is very efficient, running with only 2% of costs for administration, compared to private care at nearly 30%. People are not denied care, or removed because of pre-conditions. Satisfaction is in the 90+ percent. Fraud is a problem, but not so that it is crippling the system. The pool of people in the program still pay premiums to cover the costs for the most part, it's not a completely free system. The Veterans Health Care System is also well run, and is completely run by the gov.(doctors are from the gov.). The GOA reports that the new programs will actually save some 130 Billion the first 10 years and over a trillion the second 10 years."

Please. Medicare and Medicaid said it themself there broke. give it a few years and there done. not only that but there not managed properly there almost as bad as socialist medicine. what these sectors have to do in order to get funding is to access the trust accounts that is wedges with your SSN. since the SSN was devalued due to the bailouts and the dollar tanking the SSN trust accounts is suddenly not worth as much. so therefor they will receive less value and hence be able to give out less services, which in my view is completely stupid.

"***This is also false. Many different tax breaks were signed into the stimulus package that directly helped the middle class."

Buddy, the healthcare bill IS a tax increase. that passed.

read this article. puts it out in plain english.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/health-care-bill-is-a-huge-tax-heist.html

Why don't you look into the current energy bill. a tax increase of 6.5% is proposed in that bill somewhere. No tax increases for the middle class my ass.

""...the laws they pass does not even benefit the people."

***Describe some please."

lets make this short. name one that DOES benefit the people.

"***Seriously, you think Obama caused all this? Use some logic and see the whole picture, for once."

when did i say obama caused this. i know as a dead give in that bush caused this. but what is obama doing to fix this. certainly not the continuous bailouts is not doing a good job and worsening the situation.

"***Your claims such as this have nothing to do with reality, whatsoever. Posting your accusations as being true won't work here. I'm not an apologist for Obama, but I will defend the man against your claims which have no real basis."

nothing to do with reality. try saying that to the American people at times like this. have you even bothered to look at his past voting record. i highly suggest you check his past voting. check this link it'll display most of all the b,ills went through while he was in senate.

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490

"You've once again allowed some not very well researched statements to cloud your opportunity to involve some real logical reasoning into your mistaken view of reality.

You remain completely non-credible at this point."

buddy, where is your research. where is your proof to back up your claims. after all there only claims and does not mean proof. you can claim all you want but without proof there all hollow.

you sir have no credibility at this time. come back with some referances or links to back up your case solid.

don't get me wrong, obama is much better then mccain. that guy was a mess. but for billy to say that obama is the BEST POSSIBLE candidate for the us president. i find it very difficult to believe in that, and i'm more then aware of his track record in knowing these things. im just seeking clarification.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority

-Gerald Massey
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Hector
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Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The average american voter/citizen is extremely polarized in two large groups, democrats & republicans, liberals and conservatives, interventionists and non-interventionists...

For Obama, it's quite difficult, say almost impossible, to please both sides. But he is doing the best he can to please everybody, he is not being "partisan", conceding everything to his democratic voters and vetoing everything the republican side brings on the table.

Obama has conceded Afganistan withdrawal to the republicans. Guantanamo will be closed, but not so fast. Another concession. Raising taxes? An obvious move, since the world economy is not in good shape...he also "inherited" a tremendous debt from the Bush administration etc etc...

The man has been only 12 months in office. Consciousness changes (in the population/voters) need time. We can't judge the man summarily now. He has made a lot of decisions trying to please both republicans and democrats. This is the best way to govern, making politics for both sides of the political spectrum and not just for your own side. Mr Obama will carry out his electoral promises. "Slow but steady". That's why Billy says if Obama gets two terms, it`ll be great for the country. Each day Obama stays in office is a day of slow political and economic progress. Each day Obama stays in office, he's nullifying and neutralizing previous administrations toxic politics.

In america, there are about 40-50 million half-stupid, lobotomized, ultracapitalist, right wing , religiously-driven republican voters. As a president, you just can`t ignore them. Fortunately, Mr Obama does not completely forget and ignore those voters, even in the case their judgment and their reasoning are not good for the country.

Remember, the Creation does not govern/rule for just a few, for a selected elite of creatures, the Creation rules in equality and gives equal opportunities to everything, be it positive or negative, good or bad, criminals or good citizens.
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Justsayno
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Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Carlos, yeah I didn't like the scary one either. The pain in my abdomen went away when I realized it had the effect as was intended and I moved onto the next illusion. I've seen other videos like it, so even though it was a shock, it wasn't. And try to get that mental image out of your head or try watching it about 10 times and see if you're still scared .

Defrocked it is, Ramirez, lol.
I'm still not entirely sure that the Chile video wasn't drones, they can fly for 30 hours and are remote controlled. Chiles biggest export is copper to the U.S. Maybe they're making sure that they get as much as they can, by checking Chile's supplies, it seems like the capabilities allow them to see through anything but metal. I don't know about you guys but 2 years ago I was informed that copper is a huge commodity. There has been random thefts of it everywhere, even in my own county recently. They're even stealing it from working machinery.
Look at this, nasa spying on Chile, this past January:
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA12063
Which is a real step up from having to get photos from the space shuttle in 2000:
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA11017

Gib_niner, I've been convinced that laser technology has been able to be used on anyone, thank goodness they are/were sticking to cows. When my friend showed me pictures of their cow with the udder completely lasered off, that's when I knew we could all be targets. But if someone were killed by a laser, there would be too many questions, wouldn't there? It's not like the coroner would say that this person just died of natural causes (like the veterinarian did). Too many questions that people running this stuff, don't want to answer. The laser was invented in 1957, so they've had a lot of
years to refine it.
I forgot that the craft is able to withstand intense heat, thanks for that. For some reason I thought Mercury was much hotter than the high of 845 degrees F.

Bianca, yes I've seen that one before, and it is pretty wild. Is that standard practise when filming UFO videos, to bring along your night goggles? I just read in Popular Science that by this fall the police will have a leaping robot which can leap 25ft into the air. Could they be testing that out? All videos on youtube are suspect.
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Smukhuti
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Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remember, Billy said Obama is the "best" US president so far - did not used the term "perfect".
Now, hypothetically, there can be 44 Presidents and the "best" of them could still score 20 out of scale of 100.
Realists will be supportive of Obama whereas perfectionists will still be finding deficiencies which of course are present in him.
Salome.
Suv
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Corey
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Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe Barack Obama can move the United States towards a centralist government instead of Republican or Democrat the two of which would ultimitely lead to a civil war (Henoch prophecies) a centralist government that can radiate with the other centralist governments in the world a long slow process towards international harmony. Billy said Barack Obama possesses then personality to prevent ww3 which is good enough for me.

I'm not saying I favor the rise of troops to Afghanistan but at least he got international approval before doing so, something Bush and Cheney chose not to do before invading Iraq and murdering all of those people to take out one tyrant something one special ops team could have done obviously. That proves Barack can make good decisions in a crisis and I beleive that should be an essential personality trait of a President to try and follow the laws of our United Nations not just blatently go around them. The rise in terrorism that Billy forsaw is real and maybe Barack feels if the moves against Al Queda now he can prevent much of that. With all the forseen looming climate disaster I wouldn't want anyone else President of the US then Barack Obama hands down which is why I voted for him in the first place and I am glad I did all these months later seeing Billy pay him compliments in the Q & A section. I mean all the 2012 stuff changes to the earth's magneitc field solar storms etc it going to hit during Baracks first term in office. Considering history it is a lot to expect for of all people the US Government to evolve but maybe it can it seems to show some maturity now different then it's predecessors, but I guess in truth time will tell.-

Billy says in the upcoming years all humans will want to fight more do to the climate change it will change our brain composition and our collective conciousness so we will all have to reject war to survive this one.

salome,
Corey
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Justsayno
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Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now if Obama did stuff like reforming torte laws (but this might put a lot of his lawyer buddies out of business) or not allowing anyone leaving public office to become a lobbyist, that would go a long way in reforming your country. That was one of the first things our PM did was to not allow public officials from becoming lobbyists for 5 years. How about an election campaign that lasts for 2 months instead of 18 months? Your elections remind me of a Saturday night at Catholic mass, lol, it seems to last as long. Our previous PM put in a law that corporations cannot donate any money to the political parties, only individuals can donate to a maximum of about $1,100. Now for every vote they get during an election, they receive $1.75. It doesn't hurt to scale down.
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Kingman
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Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Syn,

IMO, your post in the Q & A section contained elements that I obviously see otherwise. Your latest reply is clearly no different. So I can accurately see you believe what you are saying and reading about Obama and I have my opposing points I believe. Neither of us really know what goes on in Washington D.C. from a non-slanted source, so we may be suffering from such an effect.

Other members have posted since our reply's and I think I'll let their reply's be enough to semi-refute how I think your nearly all negative position on Obama stands. It's just not feasible for either of us to understand clearly what a US President is faced with when they are actually dealing with issues and not ignoring them like our last President. All our info is second hand and tainted like the trace poisons Billy says can be found in all foods now.

A two-term President wields much more effect on society and with that and the clear approval of Obama as the candidate by Billy, I am going to stay on the neutral-positive position and actually support our President for the better. I respond to posts that I think, IMO, are overly negative for inaccurate reasons and appear to be based in only the negative. Obama has not performed to my satisfaction so far either, but remember, he's in charge of an out of control train that has the brake operators not helping the train to slowdown. As the engineer of this inherited train, he will need to find any method he can muster to save the train from its looming demise. We are both on that train, or at the destination it's about to crash into. And since the world operates in polarities, all angles of the picture will be needed to assist in acquiring an accurate image of that reality, and thus help in stopping that crazy train from crashing into everything. Rain or shine, they both do their part. I just don't like acid-rain or cancer-causing Sun exposure. Hopefully neither do you.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Syn
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Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 04:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what the hell is up with this bull. its like you blindly follow him. didn't he say to question everything and that billy only provides what he knows. i done research and that is what i draw!

also you still have yet to provide any concrete proof that he is otherwise. so come back when you got something rather then just your opinion.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority

-Gerald Massey
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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The solution to all the world's dictatorships, including Western ones like the USA, is to send international fighters for peace into all these lands with lightning swiftness and unmatchable superiority of arms and skill, and kill by slaughter or assassination every single one of the responsible politicians and crime-lords. With the USA Special Forces, for instance, this could have been done to Saddam Husain's entire henchmanry and to him in just one day, using stealth deployment and Delta Force training and weapons.

If we veritably will to have peace upon this planet, we must accept that the executioner, the Grim Reaper, is as much a integral part of love and peace as is the beauty Venus. There is a shell on every viable egg.

I say, if Obama aims to impress us, he begin to annihilate the evil ones by the hundreds, without warning and several steps ahead of any possible escape. This should be done remorselessly and mercilessly, since such life has no right to live anyhow.

If he be logically and honestly neutral, though, then he must kill many Americans first and foremost.

If, instead of attacking the World Trade Center as he supposedly did, for instance, Osama bin Laden had killed President Bush, Condi Rice, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Bush Sr, etc, etc, he would have done no wrong.

Many Americans seem to believe that Islamic terrorists are, as a rule, envious of American wealth. But that is non-sense. Most of the serious terrorists are wealthier than 99% of Americans, and better educated and more cultured. What they do not have is the wisdom to cognize what would generally solve their problems rather than simply sow more evil. Instead of killing the responsible ones, they kill uninvolved civilians along with them. If they would cease killing the uninvolved and directly assassinate those at fault, peace upon Earth might become possible.

Salome,

- Matthew
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Sitkaa
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Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"If, instead of attacking the World Trade Center as he supposedly did, for instance, Osama bin Laden had killed President Bush, Condi Rice, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Bush Sr, etc, etc, he would have done no wrong."

Uh, no. That is taking it too far. Besides the fact that it it is illegal to threaten people, much less powerful people, it is also petty, and destructive. Regardless of how the crooks that run our society shouldn't, the only way to build a better society is creatively, not destructively. Anything else doesn't work.

The societal changes are due, but they are best expressed culturally, not with petty posturing and jostling for predominance. That is the same behavior which got here in the first place.
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