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Matthew_justin_deagle Member
Post Number: 163 Registered: 05-2009
| Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 08:24 am: |
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Marbar, We should just listen to Billy on this issue and promote a birth-stop and parental requirements, not a one child only policy. Only might-greedy humans or those seeking instant gratification will to employ crude and freedom-attacking measures against these issues. Salome, - Matthew |
   
Darren Member
Post Number: 89 Registered: 07-2009
| Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 04:13 pm: |
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Marbar, my question was lowly thought out. To be fair to all, a "One-Child Policy" should apply to all countries, even low populated countries like Australia. |
   
Sanjin Member
Post Number: 82 Registered: 06-2009
| Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 06:33 pm: |
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The one child policy has a huge problem, which is actually quite evident in China. Since they can only have one child, the Chinese abort girls until they have a boy, which also results in a large male to female ratio. http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iwHmmE-EkljwdntStW3doUt69qHQ 36.The human is another person, when, surrounded by the rays of the heavenly creational sunrise, the pure delight of awakening nature streams through him.
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Earthling Member
Post Number: 331 Registered: 05-2008
| Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 03:05 am: |
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Typical of conspiracy websites, more sensational headlines & stories to lure & mislead the gullible & credulous for personal gain and financial profit; in this case, Stewart Swerdlow asserting absolute rubbish. His assertions are refuted by Billy, Sfaath & Queztal. http://http://www.theyfly.com/Human_Animal.html http://www.expansions.com/News.cfm December 11, 2009 Poor Hitler A news report today claims that the KGB burned the remains of Hitler and Eva Braun in 1970 and dumped the ashes in a river in East Germany. This bogus story comes just a few weeks after a scientists claimed the skull of Hitler that was kept by Russian authorities actually was that of a female. Why would Hitler's body be kept for 25 years in a grave and then burned? Why would a skull be kept by officials and claim it was Hitler's? The answer is--it was all a cover up for the fact that he and Eva fled Germany for Argentina and lived happily there for decades. This has been confirmed by the head of Argentina's secret police who guarded Hitler until his death. We are witnessing the rewriting of history by the NWO. When such things occur, it is to pave the way for a new chapter in history that must be foundationally supported by rewritten rubbish paraded as truth. |
   
Corey New member
Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2009
| Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 12:55 pm: |
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Hey guys don't forget that aside from enforcing world peace, one of the duties of the multi-national peace keeping troop would also involve enforcing strict worldwide birth controls and regulations. Without reducing our population levels, we get terrible environmental catastrophe to come where thousands and millions of people die, plus the rise of neo nazism and terrorism.* peace, Corey * recent 23 page booklet where Billy explains that we have a small chance and what happens if we don't listen. Titled "Mensch der Erde, es ist für dich dringend Zeit, dich zum Besseren und zum Guten zu wandeln..." |
   
Kingman Member
Post Number: 716 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 02:23 pm: |
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Earthling, Your post with the link towards expansion.com article is followed by the actual article. Unfortunately, in this form you used, it has an appearance that your saying the 'Hitler lived on in Argentina etc.'. Remember the use of your quotation marks so newbies don't think your coo-coo. Unless you like being seen as kinda krazy and all.... I only think your a little bit like that, but you already know that  a friend in america Shawn
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Matthew_justin_deagle Member
Post Number: 169 Registered: 05-2009
| Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 02:43 pm: |
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Earthling, Assuming hypothetically that Hitler did live in Argentina and had living descendents, do you think Billy would, taking account of the worldwide hatred towards Hitler and vengefulness, talk openly about this? I think you need to read over Dyson's translation about lies vs. concealments a few times, and transverbate/translate the original German word-for-word. Salome, - Matthew |
   
Earthling Member
Post Number: 333 Registered: 05-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 03:22 am: |
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Kingman .. thanks, I forgot the quotation marks. Matthew ... what does your hypothetical postulation have to do with the fact that Billy, Sfaath & Quetzal confirmed not only Hitlers death, but his advanced case of syphilis, and Mr. Swerdlow self-serving/self-promoting assertion that Hitler & his wife lived happily ever after in Argentina for decades until their natural death? I've already read/readified & transverbiatatiated/transliteratiated Dyson's translation about lies vs. concealment. If Billy wished to protect any of Hitlers living descendants, he wouldn't have revealed this info. |
   
Edward Member
Post Number: 1564 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 06:08 am: |
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Hi Michael.... Sounds great, if it got out!!! There will ALWAYS be individuals who will 'deny' it! Just a couple of days ago, I watched a short New Report of two individuals: One making his book known of the Green House Effect(and CO2 emission), which was a much younger fella and an somewhat older man, with his book - Denying - the mentioned, is not true. Were both English.[BBC report, I think it was?] Just incomprehensible, that there are still naive individuals who do NOT Acknowledge - Global Green House effect -, and her destruction, by HUMANS, in this case Global Overpopulation!!. It was a very short debate, of course, and in the end they both want each other to read their books!! Edward. |
   
Matthew_justin_deagle Member
Post Number: 173 Registered: 05-2009
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 12:11 pm: |
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Eartling, 'transverbate ... to translate verbally or word for word' 'The Compact Oxford English Dictionary', page 2100 At reguard to the Hitler mystery, I am not acquainted with enough of the evidence to say whether Hitler himself escaped or died in a bunker, but there is evidence that at least Hitler look-alikes survived in Argentina and the United States. Hitler probably had doubles, so that could explain one of these Hitlers having been protected by Argentina. There certainly were many Nazis who fled to Argentina, and even Joseph Mengele himself continued to work in Brazil and the United States till long after the war ended. Salome, - Matthew |
   
Justsayno Member
Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2009
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 08:33 am: |
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It's pretty hard to think about global warming when I live in what was the coldest spot in the world yesterday. The reality is, some people look forward to global warming because it's so damn cold. It's easy to talk about the climate change deniers when you live in a home that you don't have to heat. We only get 5 months of good weather and the rest is winter. The tar sands are roughly the size of Florida, which one is worse for polution? It's much easier to blame the tar sands than look in your own back yard. You have to realize in those pictures that is also a lot of steam, not just C02, but everyone assumes that it is all CO2. Plus in the last year, there has been less production there (this is a fact that no one likes to talk about). Canada also produces 2% of emissions for the whole planet. (and no, I'm not being paid by some oil or gas company either) The sequestering of CO2 is in it's enfant stage and hopefully will be able to reduce some of this. Our only hope is alternative energy because they are going to squeeze the last drop of oil out of the tar sands. Since there are so many U.S. oil companies involved it was suggested by our environment minister to get the Americans to help out with the clean up. What do you say about that? |
   
Marbar Member
Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2009
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 05:18 pm: |
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I agree that that "Birth Stop" solution is the best chance for our future survival. The question now is, how would something like that be enforced, especially with the teenagers and the porn industry? |
   
Elreyjr Member
Post Number: 82 Registered: 01-2009
| Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 02:03 pm: |
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greetings, here is the link to an hour and a half documentary on climate change, uploaded middle of this year with over 4 million views. a good number of big names supported the production. great areal shots of the reality of the planet Earth. one big remark is the absence of a mention of the over-population issue that connects all the dots. a pity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqxENMKaeCU |
   
Corey New member
Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2009
| Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 02:07 pm: |
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Marbar said:"how would something like that be enforced?" enforceable birth permits where you have to apply and prove your the legal procreation-able age and can be an adequate parent financially etc otherwise the world-wide birth halt would be under effect for all citizens. Something that is supposed to follow a seven year cycle as well meaning you can only apply as would be parents in seven year intervals. Birth permits, something our planet hopefully will put into effect sooner then later, but considering the way things are going for the masses more then likely later, after some long, hard, and terrible lessons learned such as desertification and other climate disasters (Schuld). I would guess the multi-national peace keeping troop being the ones responsible for planetary birth regulations would also enforce strict birth control among our teenagers and render the porn industry along with child and all other forms of prostitution enforceably illeagal. The problem with this set up is that it is a solution and right now the masses are not comfortable with solutions that require an amount of understanding and striving for the truth to understand and enforce. peace Corey |
   
Rarena Member
Post Number: 543 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 04:33 pm: |
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Dear Justsayno, Hi, I don't think we've coresponded before, my name is Randy, how do you do... Billy and the alleged Plejaren, Ptaah... have often said the cause for global warming will not be found unless overpopulation is understood as the main cause for all of the planets' ills. The more time scientists spend on incomplete theories which do not encompass the root cause (I.E Overpopulation greator than 529 million people on Earth) is the longer it will be for us to reach an equlibrium on all fronts on the global scale. Salome |
   
Sanjin Member
Post Number: 87 Registered: 06-2009
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 03:22 pm: |
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Hi Randy. Could you please point me to the contact where it says that the cause for global warming will not be found? 36.The human is another person, when, surrounded by the rays of the heavenly creational sunrise, the pure delight of awakening nature streams through him.
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Rarena Member
Post Number: 549 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 03:42 pm: |
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The exact location of my previous information is not available to me right now. It was referenced in several recent (past two or three years) Wassermanzeits, Sonder Bulletins or normal Bulletins where contact paragraphs and the numerous references were provided. The jist of the discussion was... Global warming is a minor attribute of overpopulation. Spending time on the symptoms (I.E Global warming, earthquakes, climate change etc. etc. etc.) rather than the root cause... a timely solution becomes less attainable and the time for Earth to rebound from the monumental damage already incurred looms further and further away. For example a worldwide birthstop started three years ago had the possiblity to correct (at that time) many things within sixteen years... that would make it a bit more than a decade from this year... each good mind spent on the symptoms rather than the root cause... may not now be reversible for as many as one hundred and fifty years if at all... At this time less than 1000 people have signed this well thought out document, let alone practiced or read the precise knowledge and wisdom available within it: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Special:Petition If that link is not available go to FIGU.org or Theyfly.com to find out more. My advice to anyone... is to read the document, follow the advice and use those wonderful minds for real solutions rather than comparativly minor symptoms in the mainstream media at this time... |
   
Marbar Member
Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2009
| Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 12:52 pm: |
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Hi Rarena, A good start to population control is not to let teenagers get married. Here are some articles that anyone may want to read: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/fashion/04marriage.html http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/08/national/main528755.shtml |
   
Rarena Member
Post Number: 553 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 03:22 pm: |
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Found a recent document stating the above reference to overpopulation as being the MAIN issue: Earthpersons: it is urgently time to change for the better... Mensch der Erde, es ist für dich dringend Zeit, dich zum Besseren und zum Guten zu wandeln ... It is a pamphlet available from Billy: Here is a small quote: [Overpopulation](sic) is unquestionably the greatest evil on the earth, because the further and the faster this grows, the bigger and more insoluable and extensive are the problems resulting from it. Diese ist unbestreitbar das allergrösste Übel auf der Erde, denn je weiter und je schneller diese wächst, desto grösser, umfangreicher und unlösbarer werden all die daraus resultierenden Probleme.  |
   
Indi Member
Post Number: 373 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 04:24 pm: |
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It has been my experience that when an unwanted behaviour presents, in order to get longterm results, it is more fruitful to address the cause of a disorder, rather than the presenting symptoms. Eg., if the 'populace' were provided with a roof over their heads, food in their bellies, and clothes to wear, in exchange for work for the good of all, instead of the current setup of capitalist materialism, where there are a few 'haves' and many 'have nots' and many inbetween -- if that was an option, and the rules were that to receive these, one had to limit the size of a family -- I think then, population control would not be so difficult. In this climate of poverty, struggle to find enough money to provide for ourselves and families, it is important to be viewing one's own predicament rather than having a more worldly view that encompasses the needs of all. The teachings say that the spirit needs the physical to be in place, and healthy in order to achieve as long a life for the gaining of knowledge and then wisdom. They also say that the task of accruing material things, if this takes over ones existence, detracts significantly from the knowledge and wisdom gained in that lifetime. This would also apply to the daily grind of working to pay the bills and remain above water -- and many people are only living week to week in that regard, and many too day to day.It is a quite fragile position many are in. So, to address the cause, will impact on the overpopulation issues quite easily. There is little use doing what also the medical profession mistakenly does in most cases, which is treat the presenting symptoms without going deeper to the core of the issue. This often leads to (as with population control attempts) failure in the longterm, as it is really only putting a bandaid on the issue, without the consciousness of the people being 'ready' for such a change by not being burdened with hunting and gathering. Just my thoughts Robyn |
   
Justsayno Member
Post Number: 71 Registered: 10-2009
| Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 10:53 am: |
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Hi Randy, nice to meet you (sorry I missed your post). That really is the heart of the problem, isn't it, overpopulation. But how are we going to get through to the religious extremists who believe it's their god given right to have children? To make it law will be very hard to do. Is the only solution to do it without people knowing what is being done to them, by making them infertile through vaccines and injections? I went to check out your link but find it is not working. Sheila |
   
Corey Member
Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2009
| Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 11:54 am: |
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http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2009/nr-49/478-kontaktgespraech the latest word from contact 478 where Ptaah reiterates that overpopulation is the main reason for all evils on Earth. This fact of overpopulation was missed during a recent nuclear disarmament and climate (Klimaverbesserung) G8 summit. Billy iterates some interesting information also. Salome, Corey |
   
Rarena Member
Post Number: 555 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 07:21 am: |
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Billy has oft advised us not to try and educate the religous extremists and fanatics. The birthstop plan is a very well thought out document explaining every detail and scenario throughly. As to the link not working... it works for me. I've noticed some censoring of certain web sites in certain countries. If you have an IBM-type pc try highlighting the link then copy: Ctrl C and Paste: Ctrl V into your browser rather than just the click on the blue letters. |
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