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Ramirez
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Syn,

What more can I express except great admiration for your most recent question to Billy in the monthly Q&A section :-)

Reassuring to know at least someone is firmly anchored in reality and prepared to express themselves openly.

El Presidente accepted the Nobel Peace prize with his nose pointing so high into the air he appears in danger of drowning should it rain.
Maybe this angle of vision has a secondary effect in that it makes him selectively deaf as well.

Enviroment ..... has El Presidente taken any notice of the abundantly available evidence that there exist viable alternatives to fossil fuels and seeing that US government is now effectively a major stakeholder in failing and crumbling vehicle manufacturers wouldn't it make sense to turn those companies and the US economy around in addition to doing something tangible for the enviroment by producing vehicles which run on pollution free power sources like water or zero point energy (torsion physics) ?

Maybe that's just too real for dreamland.
I think some folks heads in US politics are spinning so fast, crammed full of denial, lies and fantasies they simply lost touch with the concept of on the ground reality.
Cheers.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Adrian, -40 is the same in both official temperatures :-). Machinery starts snapping and breaking at about -35C. So I can't see the electric car being any different than any other machinery.
I think all vehicles over 10 years old should be taken off the roads because all the new ones have higher emissions standards and are less polluting. But unfortunately that would only penalize the poor.
Ramirez, is the field testing still going on for the torsion energy? I see they started in 2004 and nothing since?
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 364
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Justsayno,

Field testing torsion physics energy ......

Look here www.cheniere.org

The Russians are even further ahead.

Cap and Trade .... a 10 minute film from this site: www.carbontradewatch.org/

http://www.carbontradewatch.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=337&Itemid=168
Cheers.
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Aburns87
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

informative video regarding cap and trade...thank you! but again, it still fails to touch on the core cause of all these problems... too many people...

-andrew
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Sonik_01
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is zero-point energy(torsion physics)??? CAn someone explain or provide a useful website? Is it what makes beamships work,lol? Thanks.
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Kingman
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Post Number: 725
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's reassuring to know that a few people actually don't know what a true strategy is to change something in our broken political system. Otherwise we could be way deeper in our corporate fed poo by them growing in numbers and gain in their illogical folly. Folly I say! Pointing out the cause before an effect shows up is hypothetical in its nature and is just embittered posturing.

Justsayno accurately hit on our problem in the US on another topic with his post regarding the financing of our political campaigns and such. Many people became very aware of this fact in this last presidential election and gave personal donations to Obama that changed the outcome.

Corporations are the sin we allow to control many of the reasons why we suffer today. Our environment will only get the help it needs when our leaders are no longer beholden to these vampiric corporations. Campaign finance reform is something we can change more easily than the main ill of overpopulation. Once the idea of reelection of a politician is based on servicing their constituents, their voting record will be the basis of their chances. Anybody's current over-hyped displeasure at Obama is just shortsightedness and sounds kinda bitter. It's all about the hate. Of course IMO. Boo! Scared ya huh!
a friend in america
Shawn
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Shawn, that's MRS. Justsayno to you buster, lol. I'm actually flattered that you think I'm a man. The funny thing about our two countries was that when PM Harper was first elected in 2006, both national medias told us that he was an extreme right winger with a hidden agenda. They demonized him and nothing he could do would be right and he'd be out the door in no time with his minority government. He just keeps getting better every year. But to start out with such high hopes when you elected Obama, eventually that pedestal is going to be kicked out from underneath him. I noticed that even if people didn't know what he stood for, they would just make something up, whatever they believed in, they seemed to transfer that onto Obama. I don't doubt that he's the best man for the job. But a little honest criticism never hurt.
If you can cripple corporate influence, that does help. But consumer demand is what is going to change the corporations into producing something that we want.
Hi Ramirez, I'm afraid that cap and trade is only going to benefit the rich and will do nothing else. Look at the EU with their 11 billion dollar cap and trade shenanigan fund. Visions of things to come?
Hi Sonik, no, zero point energy and torsion are not the same thing. Check out Ramirez's first link the www.cheniere.org and for the basics, there's always wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_field
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 130
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A long link but worth reading the article:

http://www.nhne.org/news/NewsArticlesArchive/tabid/400/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/6436/language/en-US/Mikhail-Gorbachev-We-Have-A-Real-Emergency.aspx
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 132
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael,

Since the Brundtland report (http://worldinbalance.net/intagreements/1987-brundtland.php) we have been able to discern, for certain, that social injustice (esp. poverty and economic inequities) drives environmental destruction. What Gorby hits on that is central to the issue is the "inertia of the existing economic model" that drives overcompetition. We know this, and yet, some people cannot change, even in the face of planetary self-destruction. These people live in poverty - among the most affluent, this means poverty of spirit.

They do not know a better way, cannot visualize it, cannot believe that it is possible. And indeed, there are very few realistic comprehensive models of how the world's socio-economic system could be better. Just producing a model for people to visualize, for people to test and say "Yea, we could live like that", would go a long way towards making it actualize.
Love is always the way
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Kingman
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Post Number: 730
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Justsayno,
It must have been your deep voice that fooled me, lol! Are you Nancy(just say, 'No!')Reagan? :-) You have the honor of being my first iPhone post. Your viewpoint is much appeciated, even if your 'ManClub' membership is now questionalble! I failed to look into the mystery of the Extreme Rightwing Socialistic Conundrum Syndrome in Canada, that has the media seeking therapy, secretly of course.

Well, that's two things off my 'Assumed' list. Thanks!
a friend in america
Shawn
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Shawn, well I do feel honoured to be your first iPhone post, how is that working for you? No, I'm not Nancy, I didn't realize that my typing fingers sounded so masculine. But it was either justsayno or my alter ego justsayupyours, lol. I'm pretty sure our media is seeking therapy, they can't figure out why the general public has an aversion to the former liberals and their envelopes of cash and the sponsorship scandal and their mantra "I'm entitled to my entitlements". They assume we'll just forgive and forget. Just imagine what your country would be like if you only had two Fox like channels. That's what it's like here, but only without msnbs (pun intended) or cnn. But you do need Fox because that seems to be the only media that is holding Obama to his word. Like I said, honest critism is not a bad thing, especially compared to down right lies (like our media). But I do love how both our medias are gravitating towards the internet for all their news, lol.
What do you think about all the increased security at your airports? Just to find bottles of honey, lol. I would think your chances of being struck by lighning would be better than being on a plane with a hijacker. That gal I saw on tv from the pentagon seemed to think it may have been played out that way to increase terror in people's minds. Wasn't your Patriot Act up for renewal?
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Kingman
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Post Number: 735
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi JSN,

I have a strong idea the 'shadow' government, the one that really maintains our continuous stream of secret interventions in other governments/countries around the world, is in a war with Obamas change policies, and the underwear christmas bomber was an answer to his threats. Fiction doesn't write things as unbelievable.

Seeing how this is an environment thread, I'll continue a general post about my latest conspiracy in the current events area. Thats if 'they' don't get to me first. You know.............. them.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 83
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Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Shawn, I tend to agree with you on that.
Yes, back to the environment....I found some really freaky tomato/potato plants and apparently you cannot eat the "tomato" as it is poisonous. So what was the point of this experiment on unsuspecting consumers?

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cUJPDNljwI
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6rQ0YeBv4Q&feature=related
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Marbar
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if this would be a good idea. Since some places are getting record snow falls, why don't someone get much of that snow as possible, save the water from when the snow melts, and put it in some water trucks.

Next, since some areas are having terrible droughts, why don't they use the water from the melted snow and water some of crops in areas with the worst drought.
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Kingman
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Post Number: 736
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi JSN,

I don't know much about potatoes, except I like them. Is there any other info on this plant. I could guess all kinds of good movie plot material what this abominable plant is doing in that garden. None would be scientific. Did bugs avoid it? How fast did it produce fruit? Did it produce seeds as well. What did the 'taters taste like, etc.

Maybe they were trying to move along some defective goods that weren't easy to sell. Maybe this batch was switched at birth!

Nice potatoes by the way!
a friend in america
Shawn
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Kingman
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Post Number: 737
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Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marbar,

Crops in general aren't grown in farming areas during winter(snow) weather. Transporting the water would be costly compared to just learning better conservation. Snow does find its way into water supplies, but on its own schedule.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Darren
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Post Number: 122
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

towing huge icebergs is also a good one that will probably happen sometime near future.
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Scott
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Post Number: 1906
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

6.5 Earthquake off the coast of Eureka, Calif.
3 smaller earthquakes in the SF Bay Area in the last 4 days...I don't know if cloud formations are any indicator of e-quake activity, but there seems to be what people are calling earthquake clouds in the area.
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Kingman
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Post Number: 738
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Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've never heard of "earthquake clouds". Do they appear over the fault? This is strange thing to try and reason out, but it could be something if the pre-quake energies caused some atmospheric disturbance in the vicinity.

Supposedly, it's something seen before the quake, right?
a friend in america
Shawn
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Edward
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Post Number: 1609
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 03:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott....


That would indeed, be a NEW phenomenon!

The Earth Quake I/we(family) experienced in LA (mid 60's), was in the summer
and it was clear blue as can be. [And back then...they were talking about: The
Big One!]

Well, some say, it is best to have a pet in your environment: animals seem to
detect Trimmers and Earth Quakes, ahead of time! [Possibly, electromagnetic
disturbances...they can sense...(?)]

I think, there are even such stories mentioned in European folklore. And the
animal was honored!

So, when your house pet acts peculiar...something is going to happen!


Edward.
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Johnboy
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 04:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott,
Clouds are not the only indicator, the electro-magnetic release of energy from a pending earthquake is so powerful it can also produce lightning in those clouds at the time of the rupture in the fault zone.

The 6.5 seaquake off the shore of northern California is at the southern end of the same subduction zone fault line that had the 7.4 seaquake off the Canadian shore about a month ago. Could the predicted 9.0 Bandon,OR seaquake be far behind? Logic dictates that if both ends of the same fault line have a large energy release, the middle of the fault line will give way as well.
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Memo00
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Post Number: 404
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi Scott

i donīt know if earthquakes can be predicted through the clouds, but once i saw a documentary in which they explained a technology through which it was possible to predict them, if i remember well supposedly prior to an earthquake there are certain movements of the earth and certain gases or something are released to the atmosphere which could be detected through certain sensors, i dont know what happened with that technology since then...
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 131
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe some clues as per volcanoes:

http://www.theyfly.com/VOLCANOES.htm

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