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Stafath
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Meh just as I thought.. you are no help at all.
I am a extraterrestial.
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 354
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Concerning the letters warning about Apophis :

Perhaps an abbreviated cover version would be a good idea ; presenting the major points only , and work on it's appeal , as if you were someone who knew what people like to look at and what looks like a big investment of their time , especially coming from someone that they do not know . Agencies also have Bulk/Spam boxes for their email .

If they write back , send them more , or include links to the larger version .

Don't send them a large book size article to read ....get to the point of what , why , how ,etc.

Write smart , send smarter .

MC
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Darren
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stafath, I didn't mean to offend you. It was just a joke, a poor one at that.
You'll find your answers in the meier material and not us. Thats if you have the desire and time to do so.
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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi all.

I feel disheartened today (I can only imagine how disheartened you or Billy feel some times)

I know my enthusiasm and energy levels are high and I continue being hopeful, entrepreneur and passive-positive, there is no other way

I just wanted to share my feelings with people who would understand what I mean.

I have sent some internet campaign for people to visit the crusade against overpopulation page.

so far in 3 days I have seen 278 people have followed that link; let's say that 10 people have actually read it; and let's say that 1 or 3 have been interested in knowing more from that point onwards

in the other hand, we have news like these: Just one of Honda's factories, producing one ICE engine every 90 seconds!

(http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/watch-honda-vfr1200f-built-90-seconds/)

amongst other atrocities going on that we discuss here every day.

This seems to be a lost fight..
--
Salome
Carlos
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Johnnybalmain
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 02:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all,
I have been trying to educate people of australia about a technology that is being brought forward very slowly in western australia at this very moment. The name of the company is called Carnegie and it is building a 5Kwt power generator of electricity (or desalination plant) of the coast of western australia. It uses undersea wave technology to produce enough pressure to produce electricity or fresh water.This technology should have been fast tracked years ago but I suspect political forces have been against its creation for some reason or another for a long time. Feel free to investigate here is the website.http://www.carnegiecorp.com.au/
Peace John
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 160
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Carlos, it is not a lost fight, far from it.
It is a change in the winds which, however slow, is unavoidable.
Love is always the way
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 356
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder what would be the result of an advertised lecture/course about the plight of Overpop ; that is , the event , a public gathering, is a genre in itself that attracts people who like to sit in rooms and take notes about various subjects as a pasttime .
Adult evening courses , for example .
Privately organised , and not directly representing the FIGU .

Mark
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 879
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheer up Carlos!

OM32:1979. There are not enough shovels to bury the truth.

OM32:2059. The dawn breaks even without the rooster’s crow.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/Om.htm

Google "free energy". Smile. (It helps.)

Remind yourself who's solely responsible for your happiness.

Cheers!
Dyson
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Kingman
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Post Number: 763
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Mark,

If we offered free food and beer we could pack the house. Kidding of course. The need for a professional speaker would be required to keep people involved. That would probably be the most difficult element of such an idea.

I think a concert in the park with good music and an intermission of information with an entertaining speaker might work also. Or, hook up with world wide concert promoters and offer a great graphical/visual presentation for the necessary intermissions that entertains as well as informs the people without disturbing their entertaining moment.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 360
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It could work , Shawn . Thanks for sound ideas . Featured documentary , a concert , a related art gallery ,and free refreshments donated from distributors . Creativity meets an otherwise desperate and dire challenge to get moton on the issue.

Once folks get the idea that Overpop is the actual source of the problems ,it might fly on those wings . My sense is that the time comes for it , since more sensible than not dominates with the educated set . It's like anything else ,the focused mind convinces those who ... are almost as focused .

Cheers , Mark
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Matt
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Post Number: 115
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark and Shawn,

They are all very good ideas but I think a good documentary on overpopulation will help more imo then any kind of concert or gatherings because doco/films can always continue to show/imform people while gatherings can't. Gatherings are hand me down stories/interpretations to friends while doco's aren't. People get the full picture when you direct them to watch the doco, is what i mean.
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 361
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right , Matt ;
.. but rather than to compare one thing over the other , to let thoughts run free is how creativity , and what's the word ...?.. enthusiasm ...(can't have that ,can we ?)inspire self and others , to shoot down an idea from the moment it starts is, well, death by committee .

I elect you as chairman .

Anyway I thought I mentioned including your documentary as the main feature .... but let's project just what people will do in any circumstance , but we can't , so let's don't .

Just talking , typing .... can't have that

"who ever killed him also murdered the english language " Quote : Richard Castle
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Kingman
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Post Number: 764
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt,
A documentary could easily be a part of these ideas. Sometimes you have to bring the message to the people. Expecting them to tune in on their own is expecting.

Expect to be disappointed.

To get a young music loving audience to watch something, while waiting for the next act or at home, it needs to be involved right inside their tight world-view. Music events cater to a very specific crowd making for easily targeted people. A proper, yet very simple documentary(maybe made with willing musicians), intersected with many different cultural perspectives, could be re-fashioned for any available intermissions of different events, with the focusing of the pertinent culture/target from that part of the documentary.

I'm probably way overreaching, eh?

If I see Elvis again I'll ask him if he'd do a short docu' for the world .
a friend in america
Shawn
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Jokoveltman
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like the idea of a documentary very much. I can do web design/programming, and am technically quite capable - no experience in video, though.

As for music, there is some very interesting stuff on Jamendo.com ... all under Creative Commons licences. The biggest challenge I see, however, is finding/making engaging footage.
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Johnboy
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 06:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A large seaquake offshore of northern California last night. A 5.9 and very near the Cascadia subduction zone. This rupture will put a tremendous amount of pressure on the fault line near Bandon, Oregon.
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Stafath
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darren and all,

Darren I was saying it to everyone who replied to me not just you. But thanks for clearing it up that it was a joke. Otherwise I would have been thinking that you are another moron. heh.

For me this being on earth is a really bad dream and the real world is out there in space.
I am a extraterrestial.
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Matt
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark, Shawn and all,

I was talking about a good overpopulation documentary being made according to the Meier material but with little or no mention of Meier in it.
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Scott
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Environment
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Jokoveltman
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Stafath, (is that your given name, btw?)

This planet definitely has it's cons, but you have come to a forum where no one will tell you that there is any such thing as salvation ... there is no back door, and no extraterrestrial is going to make it all go away, and no one to (honestly) tell you that you've just won a free one-way trip to Erra.

There is only one way that your bad dream will go away: your own hard work; and this is true for every last one of us. You can't get off this planet (something even NASA has barely managed), and as corrupt, rotten, and filthy as it is, this place is "just what the doctor ordered" for you, spiritually.

You want help. OK, then, here is a(nother) suggestion: stop moaning about how awful this place is, stop wishing for an escape, and start improving it. And there is only one way to do that: improve yourself. And there is only one way to do that: with the Truth. Stop lying to yourself, stop wishing for an illusion; start taking some responsibility for the state of the world (because you also are responsible for the state of this "hole"); start seeking the Truth.

You asked, so there it is. That's about as good as it's going to get. Probably you do not like what I have just said. Take it or leave it; you are a free being. You may choose to stagnate in your own nightmare, or you can grab your bootstraps and start pulling yourself out (but only a liar will tell you that it will be easy).

Regards,

Tim
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 488
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some of you might find it interesting that there was a movie made back in 1972 called, ZPG: Zero Population Growth starring Oliver Reed and Geraldine Chaplin, which depicted these same problems of overpopulation that Billy discusses, i.e. pollution, crime, etc. Set in the future where the planet is ravaged by the effects of overpopulation, the governments of the world get together and decides the sensible thing to do is to outlaw childbirth, on penalty of death, for the next thirty years.

Although it is the same genre of other 70s dystopia movies such as Logan's Run, THX 1138, Planet of the Apes and Children of Men with dated special effects and cheesy music, the story is what's so moving. It is available on DVD, so one could have a movie watching party with a natural stimulus for discussion and education afterwards. Interestingly, ZPG was co-written and produced by Frank DeFelitta, who is remembered today primarily as the novelist and screenwriter behind the 70s reincarnation hit, Audrey Rose.

People who find the premise of this film unbelievable have never lived in China, where "one woman, one child" was unofficial government policy from the early 1960s until 1979, when it became official state policy. Since then, as the Chinese ruling party itself boasts, the law has prevented the birth of over 300 million people.

Regards
Bob
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Darren
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Post Number: 149
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stafath,

I'm glad you seen it was only a bad joke on my part.

I didn't say it before but I can associate with your bad dreams and feeling the real world is off earth because thats how i feel at times too. A couple of times I've dreamt of being somewhere off this world and they were my favourite type of dreams. A pity I can't make myself have these type of dreams. :-(
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 164
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you are interested in making a documentary (or two or three...) on overpop, I'm in. Whatever help I can provide. It's something that needs to be done.
Love is always the way
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Stafath
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jokoveltman,

Man finally someone who can punch some sense into me kind of. Thanks.
Well Stafath is not my given name but it is my true name.
I am a extraterrestial.

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