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Aburns87
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Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont know if anyone got a chance to see this or not... but i was ecstatic to see that people are slowly waking up about the issue... (6 parts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JypyASU8Aik
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Justsayno
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Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Randy, yes I got through on that link, thank you. I agree with it. But it's going to be hard to get politicians on board unless they want to end their political careers. Would it not be easier to do after the Catholic Church has fallen?
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Stephen_moore
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Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Aburns87,

Sir David Attenborough OM CH CVO CBE is a Patron of Optimum Population Trust
http://www.optimumpopulation.org/opt.aboutus.html

"Sir David Attenborough OM CH CVO CBE, Naturalist, broadcaster and trustee of the British Museum and Royal Botanical Gardens, Kew; and a former controller of BBC Two."

He is a good "asset" to have so to speak as he is well known in the public eye and has been in the public arena for decades.

Thanks for the link to the video
My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc
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Mgilbo1
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Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good news folks! Mainstream media finally brought up overpopulation and the harmful effects it could have on humanity. Jack Cafferty from CNN actually made an honest argument for population control and the viewers tend to agree with his analogy. Here is the video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlcJoZyG2N4

I never thought I would see the day!
Mark Gilbo
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Marcela
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know. Those are some good news!!
Salome,
Marcela.
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Phenix
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peace in wisdom be your you!

A tremendously uplifting news item, that is!
Thanks for sharing, Mgilbo1.

The courageous Mr. Jack Cafferty deserves some support.


Salome.
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 04:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark....

Yes, that is very interesting!

I always watch the - Cafferty Files - when I can, and he brings up very
relevant aspects, which should be discussed, and resolved with Common Sense,
Logic and Reason.

The man, KNOWS...what he is really talking about. Positive for him to address
the (Global) Overpopulation scenario!


Edward.
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Bianca
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Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 04:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,
I just watched the clip on CNN about Over Population, and would like to suggest that everyone who understands the reifications should forward this clip to their friends and family if they deem the message to suit the people. This way is a great way to create global awareness. There is also a clip with Al Gore which is very good.
I would like to think that the message is getting across, even though the many religions around the globe will be re-organzing their sermons for their confused followers.
After all, we know that change always rises from the bottom up, never goes from the top down! Cheers!
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Mgilbo1
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Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 04:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're welcome phenix. Cafferty is a good guy and he has a huge audience so maybe he can get a few people to start thinking.

Peace!
Mark Gilbo
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Phenix
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Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 02:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peace in wisdom be with you!

Indeed, member Mgildbo1!
And it looks like CNN only needed that first, courageous step by Mr. Cafferty on this delicate issue, for overpopulation has also made it to the headlines of CNN as 'Breaking News'!
Overpopulation and the Environment:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/12/11/wian.ca.in.crisis.politics.cnn?iref=allsearch

(Courtesy of Achim Wolf of the German Forum)


And also a group of population activists and scientists/scholars - including professor emeritus Albert A. Bartlett, Chair of Physics, University of Colorado-Boulder; the very author of Laws of Sustainability in this filed: http://nupeo.org/Laws_of_sustainability.html, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY&feature=related - has launched a campaign for overpopulation awareness, called 'Global Population Speak out!':
http://gpso.wordpress.com/2010-pledges/

All humans are welcome to contribute to this effort.


Salome.
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Mgilbo1
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Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haiti video by the NY Times that exposes overpoplation in the country. Its a good watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLmpFHSsGD0

Maybe its time to pressure the church to provide birth control to these people.
Mark Gilbo
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Techieatwork
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Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's so Sad. The whole thing.

I was talking to my son today (by the way, we stopped at two kids, just before someone thinks I preach and don't practice)

I was showing this video and other material to my 13 y/o son, he said: governments should find a way to massively sterilize people.. by means of some ray from satellites, or something like that.

I said to him, well, though it's against personal free-will, it's a good idea but impractical.

Then I explained that here in Australia, there is so much gay population and I mention the fact that there have been found toxins and chemicals in the drinking water (I have links and studies made on local universities here about the excess of chemicals in the water and the effect on fish, turning male fish into neutral), so even though a bit harsh, it's perhaps the more humane way for population reduction?

Homosexuals don't have the same urge to pro-create I would think.

Maybe this is the best, most humane solution for all the countries?

Comments most welcome.
--
Salome
Carlos
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Phenix
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Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peace in wisdom be with you,

Dear Techieatwork,
Do please see the approach of Billy/FIGU on overpopulation here:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Special:Petition
and here:
http://www.thecircleforhumanity.net/

( 'A Crusade Against Overpopulation'/'A Road Towards Humanness' )

Salome.
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Darren
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Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 01:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thankfully a large chunk of the gays (the noisy, outlandish and rude ones!) in Oz move to Sydney. I guess the famous Sydney gay mardi gra is the big drawcard there.
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Edward
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Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 03:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark....


Yes, that would be.

There are just too many people living in such 'limited' geographic
configuration.

Which is not only there, the case, but...also on other similar 'limited'
geographic configurations, on Earth.


Edward.
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Techieatwork
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Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 04:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Phenix:

Yes, I am aware of that, thanks. I made a contribution (translation to Spanish) a few days ago:

http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Petition_Distribution_Colombia

It's just that sometimes I think are not doing enough; besides, I was only stating something that is already known (the chemicals in the drinking water)

but I will slow down now, and I will stick to FIGU's plan: take a calm position of peaceful action
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Salome
Carlos
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Jonzie
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Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Techieatwork, thank you for your comments.

I don't think sexuality is important, but I am commenting as a gay woman (which is utterly unimportant). Gay people are just that: people. Being gay does not make one, in any way, a different kind of human. It can not be said 'gay' people or 'purple' people or 'blah blah' people (some group) don't think like 'normal' people because they don't fit 'normal'. 'Normal' is itself a stereotype, my friend. People are people are people. There is no difference. We were all born the same, raised the same, taught the same (whatever culture we grew up in), tingle time the same, hit mating season the same. A person either wants children or they don't. Their partner-preference doesn't make a bean of difference. There are no chemical (physical or mental) differences between any one group and another: all are human. Please reconsider what you think. I personally, as a child, consciously realized there were too many people and too big a chance for war, and any children I might have, would probably be killed or died young. I myself was only 4-yrs-old when I made the conscious decision that I did not want my kids to be subject to violent Man, therefore I have never had kids and won't. It had nothing to do with being gay.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Rarena
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Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark,

My name is Randy how do you do?

Good vidi... Haiti needs sustainable resources and they blame the government same as us... The third world can teach us by their suffering without us having to suffer... by using our heads and solving the problems before it happens to us in the very same way.

Overpopulation causes so many problems we cannot see the big picture and we tend to see only the minor problems, as in this case how to cut down trees to make charcoal...

It is also good to know the main problem as far as earthquake deaths in Haiti was unreinforced concrete. If you're going to build in a densely populated area... at least do so correctly.

The earthquake was a warning to the people to use reinforced concrete as concrete by itself crumbles. Although many feel it is gods will that the problems occur when really it is their own short sightedness...

Overpopulation is the main factor rather than building with lots of steel. Yet they trade their pennies for unsustainable charcoal. Birth stop and population control would solve their problem... as well as buying scrap metal to build safer, more stout structures.

Overpopulation also effects on a grander scale... for example... the ocean around the island. The runoff caused by the deforestation practices effects the coral and the nutrients in the seafood become less and less the coral is probably dead due to the runoff and the island will erode into the sea and the fish will have no natural habitat.

Education is key, these people need to know what is happening to their island and maybe study what happened to Easter Island, which is very similar to what is happening in Haiti and the entire world. Our world is an island which we can destroy if we are not careful. Overpopulation is the cause.
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Smukhuti
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Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To my understanding, Australia is the only Country where the population density is less than the supported population.

Refer: http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Population_Table_2009

Yet, Australia has a notable presence of the "naturally occurring unnatural variation" of sex. The ferocity of wildfires in Australia seems to increase year by year. Much of its land suffers from chronic droughts. Just goes to show that unless the entire world and all Governments of the world implement strict steps to curb overpopulation, its effect will be felt anywhere and everywhere.
Salome.
Suv
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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although discrimination against homosexuals is reprehensible away-castable, I have cognized that there are two different groups of 'homosexuals', namely homophiles and homosexuals, the former of which are androgynous, and the latter of which are gynandrous. The former are often pederasts, man-whores and loveless left-brain-thinkers, while the latter are just men with feminine brains.

Salome,

- Matthew
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Techieatwork
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Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jonzie.

I think that I owe you (and to all the gay community, whether they get to read this or not) an small apology. I could have sound stereotyping and/or ostracizing (??)

I did a bad choice of words.

I am not referring as the fact of being gay, like something good or bad.

I was saying that my impression has been that a gay man or woman don't feel the same urge to produce off-spring as much as heterosexuals would.

But you may be right (there's teenage years time for that regardless), and I may be wrong

peace Jonzie
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Salome
Carlos
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Phenix
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Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peace in wisdom be with you!

"... but I will slow down now, and I will stick to FIGU's plan: take a calm position of peaceful action.": it feels neutral-positively good to know that, Techieatwork :-)

Thanks for your kind contribution with the Spanish translation.

As for the efforts to promote a wider awareness on the issue of worldwide overpopulation and on the urgent need to implement a worldwide, ethical, democratic and scientific system of birth control, well, one can only do her/his very best and hope, that one's personal example and commitment would inspire others and make them follow suit.

Maybe this would resonate with you: 'Global Population Speak Out!': http://gpso.wordpress.com/2010-pledges/


Salome.
Adam - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Indi
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Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I invite you all to listen to a radio broadcast I heard today, on a national radio station here in Australia. When I listened this morning, I was inspired, as I realized that there are many ways to make impact on populations, one way being popular television soap-type shows, which have been shown to influence the younger people, when they include moral themes and current topics that bear examining and another is current affair programs, that focus on consumers.

When listening to this show, I could see that what was being discussed was another way.

Since studying the Meier material with all the teachings offered (yes, I mean the plural), I have been enabled further than before, to explore my own thoughts of how to change things for the better for the future generations, in more than just the overpopulation sector. I would think, that I am not alone in this and so feel that there may be quite a few on this forum, who may be interested in checking out the 'game' mentioned in the program found at the following link.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/futuretense/stories/2010/2720213.htm

The game is 'superstruct'. At the end of the transcript, there are links to various sites. Please either read or listen first, and then check out the 'games'.

So many people of all ages, play interactive games online, and with sophisticated games such as superstruct, I can see how quite successfully a message for the saving of this planet, the peoples and other creatures as well, that can reach into the minds of many who 'play' and raise the awareness efficiently. Adding into the games, some of the most useful information from the Meier material, can maybe take off due to its logical foundation.

Anyway, just thought that this was something too interesting and maybe useful not to share with you all.

Robyn

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