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    Sitkaa Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2004 |
I enjoy touching the awareness of such people. They are much more subtle and gentle in their relationship with their percieved reality. Benevalence is the vibe, but not neccessarily the intent, although relative to us it would appear as just pure benevolence. The people I was concerned with are not so "benevolent", but neither are they purely evil. Nothing so literal. But they are quite abit more advanced telepathically than I am used to. Love is always the way | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 06-2008 |
Sitkaa, You have telepathic contact with the Andromedans ?? | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2004 |
We swim in a sea of consciousness. Touching awarenesses of different perspectives, be they Andromedans or our nearest neighbors, there is nothing outstanding about this. ___ is what this discussin board is for, is it not? ; ) I don't know for certain who I have had contact with, nor do I know where they are from. Wish I knew more, maybe I should study the material presented here. I was just asking what excercises and (mental) tools the Plejarans might suggest for relating to people who are much more advanced than ourselves, but not neccessarily altruistic. Where are boundaries appropriate and how do we develop them? Conversly, if boundaries are not needed, how can we maintain our sense of self in the face of a relatively focussed and expanded awareness. Anyway, I am not claiming any new or special powers of telepathy. About the only thing different here is a philosophy of telepathy, the very thing I am asking for help with. I don't mean to come across sounding like I know so much, really. I am just trying to learn in case I run into these folks again. Thanks for your help, Michael Love is always the way | ||
Matthew_deagle Member Post Number: 160 Registered: 08-2007 |
You have telepathic contact with the Andromedans Sitkaa certainly does not have telepathic contact with anyone outside of the Earth, since this would require spirit-telepathy. Non-spiritual electromagnetic energy is delimited by the speed of light, and diminishes by the inverse-square law; it is thus impossible to transmit a receivable telepathic signal from the region of the light-cone outside of approximately 3 lightseconds (at the distance of Andromeda, either the galaxy or the any of the stars in the constellation, one would be waiting a damned long time to get a reply, anyhow!). Only with pure-spiritual energy is it possible to do this, using the Gemuet as the receiver, which sends and receives signals transmitting at (10^7000)-times the gross-material speed of light. However, most terrestrials/Erdenmenschen are not capable of using spirit-telepathy, and thus most claims of such must be regarded as bunk, besides, further, the other declarations by the Plejaren stating that there are no witting telepathic extraterrestrial contactees on Earth at the moment other than Billy. Salome, - Matthew | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 10-2004 |
Well, that settles it. So, non-spiritual telepathy involves some kind energy transmission, then? Where does simple awareness fit into this scheme? Is it non-spiritual? If the brain (grey matter) is an antenna, picking up on mental energy patterns (the mind) generated primarily by our own sensory organs, is it possible for the brain to tune into energy patterns generated elsewhere? If so, then is this the non-spiritual telepathy to which you refer? If this is the case, then what is the converse: what is spiritual telepathy? Nada Brahma, Michael Post Script: The intitial question remains on the table: What practices or techniques might the Plejarans proscribe to learn to better relate to highly telepathic people? Love is always the way | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 643 Registered: 10-2000 |
My guess is that one shouldn't worry about it. After all, if they're "highly telepathic" they'll know what you're thinking and decide on their own if they want to...talk to you. Michael Horn | ||
Matthew_deagle Member Post Number: 161 Registered: 08-2007 |
Sitkaa, So, non-spiritual telepathy involves some kind energy transmission All telepathy involves energy-transmission, but spirit-telepathy transmits energy at a much faster speed than common telepathy. I recommend you do a search on this forum about this, as well as learn the High-German language and read Billy's books for yourself. Generally the difference has to do with the different rate at which pure-spiritual energy transmits, which is, as beforementioned, around 10^7000 times faster than the speed of light. Salome, - Matthew | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2004 |
I don't mind learning another language. Which version of High German should I learn? Do y'all have any suggestions on how to learn this language? Actually, I thought it was a simple question. Like Michael Horn, I had previously assumed that anyone who was highly telepathic was at least more altruistic than myself (not that high a standard, really), which would mean that I wouldn't have to concern myself with boundaries. I was quite surprised to meet someone who was both relatively 'enlightened' (for lack of a better common phrase), and unconcerned with the spiritual foundation of love that we all have in common. As a human being I can reconcile this given my experiences on Earth, but as an aspirant of 'wise understanding', it is abit antithetical to what I have thus far learned and observed. But then, there is much I don't understand. Do the Plejarans offer up any suggestions regarding the spectrum from awareness through perspective to communication? This is how I have seen telepathy, but feel free to enlighten me. Thanks for your help. Love is always the way | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1490 Registered: 12-1999 |
Sitkaa, You might check the spiritual terminology topic area regarding your questions concerning spiritual telepathy etc.. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/4224.html?1162333621 Scott | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 644 Registered: 10-2000 |
Sitkaa, Why do you assume that I assumed that they would be more altruistic simply because of being highly telepathic? Michael Horn | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2004 |
Apologies, Michael, I wondered if that assumption was abit too much. I can only speak for myself. I don't claim to be any more special than anyone else. I am only attempting to gain insight into this 'telepathy' thing. My own experiences with awareness, beyond what I would consider logically derived from the input of my physical senses, always has lead me to love expressed in some way or another. In fact, the best definition I have been able to come up with for 'Love' is awareneess-giving giving-awareness. The subjective and objective are merely a process of experiencing and learning through mirroring, wherein the relationship between the respective mirrors is the process of loving, which is percieved in our relativistic universe as light. Anyway, the definition is abit circular, I s'pose, but that is the best i have been able to do with this singular most important term that is bandied about so easily. Thus, in my philosophy, attempts at telepathy involve love. And hence the expectations of altruism. Love is always the way | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 10-2004 |
Perhaps a more basic question is this: Does telepathy exist? If so, is it possible for us to more consciously control it? If the answer is yes, by now caveats must already be springing up. For a little while, allow these caveats to recede. Love is always the way | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2004 |
Explain, in words and concepts that you have owned, what is this telepathy thing. For insight you might refer to the dictionary listed above: >http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/4224.html?1162333621 (I apologize for being didactic. I am just trying to jump start the conversation again.) Love is always the way | ||
Jacobus Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 07-2006 |
When I think of telepathy and all the rest, people like Derren Brown and David Blaine come to mind. Aren't they just brilliant? They are clearly demonstrating what we are really capable of, and it's soo exciting! I'm sure that it's a very simple affair, obey the laws of creation, become one with it, and anything is possible. It is just that bloody genetic alteration I suppose to be the biggest barrier, our indulgence in unnecessary actions, our lifestyles, almost everything we do go against creation. Now how do we expect to become what we are, if we don't act like we are, human? | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 10-2004 |
I don't personally know either Derren Brown or David Blaine, bu they appear to be people who are engaged in active deception, illusionists. That is not a type of person I personally put upon a pedastal for hero worship. If we are to choose someone for hero worship, let them not a purveyor of illusions, but of truth. How can we not act human? We can emulate lesser aspects of ourselves, becoming caricatures of our ontological processes, but we are always acting ourselves. By blaming the 'bloody genetic alteration', which may be truly at the root of much of our social-psychological ills, we are passing responsibility for our actions off on an externality. Regardless of how much of an effect this genetic alteration has had, we still have to take control of the situation if we are to move forward. That said, it is still a stretch to equate life directly with happiness. Love is always the way | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 403 Registered: 12-2004 |
Please get back to the topic of "Telepathic" Communication & "Telekinesis"... in relation to the Spiritual Teachings. | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 06-2008 |
meaningless Post for most, this post like most i have put on the forum is not written well but it is my most important post to date because it represents my suddenly understood feelings and awareness of the spiritual path i chose so long ago (to "choose" a path becomes easier with spiritual evolution and abilities as well as material intellect and the latter. Of course, one would have to acquire "clarity of Mind" to better interpret the energy transmissions from the akasha and storage banks too (most on earth have very limited contact with the akasha but "regular" contact with the storage banks). what really should be spoke about is 3 things that i want to touch on... 1 why i never say much information about my claimed knowledge 2 why i feel i must follow the spirit path right for me 3 what the heck is billy talking about? 1 i would love in some ways to share my knowledge which is mainly in contacting the akasha and storage banks while i always have known a lot about telepathy also, i feel i can't. this will be explained in section 2 of this post 2 even the spiritually advanced still do have their so-perceived struggle with cause and effect. i speak of my spiritform. without getting into details, i am using this section 2 as per FIGU's recommendation of catharsis. i know enough about my past to understand where my darkest fears and deepest desires really come from in this current lifetime. i know i have done some things i should be ashamed of and i do actually, surprisingly want to try and undo the reasoning behind their guise of harmlessness, but, it's now my struggle because it's been very difficult so far and i know that who i was is costing this forum a lot of fun and valuable information (info that has nothing to do with me or my spirit). i feel that this post will help me tremendously in future lifetimes because it not only helps me get my feelings out but it is reaching people that might understand it's general nature of intent. i don't know who i will become because i feel like i am disaffected now from billy's type of information, information i once craved early on (for the most part) in the life of my spirit and in this lifetime up until about a week ago. i feel sad and like i made a bad choice because it has always been difficult for me living here on earth even though by the book, i have been told my life is excellent, i have had no major family problems, peer pressure, lack of money, emotional distress, unhappiness, "restlessness" or antipathetic feelings. nonetheless, now is the time the cobra has struck, it's decided to catch up with me, my emotional self has been so strong so i know that this sadness and loneliness will not go away that easy but i hope it won't be years. when i say that i am lonely i mean even when i relate with people, i don't really feel like i am relating, but acting. beyond that and even worse, i am lonely in myself and the choices i have made to get me to the inevitable point of no return. it sounds and is sappy but i know that for me using language and angst in my communication with others will from now on be more occurring. i know that if i stay with feeling bad about what planet i am on, who i am with, what i am doing and feeling and other factors i will be drowning myself in self pity and loathing, not to mention i won't be able to live up to my potential in giving this earth a chance for peace and working in the regular job world also. the only hope and chance i might have to forgive myself for my decisions is to find a good woman that will understand me, that i can talk to and share my true-self with... of course, here i am bragging again  , i won't tell her for years about all my "craziness" and when i use strategic telepathy (hahahh) she will slowly accept it (according to her own understanding) and willingly choose to stay with me. i really care for women in spirit and being because a male's brain is the same just more testosterone in the eighth week allegedly which makes it then, male (current science fact of the earth). i think we are really male and female, both, no matter what we are or what someone tells us. this is also a concept from my past that i advocated in different ways. i am in fear writing this post, in fear that sadness will "break" me and make me weak, which is actually why i chose to die on the earth. i finally figured out my own personal and brain-touching past, i know why in my life there have been times where i embraced, idolized, glorified and delightfully/literally enjoyed being sad (i had no clue at the time that it was something that would be called "paranormal"). now, am i going to just be a dolt and let sadness take me again just when i was starting to get out of it? i might not be able to avoid it and i probably will, i don't think it's entirely a bad thing because i believe for some people being true to yourself will make you happier and unite you faster with creation (which has always been my goal since my time immemorial). so for me this is the first time i have been unhappy with the spiritual path i have chosen, i just hope that one day i will find my way back to the utopia i left...........so long ago... 3 this is absolutely against the commandments of creation as i know them but i ask that the moderator bend the rule because i am only explaining one basic part of the premise and how i have learned to Easily use it... (from figu spirit teachings section) Telepathy: (Greek = far feeling) Pure spiritual or material consciousness-related energetic-oscillation based means of understanding, transmission and communicationsprocess. i can explain with my knowledge what each one of these really means because billy speaks in metaphors that people like to hear because they think it sounds "cool" in a way that appeals to them. and that's what i will explain a little bit about... (meaning of word in definition, word is "communicationsprocess") (because of the way i want to approach my own personal catharsis, this explanation is extremely weak and will seem preposterous) what FIGU really means by this (communications process) is that this is how telepathy works on earth........... one form of communication is apparent and that is speech. if u tell some your going to go to the store and you want to ask them if they want/need anything you could say one of many things, one would be "hey, u want anything from the store?" and that is the way most ignorant earth humans talk. hint: a better way would be to say in a neutral and knowing tone of voice, "Mike, I'm traveling to the store now, what may i get you?" and that's one of the key secrets to earth based telepathy, now, i know i might get a message at the bottom of this post saying.... "FIGU didn't publish this and, therefore, it has no relevance to the aforementioned topic header" or something similar but..........it's true because i have literal wisdom of it. As is the case with Billy Meier and FIGU, it's up to you what you take on your spiritforms journey, and, what you choose to "throw to the dogs"... Choose wisely... From, Jay "if central truth was a reality at lowly levels of the human-psyche, evolution would not be possible." - JPM | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1513 Registered: 12-1999 |
Jay, I had to hold off posting your post until I read it a few times, because you seem to be going all over the place. To be honest you seem a bit confused and depressed at the same time. In addition, I don't know if you can speak for FIGU in regards to telepathy..it seems you are talking about intuition which is different than telepathy....You seem to allude to this knowledge that you know, but can't reveal, which creates the impression that you somehow feel superior to other earth humans...perhaps you are, but then again if this is indeed the case, what is the point?....of course I could be entirely wrong. Regards Scott | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 06-2008 |
the point is my catharsis and you are right it is all over the place because of this reason, but i sincerely thank you for posting it for me and FIGU. "if central truth was a reality at lowly levels of the human-psyche, evolution would not be possible." - JPM | ||
Adysor Member Post Number: 92 Registered: 03-2008 |
Hey Jay, First, I though Akasha and the storage banks were one and the same thing (correctly named: storage banks not Akasha) Second, you sometimes have to be skeptical about what your thoughts show you, it might not be as real as it is. And let's say that your past lives were exactly as you thought they were...darker I suppose since you are ashamed of...but this doesn't mean you have to concern yourself too much with it...you begin a new life and you will have to do your best again...no matter what you have done in the past and no matter what the situation is... So in the end, it doesn't help you very much to look in the past and to concern yourself about it... Can you prove me wrong? Adrian. | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 06-2008 |
You are absolutely right, but, this is what I am choosing to do with my life. I am consciously choosing this path for my spirit. Jay "if central truth was a reality at lowly levels of the human-psyche, evolution would not be possible." - JPM | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1514 Registered: 12-1999 |
Please let's get back to the topic | ||
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