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    Marbar Member Post Number: 96 Registered: 12-2009 |
The consequences if all the coral reefs died: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100325/ap_on_sc/us_world_without_corals | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1228 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Greetings All who Like Fish, Whether as pets, food, or to enjoy seeing them in the wild, the fish are a vital part of our ecosystem. All fish are in the "food-chain" for many other species as well = Bears, Geese, ducks, Eagles, Seals, Octopuses, and many others. Now comes some disturbing news from the USGS, as posted on the Care2 petition site, that 100-per-cent of ALL FRESH-WATER FISH ARE CONTAMINATED WITH MERCURY See at: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/286441618?z00m=19833933 [ "100 percent is great if we are talking about spelling tests, but it's alarming when it comes to pollution and toxic contaminants. A recent study by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) found that 100 percent of the 291 freshwater fish they tested contained mercury pollution. ["Protect our streams -- sign the petition for better regulation of mercury pollution >> [ "This strikingly high number sets a new standard for how concerned Americans should be about mercury in fish. Mercury can have devastating side effects on young children, but in high levels it can also affect older adults. Stop mercury contamination in streams. [ "Mercury pollution occurs almost entirely from air-born emissions, primarily burning coal. Florida has talked a lot about transitioning away from dirty coal, and now we have one more reason to shift to clean energy solutions." ] Let's feed the fish to all government bureaucrats and congresspersons. See if they will take the 'hint.' *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 418 Registered: 05-2008 |
"James Lovelock: Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change" http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/mar/29/james-lovelock-climate-change "He thinks only a catastrophic event would now persuade humanity to take the threat of climate change seriously enough, such as the collapse of a giant glacier in Antarctica, such as the Pine Island glacier, which would immediately push up sea level. "That would be the sort of event that would change public opinion," he said. "Or a return of the dust bowl in the mid-west. " | ||
Edmundo Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2008 |
Dr Enzo Boschi warns about possible danger of vulcanic eruption and tsunami wave in southern Italy: http://volcanism.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/marsili-seamount-tsunami-threat-for-southern-italy/ | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 209 Registered: 07-2009 |
He seems to get it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/mar/29/james-lovelock-climate-change | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 573 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Rod, The fact that fish have more Mercury is another artifact of humans but maybe not the way you previously thought. Between the land and magma is an asbestos and mercury serpentinian layer. When the area is subduted under by another land mass such as the Pacific Plate under the North American plate, this Mercury and asbestos are brought to the surface via extrusion. A creek or crack in the earth is a natural course of the fresh waterway and contains these naturally occuring substances which normally (when there are no Dams) fall into the deep abyss of the Oceans and are not within the food chain for a long contact time. If a child has a hard time concentrating or the grades have been falling rapidly it may be due to this insidious heavy metal... Chelated metals are okay, but metallic metals are pretty much carcinogenic or poison in some way... across the board. Mercury poisoning can cause mental problems to boot. There is another source of omega three's, it is a fish which feeds only on plankton by the filter method whose name is Barramundi or Asian Sea Bass and has no toxins because the toxins are taken out by the plankton's living processes. As to taking it out on the politicos, why shoot the messenger? USGS is a great artifact of government... Bottom line; Dams may cause Mercury concentration by not allowing the natural flow causing perterbations in the creeks sedimentation or accretion patterns which are in themselves products of overpopulation. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1229 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hi Randy, It would be interesting to know if such high levels of mercury appeared in all the fish more more than 100-years ago. I'ld be willing to bet: not hardly a trace would be found in the fishes in the wilderness of Earth in those times. Could you provide reference to the "layers of asbestos and mercury in the Earth"? My understanding is that commercial production of mercury must mostly be mined where it is bound-up in ores. Where it IS bound-up, it will not migrate where it is undisturbed. To quote one source: ["The natural levels of mercury in the Earth’s crust vary from place to place, but average about 50 mg per tonne of rock. Mercury is mined when present in cinnabar ores, which generally contain about 10 kg per tonne of rock."] ["Mercury is also present at very low levels throughout the biosphere. Thus, mercury absorbed by ancient plants may account for its presence in fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas."] ---Source: http://www.greenfacts.org/en/mercury/l-2/mercury-5.htm As to Asbestos found in Nature, when in the native forms it neither migrates nor contaminates in the undisturbed state. The most common form is Serpentine (Chrysotile). ... ["Serpentine has the formula (Mg)2–3(Si)2O5(OH)4, is green and sometimes white, and occurs only in metamorphic rocks. Chrysotile is the dominant form of asbestos by far, and in the home it is generally harmless although asbestos workers must beware of lung disease due to chronic overexposure to the fine airborne fibers of powdered asbestos. A specimen like this is completely benign."] ---Source: http://geology.about.com/od/minerals/ig/silicates/minpicchrysotile.htm Even more stable sources of asbestos in nature: The others normally occur in other crystal forms, and they are in the amphibole group, discussed here: http://geology.about.com/od/nutshells/a/asbestosnuts.htm By the way, did you know that the burning of coal in the power plants also releases radioactivity into the atmosphere? It's no wonder cancers are so widespread, and other diseases are becoming more prevalent. The World is in even greater danger from the impending collapse of oil production. The "peak-oil" has been fraudulently reported to the world. So, rather than the "50-years or so," we are seeing loss of oil production already start to fall-off now. Think of: no fuel to warm homes in northern winters, no fuel for airplanes, no fuels for transportation of foods, and worse to come within only 5 to 10 years. Add this in with an impending collapse of the food production, and Billions of Humans might die from starvation. See the complete story from "The Ecologist" at this link: http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/437079/how_a_22yearold_student_uncovered_peak_oil_fraud.html Also read this conversation between Billy and Ptaah = Billy Yes, then something can be expected. Here I have another question concerning the petroleum extraction: How much time do we have to calculate until the petroleum extraction with respect to the worldwide reserves is exceeded? Ptaah It has already been exceeded for quite some time, which, however, is concealed by the petroleum producing states and by groups of companies. See complete quote here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_469 . . . . . . (Faithfully translated into English language by José Barreto Silva) Billy has much more to say on this in the contact note. Peace *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1732 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Michael.... Lovelock, hit the nail on the head, there....eh?? The guy is 90! Truly, has much experience, there! He is just not the average Wise Man around there corner, eh....? Edward. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 202 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Rod, just wanted to add to your post  My dad told me about a mercury based seed treatment he used on his crops in the '50's. There were no warnings on the container (you know there was a time that mercury was not considered harmful). So the seed was rolled into this concoction and planted. This may well be where a lot of the run off is coming from. Also other items which are full of mercury - light bulbs, auxiliary switches on vehicles, mercury amalgam fillings. Of course most of these go to dumps and landfills and leach into the ground. We have no clue as to what else is buryied underground. Not only is asbestos used in plumbing and heating, but up until the early '80's it was used as an ingredient in ceiling stipple. "How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 576 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Rod, More people equals more need for fresh water. Mercury is heavy so it is affected by gravity. Making a dam, solving the need for more fresh water... thereby restricting natural flow concentrates heavy metals. One hundred years ago we had fewer dams and the Mercury fell to the ocean depths with little contact time. Sepentine (asbestos ore) layers created by subduction zones are to be found in any geology book. Grinding up ore looking for other precious metals such as Gold and Platinum are another reason for increased levels. Mercury was used in the early 1900's for amalgamating gold. So... yeah, that's part of the increase in Mercury. Another is the compounds that Mercury latches onto. As to Mercury with Asbestos... Mercury forms Mecuric Oxide which comes from high vapor pressures driven by magma venting and precipitates out on cooler rocks on the surface. The Asbestos ore (Serpentine) is extruded and opens a heated vent for these vapor pressures to exude. They are usually in a creek or crack and dams are often in a rift valley caused by a subduction. The more the Earth moves and quakes the more venting goes on. The more we build and stress the structure of the Earth the more earthquakes etc etc etc... Overpopulation, again being a primary cause. | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 239 Registered: 10-2004 |
I have a question. Perhaps y'all can help with it. I am still (slowly) working my way through Billy Meier's previous answers to question put to him. On this page: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/1871.html?1261993475 Billy and Ptaah are conversing about life. Here is an excerpt: "Ptaah That is correct: When humans on a planet proliferate excessively, nature and life autonomously interfere, which leads to the forced curbing of surplus life forms. Such a curbing and elimination of excess life forms, in this case human beings, ensues first and foremost through epidemics. However, the same thing also happens because life forms, human beings once again, become frail, if not to say incapable of living, due to their bodies, organs and immune system becoming then too weak. Furthermore, nature and life also retaliate against excesses in human beings through catastrophes by way of the elements of nature, and other things." My question is this: How do diverse sets of animal and plant life forms, species level perspectives, and even planetary perspectives coalesce into a single intention of culling humans (or any other decision it might make, for that matter)? Such a planetary consciousness is reminiscent of Cameron's Avatar. What are the best ways to communicate with these perspectives? Love is always the way | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 436 Registered: 06-2006 |
It is a consequence, rather than an intention. It happens naturally as a 'cause and effect' process. Robyn | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 153 Registered: 02-2009 |
People Eat Fish That Eat Fish That Eat Plastic http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/health/People-Eat-Fish-That-Eat-Fish-That-Eat-Plastic-83937442.html "If tuna is eating a lot of lanternfish, it is indirectly ingesting the plastic that might be in the lanternfish's stomach" What goes around comes around... It is not your thought or my thought, it is thought -J.K. | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 220 Registered: 07-2009 |
No surprise those plastics and toxins are mostly all in the Northern Hemisphere oceans. | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 244 Registered: 10-2004 |
Here's a link to a recent video, "The Call of Life", which relates overpop to our current enviro destruction. I haven't watched the full length of it yet, but the trailer looks pretty good. http://www.speciesalliance.org/video.php Love is always the way | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 102 Registered: 12-2009 |
6.9 magnitude earthquake striked Baja California: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_baja_earthquake | ||
Johnboy Member Post Number: 32 Registered: 07-2008 |
Marbar, That earthquake was actually a 7.2 and was a very long rupture with severe shaking along both sides of the fault line for about 70 kilometers. Even though it was a sparsely populated area of the Baja peninsula, it was along the fault line system which runs the length of California. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 220 Registered: 07-2009 |
I often receive useless emails from one particular list but this one seems to have made a good point. I think that Randy Arena may also be able to comment on it, reproduced below as I received it: "IDIOTS CAUSE EARTHQUAKE EPICENTER OF BAJA EARTHQUAKE CENTERED AT SEMPRA'S CERRO PRIETA GEOTHERMAL ELECTRIC GENERATING PLANT IN BAJA where they have drilled over 150 geothermal wells, some of them over 3 miles deep, into which they pump millions of gallons of waste sewage treatment plant water at HIGH PRESSURE. they are responsible for these earthquakes. everyone knows if you pump liquid down a well hole at high pressure, you cause earthquakes. they are suppressing the information now. you just need the latitude and longitude of the two places,, epicenter of 7.2 quake, location of geothermal field of the cerro prieta geothermal electric generating station, 32.128N by 115.303W." | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 221 Registered: 07-2009 |
And here's another environmental disaster that has its roots in overpopulation: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100404/ap_on_re_as/as_un_central_asia | ||
Johnboy Member Post Number: 33 Registered: 07-2008 |
Michael, You are right about the earthquake and plant location. The fault line ruptured for about 70 kilometers north/northwest of the epicenter. The plant you mentioned is right in the middle of the rupture zone. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 578 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi... It is interesting to note: the ring of fire which encircles the Pacific Ocean has had a recent occurrence of counter clockwise quakes epicenters in Japan, Sumatra, Venato Islands, Chili, Haiti and now Los Angeles and that the ring has not budged too much in Northern California/ Oregon region. This could be due to the fact lubricating oil remains within the fault line in this area... I don't know. | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 244 Registered: 01-2009 |
Greetings forum members, Regarding Michael's two post above. Drilling holes on fault lines is pretty dumb. Firstly you weaken the soil/rock around the hole due to vibrations etc. Also if there is a earthquake on the fault line then it become worse due to the weakened soil/rock. Plus by drilling holes in fault lines you could start a earthquake, or start the labour pains for an earthquake. Then pumping in high pressure water is just dumber. The soil/rock could soak up the water, also the water would become heavy underground, thus pushing pressure on the edge of the fault line. As this water is from waste sewage treatment plants I cannot help but think that there is a problem with finding somewhere to put the excessive amounts of waste due to once again, overpopulation. Michael's second post, Well the big wigs continue to argue over who has more rights to water but the problem never gets solved. By the time they do come to some agreement, if any, there will be no problem to solve because there will be no more water left, or very little. Once again overpopulation is the root cause, also a hint of greed here for the consumption/ manufacture of cotton. Just my thoughts Cheers Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 246 Registered: 01-2009 |
Speaking of water shortages Drought in southern China http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/7560301/Drought-in-southern-China.html Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net |
