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Gib_niner
Member
Post Number: 103
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:28 pm: | 
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Just on the WWIII side of things,
Isn't there mention in 251 that before it kicks of...that the aging gene itself will be discovered.
As it happens some new developments in that respect - fairly recently - dont recall any mention of it yet on the forum..
http://www.body1.com/news/index.cfm/1/490
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6304FC20100401
Giorraíonn beirt bóthar,
Sean.
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Kingman
Member
Post Number: 799
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 01:56 am: |
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Yes of course, were paranoid. Thank you for pointing that out. Now it's obvious who has an agenda.
Have a nice day Hunter.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Marbar
Member
Post Number: 103
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 03:48 am: |
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Protesters in Thailand will not talk with government after 20 people were killed during the clash: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36362013/ns/world_news-asiapacific// |
Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 449
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 05:57 am: |
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"Discussions on current events that are changing earth and humanity in the light of the information passed on through FIGU and the Plejarens"
As written at the beginning of this topic
Robyn |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 421
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 03:59 am: |
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Hunter,
You're pushing/proselytizing that "Restore America, under God"(nonsense) on humans in this forum is misguided and misjudged.
If so, you haven't understood a word of Billy Meier's and really, you should take your mission elsewhere. |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 308
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 11:40 am: |
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Shawn/Kingman,
What I meant by that is that you seem hypocritical in your distrust. Obama swore an oath on a Bible before he took office - and you empowered him with your vote. Yet if another political group mentions God, and offers even more protection for free thought under the law, you scream "Look out for those religious fanatics!"
Your viewpoint is "slightly" irrational.
And I have no agenda, my friend, other than uncovering the truth. I want truth, reason and logic to prevail, which is why the socialism of the Democrats and the fascism of Republicans must fail.
Unconstitutional taxation must end. The taxation on incomes, wages, salaries and our labor must end. If you say "I want to keep what I worked for and earned" - the government will threaten to initiate force against you. If you refuse to comply and say "I have a right to keep what I worked for" they will send demanding letters. If you ignore them, eventually a case will be filed against you in court. If you refuse to go, a warrant will be issued for your arrest and armed men will be sent to your home. If you resist them and fight back to defend yourself, they can kill you.
That is taking money by threat of force, or force if the threat isn't sufficient. That is theft. Taxation is theft.
And I say it goes against the Creational laws:
7. You shall not rob and expropriate.
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10. You shall not greedily covet material wealth and your neighbor's possessions.
The same with our money system. Choosing a currency is a peaceful, honest, voluntary activity. Government should not be compelling us to use worthless fiat dollars as money. We should have the freedom to choose.
So we're going to have to learn to deal with other via persuasion and non-violence. I'm tired of people threatening to send armed men to my home if I don't want to pay for their wars or other machinations. |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 309
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 11:47 am: |
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Earthling,
Your statement is also irrational. I'm not pushing anything on anyone. I'm merely telling you what is happening. The corporate government will soon be completely without any power to act, if the plan goes through. Since the new government will not be initiating force, fraud or coercion against anyone, unlike the current corporate government, again, they won't be "pushing" anyone.
All the "pushing" is being done by our present government. And it has gone on long enough.
The current government also does the things "under God" that you hypocritically attack the new government for. My advice to you: Get over it. As I've said, I disagree with that also, but it can be worked out later. The most pressing thing now is to stop World War 3. In case you haven't been keeping up with current events, the world isn't in great shape.
As far as what Obama is doing, if you want the truth about Obama, here you go:
http://original.antiwar.com/bock/2010/04/08/how-brainy-is-obama |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 423
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 04:03 pm: |
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Hunter, that proposal doesn't stand a chance & is too over the top to have any chance of success, and so is not realistic at this point in time.
I like Obama, even as I find faults, things I don't like or agree with; as your suggested reading also points out. Though, despite that imo, he's rational, intelligent, reasonable, logical, reasoning, a uniter not divider ... and he is no George Bush, despite fashionable smear talking points, that he is.
Vote for Ron Paul. He has a better chance than that proposal. But sadly, Ron doesn't have much of a chance either. |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 442
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 04:56 pm: |
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Obama speaks on religion. Only 5 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE
If anyone cares to do some history research ..... The Wiemar Republic under Paul Von Hindenburg.
Economy goes bust, unemployment & discontent reach all time high's, things look grim but never fear for god's chosen ones the guardian angels (wearing brown shirts) will come riding into town on their pure white steeds ready to defend the nation, impose righteous godocracy, remove the pretender to the throne then ...... lets see if folks are ready for plan b.
Real target = dismantling the constitution.
Convenient fall guy = President Obama.
Cheers.
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Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 104
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 06:52 pm: |
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maybe this article carries any truth?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-to-prolong-global-financial-recession-for-another-year.html
"This year’s confab will focus around prolonging the global financial recession and creating more economic woe in order to provide the pretext for more regulation in pursuit of world economic governance, according to Jim Tucker’s sources.
“Bilderberg hopes to keep the global recession going for at least a year, according to an international financial consultant who deals personally with many of them. This is because, among several reasons, Bilderberg still hopes to create a global “treasury department” under the United Nations. Bilderberg first undertook this mission at its meeting last spring in Greece, but the effort was blocked by nationalists in Europe and the United States. “Nationalists” (a dirty word in Bilderberg) objected to surrendering sovereignty to the UN,” writes Tucker."
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 335
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 01:20 am: |
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Peace in wisdom be with you,
Hunter,
Don't you think, that there is a substantial disbalance in your approach of this issue, that the immediate material side/materialistic considerations are rather having the upper hand?
In your previous entries, you forcefully underlined the weakening of the dollar, allegedly caused/due to the costs of the 'universal health care' of president Obama and other social projects paid with 'taxpayers' money'/savings in opposition to the efforts of this president and the current US administration to avoid and/or postpone World War 3.
Question: what is more important/should weigh more here - a stronger dollar and taxpayers' money or a world without World War 3?
Did one really, objectively, neutrally think about the meaning/consequences of a worldwide war in this era of nuclear and other such alike weapons?
And what would a strong dollar and the taxpayers' s money be worth in a context of World War 3?
This time, you quoted the Creational Laws (from 'Dekalog/Dodekalog', i guess) to strengthen your stance/rejection/resistance against taxes (and, by extension, the current president and administration of your country, i guess), for, in your view, "taxation is theft" and you "want to keep what you worked for and earned" - hence, your money: material goods, again - , whereas the same Creational Laws (in 'OM', 'Goblet of Truth', other works of Eduard...) as well as the unformal, practical, daily life - so to speak - advice and recommendations (and concrete/effective practice) of Eduard stress the need to respect/uphold/follow the valid laws of one's country, of the place, where one happens to live; to avoid unnecessary twist/struggle/unrest; to strive for/to achieve harmony, humanness, true spirituality, togetherness/solidarity (be helpful; share with your fellow humans; free yourself from material enslavement: live and help to live)...
- In the meanwhile: Thursday, 8 April 2010
US and Russian leaders hail nuclear arms treaty
"US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev, have signed a landmark nuclear arms treaty in the Czech capital, Prague."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8607985.stm
- And today: Mon, Apr 12 2010
WASHINGTON DC 12-13 Apr 2010 President Barak Obama hosts nuclear security summit
http://www.newsahead.com/preview/2010/04/12/washington-dc-12-13-apr-2010-president-barak-obama-hosts-nuclear-security-summit/index.php
Salome. |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 800
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 01:18 am: |
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Hi Hunter,
The difference between the oath Obama takes and the God insertions in this RAP document is choice. Obama is doing what all Presidents do when sworn in. This RAP document chooses to do this. So your idea that I'm hypocritical, as well as irrational, are weak attempts at attacking my position. Your idea that Obama is this terrible problem destroying our country is laughable and says something about your ability to see through things.
Our world is headed towards radical change, the writing is on the wall, and plans such as this RAP will only worsen the future if it were to become fulfilled. How about focusing on the real problem, overpopulation, and let your ill advised revolutionary friends dissolve into the background. Luckily we have more rational people running our country and are now beginning to move towards some solutions. If you think Obama's the problem, you'll never be able to see clearly. Time to get a clue my friend, for time is short if we begin to all think like those from the RAP document.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 232
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 08:27 am: |
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A slightly different topic and one that is strangely refreshing:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2928120/Pope-arrest-plot.html |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 03:35 pm: |
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My understanding about our countries of origin esp America is that we were never considered wholesome and pure according to the Contact Notes, etc.(remember the American Indians, African Americans, women & childen, WW1, WW2, etc) We've all have been feed illusions about the "good ole days" when America was so wholesome, pure and good. I think we'll all agree that was false fantasies because if we were wholesome, pure, etc. Why does it take 7 prophets to teach us all about the truth, spirit and life??? My point is groups like Restore America, Tea parties, etc are based on false illusions and false beliefs. If these groups would admit our faults of the past and accept the fact we all were lied too...Apollo 13; Roswell, etc then maybe I would trust their intentions. All countries need to consider: Restart, Reshape, Rebuilt especially from within. Personally, I would not want to restore anything about America's past. I only hope we can all learn from it. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 236
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 05:20 pm: |
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Sad but true reasons why the pendulum of cause and effect returns upon us here in the U.S. like a wrecking ball:
The page that lists the 35 U.S. backed coups in the past 55 years is here: http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa01.html
And the page that lists the158 U.S. interventions in the past 56 years: http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa02.html
The main page for this information can be found here: http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa.html |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 310
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 07:59 pm: |
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Shawn,
The Restore America plan isn't going away. It has already been accepted by all 50 governors and the republic is effectively restored. More changes will be coming in the near future.
Overpopulation is a problem indeed - but Obama hasn't mentioned it - nor will he.
The Bilderbergers would certainly like to deal with overpopulation - if you consider murdering billions of people in cold blood a solution.
As far as the oath Obama takes - that isn't the only aspect, my friend. Again, you selectively choose what you want to see. How about the fact that he chose and attended a Christian church on Easter. He didn't have to do that, yet he did. How about the fact that the 10 commandments remain on the wall in the Supreme Court. Has Obama or any Democrat even suggested they be taken down? Again, you are being very selective.
Freedom of religion - or freedom not to have a relgion - will not change under the Restore America plan. So, fears of that one aspect of the plan are unfounded. |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 311
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 08:03 pm: |
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Earthly,
I do like Ron Paul and I did vote for him in 2008. He's not perfect - but then no candidate is. But at least he wanted to bring all the troops home. As far as the Restore America plan - it is already being implemented. All 50 governors have agreed to it and the military will enforce it.
And I disagree with you on Obama. He is clearly not rational - not at all. He's just a puppet for the Bilderbergers. He will not change U.S. foreign policy, even after claiming he wanted to end the wars. But shortly he won't be making those decisions, so all is not lost. |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 221
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 08:04 pm: |
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I'm amazed that some people here still think Obama's the problem in the US after what Billy had said about him. He's doing the best he can. |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 312
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 08:10 pm: |
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Phenix,
You ask: Question: what is more important/should weigh more here - a stronger dollar and taxpayers' money or a world without World War 3?
I would say they are very closely linked. I don't think it's a coincidence that World War 2 started in the midst of a severe depression.
When fraudulent economies based on high taxation, tyrannical controls, government debt, and fiat currencies collapse, politicians start looking for ways to divert public attention away from their failings. Foreign enemies unfortunately can make for easy scapegoats.
As a lesser example, look at Bill Clinton and the missiles he fired abroad after the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke. An unethical politician has no problem with bombing foreigners to divert attention away from his own failings. |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 313
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 08:18 pm: |
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Msmichelle,
I do agree with you on that point. The "restore" simply refers to restoring the original intent of the Constitution - which is to say securing liberty. But there was no "perfect time" in America when all was well in good. Utopia is not an option for us at this point.
I think the point people are missing is that the Restore America plan reveals the fraud that has taken place all over the world with the Bilderberg/Illuminati/Rothchilds/etc. transforming countries into corporations through which they control and profit from everything.
That is another huge benefit in the Restore America plan - we are cutting off their profits in this country. They were trading the birth certificates of every American in the securities markets. Every "loan" in this country was a fraud. Your signature created the funds - and through fractional reserve lending they were able to instantly multiply it. No federal reserve banks loans a penny of their own money to anyone. And then they trade your notes for even more profit in the securities markets.
All of that will soon end and we can get back to an honest economy. |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 314
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 08:23 pm: |
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Darren,
Obama may be better than Bush, but then most every President could be said to be better than Bush. |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 801
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 09:19 pm: |
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Hunter,
All 50 state governors signed this document? Please provide the proof of this.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Syn
Member
Post Number: 266
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 09:53 pm: |
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please id love to see this.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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