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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 253
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 05:07 am: | 
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The Plejaren are not going to help us except in the way they have been doing so for the past decades. By giving us information only through Eduard. The Plejaren has directives they must comply to when they visit/make contact with persons on a planet which are lower, in our case much lower, in spiritual development.
Our problems are our responsibility not theirs. You have to remember that they have their own lives to live too. They still have their on evolution to take responsibility for.
All the wealth of prophesies, warnings and information Eduard has given us from the Plejaren should be enough for us earth humans to start working on and making our planet and lives better. It is not Eduard's or the Plejaren's fault that the earth human is illogical and blind to the information and does not do anything about it.
If the Plejaren was to land in public today there possibly could be the following scenarios.
1, Persons would think either they are sent from a god or even demons sent from satan
2, The Military would try and kill them and steal their beamships.
3, Persons would suffer from the Plejaren's high consciousness frequency because of their higher evolution.
4, Persons would start to panic, due to the negative nonsense in our world about visitors from space.
5, Who knows what else could happen
We as a human race on earth must all come together and work out our problems, which means we have to stop our hatred for persons of a different skin colour or where they live on the planet. Also our greed and ego's need to be a thing of the past and not forgetting one big problem we have here, overpopulation, as well as religions. We also need to stop voting in men into positions of power who will lead the gullible earth humans into more ruin, debt, poverty and wars. We need to place credible persons into positions of power who are not greedy, selfish, want more power, war hungry, interested in them selves.
Our lives and the way we choose to live on this planet individually and as a whole is our responsibility. No one is going to come and give us a hand. We have to work through this by ourselves.
How would we learn anything if the Plejaren came down here and sorted our problems for us. We would not learn and would then fall back into the state we are in now. If, when you was at school your teacher or class mate did you work for you, would you have learnt anything? We can only learn by doing things ourselves and not letting others do it for us.
Salome
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1142
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 03:50 pm: |
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Dear all,
Suv, you wrote, "They already offered to help and was rejected by the U.S. Government. That is without anybody asking."
Actually, this approach, which, understandably, never made it very far up the chain of command, was an initiative of Lee Elders. (I can't recall the source of that info.)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/ET.to.USA.1979.htm
And Mahigitam (and all others here):
PLEASE - regarding these unattributed and unofficial/unauthorised English translations which constantly appear here on this official FIGU forum - some of these sound pretty weird (bad/wrong) but they are unaccompanied by the original German language, and that means that if they are to be checked, my job becomes needlessly time/effort consuming.
PLEASE everybody - there was once a requirement on this forum that translated quotes like this should be accompanied with the original. For the sake of scotching runaway misunderstandings, can we try harder to do this please? I do think it's only logical to understand that it is important for future corrections, even if none of the forum moderators agree with me.
Thank you very much.
Salome,
Dyson |
Thomas
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Post Number: 913
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 05:49 pm: |
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Hi Dyson, when did it become your job officially?=A0 Just curious...
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1144
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 10:25 pm: |
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Dear Thomas,
Sorry? When did what become my job officially?
Or am I missing a joke?
Cheers!
Dyson |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 177
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 10:45 pm: |
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i agree with you dyson, we should also be presenting the original german manuscript along with our own english translation..
The last post of mine was taken from futureofmankind.co.uk translated by Benjamin Stevens..atleast i would have mentioned this..
next time, it wont happen again.. salome
http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_248
Until you know yourself, just shut your mouth - mahigitam..
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1240
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 11:50 pm: |
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Hello and Best Greetings All
Stephen, Your post is right to the point, to be sure. You know though, reading so many different posts on this Forum, I am reminded of an old saying --- "preaching to the choir."
Somehow there must be a way to open eyes and ears of the population of Earth to the realities and Wisdom brought from the Plejaren, and so eloquently spoken be Billy. How this could be done without 'Missionizing' eludes us.
Of certainty is the Gross Over-Population must be grasped as the number-one issue on Earth. As a thought, from the example of 'advertising' which is repetition of a single idea, over and over. ...
But, of course, ads of any sort cost money. The trick will be to get someone to do advertising for us on specific issues. Well then, how did the "green movement" take-off with such spectacular effect? Money could be made by promoting "green ideas" and 'green products.' So greed got behind the movement. Could this work to curb the rampant birth-rate? Possibilities need some 'brainstorms' here.
Peace
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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 254
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 05:59 am: |
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Greetings Rod
Pushing my luck here posting out of topic, so I will say this once and then we can all get back to the topic.
Indeed, how can we spread the word without missionizing. I do not have this answer in its completeness. However we can make available the information when and where possible. Without using force persons must be allowed to stumble upon the information, which is growing on the internet.
Governments, Groups, and Persons have been contacted about the overpopulation problem and what are they doing about it. Nothing much. Australia has made the first big step but other countries still wish to push this issue to the side. By doing so they do not solve the problem or make it go away. What they do is allow the problem to continue and while it continues it gets worse.
With all the nonsense on the internet about "ET's", overpopulation reduction being some big plan by elites and all the rest of the distracting crap. It is a tough task to bring light and knowledge to the earth human. Anything he doesnt understand or anything that threatens his way of life or the way he thinks, he pushes away and attacks.
No wonder it is going to take 800 years for the spirit teaching to take a firm hold on earth
Salome
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Gib_niner
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Post Number: 106
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2010 - 07:05 pm: |
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hi j-rod and stephen,
ok now that you are bringing up the point of brain-storming - for what its worth -
Actually I was thinking of a couple of ideas revolving around the use of these new mobile devices.
( i was skeptical before getting one (speaking now of the itouch) though now i must say i am converted, these things are amazing - there is lots that one can do with them - for one thing - having a whole library in your back pocket!, and also esp. good for reading meier info. on the go, all those pages of text files can be transfered into it for more easy reading - much easier/better to read as opposed to computer screens )
- but anyway, my main idea - just something i came across that might be interesting to at least have a look at.
so therefore - one main idea that is maybe ok-ish or passable, and then the other, well i have no idea if its a good or a much-less-than good one (ie.e that is to say - a crap one Lol) - yet maybe i'll offer it up regardless in order for the brain-storming process itself to unfold..you know that kind of way.
and also think i will post them in the 'new ideas to help mission section' - so let the reader be redirected...
Giorraíonn beirt bóthar,
Sean.
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1242
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 08:15 pm: |
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*****
Meine lieben Freunde -- Stephen, Dyson, Thomas, Mahigitam, & Gib, & Für alle Denkenden Menschen:
We have defined a problem which is at the base of 'The Silent Revolution of Truth."
Billy and the Plejaren give us 'signposts', show a road into a greater light. What is on the signs? ...
1) What Revolution?
2) What Truth?
3) How 'Silent' must we all be?
WE are given 'signposts' to find our own path, both as individuals and as a 'Social Order' to solve the problems looming before us. The FIRST of these is the massive and Gross Over-Population. FROM this single one problem does arise all other impending 'disasters' to come upon Earth. This is the essential Self-Responsibility.
The Lesson - find what power is holding back the Human race - by finding this 'roadblock', then to tear it down. Greater power invested in the 'block'? Enlist (speak with, bring forth), more Humans among us on Gaia which will stand up for the Truth of the Spirit. This is Truth: That All Human Beings are 'Carriers of the Laws of Creation.' All Humans are OMEDAM. All are Freeform Spirit come forth forth from Creation for the Revolution of Truth among all which have sentience, all which have eyes to see, ears to hear, Intelligence to understand, and the courage to stand-up and come forth. The Time grows short on Gaia.
( Yes, I will say it: Gaia - Alive and Conscious as much as are we Humans. Every Planet and Star emits a unique tone. - Together, they all sing together, commune together, in Harmony together do the 'heavens' sing.)
Lest those which in their greed for power, in their lust for 'all that glitters', those that will rape Gaia- kill her Forests, subdue the Oceans, steal the children into slavery, trample the disenfranchised under the Boot, and bring the 'very foundation-stones of life' to bear upon the rest of Humanity --- We MUST now stand up , Speak the Truth, Bring the Revolution to life -- Silence no more.
There is the "hope" of Truth spreading forth within the next "800-years." I must ask = Where does it begin?
When does the Revolution Begin? Would "NOW" be sufficient?
I do now Stand-up. Who else will stand-up?
Saalome Gam Naan Ben Uurda, Gan Njjber Asaala Hesporoona
Ein neuer Auftrag im Kosmos
Truly, In Peace -- Salome
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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1151
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 10:07 pm: |
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Dear Rod,
Thanks for that. :-)
First, it's not "silent", it's "stille".
It just sort of stuck, after I initially ("unofficially") translated "stille" into "silent" (schweigend), because it seemed the second most obvious hyponym off the rack (after "still", of course, which doesn't fit at all) and it also seemed fairly consistent with my grasp of the mission, etc. But, in some contexts, "stille" can also legitimately be rendered as "quiet" (Ruhe), "calm" (Regungslosigkeit) or even "secret" (Heimlichkeit). In fact, as we now know, the professional translator of KdW chose "quiet" and - as far as I know - Billy and Co. have not objected to that, so "quiet" I guess it is, not "silent". I would have thought, then, that it pretty straightforwardly would have been "Die ruhige Revolution der Wahrheit", but I suppose that would have led to, "The Calm Revolution of Truth."
(ARG!! Learn German!! :-/ You think I'M bad? You just WAIT until you hear what PTAAH has to say about English at the 487th contact on Billy's last birthday!)
(For now, at least, it's "quiet" ... but recall "Gebote", and its various official English translations over the years.)
"Quiet" naturally differentiates this revolution from all those stupid, violent, bloody revolutions and revolutionaries which Billy's teachings so unambiguously condemn. Ours is a revolution of consciousness, as the truth is revealed one last time and eventually understood and accepted. The central plank of the mission's platform is that this revolution is a calm internal one which takes place deep inside the individual. As we individuals - one at a time - revolutionise our own thinking and then our own lives, consistent with the truth in all things, social, political, historical, scientific and spiritual, then the collective (ie, society) of which we all form a tiny part, will change all by itself, in the same way that a ship will just naturally list to starboard if all the passengers individually decide to walk to that side to look at some particular sight. It will just happen, all by itself, as a consequence of the natural law of cause and effect. But it won't happen overnight and it won't be without much pain either, I'm sorry to say, because the old order must be destroyed in order for the new order to arise, nourished with ash.
A new superpower is emerging called the grass roots.
"Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number,
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you -
Ye are many - they are few." - Shelly
Salome,
Dyson |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 452
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2010 - 05:07 am: |
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Hi Dyson,
Maybe Cladena was thinking of Ghandi's quiet revolution and this concept ended up expressed as stille.
Cheers.
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 253
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2010 - 06:43 am: |
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Please, I feel I must understand this absolutely clearly.
The Plejarens are a very advanced - even somewhat transcendent - people, who occupy a planet not so far from where we are in galactic terms. Our Earth is located in the vicinity of the heart of this spiritually advanced empire. They are disconcertingly concerned with the simple problem that we may blow ourselves to smithereens so finally that we affect the larger galaxy, and through as yet unsuspected relational laws, perhaps the universe as well. It sounds like par for the course.
If any place in the universe needs to figure out love, this could be ground central.
So the Plejarens sit around and meditate everyday or so, and otherwise gardening and leading a generally pretty boring life. Some of the Plejaren people incarnate on this bluntly stupid Earth for a few lifetimes as a way to deviate from their otherwise relatively placid existence. But now that we have devised nuclear options, and worse, we are no longer just children playing with toys.
The Plejarens are just as concerned that as we learn the universal laws we will spread our understanding of them out into the cultural universe through the ideological impact of our religious beliefs, which not only might not be either so pleasant nor so pretty, and might result in some even more fundamental self-destructive behavior by our burgeoning society.
So the Plejarens meditate on this problem, what to do about our weird little world, and generally wonder to themselves about how our incredibly stupid mass suicide will affect them. Perhaps not much, they mostly think.
Well, they might have to move their solar system around to different parts of the universe, or if they don't want to take this somewhat drastic step, they might have to evacuate their planet and live on huge spaceships for the next eternity.
But for them, the decision of how to deal with us is abit of a bother. Following their own universal laws will most likely result in our planetary suicide, which is the antithesis of what they want.
It seems to me, common sense would be to introduce a new electronically advanced culture to this planet. But who would devise it? Some power-hungry, fear mongering group, or some people with abit more depth and wisdom? If it were written in open source code, then there would be no question.
And thus it is our physical vibes that still keep us anchored in our bluntly stupid conundrum of a planet. Are there universal laws which justify the raising of the vibe of a planet? I guess we shall see.
Love is always the way
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Scott
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Post Number: 1974
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2010 - 07:44 am: |
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Sitkaa,
Which Plejarens have reincarnated on earth? My understanding is only Lyrian and Vegan Spirit forms from which the Plejarens came from have reincarnated on this planet. I could be wrong, but that is how I understand it.
Scott |
Sitkaa
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Post Number: 254
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2010 - 07:54 am: |
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My apologies, I wasn't referring as much to just the Plejarens as to humanity's lineage. Exactly from what advanced societies these people come, whether this planet or that, I have not been so concerned.
Thanks for the correction.
: )
Love is always the way
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 257
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 23, 2010 - 07:10 pm: |
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It does kinda feel like Planet Earth is an alien tragicomedy.
Love is always the way
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Sitkaa
Member
Post Number: 259
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 11:17 am: |
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Does anyone here think that Earth is predestined to self-destruction? Or that Planet Earth is a manipulated alien play? Just to be completely clear, I don't. We live an open-ended storyline, one which we can mold ourselves.
That said, when you start to look into the full depth of alien interaction on Earth, it is easy to be overwhelmed by the scale of the planning that goes on here. Still, we make our way along, just as everyone does, growing into whatever we become.
Actually, when you look at it right, Earth is a fun place to be. (Though not easy...)
: )
Love is always the way
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Bodhran
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 09:56 am: |
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Hi all,
couple of things I'm trying to understand about Plejarans and spiritual levels. According to the contact notes the level of IHWH corresponds to the individual living in creational wisdom. If this is correct how can beings at this level of evolution still be at a war like stage for thousands of years in our pre-history as has also been stated in the contact notes, such as Arus and Jehav 13,000 years ago who were both IHWH and fairly bloodthirsty by all accounts. Any help in understanding this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Salome
Tony.
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Elreyjr
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 05:48 pm: |
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Greetings,
To put fuel into the fire, at what point of spiritual evolution will humans stop being delusional and degenerate?
Jun
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 465
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 06:57 pm: |
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Arus and Jehav were FHWH , which means that they were false "kings of wisdom" . |
Indi
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Post Number: 461
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 07:12 pm: |
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To add to Mark's post -- with a slight correction of spelling:
In the book OM at the beginning,p.13-15 there is a section 'Explanation' in which it says:
ISCHFESCH (IHFH) translates from old-Lyranische into earthly languages as King of Falshood/Deceitfulness, a title which was used by the old Lyraner people for those who pursued their life and work with lies and deception, power, force, terror, anarchy and death as well as exploitation.
Whereas, a King of Wisdom, an ISCHWISCH, lives as an absolute model in the sense of the creational laws and recommendations. |
Matt
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Post Number: 146
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 07:05 pm: |
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Bodhran, good question! I wondered the same thing. |
Bodhran
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 01:54 am: |
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Thank you Mark and Indi, that clears something up, but basically I was thinking what Elreyjr was thinking, because the Plejaran are so far ahead of us in terms of spiritual evolvement is it likely that if the world doesn't heed their message that we could spend the next million or so years blowing the bejaysus out of each other until we cop on? Thats a bit of a depressing and sobering thought.
Thanks Matt i'm sure lots of people who come into contact with the material wonder about this.
Salome
Tony.
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Kingman
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Post Number: 807
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 01:56 am: |
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Hi Jun,
"To put fuel into the fire, at what point of spiritual evolution will humans stop being delusional and degenerate?"
I asked Billy something similar and he replied, " When they begin to live in a virtuous way".
Basically, it's when we realize it's best for oneself, and all, to do the right thing at every given moment, because it's what we wish to do.
a friend in america
Shawn
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