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Elreyjr
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Post Number: 131
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 05:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings Shawn,

Thank you for you reply.

Maybe the motto "One for all. All for one" is appropriate when it is always applied towards virtuous undertakings.

Could this motto be somewhere in the FIGU materials?

Jun
My will be done
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Elreyjr ;

I don't know for sure , but it's in the Three Musketter's handbook .

Mark
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 257
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They should also call this...Back to the Furniture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ&feature=popt02us03
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J_rod7
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Villatlf
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Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice...
Looking at this device I imagine a future like the one showed in Wall-E the movie.

I assume the Plejaren prefer to walk, no matter they could do a chair like this. Is that true?

Francisco
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Calenwath
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Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, really green recruit here, and Id like to ask whether or not Christine Day's work is credible at all as I have no idea only just having become a believer and truth seeker. Im anxious to learn German to absorb all I can. I have no fear within my soul for the future for I am part of Creation and feel I was meant to learn these things at this time. I know this all to be truth because only truth rings in the spirit like a great bell as these facts do. So much to process, I would greatly appreciate any information to start with. I have ordered Jmmanuel's teachings and have one of Day's books but Id like to know if she's credible as she gives no nod to Billy whatsoever in her book. Sorry so long, just so excited to be alive and AWOKEN!!
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Bodhran
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Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Calenwrath,
according to the information here which is the only credible source on the Pleadians / Plejaran, anyone who claims to channel pleadians is full of it and should be given a wide berth. Spend some time browsing the forum and visiting theyfly.com and futureofmankind.co.uk for all the answers. Best to do some research before asking questions, most of the answers can be found on these sites.

Back to time travel,
Edward, where does that leave us with not being able to change the past with time travel, am I wrong in that the Plejaran are from a fraction of a second in the future? I don't understand this very well. Our future is surely being altered by their interactions with Billy in our present but are they not then essentially time travelling into the past albiet a fraction of a second to be here in contact with Billy? I'm confused about this, I'm presuming there is some difference in dimensional time travel between universes and time travel in your own universe. Any thoughts?
Salome

Tony.
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J_rod7
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Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

***

Hi Calenwrath,

Pleased to make your acquaintance, and Welcome to our Forum.

Well the "learning-curve' can be quite steep here, with so MUCH written material, testimonials, Spiritual Teachings, and new translations coming forth seemingly in a great rush - as if a great river of Truth comes down from the Mountains to clean the Earth. Well, it is so that 'time' grows short, but no need for anyone to panic. The Truth is FREE for all which SEEK it, and the Spirit will never die.

Let me recommend a book to you which will give you a condensed introduction to the mission of the Plejaren and the mission of Billy as the 7th and last true Prophet on this Earth.

The book is: And Still They Fly by Guido Moosbrugger, and available from: http://www.theyfly.com

Direct link: http://theyfly.com/products/products.htm#fly

While on that site, you should 'browse around' there -- Michael Horn has got a lot of good interesting stuff, links, discussions, and a powerful 'search' engine, all for serious study and a massive infusion of Truth.

In Peace -- Salome

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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Elreyjr
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Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings Bodhran and JRod,

My friends, he is Calenwath.

Anyways, personality is not important for the spirit for it does not have any, so I surmised.

Welcome to the forum, Calenwath.

Jun
My will be done
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Sergi
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Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope this is the right section for this but I couldn't find anywhere more suitable for this question.

This may sound a bit silly but I have a question about the female fish person Billy met in Ptaahs ship. Do her people go swimming in the sea like other fish do? I thought how could they if they now have arms and legs designed for movement out of the water. I assume they are now relegated to only swim in the same style and manner that we do.
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Joe
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Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have the Plejaren ever mentioned what percentage of the brain do they use? I'm asking because we Earth people only use about 10% of our brain if that's true.
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Edward
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Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joe....


I was also aware of our today's scientists estimate of 10%.

Earthman's percentage is 12-14%(; not being too far off...). This is mentioned
by Billy to an answer. And even of the Plejarans was asked, but...was not
answered, if I remember correctly.


Edward.
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Thomas
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Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 05:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Brain quotient is not the same as the percentage of our brains' material > being used. The 10 percent thing is a fallacy. We use our entire brains > but very inefficiently as I understand it.
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Gib_niner
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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also just getting back to an earlier point made by Hector...(meant to comment on this first but got distracted with the android topic)

Hector you wrote..

"At that very high stage of evolution, high evolved creatures like Ischwish's will develop a natural, automatic instinct of compliance with creational laws. That implies to help and assist evolution in all its stages and manifestations. "

Well I'm quite sure you have a fair incline of this yourself (owing to the history thats on record) - but just to explore it again as maybe its an interesting area ..anyway - one time i was asking a question of Billy about Ischwish's, and Ischwish 'power abuse'. (was trying to find it but couldn't seem to readily dig it up)

but anyway - I had been asuming aswell that this should always be the case, ie insofar as compliance with creational laws etc. (hence the inherent paradox of Ischwish 'power abuse' that would be evident in and of itself) - however i was informed by Billy that i had an incorrect understanding of the term and actually an Ischwish could be someone just extremely highly technically proficient in one area or something along those lines, like maybe in a science discipline of something..think that was the gist of it from what i can remember.

also adding to that, free will always enters into this aswell. a factor thats always going to be at play here too.

therefore frustratingly in the end. this would seem to indicate that although for the most part an Ischwish does indeed wisely fall into step with Creational Law, that however...alas this may not always be the case.
it seems that an Ischwish in spite of being quite very advanced in certain areas could still nevertheless be a rotten egg in relation - to actually not
seeing fit to bother at all with complying with creational laws and recommendations!

as odd a situation as this would seem to serve up.

Dig the well before you are thirsty. ~Chinese Proverb
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Sonik_01
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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 03:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Gib_Niner,

Actually, the Ishwshs of ancient times hadn't reached the ACTUAL level of Ishwhs, they just called themselves that way. It's like George Bush going around personally to the bush people (aborigiounals) in another country and telling them that he was a scientist! We all know that's not true!
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Hector
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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 03:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Moderators, if this comment is not in the right topic, relocate it.

Hi Gib, I had in mind today's plejaren Ishwishs/Half Ishwishs (Semjase, Quetzal, Ptaah) when I wrote the above. It is difficult to imagine that people with an enormous knowledge and enormous potential do not use their abilities in behalf of the community or in behalf of evolution in general, but in behalf of of themselves. This usually happens when the personality/ego is able to keep the spirit form in the background. When the ego is able to subjugate/silence the calls of the spirit form. It is the spirit and one of its manifestations (good/bad conscience) what urges an individual to comply with creation's laws. Take for example the latest BP oil spill. There are people who show bad or good conscience when they see pictures of the Mexican Gulf environmental disaster, while on the other side there are many other people who just don't give a damn when they watch dying animals covered in tar and oil. Good or bad conscience is an indicator of compliance and understanding of creational laws.

Many criminal Ishwish's did not show any doubt, remorse or bad conscience when they used they inmense powers against their fellow human beings. The keyword in my opinion is "degeneration". An Ishwish may be wise in varied fields, but if he/she does not stay in permanent alert in relation with negative values like power hunger, glory, fame, success, dominance, profit, parasitism, violence etc etc, then he will fall in an endless spiral of negativity.

Here in the Forum there have been a lot of discussions about being "humble" or "modest". Trying to be a modest person is necessary in order to perceive yourself as you are, and not more than you are (Superiority complex). Many degenerate Ishwish's had in common their uncontrolled arrogance, presumptuousness, haughtyness....what they did never realize (interiorize) is how insignificant and irrelevant they were in comparison to the Creation.
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Gib_niner
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sonik, ha thats funny about Bush, never heard that before - wonder did he embark on his science career before or after his tenure as epic manager of baseball team. (smile)

hi Hector,

Yeah, its an interesting area to focus on the much total crazy behaviour of past Ischwishs. Fascinating to my mind how they could allow themselves to degenerate into such horrible modes of behaviour even when they had so much knowledge of Creational truths at arms's length. It still mattered little. Guess no matter how much knowledge is inside of oneself - could be that there is always the danger of an ego spinning out of control - irrespective of anything else, maybe there is a lesson in that alone.

{ Also, may not be appropriate for this section but by the by - another aspect of my question to Billy on this was the following - on the basis that there has been such Direct interference from wayward Ishwichs's in the past - that in order to balance this up might it not be beholden to the P's to help remedy earth problems in a correspondingly more Direct fashion. (even if they were to continue to not fully reveal their actual presence ) Of course the work they have been doing with Billy will be of enormous benefit ultimately no doubt. however could the case be argued at all given that this is of a too too subtle, slow-burner form - given the history of the situation in sense of again to repeat such direct interference. - Guess its never going to happen - but feel this way a little bit still - although probably if i thought about it for a long enough - there would be wise reasons for the more subtle approach as they are doing - but anyway just think its an interesting area - wondering if anyone else is inclined to think on similar lines. }

Also insofar as your list (arrogance, presumptuousness etc) - wondering if 'thoughts about being special' can be entered into this equation aswell - maybe these old very wayward Ischwishs were guilty on that front too. For my part I think that this is a very important document. Nowadays in todays culture - we are being bombarded on all fronts by mass media - pretty much in the way that this is something to be absolutely strived for. way too much so! - one would be inclined to think - cant be a good thing - not everyone can be so so special. ITs impossible. Little do they know that they are already so special without having to so desperately strive for it. why cant people relax - just being a part of this amazing big Creation - that should be enough for them!!!

about what you were saying in relation to the oil spill - happen to think myself - that even as unbelievably horrenduous as the spill is of course - that nevertheless there will be some positives to come of it. I think with my limited way of thinking i may be able to grasp the logic of P's not bothering to clean up this mess - we have to learn these lessons ourselves. also in support of that - (on the Creation side of things - can the planets shed some light at all on this dire event one wonders???) as it happens, was reading an article the other day in relation to the planet Uranus.. (fairly easy to see how uranus in pisces linking up with the spill) - which also contains the following.... (dated from 2003 about the seven year effect or so of Uranus in pisces)

'The oil industry will experience great change - Green Technology finally begins to infiltrate the corporate power structures'

http://www.universalastrology.com.au/article17.htm

also undoudoubtedly there will be an outpouring of sympathy and concern for the wildlife and people that are affected by the disaster. Sympathy and concern are Piscean qualities. and it seems to be the case that as a planet is making an exit from a sign (here again in this case Pisces) - then there is this double whammy effect or knock out blow if you will...again - maybe indicative of big spill itself.

also as it happens was wondering about something in relation to what you were saying about "remorse, bad conscience' etc. - areas that were touched on in recent translation contact 6 - but maybe i will post in more suitable thread. - maybe in 'spirituality in everyday life' -ok thats all for now.

oh yeah - Hi Sheila - glad you liked the footage, - maybe the guy was stupefied into silence!
also be sure to keep an eye out for that thing in your back yard.

Dig the well before you are thirsty. ~Chinese Proverb
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Marbar
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Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Semjase and Asket are friends; I have a question about them.

How did Semjase and Asket met each other and decided to become friends?
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Schantz
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Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They met at their local Starbucks, many light years from here, and liked each others hairdos.
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Sonik_01
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Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marbar,

Asket and Semjase are cousins.
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it was Sfaath , Semjase's grandfather , who is the connection there ,as he worked extensively in Asket's universe , the DAL universe . (Djansjnj Arg Lasegnoraljn).
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Rarena
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Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bush a scientist... eh eh... political science? More of an oxy-moron... It's not science...

That's interesting about Sfaath, I thought it was from Billy's time at the ashram in India where Asket was his primary contact at that time... but your reference goes back even farther... thanks.
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Rubi
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Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi,
I was just reading info on this link:

Please look at SECTION "4.2 Plejaren Human Beings"... It is stated in this section that "Plejaren are monogamous".
Isn't that incorrect information? I remember reading somewhere that Plejaren males can have more than one wife (3 if I remember correctly).
Please clarify.
Thanks

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Dear Ruby,
If you do a search of the forum, you will notice that this topic has caused some confusion before for others. However, I will lead you to an explanation that may help you that was offered by Jacob in 2005:

...."The true maritial love between a man and a woman is unbreakable and true MONOGAMOUS in nature, the love connection reaches into deep into both the male and female psyche and connects into the Spiritform of both, as positive and negative unite this way, there is balance and harmony.
It means that neither a man or a woman in this kind of unity will allow this unity to be broken or disregarded, both will be truthfull, respecting, equal, yet different in this unity.

This monogamous unity is a part of the POLYGAMOUS maritial unity and is its building block. "

You can find the complete post at:

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/5562.html#POST11717

Robyn


(Message edited by indi on July 18, 2010)

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