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    Gib_niner Member Post Number: 116 Registered: 06-2006 |
Some big name Celebs - (Jeremy Irons along with Sir David Attenborough) taking the time to focus attention the Overpopulation issue... also Jeremy irons himself planning on making a documentary on it. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7134012.ece but as ever there are will be the nay-sayers... http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/jun/02/fred-pearce-overpopulation-nonsense Giorraíonn beirt bóthar, Sean. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1283 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hello Gib_9r, Very good to see "big-names" getting on-board with the overpopulation issue. Thank you for the post - refreshing. As for the nay-sayers = should they live another 40-years without any action on the Global overpopulation, they will see a world of horrors (as will everyone), and realize: too little, too late, that Nature will not allow such an imbalance of Billions of Humans with inadequate resources to feed themselves. The resultant pressure of overpopulation is already self-evident to logical thinking Humans, and such awareness will "catch-on" even with the most obstinate among us. Peace *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 268 Registered: 01-2009 |
Greetings fellow Spirit-Forms. When I was in Switzerland last month I learnt a few things, just by talking to others. One thing I learnt is that another overpopulated planet experienced 3 months worth of global disasters which killed millions (billions, I cannot remember the exact figure). This 3 months of global disasters was the result of overpopulation. Thus after this the population was brought down to a (normal?) level. Overpopulation, therefore, is not only here on earth but happens on many other planets. This other planet which I am referring to here was more advanced in technology and they still could not solve their overpopulation problems with their technology. All the persons on earth who delusionally think and believe that we can solve our food, water, energy, climate and so on, problems are very wrong and will miss lead those who wish to take what they say and present as truth down a dead end path. Hench, it is truly only through reducing human numbers, nothing else, that would stop/minamise simular events happening here on earth. Of course we should be developing technology for better food and water management, clean energies and so on. But this will not solve our overpopulation problems. Salome Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 1032 Registered: 03-2004 |
> It was many billions of people on Akart I believe. Around 22 billion I > seem to remember but that number might be off since it is just from memory. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 429 Registered: 03-2004 |
That is very true Stephen overpopulation is the biggest and most urgent problem of all, if one thinks of any daily problem that persons on the planet suffer, they are directly tied to it. From criminality to pollution, from unemployment to traffic, wars, indifference for other person´s suffering, the lack of a sense of community, and a thousand things more. | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 269 Registered: 01-2009 |
Hi Thomas Yes, it was Akart. I did not want to name the Planet incase it was not published or widely known. I was also told it was Akart. Hi Memo Correct Salome Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 246 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hi Stephen, Do you know how long it took to bring the Akart population down to normal levels, and what figure is normal for their planet too? | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 351 Registered: 07-2008 |
Peace in wisdom be with you, Darren, you may find some answers to your question here - see 'The Danger of Atmospheric Collapse', a translation by Vivienne Legg and Dyson Devine of an excerpt from FIGU Special Bulletin no 51, January 2010 (part of the 481st Official Contact Report of October 14th, 2009): http://www.thecircleforhumanity.net/ Salome. | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 247 Registered: 07-2009 |
Thx Phenix! Actually I thought there was 'another' contact that spoke about Akart. (next time I'll do a search before asking) | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1806 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All... Had this laying around; perhaps it was from Stevens..... Excerpt: Besides the other races of these worlds, this one race comes often to Earth. This is because their homeworld, which is no greater than Earth herself, suffers from overcrowding, and needs huge quantities of food. For this reason, beings from that planet, called AKART come to Earth often, to collect there plants, vegetables, fruits and grains, to nourish their 23 billion population. They are mostly satisfied with taking seeds of fruits, grains, and vegetables, and also plant stocks, to set out on AKART - to grow there. They collect more useable nourishment's on other (less pop- ulated) worlds which they also visit often and periodically. In them selves, these forms are of rather peaceful character, and have had to suffer much in the last centuries. Today they live under a dictatorship, as you would call it, by which they have relatively better living conditions. Their great problem is their severe overcrowding, which they could relieve by emigration, but their technologies have not solved space transportation on sufficient scale to be of help. Note: a Dictatorship can not always be that bad! It is just HOW One would implement it in practise! Darren: I think it was mentioned that a Plague broke out on Akart (then, reaching an Overpopulation of 125 BILLION) and the population was reduced to 1,25-6 Billion, or something? You may have to do a Search with the Search Engine, for details; this was discussed in the past. Edward. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 97 Registered: 11-2008 |
I could be wrong about this but the planet Akart never had a population of 125 billion. That's disinformation. According to Ptaah, the planet Akart back in the 1990s had a population of about 23 billion and because of their planet being overpopulated they had an atmospheric colapse. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1807 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Joe.... Thank you for your input. IF, it is indeed incorrect....I think it would have already been mentioned by the Moderators in the past, or whomever. I had the same information for years. If someone, who has been here as long as I have...from the beginning, can you account to Confirming the error: let them please step forward; I would say? I do, remember... Scott mentioning the above previous posting count once, years back. But, Scott has mentioned a divers numbers of errors throughout the years which we can not really blame him for. It can happen as it does to us all. And I check back on this board every 5 days for study, and have not come across a correction(?). I thought, the Plague may have been a by-effect relating to the Overpopulation Bomb and the mentioned Atmospheric Collapse. It is possible such scenario. Scott...: can you please, Confirm the 125 BILLION of being Error and the Plague, please? So that, we can keep to the Truth of the correct number and Cause? Thank you.... Edward. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1996 Registered: 12-1999 |
The information I came across was posted in the Passive Members Section of the forum. Here is the quote:To put the topic of overpopulation into a different perspective, Ptaah mentioned to Billy not long ago about the overpopulation on a planet in the system of Alpha Centauri, Earth's closest neighbor 4.5 Light Years away. The population of that human-inhabited planet, Akart, about the same size as Earth, suddenly swelled with 62 Billion refugees, who arrived on Akart as refugees from wars in their own home systems. The population of Akart went up to an unbelievable number of 126 billion. Naturally, the planet could not support such a gigantic number of people and a pestilence broke out. In only 18 months, 124.5 billion people died. This was called the "Time of the Great Death". The planet today has a population of 1.26 Billion, about 1 % of what it was before 99% were decimated. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1997 Registered: 12-1999 |
Edward, Could you please explain your comment to me: But, Scott has mentioned a divers numbers of errors throughout the years which we can not really blame him for. Scott | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 98 Registered: 11-2008 |
sorry but forget about the part where I mentioned the planet Akart having a population of 23 billion in the 1990s because it seems that Ptaah actually mentioned this figure back in 1975. I dunno but I could have sworn that I had read it somewhere about the planet Akart having a population of 23 billion as of 1995 but I guess I must have mixed this up with something else. Contact Report 35: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_35 and here is contact report 481 where Ptaah explains to Billy about the dangers of an atmospheric collapse because of overpopulation. http://www.theyfly.com/Atmospheric_Collapse.htm Ptaah never mentions the planet Akart as having or had a population of 126 billion, not even 62 billion. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 99 Registered: 11-2008 |
more information from Ptaah regarding Akart a few years ago: "The population of that human-inhabited planet, Akart, about the same size as Earth, suddenly swelled with 62 Billion refugees, who arrived on Akart as refugees from wars in their own home systems. The population of Akart went up to an unbelievable number of 126 billion. Naturally, the planet could not support such a gigantic number of people and a pestilence broke out. In only 18 months, 124.5 billion people died. This was called the "Time of the Great Death". The planet today has a population of 1.26 Billion, about 1 % of what it was before 99% were decimated." source: http://www.galactic-server.net/rune/akart.html Could someone please tell me in which contact report did Ptaah actually mention this about the planet Akart? If I'm not mistaken Billy had already mentioned that the book "UFO-Contact From Akart: A Planet Without Money that was published by Wendelle Stevens isn't true. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 1033 Registered: 03-2004 |
> What do you base your doubts on Joe? As I understand it, there was a > sudden immigration from other planets which caused this overpopulation. You > might be correct but it seems not to be the case according to the info I > have read... | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1289 Registered: 10-2007 |
Hello Thomas, I have seen the same information as your reference, re the massive influx of refuges leading to a massive die-off of the total population. Can't remember where I saw this, however. Peace ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1808 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Scott.... Thank you for your input. Wisely, appreciated. Nothing personal, dear buddy. As I mentioned: It can happen as it does to us all. I had posted at the PAR a number of excerpts in the past, and I was corrected by those whom said they had the correct information, and they were also aware that the incorrect insight came from you. This concerned 'numbers and other insights'; and they justed posted what they had gathered, which to them was the correct information. Thus, I did not go further into the matter, and just let the Reader decide for him/her-self, what to think of it. Edward. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1809 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Joe..... Interesting research and insight. Than, the information I previously posted(excerpt) from what was to be Stevens is NOT true, as you mentioned? The number or/and even the rest mentioned? I usually do not post his excerpts with the knowledge...there are still errors present. Well, Christian did remind us occasionally to beware of Stevens' information; which still contain many errors. Edward. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 100 Registered: 11-2008 |
Both Scott and Solar had asked the question to Billy about the authenticity of the book "UFO-Contact From Akart: A Planet Without Money" and Billy replied that it's nonsense. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/10541.html?1256324517 | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 1034 Registered: 03-2004 |
> I have that book and that is not the source of the info I was talking about > so the book is irrelevant in this case. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1290 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** We have had some private discussions among certain of ourselves to the effect that the book: "Contact from Acart" does tell a true account. It is not known, in our discussions, why Billy does not acknowledge this account which accurately agrees with that revealed from Semjase. Some of us (myself) conclude that Billy may be playing the "plausible-deniability" card here, since what is revealed in the book did not come through the "proper channels," i.e. the Plejaren. ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ["Akart is a planet 5 light years distant from Earth that is inhabited by over 23,000,000,000 humans. They are capable of space travel and visit the Earth often to collect fruits, grains and vegetables to set out to grow on their overpopulated planet."] --- (Billy) -- http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Akart ['Akart [Acart] - planet in the next inhabited star system 5 light-years from Earth; different worlds in that system are inhabited by humans who differ little from Earth humans, though they are some years advanced (technologically & spiritually) beyond Earth humans, having already achieved space flight & visit Earth often; they have a space station mid-way between their world & Earth; they narcotize themselves for cosmic space flight due to severe pain associated with it; Akart, approximate size of Earth, is overpopulated (23 billion), they come to Earth to collect seeds of plants, vegetables, fruits & grains; they collect foodstocks on other less-populated planets; Akartians are rather peaceful, though suffered much & currently live in a dictatorship; people from other populated planets in the system of Akart are unable to help the Akartians being "still too much caught up in the material & worldly things" (see Stevens' "UFO Contact From Planet Acart": http://www.ufophotoarchives.com/acart.jpg"] ---(Semjase, C35)-- http://www.theyfly.com/cnotes.html ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ Wendelle Stevens has performed an invaluable service for his part on behalf of FIGU. However, it must be noted that Wendelle had at the time certain "christian beliefs" which colored his perceptions of the Contact Notes. Billy had some "displeasure" in the manner of the English Translations in Wendelle's publications. Certain 'things' were left out and certain 'things' were distorted in the published Contact Notes. The distortions and omissions did cause angst with Billy, as it would anyone who knows the Truth should be rightly told. Again, to answer "to what degree is Akart overpopulated?" It is to see that Akart is the same relative size as Earth. Then the correct population there should be less than One-Billion instead of the current 23-Billion. The 'Akartians' are not yet as Spiritually advanced enough to apply the Laws of Creation to their own selves, as referenced: "still too much caught up in the material & worldly things". This, IMO, corresponds with our condition here on Earth. Peace *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod |
