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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 212
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 10:54 am: | 
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However, the Plejaren say they live in a system 80 light years beyond the Pleiades system visible from earth in a fraction of second in the future. They also tell us that it is not visible to us plus its in our same universe.
Reality shifted a fraction of second into the future would actually be like a future projection of the reality (can be visited through time-travel) we are experiencing now and there would obviously be a “present” counterpart of the same. So anything in our scope of perception can be ruled out that could possibly be the Plajeran material. A possible explanation can be that they live in a separate “time-track” (not to be confused with timeline).
Is there any existing material to read about time-track or the Plejaren concept of dimension in any of the English/ German material?
Salome.
Suv
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 500
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 09:53 pm: |
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Hi Suv
The Plejarens do not live in a separate “time-track” to us but in an andersdimensionierten Universum (a different-dimensioned universe) by virtue of being a split second postponed to our space-time structure (p 18, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums). They have a dimension gate which allows them to communicate from their dimension to ours without any time delay whatsoever. And the same communication system is available to all federation members in all the different dimensions as well as to Asket’s people in the DAL universe and even other nations living there who have formed a friendly alliance with the Plejaren (p. 210, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums).
Regards
Bob |
Darren
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Post Number: 164
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 12:28 am: |
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Anyone think/know if Guido's book on time travel will ever be translated into English, and if so, when?
If I buy the book, then use software translator on it, will the translation be sufficient enough to know whats going on? |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 213
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 08:55 am: |
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Hello Bob,
I was aware of a gateway between DERN and DAL universe but but not of the dimension gate between Plejaren and our dimension. Thanks for the info.
Actually when I asked the question, I was thinking about the concept of "time-tracks" being produced during big-bang and if time-tracks are equivalent to dimensions. Irrespective of the fact that the Plejaren live in another dimension, they still live in our Universe. How space is so efficiently distributed in dimension? One probable answer could be that space is "sliced" at finematter level so that numerous dimensions superimpose one above another - different "slices" of space being separated from one another by infinitesimal shift in time.
Anyway, I do not want to to continue discussion on individual speculation.
Hello Darren,
I experimented with software translation on GoT before and the result was extremely disappointing - to the point that actually wrong meanings were conveyed. Billy's book use so many spiritual terminology, that the translator get confused. Also, not sure if anybody will concur, but I have noticed a certain rhythm in arranging of the verses and also structuring of the sentences (especially if you read the German original which I could do in some instance due to my training in introductory German). Contact notes are much less of an issue (but still not perfect).
Salome.
Suv
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Darren
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 12:26 pm: |
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Thx for that info on GoT Suv. Oh well, it'll remain a dream to read that book still.  |
Joe
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 02:54 am: |
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Excerpt From Contact Report 448
Billy
You spoke of that once and said that this technology, which is unusually high and very futuristic for us Earthlings, isn’t a development on your part, and neither are your protective shields, which immediately convert all energy hitting them into their own energy, and through this, the protective shields strengthen instead of weaken. If I remember correctly, these forms of technology come from Asket’s friendly people, the Sonaer in the DAL Universe, who are more than 4,000 years ahead of you in relation to your technological development.
Ptaah
The technology mentioned does, in fact, trace back to the Sonaer, who have already assisted us for many years in every technological development; consequently, we have a variety of technologies today that we did not yet have at the beginning of our contacts approximately 30 years ago. So now, very many new technologies are available to us, which would have taken up very long development times for us if they had not been provided to us by the Sonaer in good friendship.
Billy
This probably includes the dimension gate, which you’re probably still working on, right? Here, on television, there is a series running that is called “Star Gate,” which is roughly comparable with your dimension gate. Only, its appearance and function are a little different than what you showed me three times. In this science fiction on television, a large ring is used, which is equipped with control symbols, and in front of this, there is a kind of control panel. This in contrast to your mechanism, which needs nothing of the sort, but which is set into operation just by a small device on your overalls, out of which nothing appears like a gate flickering at the edges, respectively a passageway, through which one recognizes the other dimension or the area, etc. that exists beyond the gate. The whole thing works as though one would look through a window or through a door that would have simply been placed in the open countryside.
Ptaah
Yes, this gate is also among the achievements of the Sonaer, with whom we have developed it. And in addition, it is to be said that the whole thing became so functional a few weeks ago that it can also be used perfectly and safely for the passage of people. We can move back and forth through it, both in the present time as well as in different space-time configurations, respectively dimensions.
Billy
And can you also go to the DAL Universe with it?
Ptaah
That isn’t possible for us, but our engineers and scientists are working together with the Sonaer, in order to make this a reality.
End of excerpt.
So if I've understood correctly what Phi_spiral has just posted regarding dimension doors/gates and this excerpt from contact report 448 it is possible to communicate and travel to any part of our DERN universe however at the moment it is only possible to communicate (not travel via a dimension door/gate)with other ETs from one universe to another. |
Elreyjr
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Post Number: 100
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 03:11 am: |
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Greetings,
If Universes can be represented by bubbles, is it safe to imagine that the other dimension is a bubble within a bubble?
Jun |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 215
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 07:13 am: |
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Thanks Joe.
Salome.
Suv
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 501
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 09:40 pm: |
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A dimension gate is also used by the Plejarens in making hyperspace jumps and is created by a teletransmitter machine (Teletransmittermaschinen) on board the spacecraft (p.249, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums). When Billy first began his contacts with the Plejarens, they used a two phase pulse drive system, one to accelerate up to the speed of light and a second drive during the hyperspace jump itself. The first phase drive system used a combination of anti-gravitational and photon impulses. And the second drive used a combination of tachyon and anti-matter impulses (p.258, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums). It also required a travel time of 3 ½ hours in order to reach a safe distance away from any celestial object before making the hyperspace jump because it would create a vacuum effect that would literally shatter any planetary body within a certain distance creating potential projectiles (p.260). But these technologies were continually being improved upon during the interim of Billy’s contacts until the effective flight time shriveled from over seven hours to just seven minutes (p.261). The dimension gate technology they have now makes it possible for them to literally step through from their home planet to ours without a ship at all, but for safety and security reasons that may not be desirable.
Regards
Bob |
Scott
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Post Number: 1938
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:05 pm: |
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Hi Bob,
That is very interesting about the Plejarens having the ability to travel from their dimension to ours without any type of vehicle. I'm assuming for this to work the technology would have to be in place at both ends?
Thanks
Scott |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 502
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:53 pm: |
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No, I don't think so, Scott. The way Billy describes it on pages 261-262 of Aus den Tefen des Weltenraums, it is like an open door passageway that one would step through with an energetic flicker appearing around the profile of your body as you crossed over. |
Edward
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Post Number: 1687
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 03:03 am: |
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Hi Scott, Bob and All....
It was mentioned, before this all could become reality, there were many
set-backs, as I remember. At times, when this technology was conducted, the
human/body would not reconstruct itself as it should and resemble a 'monster'
so to speak, or anything similar. The technology...still have to be Perfected.
[Think I mentioned this in the past here....]
Am not sure, either, if it was 'port' related, though. But, as I could make
out it does seem to be the case? Going in ONE END, and than....the other end,
back?
Unless, that ONE port, focuses it's configurations constantly with/to that
human being concerning, without any loss of touch and can just transport the
human back, without a Second destined/home port?
Lost, the details, at the moment, alas.
Edward. |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 504
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 01:14 pm: |
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Jun: "If Universes can be represented by bubbles, is it safe to imagine that the other dimension is a bubble within a bubble?"
Hi Jun. In the case of dimensions, I think you have to think of it as the same bubble (more accurately it is egg shaped) – with the egg-shaped bubble being the DERN universe. The dimension of the Plejarens are out of sync time wise to ours by a fraction of a second in a similar way that you might watch a news reporter on TV whose lips you see are slightly out of sync to the sound of the words you hear. And this, too, is an inadequate analogy since earth's understanding of these things still has a lot of catching up.
Regards
Bob |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 505
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 01:26 pm: |
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Edward: “The technology...still have to be Perfected.”
Well it seems to be OK now, as Ptaah reported in Contact 448, on April 27, 2007, (which Joe posted an excerpt of above):
Ptaah:
27. Und zu sagen ist dazu, dass das Ganze vor wenigen Wochen derart funktionsfähig geworden ist, dass es auch für den Durchgang von Menschen einwandfrei und gefahrlos benutzt werden kann.
27. And it can be said further, that the whole thing become so functional a few weeks ago that it also can be used for the passage of people properly and safely. |
Elreyjr
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 09:39 pm: |
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Hi Bob,
Again, Thank you, for being there.
It still does not really connect with me. The presence of two different situation without getting entangled with each other even despite the said delay is beyond me still. Me thinks, No two 3D movies shown on one screen can be appreciated even without any such delay. It will be a total mess, I suppose. More so for 4D movies. There could be water sprayed and a breeze of cold air while the other scene is on the desert.
Jun |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 170
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 08:16 am: |
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I can get a bit confusing or beyond our ability using a human brain when talking about universes in every direction and multiple dimensions and/or phases of time. You are talking about universes such as the one we are in and not galaxies of which we can see uncountable amounts within our own space time.
With such a device you would need a life span of more that 1000 years just to consciously appreciate it let alone travel there. Hopefully only peaceful benevolent people will have this technology.....
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Spiritual_Teaching
"The kingdom of the spirit holds wonders over wonders.
The visible universe with which the human deals, is but a tiny spot within this wonderful, endless, spiritual intelligence of Creation.
Countless billion universes like this are held within the endless spiritual intelligence of Creation.
What is visible to the human's physical eyes is but a tiny iota within endlessness.
What he cannot see with his eyes is immeasurable, inconceivable and unthinkable; it is confusing and unimaginable for his unspiritual human intelligence and (mental) capacity.
The entire universe which he sees is but one of many rooms and must be counted as myriads, because there are universes within universes, universes beyond universes, universes under universes, universes above universes and universes out of the universes within this ur -mighty, colossal and all-creative spiritual intelligence of the Creation's existence.
And the human is connected with this mighty spirit, with these elemental powers of existence, Creation, spiritual intelligence, because a fragment of this spirit-intelligence Creation dwells within, and enlivens, the human as spirit."
Peace, Matt
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Edward
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Post Number: 1698
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 01:09 am: |
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Hi Bob...
There is a spellcheck mistake one 'Have', which should be 'Had'. Was speaking
of 'then'. I was speaking of the past.
Of course, they resolved the flaws. Am aware it is perfected, now.
Edward. |
Bodhran
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 09:41 am: |
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Hi all,
I have a time travel related question if anyone can help me out...The Plejaran exist in a different time space configuration to us, a fraction of a second of a difference in time to us, does this mean that the Plejaran are essentially time travelling to earth when they visit here? Or is there some other dimensional process involved here?
Thanks.
Salome
Tony.
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Bodhran
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 10:00 am: |
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Oops, I see that was partly explained above as a dimensional process but is there an element of time travel involved as well?
Salome
Tony.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1771
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 12:47 am: |
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Hi Bodhran....
I would think so.
Having to live in an other time segment...and wanting to go into another as
they do would indeed, be Time Travel related, I would say. Even if it is that
small of a fraction of a second. Their time segment is no longer aligned with
ours; visa versa.
Edward. |
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