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Justsayno
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Post Number: 284
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 07:32 am: | 
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Hi Mat, interesting observations.
During WW2 Alberta had the biggest opium (poppy) crops out of any other province. Of course opium was used as a pain killer for our wounded troops. Currently Afghanistan is being punished for having the same thing, for the same reason. And for some strange reason, we think that Afghanistan is uncivilized?????
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 123
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 10:23 am: |
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The Drug Emporium/Oil/etc. will always be a deciding factor.
Perhaps kudos for the Movie "Pandora"<---Words fail to compare and cannot even begin to describe the need for change/evolution of the total perspective and spirit of the species as a whole!
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way.
~ Mark Twain
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1340
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 11:02 am: |
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Hi Shelia,
The Opium Poppy crop is a very valuable resource for the CIA and the "Black-Ops" guys. This is how they get such huge sums of money for their nefarious adventures. I don't know if you remember the "drugs-for-money-for-guns" deals that were such big news during Pr. Clinton's tenure = the Iran/Contra fiasco which brought down some big-names in our gov't. Here is a link to one of the stories:
http://www.ncoic.com/clinton.htm
Well surprise-surprise, everyone involved got hit with the crap from the fan except Clinton. It was also known to be going on during the era of Bush-the-First. Does anyone think this has now ended? Hey - the Coffee's on folks. Our gov't could care less about those people living in the mud-huts. Afghanistan = Opium = Big Money.
And this did not just start with them. The CIA (and their predecessors) have been going at it since WWII. The corruption runs very deep. This is also how the secret space program was funded. Those TR-3Bs are around $60-70-Billion each, and we are flying a fleet of them, fully Space capable and complete with anti-Gravity Drives and Cloaking technology. See the story (one of many) here:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/archive/gunsdrugscia.html
For those interested in the (old) technology of the TR-3B (current technology of these machines has gone far ahead of this reported), here is a link with lots of background/& inside information:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_extraterrestrialtech07.htm
Peace in Wisdom
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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 06:05 am: |
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Haven't heard that the cartels are dead in mid and south America have you? And certainly there still so long as an there is an American Embassy located in every corner in the world... they be there. As to the Golden Triangle and it's predecessors they are all still alive and very very well! My dear J_rod7 nothing has changed except the technology upgraded and used now to protect and hide them!
Peace.... in One Peace?????
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Marbar
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 06:09 pm: |
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Contact Report 45 talked about disaters like this: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_missing_iowa_lake
Semjase discussed with Billy about how the daming of waters should not occur. The article in the link is a good example of why the daming of waters should not occur. |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 521
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 10:26 pm: |
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The damn damming of the waters ist vershnerdle . |
Johnboy
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 11:51 am: |
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A 5.3 seaquake just happened off the coast of Oregon. The seismograph is still showing intense activity and the depth of only 10 kilometers brings the shaking very close to the surface. Being off the Oregon coast, it is very near the predicted origin of the 9.0 seaquake off the Bandon, OR coastline. Could this be the 'trigger'? http://www.pnsn.org/WEBICORDER/SMO_S/BURN_SHZ_UW_--.2010072812.html |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 285
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 10:45 am: |
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Hi Johnboy, thanks for keeping us updated. How close are you to Bandon? (sorry if you've posted that information previously)
Hi Rod, thanks for those links. In that last link, my husband saw the bottom one, of the first set of pictures. That was in 1980-81 in Inveremere, BC. But am still curious as how these aircraft are used to mutilate animals. In the final saga of our horse mutilation, when I talked to the owner yesterday he said the police investigation determined it died of natural causes. But not only that, the RCMP determined the animal expanded until it blew it's penis off. I kid you not. I would have hated to have been standing around when that happened. LOL
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 313
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 11:18 am: |
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Here are a few words of concern from Chuck, maybe he'll be king for a day, or a king someday:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1299099/Prince-Charles-My-duty-save-world.html |
Johnboy
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 05:41 am: |
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Justsayno,
I do not live near the west coast. I live near Atlanta, GA.
I have been studying the Meier information for a couple of years and feel very deeply that the seaquake will happen as predicted. If I notice anything out of the ordinary, I feel moved to share with anyone here who may read this forum and benefit from a 'heads up'.
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Johnboy
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 04:20 pm: |
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A 7.0 earthquake just made a direct hit on the New Britain Region of Papua New Guinea. Hopefully, the depth of over 50 kilometers will lessen the impact. |
Edward
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Post Number: 1846
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 01:01 am: |
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Hi Michael....
Have been aware of Charley's Awareness.
No one did listen to him back in those days. Never....took him seriously.
But, he is a man with - influence - and perhaps this can....make the
difference?
Edward. |
Sitkaa
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Post Number: 332
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 04:30 am: |
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The alternative media is starting to report that some scientists have finally figured out the that the BP oil spill is affecting the Gulf Stream. Here is a somewhat disorganized article which is starting to consider this. The authors fingers the use of dispersants as worsening the impacts of oil upon the Gulf Stream.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/128/672/Special_Post.html
Can anybody figure out a way to clean up this mess, now? It seems we are all gonna have to live with the impacts of such so much dispersed oil in our oceans, at least in the Northern Hemisphere. Fish for dinner, anyone?
Love is always the way
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1350
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 03:17 pm: |
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Hi Michael et all,
"Prince" Chucky plays fast and loose with his own self-importance.
This little quote from the story seems to sum it up:
["Critics condemned his words as ‘delusional’."]
One quote attributed to him however does make some sense:
["... We seem to have lost that understanding of the whole of nature and the universe as a living entity.’"]
-- This should be the central theme of all his public speeches.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1299099/Prince-Charles-My-duty-save-world.html#ixzz0w9JZb0Ni
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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 427
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 07:56 pm: |
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Hi Sitkaa,
Here are some satellite pictures that shows oil spill moving towards the Gulf loop current.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/05/100518-gulf-mexico-oil-spill-loop-current-science-environment/
If that happens, it is possible that the entire gulf can be coated with oil. The loop current also sometimes interacts with the Gulf Stream, and if that happens, either of the two would happen:
1) Warmer, less saline water reaching Europe, with unpredictable effect on sea life and extreme weather patterns there...or worse, but less likely,
2) Breakdown or change in coure of whole or part of Gulf Stream before reaching North-Western Europe giving arise to still more disastrous outcome, like turning Northern Europe to a refrigerator chill tray.
NOAA is playing down the danger so far: http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/doc/2931/726075/
Salome.
Suv
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 334
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 06:20 am: |
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Here's an overview of what is happening to the Gulf of Mexico ecosystem. It isn't exhaustive, there's no accounting of what is happening to the deeper water benthic organisms. Considering the heat, dissolved gasses, and poisonous chemicals that has coated the bottom of the Gulf, I don't expect that much is alive down there.
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/08/07/crime-century-bp-government-dont/
BP has rented all available ROV's and has pointed them at the public wellhead. NOAA has been pretty tight lipped since its initial survey a few months ago. Really, considering the magnitude of this catastrophe, I am blown away at how little real research is being done - just media outlets falling all over themselves trying to convince people to eat more Gulf seafood. I guess it goes to show how much everyone is dependent upon purse-strings,
and beholden to the people who hold them.
Love is always the way
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 335
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 06:51 am: |
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Yes, messing with the loop current will have immediate and direct effects upon the weather in the Southeast USA. This is mitigated to some extent with HAARP, which can be used to lift/move parts of the atmosphere through differential heating of it. I suspect HAARP has a hand right now in the shearing/dissipating of storm formations in the Gulf, however this is raising the sea surface temps and eventually we will have to pay this piper. Additionally we have a warmer and drier mid-continental summer, in part because the normal storms are being driven higher where the air is drier.
The dispersed oil will alter the formation of delineated thermoclines/currents in the ocean. For certain this will impact the greater Atlantic ocean, but to what degree I cannot say. This will probably noticeably impact the weather patterns of Greenland, Iceland, and Northern Europe, and at the very least everyone can blame BP for changes in the weather.
Extrapolating upwards in scale, the Gulf Stream effectively represents the world's largest river of water. The disruption of the movement of this much water is bound to have some effect upon the spinning of the globe, but whether this effect will be minuscule or merely minimal I cannot say.
Love is always the way
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Cpl
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Post Number: 531
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 10:49 pm: |
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The Plejaren have warned us about dams. The following is a recent dream that appeared to be a premonition. I had no idea whether there were any dams in the Sydney area. Apparently there are: <http://www.iliveinsydney.com/water/rainfall/warragamba-catchment-weather.php>.
Any Aussies here might like to pass this on to the relevant authorities for them to check out.
The earlier part of the dream might hint at the area concerned. There doesn’t seem to be any danger from heavy rainfall at the moment, but curiously I didn’t see any rain in the “dream.” Perhaps the stability of the dams themselves should also be checked?
Thanks,
Chris
Two Dams in Sydney Burst Around 9 or 10 am
Seen 29 July 2010, 5:45am
In this dream I was in a picturesque little valley, or maybe a slight depression in the land that was perhaps about 30 - 60 feet deep, in Australia. There was some beautiful pink tree blossom I am unfamiliar with and I was thinking how I could take a good photo of it. Problem was the sun had just risen (or was setting?) and was shining into my eyes. This also made the pink blossom look rather grayish as it was between me and the sun. The greenery was a beige greenish yellow in color, or dry. I needed to place myself between the sun and the tree while also getting a good view.
I walked around to do so. With the sun behind me there was now a hill or mountain in the background behind the tree. Being farther from the tree I couldn’t see the colorful blossom so well here, but it was a very picturesque spot with a little lake or big pond in a depression in the land. I remember thinking I should paint or sketch here sometime.
At the time, I didn’t know where I was, but there was water here and there in the grass where I was standing, and some rivulets of water were coming down a hill or one side of the depression. While thinking where to place myself for a good view and how to avoid what appeared to be intermittent ground or marshy water I noticed more water starting to come over the top of the hill or depression cum valley. I scampered up the slope and saw powerfully flowing water coming from somewhere towards where I was.
There were houses there and the water quickly rose up and flooded them. The water was clear and not murky. I was worried that it would end up deeper than me and drown me, but to my surprise it stopped at just about my chest or chin level. The lay of the land in this urban area was not completely flat and I could see some streets and houses submerged. To my surprise I also saw a woman walking along presumably below the water level. She wasn’t being washed away. The water was so clear and still it was difficult to know its actual height. Perhaps the solitary woman was just suggestive of the water depth at that point being deeper than the height of a person. I looked around and noticed here and there things were partly above the water level. I splashed the water in order to better ascertain its depth, and it seemed it could be deeper than me but I could still breathe. I saw the splashes land on the surface of the water. The depth was marginally below my height. I was safe and fine.
I saw a young man and asked him, “What happened?” He replied, “A dam in Sydney burst.” Then more water came rushing along and he added, “There’s another one gone.” Now I – we -- had to find some higher land to climb up to be safe. We found a stepped wall and climbed up it. Putting us 3-4 meters higher, it would be high enough.
I wondered how I could report this and looked at my watch it said about 10 or fifteen minutes past 9:00 or 10:00AM. I said, “Dam breaks in Sydney at 10 past 9 (or 10).” I didn’t get the date. Then I woke up.
Well, I am unaware of any dams in Sydney and knowing how water shortage is such a problem in Australia I find it difficult to imagine how this dream could be true. It is, however, winter there now and so perhaps there is heavy rain on the way that might weaken a dam, though I didn’t see any rain in my dream. I didn’t see any loss of life, and curiously no damage; no houses or buildings collapsed. This could indicate that it doesn’t have to happen and is only a potential – or alternatively that it is just some kind of personal message for me. If not the latter, maybe there is something we can do to prevent it.
While the flooded area was urban it wasn’t downtown Sydney. I know that. It was more like a small suburb somewhere. If anyone is living down from a dam in the Sydney area please take all precautions to continually check it out, and have authorities keep a watchful eye on all dams for potential weakness, overcapacity or failure. If this dream is a visionary semiotic, or premonition, then it looks like two dams are going to fail in the Sydney region.
Take care and pass this on to anyone you know in the Sydney area.
Thanks,
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 497
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 04:22 am: |
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Hi CPL,
The Sydney drought is over. At one stage about 2 years ago dam levels declined to around 30% but thanks to normal weather conditions & rainfall since then our dams are about 85% full.
Warragamba dam is guarded 24/7. At one time years ago anyone could drive and park their car very close to the actual dam but no longer with all the security. Also people were able to walk across the top from side to side but that has now ceased except for arranged guided tours.
During heavy rainfall it remains customary to open the floodgates because the relevant authority is reluctant to allow a full accumulation of water due to the perceived danger of structural failure. However this emergency action often causes downstream flooding which does submerge low lying residential areas and cuts road access in places.
Yes there is a valley leading downstream from the dam.
A full dam holds around 10 years of Sydney's normal supply.
Cheers.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 532
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 09:11 am: |
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Thanks, Ramirez.
With a bit of luck then maybe all they'll need is to open the floodgates twice. Presumably the low-lying residential areas are forewarned by authorities?
With all the weird current global weather, however, perhaps coming rains will be more severe and cause bigger than usual problems this year, especially if the dams are already at 85% capacity. May everyone there take full precautions.
I'd appreciate it if you hear any news on this.
Thanks, again.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 498
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 08:05 pm: |
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Hi CPL,
My error .... should read 55% full on overall average.
The largest dam Warragamba has been further modified with a spillpast system whereby if a sudden deluge is experienced surplus water over a certain height can be diverted into a bypass channel containing a second spillway leading to the valley floor. This was deemed necessary after a huge flood in the 1990s when experience demonstrated that the existing spillway couldn't get rid of surplus water fast enough and the possibility of an overspill across the dam wall remained along with it's associated dangers.
Low lying area residents downstream of Warragamba are familiar with evacuating during heavy flood times which seem to occur around once every 10 years on average. In the past most of this land was used for farming, cattle - sheep grazing but gradually has crept in urban sprawl with housing estates now being developed where farms once existed.
There is a threat model existing which calculates that if Warragamba dam bursts the resulting flooding would affect around 16,000 houses.
The solution for solving Sydney's water shortage .... state government is planning to build a 100ML or 500ML million liter per day desalination plant which would probably require it's own power station to run. After years of talk still nothing definite is decided .... 100ML or 500ML, how to power it, where to locate it, how to finance it, is it really necessary ??? that's how politics operates
Cheers.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 533
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 10:11 pm: |
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Ramirez,
It looks like the average is 56.88% full for Sydney dams presenting no current danger.
This map shows the location of the dams or catchments: <http://www.iliveinsydney.com/water/rainfall/dam-catchment-map.php>. These figures seem old but the map helps show where the dams are. I think that 98.4% full for Tallowa dam and 84.5% for Fitzroy Falls were back in 2002.
I read the Campbell town area dams are currently more full than Warragamba. The map does appear to show some lakes and scenic areas near Warragamba, though, and also Gosford.
Correct me if you know I'm wrong.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 534
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 09:36 pm: |
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Ramirez,
Really appreciate all the info there. Maybe it's not Waragamba dam but another, or two others then? Most dams have villages or valleys downstream that become threatened when the dam is endangered. I believe the valley in the dream was very picturesque and well known for such.
Is there a very picturesque valley downstream from one of the Sydney dams? Especially one with a little lake and attractive pink blossoming tree?
I heard of Sydney's potential desalination plant from my brother in Perth. Surely would be better than relying on dams, and worth it in the end as the weather worldwide waxes weird and more extreme.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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