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    Marbar Member Post Number: 148 Registered: 12-2009 |
Hi J_rod7, Many prople think that marriage means falling in love with each other, getting married, and having kids. That is a big contributor to overpopulation. Rod, you should really tell people marriage does not mean having kids. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1361 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hi Marbar, You are so right. It's so unfortunate to see couples fall under the spell of simple infatuation, or to fill a thirst for the lust of the flesh, marry without the knowledge or sense of true Love. From such unions are born children which already feel that emptiness, the lack of true Love, or worse - the endless arguments over money, envy, jealousy, suspicions of adultery. Such unions without the maturity required of both members of the union soon end in divorce, with the children feeling unloved and abandoned. Many times the mothers and the children end up on the welfare rolls, and the children become delinquents and criminals. They, in turn, will carry on as they have learned from their parents, and the cycle goes on and on. The text from Billy addresses this issue, as is written in the pamphlet: A Crusade Against Overpopulation. This is also found as: Petition For A Worldwide Controlled Birth Stop, at this link: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Special:Petition The Circle For Humanity sends this full text revised as CFH - A Road Towards Humanness, a document condensed into five pages (permitted by Christian Frehner) worldwide to all organizations, heads-of-state, groups and individuals with the intent to reach every Human Being on the Earth. A 'tall-order' which needs to be done to bring awareness to all rational people for the reduction of the global overpopulation. This is why we are reaching out in as many ways as possible in every direction as possible - to put the brakes on this run-away population train. -- The greatest dangers lie just ahead of us all unless this trend can be reversed. Here following, is the pertinant section of these documents relating to the appropriate marriage and childbearing measures. Required Worldwide Measures --- These measures apply to everyone on Earth except for some small, native bush tribes, who have practiced their own form of stringent birth control measures since time immemorial. Minimum age for marriage = Female: 25 years, Male: 30 years Minimum age to produce offspring = Female: 28 years, Male: 33 years Criteria for procreating --- • An existing marriage of at least 3 years • Proof of a healthy, harmonious marriage • Proof of irreproachable conduct of the marriage partners • Proof of ability to raise children • Proof of health no hereditary and infectious diseases, no addiction to illegal or prescription drugs or to alcohol, etc. • No affiliation with extremist or subversive groups Maximum number of children = 3 children per marriage So by these measures, there are certain persons which should NOT have ANY children. It would be our wish that a requirement for a bond of Love were included in these requirements, but the philosophers and policy-makers have found that you can't legislate morality. Salome *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1363 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Best Greetings All, I see that I forgot to provide an address for the main-page of the Royal Society. Reference the appeal posted here:::... http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/11397.html#POST52075 The main-page has the explanation and the reason for their call for well-considered input to formulate a policy on Global Overpopulation. We here in the FIGU Forum have an unique perspective on this issue, so any submissions from the members will raise the awareness of the policy-makers to issues they may not otherwise consider. ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ People and the planet: The role of global population in sustainable development ["Population is a global issue which is moving back up the agenda. In the run-up to the December 2009 Copenhagen conference on climate change, a number of academics and NGOs called for a fresh look at the factors affecting and affected by changing population. Yet debates remain polarised: some people still see population as a distraction from the more urgent imperative of reducing resource consumption in the wealthiest countries. Others argue it is an issue that will solve itself, as global population size is projected to peak and then fall from the middle of the 21st century. ... ["The aims of the study are to provide policy guidance to decision makers and inform interested members of the public based on a dispassionate assessment of the best available evidence. The scope of the study will be global. It will explicitly acknowledge regional variations in population dynamics. It will look at the implications of population decreases, and increases that are observed and predicted in different parts of the world. It will consider how scientific and technological developments might alter the rate and impact of population changes and affect human well-being."] http://royalsociety.org/People-and-the-Planet/ There remains one-month to prepare a paper for input to the Royal Society. For additional resources you could consider for ideas in any submission (maximum = 4-pages), please spend some time reviewing the articles posted at the Circle For Humanity. http://www.thecircleforhumanity.net Salome *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 195 Registered: 01-2009 |
Greetings, Just to let you know that a certain Carlos Celdran, a Tourist Guide in Manila, protested against the meddling of Catholic Priests on the issue of Reproductive Health Bill by showing a placard with the name "DAMASO" written on it right infront of Priests and attendees inside one of the oldest church in Manila during celebration of a Mass. He was incarcerated and had to bail himself out. Damaso is a controversial character of a Friar set during the Spanish era in a novel by our National Hero Dr. Jose. P. Rizal. should you be interested search Free Carlos Celdran account from Facebook for a better set of perspective where it gained a very large and vocal participation from both the faithfuls and the not so anymore. For whatever it is worth, even negative publicity is good publicity which hopefully work for the issue of World Population control. btw, here is an animation about projected world population: http://www.populationeducation.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=175&Itemid=4 Jun My will be done | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 196 Registered: 01-2009 |
Greetings, Should you be interested, please search Population Connection at Facebook so you can get the video on World Population for free. Jun My will be done | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 197 Registered: 01-2009 |
Greetings, Correction please, it was not done during a celebration of a mass. It was only during an ecumenical meeting inside the church which was formerly a burned down house of a Muslim leader, Rajah Sulaiman. For the record. Jun My will be done | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 365 Registered: 07-2008 |
Peace in wisdom be with you, This weekend, our group of volunteers on the promotion of overpopulation awareness and the advocacy of a worldwide, ethical and democratic system of birth control started reaching out to the United Nations, through a petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/overpopulation-awareness-birth-control/ Feel free to drop by, spread the Word! An interesting development on this issue: 'PAPAL VISIT: GREEN NGO ATTACKS "INHUMANE" CONTRACEPTION BAN' "The Optimum Population Trust today urged British Catholics and non-Catholics alike to protest strongly to the Pope about the ban on contraception. OPT Chairman Roger Martin said: "The Catholic Church does much good in the world, but the effects are nullified by its uniquely inhumane doctrine on, and campaign against, contraception." The number of mostly poor women dying of pregnancy-related causes equates to one every minute, four jumbo jets full of pregnant women crashing every day. Some 40% of these pregnancies are unintended; and scores of thousands of these deaths each year result from unsafe abortions by desperate women denied access to family planning; while condoms remain the most effective form of AIDS-prevention, yet in short supply. "Empowering women to take control of their own fertility should be a basic human right, which the Catholic Church constantly tries to deny them," said Mr Martin. "It is not just the women's own health which is affected, but that of their children. Every mother subsisting on a dollar or two each day knows that her children would be better fed if the available food is divided among, say, four children than ten." "Furthermore, almost all the poorest countries now acknowledge that rapid population growth inhibits their development and degrades their environment", he went on. "As UNICEF said as far back as 1992, "Family Planning could bring more benefits to more people at less cost than any other technology." Yet the Church campaigns against it". The All-Party Parliamentary Group on Population, Development and Reproductive Health 2007 report 'Return of the Population Growth Factor' demonstrated the link between rapid population growth and failure to meet the Millennium Development Goals. "Population growth in all countries, along with excessive consumption by the rich, are the two main drivers of all our looming environmental crises - food, water and energy security, climate change, and peak oil," continued Mr Martin. "As our Patron David Attenborough says, all these would be easier to solve with fewer people, and ultimately impossible with ever more." "In any case, we all know our finite planet cannot sustain an infinite number of people; so population growth will definitely stop at some point - either sooner the humane way by fewer births through contraception, reproductive health and women's empowerment, or later the natural way by more deaths through famine, disease and predation/war. There is no third alternative of indefinite growth. By campaigning against the former, the Pope is in fact campaigning for the latter." "He should be brave enough to do the decent thing, change the doctrine, and so do immense good to the world, at no cost, in one minute - as his predecessors were urged to do by the overwhelming majority of the 1964 Papal Commission. His refusal to do so does immense harm to women, the poor, the planet, and future generations." NOTES FOR EDITORS: OPT is an environmental charity, think-tank and campaign group, aiming to increase awareness of the environmental impact of population growth through campaigning, education and research. It was founded in 1991 by the late David Willey. Its patrons are: Sir David Attenborough, naturalist and wildlife film-maker; Sir Partha Dasgupta, Frank Ramsey, professor of economics, Cambridge University; Paul Ehrlich, professor of population studies, Stanford University; Jane Goodall, founder, the Jane Goodall Institute, UN Messenger of Peace;John Guillebaud, emeritus professor of family planning and reproductive health, University College, London; Susan Hampshire, actor; Dr. James Lovelock, originator of the Gaia theory; Aubrey Manning, broadcaster and professor of natural history, Edinburgh University; Professor Norman Myers, visiting fellow, Green College, Oxford; Sara Parkin, founder director and trustee, Forum for the Future; Jonathon Porritt, former chair, the UK Sustainable Development Commission; and Sir Crispin Tickell, director of the Policy Foresight Programme, James Martin Institute for Science and Civilisation, Oxford University." www.optimumpopulation.org Salome, Adam - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1394 Registered: 02-2000 |
Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs - Updated 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE My Website | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 566 Registered: 10-2008 |
The ten biggest American cities that are running out of water . http://finance.yahoo.com/real-estate/article/111186/the-ten-biggest-american-cities-that-are-running-out-of-water | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 51 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello all, Anyone know the answer to the following two questions; (Q) Do we have a sufficiency of capable technology that can convert ocean water into desalinated fresh water? (Q) If not, except for NAVY Aircraft Carriers, can this technology be implemented and how long would it take? Thank you, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 343 Registered: 07-2009 |
1. Yes, reverse osmosis systems exist and do that kind of purification. 2. It is implemented in different parts of the world. There are always price and other considerations. | ||
Johnnybalmain Member Post Number: 119 Registered: 11-2007 |
Hi Eddie, Check this out. They are building a trial commercial scale undersea wave energy farm of the coast of west Australia right this moment. It produces electricity and/or fresh water. http://www.carnegiewave.com/ Peace John | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 53 Registered: 08-2010 |
John, Thanks for that link. Fascinating. I like this concept better than anything I've seen so far. It's good that fresh water shortage may not pose the threat that it could one day diminish greatly. The reverse osmosis water would need to be ionized with minerals as reverse osmosis filtered water is very acidic and stripped of minerals. One reason R.O. water going through copper tubing puts copper into your water. This type of water is not good for the body without ionization. Nature intended and designed that our water should be ionized and of an alkaline pH. Analyze glacial mountain and spring water for comparison. The Russians made some startling discoveries regarding this and the Japanese have had great success with the findings and expanded on the Russian technology. Thanks again! Eddie [7:-) | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 367 Registered: 07-2008 |
Peace in wisdom be with you, One of our partners on overpopulation awareness forwarded the following document to us: 'Science Summit On World Population: A Joint Statement By 58 of World's Scientific Academies': http://dieoff.org/page75.htm It appeared, that already back in 1993, at the 'Delhi Science Summit On World Population', a research panel of 58 World's Scientific Academies reached the consensus, that Earth is severely overpopulated and that birth control is a condition sine qua non for sustainability. And as all could see, no much bas been done since then... Salome, Adam - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 157 Registered: 12-2009 |
People giving birth to unwanted kids is a great example and contributor of overpopulation. A good example of this is Nadya Suleman aka "Octomom". This woman wanted her own reality show, so she decided to have some human embryos implanted in her. Twelve embryos was injected into her, and she ended up getting pregnant and giving birth to 8 infants. Now, those eight children she now has are not wanted and they will grow-up feeling that way. | ||
Tachyon Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 09-2008 |
I agree with you, Marbar. Remember that guy who took some people hostage at The Discovery Channel building in DC? Apparently a list of his demands were take shows like 'John and Kate + 8' and 'Octomom' off TV and other shows that promote the problem of overpopulation. I can't say I disagree with the man. I just did a search on the subject so see how it ended, I saw nothing anywhere about that list of demands. Just that he was crazy and police shot him. The man is dead now, I suppose no one cares that those shows are still on TV? It's ridiculous. I for one don't want children anymore and I tell everyone it is because the world is overpopulated and it has caused so many problems around the world. I also tell them it is probably a shame that my DNA won't passed along until the masses realize they can't they just can't have unnecessary or unwanted children anymore. Ben, | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 311 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Ben, another factor of overpopulation appears to be humans being incarnated when they aren't ready yet. Coming back too early and not having learned their lessons from a previous life will make their current life, a life of having to learn basics. I say this because my two older children are able to learn from others mistakes. My youngest, born in 1996 will make every mistake possible. In his previous life he was killed in battle so he seems to have twice as many lessons to learn in this life, than the other two. See contact report 112. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 344 Registered: 07-2009 |
How do you KNOW he was killed in battle? | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 486 Registered: 05-2008 |
Justsayno, how do you know your youngest "was killed in battle" in his previous life? | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2054 Registered: 12-1999 |
Contact 112 relates to the incomplete development of male traits when the reincarnation cycle is "disturbed" which is in reference to males dancing with women etc... In addition since Billy is incapable of discerning ones past, how is it possible to know this information otherwise?...Humans do not reincarnate, but rather the spirit form reincarnates into another human body/psyche. | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 625 Registered: 04-2006 |
Theoretically a human being can access former his/her former personalities storage banks, but storage banks are unique and untrasferable. Simply said, people can access their own storage banks, but not other people's storage banks. More info in the Billy Meier Q/A section (29 Nov 2009): How was Sfath able to access the NOKODEMJON storage banks? Nokodemjon provided for this to happen. There were two ways for gathering that information: 1) When Nokodemjon’s (N) and Sfath’s (S) spirit forms were simultaneously alive/incarnated, the person with N’s spirit form confided secret knowledge to the person with S’ spirit form. That knowledge then was stored in S’ storage bank, from where Sfath could retrieve the former knowledge. 2) The storage bank of each person’s spirit form has its own wave length/frequency, and the knowledge etc. that is stored within that electromagnetic/spiritenergetic frequency can only be reached/contacted by that specific spirit form. However it is possible to get some „random“ information from other frequencies if there is some „harmony“ between the two frequencies. It can be compared with an old radio where you find the clean sound by turning a knob. Before you reach the clean sound you just hear a buzzing sound or some fragments of the broadcast. In the same way it is possible to draw some fractions of information from another spirit form’s storage bank. That’s what Sfath was capable of. Sorry for being off-topic. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 314 Registered: 10-2009 |
Thank you Hector for that explanation. You are much more eleoquent than I. But I have to disagree with your assessment that people can only access their own storage banks. I mean what if you give them permission and they have your frequencies? Michael & Bruce, how do I know? I know because it was used as an example as to why he was always hurting his left arm in this life, which had been cut off in a battle in which he died in another life. He's right handed but always puts out his left arm to shield himself or stop his falls. He fell out of a tree and broke his left wrist when he was 6. It seems to explain the habit. But as I said before, I can prove nothing. My practitioner knows things about me that I've never told anyone. It's because my body and spirit have given her permission to delve into my secrets and to help me address them and figure them out and forgive people. Believe me, if my body did not want her to know things, it wouldn't tell her. After searching for an explanation from Billy's teaching why this is the wrong method, I could find nothing wrong with it. Unless someone is aware of some teachings that dispels it? This is a small example of what it does: http://www.bodytalksystem.com/learn/access/cortices.cfm Just as Billy is claustrophobic because of a previous incarnation, everyone has some weirdness that is not explainable by anything that may have happened in this life. I'm pretty sure Billy has the ability to see one's true personality. He did after all pick you, Michael to be his representative. Do you think that was by chance or do you think he could feel your intentions were pure? If he could feel that your intentions were pure, what else could he have known about you? http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_112 Billy: That sounds just as if such men are not full-fledged men because due to the incarnation cycle disturbances, they are not fully pronounced as male life forms, evidently in this case because of a too premature birth of the new personality? Das hört sich gerade so an, als wenn solche Männer nicht vollwertige Männer seien, weil sie durch Inkarnationszyklenstörungen, in diesem Fall offenbar durch eine zu frühzeitige Geburt der neuen Persönlichkeit, nicht voll als männliche Lebensform ausgeprägt seien? Quetzal: 58. That is, in a certain framework, of correctness, and on the other hand, the incompleteness of a male life form does, indeed, appear if he calculatingly gives himself over to rhythmic movements, so to dancing, as you said. 58. Das ist in gewissem Rahmen von Richtigkeit, und andererseits tritt die Unvollständigkeit einer männlichen Lebensform tatsächlich in Erscheinung, wenn er sich wunsch- und triebberechnend rhythmischen Bewegungen hingibt, dem Tanzen, wie du sagtest. 59. Your explanation in the form of questioning corresponds to the exact correctness and ascertainment of the facts. 59. Deine Erklärung in fragender Form entspricht der genauen Richtigkeit und Erfassung der Fakten. From this excerpt it's easy to see that dancing is not the only thing that is affected by an incomplete life form. If our overpopulation is bringing back people "too early" think of all the other lessons that were not completed while they were inbetween human lives. Does anyone honestly believe that dancing is the ONLY consequence of an incomplete life? Scott, in which contact report does it say that Billy is unable to discern ones past? Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 346 Registered: 07-2009 |
JSN, According to my understanding, you are effectively calling your son's situation "karma" here, which Billy addresses in An Interview with a UFO Contactee: "...Therefore, in their next life, humans will benefit from the fruit of their former lives' progress and higher level of consciousness, without having been weighed down by some or non-burden from previous lives. Thus, the next new life is not based on the burdens or non-burdens of the previous life, since they were completely conquered during the former lifetime, either in positive or negative ways.. Not only would it be unjust but it would actually be contrary to the Creational laws if elements of a former life were to be carried over into the current one." I don't know anything about Billy's claustrophobia and, based on my visits with him in his rather small and extremely crowded office space, he certainly doesn't seem to exhibit any signs of it. As far as why Billy picked me, perhaps a few factors played a large part: 1. I volunteered, 2. There weren't any other applicants standing around, 3. If i don't do a good job I can be replaced (just like in real life). Billy will also certainly admit that there were people who misrepresented themselves and "fooled" him for a while. He's just a human being and can make good and bad decisions, choices, etc., too. As for Body Talk, I am familiar with it and I think it's an excellent system for many things, from what I've seen. But that doesn't mean that all parts of it, or all of the information/interpretation is absolutely correct. And, if Meier's information about past lives, reincarnation, etc. is correct, it would seem to contradict some of the interpretations offered via Body Talk, for example, regarding that area. |
