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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 360
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 06:36 am: | 
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"For example Billy and Asket could visit Jmmanuel only because that event already happened in the past, so they didnīt changed absolutely nothing."
But how then did their first trip to Jmmanuel's time commenced ?
All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Memo00
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Post Number: 479
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 03:55 pm: |
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Mahigitman
There is no first and second trip, both are one and the same.
It is like if today April 20, 2011 i am visited by "myself" from the future (lets say from 2050). It means that with absolute certainty in 2050 i will do a time travel to the year 2011 to visit myself.
Salome |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 10:18 pm: |
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If Jmmanuel(32 AD) was visited by Billy(1964), then it means that all of our previous and future personalities are living at this moment, NOW & can visit(possible for only advanced personalities) each other personalities at will.. Damn, it raises many other questions...
A(2011) feels now as present & thinks he has freewill to choose his life/career & feels he can change future.Also, AA(2100, future personality of A) also feels then as present & thinks he has freewill to choose his life/career & feels he can change future..But, if we stand and observe from a absolute framework & not a relative framework...we know that according to Creational Laws, we cannot change past...so we can exactly predict 'A's life/career....Wait, then can we say that 'A' has no freewill ?..i dont think so , i think, the meaning of freewill is completely different from what majority assume it is..Even if 'AA' can determine what 'A' does, 'A' still has freewill.
"we cannot change past"..hmm
A(2011) is relatively past to AA(2100), AA(2100) is relatively past to AAA(2200)...But each one of them thinks they are in present & feels they can change future.
'A(2011)' thinks future is uncertain & he can change future(2100) but 'AA' also is living simultaneously in 2100 & feels NOW as certain but not as uncertain as what 'A" thought. So 'A's actions in 2011 influences 'AA's actions in 2100 ...So are the concepts,"present", "past", "future" have different meanings all together ?
Can we say, that there are different frequencies of same spirit-form existing as different personalities at the same time..
All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Memo00
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Post Number: 483
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 06:57 am: |
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Mahigitam
We all have free will. The fact that our actions will have certain consequences and that it is possible to know exactly what will happen in the future doesnīt change this.
In this precise moment you are absolutely free to do whatever you like, you could do any unpredictable thing like suddenly going to the street and do breakdance or whatever. There is no "script" and no force that will force you to do what you will do, it is all the result of cause and effect.
The past and the future exist in different dimensions, and all are part of the same thing. I cannot tell you more because i donīt know much more (or i would build a time machine), i only drew some logical conclusions from what i have read from the material.
Salome |
Ufoman
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 01:25 am: |
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I want to change time for myself. Its personal. |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 571
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 08:55 am: |
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Ufoman,
You can't.
"The highest education is that which does not merely give us information but makes our life in harmony with all existence." - Rabindranath Tagore
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Edward
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Post Number: 2062
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 02:08 am: |
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Hi Mahigitam...
Well, Billy did mention that there is in essence ONLY...: the Present and The
Future!
I have explained this in the past, here; perhaps you can utilize the Search
Engine? We should not have to repeat ourselves when the information is already
posted(; it can only make the matter more confusing for some...).
And, yes...naturally...every Personality has their own contents, Vibration
frequencies, etc. Every incarnation is a New Programming of yourself, so to
speak, for the next incarnation; even though we start with a New Slate. The
object is still to regain our Neutral-Positive stance in life/existence within
Creation; which is our UR configuration of BEING. But we in our incarnations
can Perfect this, as intended by Creation...as we go along.
Well, Billy and Jmmanuel...were both 'different' in Spirit format(:
Consciousness, etc.), so to speak. The contents of Jmmanuel was/is more
different than that of Billy. Billy is just a much more Evolved and Advanced
Personality and Spirit-form than that of Jmmanuel(; as I mentioned above...
still Perfecting ourselves....).
Thus, even in time travel they both are TWO different and distinctive
(human)beings/Personalities.
This has also been discussed in the past, in details.
Edward. |
Ufoman
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 09:26 pm: |
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Can I make a conact with any sirian benefators or the sirian creator lords themselves. Not I have a right to take a life to protect my right from the lyrain an those with lyrian blood. I consider those with Lyrian blood not my race but lyrain thus I will not help them and I will defend myself from them if they evercome. I want a few answers. Perhaps how they created these warrior races. |
Memo00
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Post Number: 484
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 06:51 am: |
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Ufoman
No you canīt, and from what i can tell from your post you probably need some medical advice. Please realize this not an attack or anything but you seem to be really confused and it would be a good idea to visit a psychiatrist.
Salome |
Ufoman
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 02:52 pm: |
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I' fine the way I am but I need to make contact with the sirians. |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 361
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 08:26 pm: |
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For what purpose, Ufoman?
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Matt
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 01:22 am: |
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Ufoman, you certainly are out there!  |
Egerrt
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 03:41 pm: |
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Hello, is there a contact report that tells about Meier travelling into past? If there is, what number it is? |
Edward
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Post Number: 2140
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 02:18 am: |
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Hi Egerrt....
Billy's time travel into the past, has been discussed here in the past.
You may want to utilize the Search Engine to obtain more insight on this?
I have no Contact Report number, alas...
Edward. |
Derrick
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 01:00 am: |
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Hello Egerrt,
Asket's Acquaintanceship is a good start.
Go to:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Main_Page
use the search engine and type in Asket's Acquaintanceship or time travel.
Salome Derrick |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 598
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 02:23 am: |
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Hello Egerrt,
Try the Asket reports: http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Asket_Contact_Reports
"Beauty is truth's smile when she beholds her own face in a perfect mirror." - Tagore
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 387
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 05:28 am: |
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TIME TRAVELS
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Asket's Explanations - Part 1, 3rd February 1953
Asket's Explanations - Part 3, 7th February 1953
Asket's Explanations - Part 4, February 9th, 11th 1953
Asket's Explanations - Part 5, February 14th, 1953
Essense of the Notes - 6 days of travel trips
CR 35 (Time Shift)
CR 039(Time Shift)
CR 76, 1977(leap back in time)
CR 109(leap back in time)
CR 141
CR 142
CR 176, 1982 - [3 days on ERRA but 5 hours on Earth]
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Taken from the torrent, "BILLY MEIER UFO CASE - CONTACT REPORTS(1 TO 501) + MORE "
http://torrentz.eu/8e470efd514f96a7c323f82b723f2ad2f677a22e
The great Truths of Philosophy are not proved but seen - S.Radhakrishnan
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 389
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 05:46 am: |
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Jechiele lamp in history
Asket: ..I already know it because I have already been there twice.It belongs to a rabbi named JECHIELI, who enjoys the open countryside now and then.
Jechieli:So there you are again - it has been years since the last time you were here.But who are these two men?
Asket: Friends of mine.They are from a distant land which you do not know.
Jechieli: Do they come from the stars as do you?
Asket: No, they are from this world - from yours - but from very far in the future.
Jechieli: You told me about that once...
How did Asket come to meet Jechieli infact they met twice?
Was there any relation for this acquaintance & the title Jechieli received in history books as a magician, which could only come if Billy gave his torch & Jitschi gave his electric fence energiser ?
Also Jechieli knew about Asket as someone who came from stars & also from future.The story about 'magic lamp in 13th century' must also be in history books even before BIlly made his trip because the book "History of Magic"(19th century) by Eliphas Levi can only be written from even more older books,long before BIlly made his trip. Does anyone has a better picture of this time travel trip ?
The great Truths of Philosophy are not proved but seen - S.Radhakrishnan
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Earthling
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Post Number: 575
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 12:34 pm: |
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Mahigitam:
Think about it; the Plejaren and others involved in 'the Mission' (Asket et al), have basically only (exclusively) been in physical contact with the Nokodemion lineage for purposes of The Mission. This includes the druid
prince Myrddin, alias Merlin.
Perhaps, and more than likely, Merlin and Jechieli are previous personalities of Billy's, in between incarnations as prophet. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 432
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2011 - 05:52 am: |
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I like Earthling's speculation.
And. speaking of Merlin, please see the new site for all the Adventures of Billy Meier comix...including the newly illustrated one, again by Andrew Towl, about the Merlin info:
http://theadventuresofbillymeier.com |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 613
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2011 - 03:47 am: |
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With time travel there exists the possibility that an interesting experience will present itself to Billy in future .... within a few years.
An elderly woman will arrive at the SSSC in company with a man. She will identify herself as Asket and announce that her traveling companion is *******, Billy from a future re-incarnation visiting himself in the past just to get an actual experience of what it's really like and to see firsthand exactly what his previous life was really like ..... last go as prophet.
Like sands in the hourglass are the days of our lives and like sands in the hourglass are the re-incarnations along the longer journey.
Like frames on a filmstrip.
It is OK .... she will live a long time, long enough to accomplish this.
I wonder how surprised he will be .... as surprised as J was 2000 years ago or did he know it would occur and what was transpiring when it happened ?
I wonder if ******* will take back or is that forward a souvenir ?
Cheers.
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Truthseeker
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Post Number: 344
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 05, 2011 - 02:21 am: |
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to Ramirez, Actually that won't happen because after Billy's passing in this life, the Plejarens well permanently leave Earth until hundreds of years later when Earth humanity eventually finds away to penetrate into their space. Billy will be finally finished his incarnations as prophets and contactees, but that's not to say that he won't have other future incarnations, where for example he could incarnate next lets say as a girl in Russia in say about the year 2075, where he could possibly and eventually become a head of state there to introduce new strategies and ideas relating to the unification of a global peace to that of bringing about 7 year periods in birth stops, etc. Not that it would happen like that, but one can only imagine similar possibilities.
James Truthseeker |
Earthling
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Post Number: 576
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, August 05, 2011 - 09:04 am: |
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Regarding Ramirez speculation above: If Asket was visiting Billy today at the FIGU center, could Asket also time travel back in time from the future with a future incarnation of Billy's to visit Billy & herself?
Iow, we know that Billy visited his previous incarnations through time travel, but can someone visit their present incarnation through time travel? |
