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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 08:45 pm: | 
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Hello Marbar,
Interesting post. My thoughts are the following on the subject you brought up in your question.
CREATION has established a set order (Laws & Recommendations) designed to assist in the progression of the evolution of all human-Beings. From the small amount of study I have thus done, your question brings the following to surface in my mind. Every form of technology, to every advancement of technology, is a Natural part of Creation and can or should be considered a "blessing" since it permits further advancement in understanding Creation itself. There are clearly Beings from higher evolved levels with power enough to stop anyone from doing anything; consider that Asket's time-traveling ship is made of molecules which these Beings have no difficulty manipulating. Billy had expressed that in some cases you can bring things back and in some cases you can not, etc, etc.
Also, in the Contact Notes, you will read where Semjase was excited about her new ship with time-travel technology. How this technology was a gift from Asket's people to the Plejarens. I believe Asket's people had received it from Beings more advanced (evolved) than her people. It appears that CREATION gives this technology (through the higher evolved) to those who have attained a certain level of spirituality (Responsible-Ones) as it is mentioned in The Goblet of Truth. Consider that Asket's people had guarded this technology with great care and responsibility.
Anyone entrusted with this technology is privileged, and I would think, encouraged to travel to the "dawn of time" and every other point in time which their consciousness inspires them to travel to. What marvels awaits us? Consider that at the speed of light, a galaxy 10 million light years away, can at best only be seen as a reflection of how it appeared, from our standing point. With that technology, we could go there through hyper-space and then go back 10 million years and experience first hand what may have happened on a world there.
I am certain that CREATION can't wait until you and I one day travel with these technologies and expand our consciousness, intellect and spirituality to higher levels. Rather than shocking, I believe your question is inspiring!
Great post,
Eddie
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Edward
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Post Number: 1925
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 11:19 pm: |
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Hi Marbar....
Well, I think there would be NO inhibition to such scenario(?).
The Plejarans do speak of going back into time (far far back) to gather
whatever information they need to acquire(; and if not with the help of the
Spirit Levels).
If Billy can remember of 'his' time of existence as a Animo acid, there would
be the possibility to enter such early time frame of Existence. That is why,
Technology is there for, no? Utilize it properly to acquire and accumulate
(Creational Spiritual) information, insight, Knowledge, etc.
Man, himself, has his limitations of course (technology-wise, etc...), and
this....will/can only be his hurdle to limit his acquiring of insight,
Knowledge, etc. But, in general, as he Perfects his technology, etc., the
hurdles will be a lesser obstacle/obstruction. And when he reaches the
Half-Spirit level...his possibilities are much more feasible than in his past
as Full Material human.
Thus, as you can notice: MAN will be 'rewarded' in his endeavor through his
Evolution, as intended by The Creation. Again, as usual: MAN/YOU have to WORK
for it! Just keep on Perfecting.
Edward. |
Memo00
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Post Number: 451
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 05:44 pm: |
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Hello Marbar
i think that there must exist a physical limit to how far in the past or the future one can travel, for example there will be one time in the very distant future where there will not exist human beings anymore because we all will have reached the pure spirit level, also i doubt that one can just travel to the time of the big bang because no one would be able to be there (physically).
Anyway i think it is a good question to ask to Billy.
salome |
Edward
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Post Number: 1930
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 07:50 am: |
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Hi Memo and Marbar....
As far as I know, is...that if we(Plejarans or whom ever is that highly
advanced in Time Travel) travel back say to, the UR Great Void...it can be
done, but...only with the proper technology.
We have to keep in mind, that there are crafts/ships which CAN do this, due,
to the craft/ship being surrounded by some sort of shield, which protects them
and their anatomical body structure as well as that of the craft/ship. Similar
to the Beamship specifications....only in a broader scale advanced technology
for that purpose of Time Travel, of course. They will have no Physical body
harm. Thus, I think they can conjure up such technology which can generate an
- Artificial - state, in which it can be(come) a realty.
Possibly, the Great Spacer has such technology available to achieve this?
Or, another type of similar ship for the mentioned purpose...?
Edward. |
Bodhran
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 10:31 am: |
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Hi all, I posted this question in the general section but it really needs to be here so I've copied it and the first response to it so the discussion can go on from here in the right section....
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I was reading through the latest translations on futureofmankind about Askets translations and the trip back to the 13th century with Asket, Billy and Jitschi when they meet the rabbi/magician Jechiei, Jitcchi is clearly told by Asket that he can bring back objects given to him by the rabbi but that they would not be recognised as antiquities by modern science because they would not age in the transition, this is completely understandable.
But I also read in Q&A to Billy where he states that:
There are three different (physical) ways to travel into the past with different effects:
1) You can go there but cannot bring back anything
2) You can bring something into the past and bring something back into the "present" = future (as has been the case with meeting Jmmanuel and Jechieli)
3) You can see everything in the past, but you cannot be seen by the people in the past; therefore you cannot bring or take anything.
Is there another explanation as to why Asket said he could bring these objects back?
This was edwards response:
Hi Tony....
As far as I can recall, is: that the situation with Billy(/Jmmanuel) was an
Exception, just as other sort like instances. It was IN the scenario, so to
speak. Part of the Mission, and part of his acquiring insight, etc.
Us, common humans would have to take heed to your list.
We have to keep in mind, that...our Future had not yet been in/a reality as we
know it: it still has to be MADE! MAN, has to WORK towards it. Just like,
someone of our time can NOT kill anyone in the Future due...to the Future
still has to be MADE; even thought, the Present and Future 'layer' each other.
And, in the 'between time', the Future scenario can still CHANGE, with another
Out Come as we go along, Creating our/the Future. Thus, our Future is NOT
(yet) Binding, if you will. Free Will, still takes her stance...and Alteration
has her Possibilities.
Edward.
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Thanks for that Edward but It was Jitcchi that Asket was talking to about being able to take things back and according to the notes his meeting with Asket and Billy was a random occurrence and not forseen by Asket so most likely was not part of the mission plan, anyway does that mean that when Billy is talking about not being able to take objects back through time he is talking about in specific circumstances?
It appears that he is making a statement that it is not possible to take anything back at all from the past? If anyone could clarify this I would be grateful. Thanks
Salome
Tony.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 528
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 05:00 pm: |
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Hi Tony,
When traveling to the past or future the traveler continues breathing so ...... after leaving time X and stepping back into the craft isn't there still air from that time existing in the travelers lungs and bloodstream ?
How much difference is there between air and a more solid object which exists in a particular time - space co-ordinate ?
Cheers.
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Bodhran
Member
Post Number: 136
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2010 - 03:47 am: |
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Hi Ramirez,
that also makes sense, just wondering why Billy said that you could not bring anything back when asked in the Q&A? Any ideas?
Salome
Tony.
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 546
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2010 - 02:31 pm: |
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Tony: "...just wondering why Billy said that you could not bring anything back when asked in the Q&A?"
I think you have misread the answer. In the second methodology of time travel that Billy cites, you can bring something back as was the case with meeting Jmmanuel and Jechieli. Billy is saying, however, in the other two methods you can not bring something back.
Regards
Bob |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 529
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 04:50 am: |
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Hi Tony,
"just wondering why Billy said that you could not bring anything back when asked in the Q&A? Any ideas?"
Here you might provide something specific quoting Billy's actual words or contact report info.
However i'm assuming time travel facilitated by technical means (spacecraft with the required technology) is meant.
So then:
1. This is logical if the occupants go on a sightseeing excursion thereby hovering cloaked over an area or event at some particular space - time co-ordinate so as to not raise alarm and in that way not change history. It's probably happened many times.
So using the crafts remote viewing screens or telemeter discs as remote cameras one could visit the desired place or event but leave and take back no material objects.
2. Well, for Billy at least and off course the others (Asket, Semjase, Quetzal, Ptaah) it could work this way.
Hitch a ride to some desired time - space co-ordinates via spacecraft and if the atmosphere is suitable go on a consciousness journey - (astral projection) whereby the actual consciousness could mingle with the crowd unnoticed and unrecorded, however also unable to interact in any way or retrieve - deposit material items.
However ..... not sure if those named would be prepared into going "visiting" as the shamans do.
Maybe for them it's more practical just observing through the craft screens 
Cheers.
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1372
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 01:00 pm: |
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Hi All,
As far as time travel goes, you can only travel back and forth where TIME actually exists.
In considering the movement of objects back and forth through time, logic dictates consideration of the Law of Cause-and-Effect. IF there were any effective changes from moving objects through time, this would generate a new time-line. How many alternative time-lines could exist? This would be speculation from our perspective.
Before the "Big Bang," the Space-Time dimensions did not exist. After the dissolution of the Universe, when Creation rests between creations, there will not then exist any dimensions of Space-Time there either. The Void, by definition, is a state without dimensional qualities.
To travel back and forth in Time may only occur within the limits of the existence of the Universe.
Peace in Wisdom
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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 530
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 05:18 am: |
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Added to information concerning time travel is this:
"(Explanation from September 5th, 1975, Hinwil, Switzerland.)
Billy.
Then we still made several special small preparations before Asket took us into outer space again with her ship and then carried out the transmission into the past.
Our landing place in the past, in the year 32, was the same place where we had taken off only minutes before; minutes which, however, now suddenly lay about 2,000 years in the past.
I am still able to remember very well that the entire landscape of the past was only very slightly different from the way it was in the
normal present time of the year 1953.
So apparently the time jump must be made outside earth's atmosphere. How far outside is not reported.
And this:
Asket.
70. With our ship, if I may so speak, we bridge space and time by way of a transmission through parabolic space, whereby space and time become finite and shrink to a denominator of a split second.
71. That means that we can, in this way, bridge time-spans of billions of years in a tiny split second without becoming older than that specific split second.
Also this:
Billy.
"I also observed the same process in regard to myself, and in the moment of the "jump" it was, to me, actually as if I suddenly no longer corporally existed. Somehow I felt transferred into something which I sensed as being eternity itself and in which an indescribable silence and endless, calming peace and enormous love ruled."
Anyone who has experienced what is commonly known as a spontaneous kundalini experience (sometimes also referred to as a spiritual emergency) or an unspontaneous one with the assistance of ayahuasca which is not a drug, rather a substance which temporarily disempowers the bodies natural DMT regulatory substance monoamineoxidase, thereby allowing the bodies natural DMT to take full effect will be familiar with this state.
It appears to be identical to that which Billy describes and since Billy didn't have a cup of herbal tea ..... what happened is interesting from that perspective.
Cheers.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 345
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 08:40 am: |
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I think we have to be careful about what appears, from the ingestion of some substance, to be "identical" to a state/experience that is not caused by taking something internally but rather by highly developed technology that seems to affect everyone the same way at the same time in the process of accomplishing an enormous scientific/spiritual task.
I also think that it may be wishful thinking to want to avoid referring to ayahuasca as a drug, as it is described as a psychoactive substance, i.e. a psychedelic, etc. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 531
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 02:17 pm: |
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Hi Michael,
With the ayahuasca .... i have not it tried myself but have experienced the spontaneous unassisted by substances state several times.
So in that respect i like to rely on information from others .... not books or writings but discussing experiences face to face to make comparisons.
You might be surprised, or maybe not that not all who try ayahuasca are raving lunatics, deranged excitement seeking freaks or junkies. Also it affects different persons in different ways according to their overall state of mind.
Recently i was fortunate to find two persons prepared to discuss their experiences, one who had spontaneous ones, the other ayahuasca induced/assisted ones and both stories are virtually identical concerning memories of the actual experiences, descriptions of mental states, description of observations in and after such states. These are intelligent reliable articulate persons who were not aware of my own experiences when telling their story.
That ayahuasca triggers psychedelic/ non ordinary experiences is not in question, however what becomes interesting is that persons who have tried it would relate their experiences candidly without embellishment and compared to spontaneous non ordinary states ...... it's essentially the same insights, overall experience, participation in different levels of reality - awareness.
Now with some stuff Billy writes you must agree it's not ordinary is it ? However due to his evolution Billy seems unaffected by the theatrical dramas that might arise for newcomers to these states, so is able to pretty much carry on regardless whereas for others it becomes .... wowee, something hugely exciting, mysterious, overwhelming, expansive, virtually indescribable.
Examine the record of US AMA plus other authorities responsible for labeling substances.
Tobacco was for decades considered harmless but green weed is considered .... satan's temptation, road to ruin, dangerous, prohibited.
Alcohol is still considered OK and sold by the gazzillions of gallons, cocaine, heroin, speed etc are easily available and if anyone cares to dig into that a bit hardly an effort is made to stop the sale and use of these substances but natural psychoactive substances added to tea .... what are the authorities who turn a virtually blind eye to alcohol, cocaine, heroin, amphetamines etc frightened of ? .... is it losing their monopoly on revenues from illicit distribution of recreational substances .... which off course are not exactly recreational but dangerous, debilitating, often fatal, certainly destroying societies but most importantly ... creating huge industries to treat, cure, process, label, lock up hapless users.
What are we talking about ? Billy claims to have experienced and described a certain state when zipping back & forth in time. Others have experienced what appears to be an identical state, some spontaneously, others with the assistance of substances however it appears to be the same state when compared. That's what's interesting. When the concept of time is disempowered seemingly strange things happen.
Cheers.
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Bodhran
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Post Number: 137
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 05:32 am: |
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Hi Ramirez you asked for the quote from Billy I was referencing, it was from a q&a session the question was from thomas:
"Thomas
Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 04:51 pm:
Hello once again Mr Meier. My question is about TIME TRAVEL. You have once said to us in your responses that it is impossible to bring objects from the past into the future. There are two instances in the contact notes where this has occured (well actually once in either direction). For example Asket said that she had previous acquired clothes from the past during previous time travels (you and Mr Jitschi wore these clothes when you accompanied Asket to the past of Jmmanuel's time) and you also left your light and battery with the magician man of the past, whose name I have forgotten. Can you explain the apparent contradiction for me? It might help my understanding of how time travel and things related to it work. Thanks sincerely!!!
Answer
There are three different (physical) ways to travel into the past with different effects:
1) You can go there but cannot bring back anything
2) You can bring something into the past and bring something back into the "present" = future (as has been the case with meeting Jmmanuel and Jechieli)
3) You can see everything in the past, but you cannot be seen by the people in the past; therefore you cannot bring or take anything.
Billy does not know how this is technically achieved."
Also Ramirez when you talked about the air in your lungs coming back from the past with you into the present, that isn't necessarily so as during transit you are completely transformed into energy in a process governed by creational laws I presume so in theory anything could happen to molecules from a substance that was not supposed to travel with you. Maybe the air is replaced as you reform in the present...?
Anyway still no answer as to why Asket told Jitcchi he could bring back objects?? Maybe Billy simply did not know you could under certain circumstances. We have to presume that Asket knew what she was talking about.
Salome
Tony.
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Sonik_01
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 11:26 pm: |
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Hi Guys,
1) If you do a "viewing" so to speak, you can't bring anything back, such as is the case when Billy does (or used to) look into the future or past using the force of his consciousness. Therefore, you can't bring anything back.
2) If you use a ship and open the hatch, you can bring clothes back or any objects, and also leave objects behind as was the case with Jachieli.
3) If you use a technical device, like viewing a TV monitor on board a plejaren ship, you can see the past, and study the past, but you can't bring anything back.
I hope this solves the riddle.
Salome. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 534
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 06:42 am: |
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Hi Tony,
"Also Ramirez when you talked about the air in your lungs coming back from the past with you into the present, that isn't necessarily so as during transit you are completely transformed into energy in a process governed by creational laws I presume so in theory anything could happen to molecules from a substance that was not supposed to travel with you. Maybe the air is replaced as you reform in the present...?"
Unable to recall the Contact Report but there was mention of something connected to this. It was a contact describing Semjase's accident and efforts to get her medical attention.
From memory it was some Sonaer medicos who teleported themselves and their equipment (without using any craft) into the Plejaran medical unit to perform an emergency procedure on Semjase.
So the mystery there is threefold.
Firstly they can achieve teleportation for themselves without any devices apparently through mental powers alone.
Secondly they are able to carry equipment and presumably clothing with them on such a journey.
Thirdly .... how far could they teleport themselves ? Did they use a craft with transmission drive (teleporter) to get close to the Plejaran planet ?
Seems incredible and if someone can find that contact report .... more mysterious things to ponder.
So it appears time and space present no boundary to physical objects dematerializing then rematerializing. How this occurs .... good question.
Cheers.
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Schantz
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Post Number: 131
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 08:25 am: |
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Science magazine breakthrough of the year 2010.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/12/17/beam-teleportation-years-biggest-breakthrough/ |
Edward
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Post Number: 1962
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 24, 2010 - 11:04 pm: |
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Hi Schantz.....
Always interesting reading concerning Teleportation.
Will take us several Hundreds of years before we can truly implement such
technology; thinking of even the Plejarans having had setbacks which...
resulted into Misformed individuals/subjects due to their technology 'know
how' being limited at one time; of course, they have now Perfected it and
booked excellent results. Same stage we have to experience to gain greater
Knowledge of the concerning, before it can be implemented in our daily lives.
Quite a Challenge....
Edward. |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 304
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 07:04 am: |
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Can terrestrial UFo's travel at the speed of the light. In one of the contact reports Billy was told that some secret groups developed & are using a technology by using teleportation, and tested in Billy's house, which is also the reason for various disappearances of objects..
What a thing is relationship, if we closely observe, relationship is much more subtle, more swift than lightning, more vast than earth, for relationship is life - Jiddu Krishnamurthy
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Edward
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Post Number: 1963
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 11:58 pm: |
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Hi Mahigitam....
Your: Can terrestrial UFo's travel at the speed of the light.
Well, I would think that (terrestrial) Space Crafts (for some UFO's and for
other IFO's) from our Future will have that ability, of course, just as they
are going - Back into Time -, to visit us, or say, their ancestors...as is
mentioned in the FIGU Materials. Their/Our...technology would indeed be quite
Advanced at some time in their/our Future to make traveling at - Light Speed - a
reality, and common usage.
I am familiar with objects disappearing in Billy's house, yes. Quite an
interesting aspect and explanations.
Edward. |
Edward
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Post Number: 1978
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 12:22 am: |
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Hi Suv....
Will post this one here, ok?
I think we CAN speak of: Higher - Evolved - Dimensions(/Time Configurations),
though.
Even our own Mother Earth, is LAYERED with different (Dimensional) Evolution
Levels, within her surrounding. Each Dimension Evolving at their own Pace; one
being Higher Evolved than the other. Take for instance, our own Evolution
Level: within our OWN Dimension we could still lack behind with others that
were created at the same time as the other Dimensions in its collective, but,
due to our to days circumstances, we lack behind. So, those beings in those
Higher - Evolved - Dimensions, can be MORE Advanced and Developed than our
Dimension.
Edward. |
Alejandrogutierrez
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 03:20 am: |
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Me gustó mucho el saber que Billy haya sido llevado al tiempo dos veces mil años, hacia el pasado y que sorpresa fue para mi leer en sus conversaciones. No conozco a nadie de ustedes, pero si estoy interesado en saber que sucedió.
Por favor, Habla Inglés
Scott-Moderator
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Teesoft
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 01-2011
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According to the Plejaren you cant influence the past because it has already happened but Billy brought somethings back from the past and regarding you not able to kill anyone when you travel back intime does it mean your gun or weapon will not work or the person will not simply die? And another question is regarding the Plejaren directly viewing the future to get prediction which respectively you cant change but same time they said the future is not written on i do not understand this things. I will like to hear anyone who understand this things better. Thanks. Salome! |
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