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    Pele_ii New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2011 |
Dear Forum Members, Greetings from Brazil. This is maybe a question & comic complain for the Plejarans, but I appreciate any opinion. I am studying the teachings for around eleven 11 years. In eleven years I found only another two Brazilians that are familiar with the mission & teachings. So we are a total of only 3. Little more than 200 million people in Brazil. 1% would be 2 million. Now, 0.001 % we have 2000 Brazilians. How that can be possible? Only 3 persons in a country of 200 M??!!!! In America we may have 2000 active students/participants?? How come such extremely, powerful material have so little participation in our would?!! Feels very lonely, especially with the difficulty to share with others about Billy, the Plejarans etc. Does anyone have some statistics about this matter in other countries ? Salome, Ricardo | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 639 Registered: 10-2008 |
Bienvenidos , Ricardo ; Welcome to the forum , and don't worry about not having people close to you physically who understand these principles ; the distance makes it harder for them to punch you . Of course , I joke . here's another ; George Bush , as president , was informed of Brazillian casualties during the Iraq war . His response was " How many is a Brazillion ?" Salome , Mark | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 482 Registered: 03-2004 |
Ricardo The answer is very simple, only a very little part of today human beings are able to comprehend the truth, most are sick mentally (religiosity is a mental sickness), and/or lost in the illusion of materialism. Fortunately things will change with absolute certainty, but it requires some centuries. Most probably there are more persons than you think that are interested in the material (not thousands but more than 3 definitely), just that you don´t know about them. For example here in México i know of like 5 persons (i remember reading about one passive member but don´t know more about him). Salome | ||
Pele_ii New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2011 |
MemmOO, thanks for your reply. But still, 5 or 6 in 150 Million people, for Mexico!! I wonder if the Plajerians have the right number for the real students for each country. Mexico and Brazil, I believe are on the same boat, regarding massive catholic background.=20 =20 Salome, Ricardo | ||
Pele_ii Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2011 |
Greetings from Planet Brazilis =20 Mark, thanks for your reply. You are right about that =93the distance makes it harder for them to = punch me=94, but I am still trouble by that. Such a opportunity to be in touch = with the real true, and here they are, the Catholic Church, where the = Brazilians count for 61% of all the Catholics in the world !Good news is that this number has dropped from 74% in the last 10 years. =20 Bettewn catholics and evangelics , we have more than 400.000 churches in Brazil !!! I am a happier, more fufilling person, since I start to studie the theachings, but still on my human misery puzzle by the fact that are = =93only=94 3 people in this country that =93knows=94 the material.=20 By being a human, I am imature and na=EFve , so, I would not exitate a = second in complain with Pttah about how come only 3 in a country of 200 = million.! =20 Salome, =20 =20 Ricardo | ||
Borthwey Member Post Number: 226 Registered: 09-2007 |
Oi Ricardo, saudações de Portugal There are the statistics of the Future of Mankind website, have you ever checked them? They can give an idea of how many people know about Billy and where they are located, though it it can't say what they actually think of him... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Website_Statistics David | ||
Ufoman Member Post Number: 27 Registered: 03-2011 |
I have many complanits about plejarens. First off all will they leave star system alone? What if no a star system doesn't want plejarens there? Heck what if that star system doesn't welceom lyrian lineage in general? So if I colonise a enmty star system with no life surely It is conisder my home. So I don;t want them there nore I want there ways of doing things. I have my own way. | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 645 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Ufoman you can compare the Plejaren with the spanish people, who are distant descendants of the american conquerors. Sure that the spanish "conquistadores" like Hernan Cortes did many grave and wrong things in the past. Other conquistadores also teached the native americans a few good things. Some tribes in south america still offered human sacrifices to "the gods" five centuries ago. They killed human beings (babies too) in the altar and offered them to the gods. Those rituals ended when the conquerors came. Canibalism was quite common then, and the conquerors tried to eradicate it. The spanish people today cannot be accused of the wrongdoings of the spanish conquerors. We are distant descendants of Cortez, Pizarro, Columbus etc... As a spaniard, I cannot be judged for what our ancestors did five centuries ago. Spain has a certain moral responsibility with the countries in latin america. We left a certain cultural and historical heritage there. That means Spain must help, assist and collaborate with the emerging countries in that region. Now let's compare the Plejaren role on Earth with the spanish people's role in south america. Well, it's almost exactly the same. You have a certain moral/cultural responsibility for what happened in the past. You cannot directly interfere in souvereign countries affairs, but you must be their ally, their counselor, their point of reference. Best regards. | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 200 Registered: 04-2006 |
I think we should put this complaint section on permanent hold, all it ends up being is a collection of fine whine. People, we must focus on our own business and quit blaming some long dead ET's for all of our problems. Instead lets take responsibility for this planet starting with working on correcting and managing our affairs in life with utmost diligence. For all we know we could be one of the ET spirit forms that are directly responsible in some way for past Earth transgressions anyway, with no small probability.... Peace, Matt | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2070 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Hector.... Well spoken! That was my take on the Spanish Conquerers, also(; I mentioned similar in the past, here and at the previous PAR board). Just like the case with the English and the European Conquerers; which was similar to what the Hebreaons/Jewish committed in Palestine: all in the name of their Judeo/Catholic/Christian GOD. And the place for them as the Plejarans should be that they Correct all the BAD/WRONG doings their ancestors committed; which was not always in the name of a Godhead, but, only to Enslave the inhabitants and Portray themselves as GODS; which Influenced the above mentioned Conquerers in their horrifying deeds of destruction, as result. As you can see, that such LIE can have Devastating Affect on all life forms. And that is WHY it is well in its place that Billy comes in...with the Spirit(ual) Teaching(s), etc., and Directs us all in the appropriate Direction, for the Betterment of All. Back to Relegeon and not the Deceiving Cult Religion Indoctrinations.... Edward. | ||
Jedimexicano New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello, I do understand the feeling of loneliness in relation to the search of truth. I do not have certainties, but the logic tells me that it is quite possible that the truth can be found through Billy Meier's and Plejaren's teachings. That is why I have decided to start studying German, aiming to be able to translate those teachings into Spanish. I am glad to hear that there are other Mexicans whom are interested in these teachings. It would be great if someday we could conform a group of FIGU in Mexico. Meanwhile, I will continue studying German, which is not a very easy language by the way. Hopefully, other fellows in Mexico -or in other Spanish speaking countries- could also study German -if they do not know the language like me- and more of us could achieve in less time the challenge of translating the teachings into Spanish. All the best, JAIME | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 491 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello Jaime this is not the best place to post that info, it would be better for example in Discussionboard of FIGU » The Mission » Study Groups? By the way i´m also Mexican, you can contact me in: memoweb01@hotmail.com Salome | ||
Jedimexicano New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Memo, I do agree that my post did not match with the topic of this discussion board. Nevertheless, I wrote it here because of what Pele_ii mentioned, and furthermore in relation of what you mentioned. In fact I was aiming to get a response from you, as I got it, for which I thank you. Of course I will write to you. All the best, JAIME | ||
Ufoman Member Post Number: 33 Registered: 03-2011 |
Ny problem is that pliedians force their ways on to other ETs not just earth. ------------ Ufoman, You have made your complaints, and there is nothing you can do about it, so it is time to move on and work on yourself as has been suggested by all the writings from Billy and FIGU. To spend unwarranted time on complaints about the Plejaren is a waste of the precious time we have to evolve and make this existence better for all in the process. Robyn Moderator (Message edited by indi on May 21, 2011) Ufoman, Can you explain why the address and location you have listed in your profile does not even come close to your IP Address which corresponds to an entirely different country? Are you tying up this board for lack of anything else to do? Can you please explain this? Scott-Moderator (Message edited by scott on June 09, 2011) | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 01-2011 |
they watch me and mind scan me. it's a problem for me that lead to a downward spiral .... i just don't know what to do. a little help please someone ? Edit by Jacob Please understand that the Plejarens dont watch and scan you, I am really serious that you do need professional psychological help urgently. (Message edited by jacob on June 09, 2011) | ||
Redhalls Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2010 |
Hi, "they watch me and mind scan me." These are much highly evolved than us and basically they only do the right thing. So surely they aren't going to steal personal secrets or other wrong doings - in contact notes they also say they only use this power for very important reasons. They're good people and basically the fact they're tens of thousands of years spiritually better evolved than us makes me rest assured they won't come here do anything they like and wrong doings. I think people are considering them like us, but only their human shape is, not their way of doing things, etc. We would probably send spies or think about it but they're not like us. And I mean if you read contact notes, the spiritual teachings, etc it should make totally common sense they're good and aren't do wrong doings here on earth. In this contact report http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_2, starting from line 23 Semjase says to billy: 23. If I want to investigate your thoughts, then I do it only if it appears important to me. 24. It is neither our ways nor our desire to simply penetrate the thoughts of others unless it is really important. 25. Besides, none of us have the right to penetrate into the personal secrets of others. 26. If one penetrates the thoughts of another person, the danger always exists of discovering more than was actually intended. 27. Were we also to ignore this law, we would be able to decipher even your most intimate thought processes and secrets, and you could not amaze and astonish us again and again. and there are more explanations about this... Karl | ||
Sarah Member Post Number: 54 Registered: 10-2011 |
The only real issue I have, is more to do with whats on FutureOfMankind. It has to do with the Overpopulation petition largely. Isnt there another way to keep them from reproducing, like taking shots or other form of contraception? I do have other issues, but i decided not to express them, since they'll probably work themselves on their own. Their is a good chance I'll be getting the goblet of truth around christmas time, maybe that will clear up some of my complaints. I'm generally not a confrontational person, so finding complaints is kind of...akward.O_o ------------- Sarah in case you are not aware, the Goblet of Truth is available for free online as a pdf in both English and German. The final chapters will be completed and it will all be still available for free. http://ca.figu.org/Goblet_of_Truth.html Robyn (Message edited by indi on November 28, 2011) | ||
Redhalls Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 03-2010 |
The Plejarens as far as I know have given clear instructions on what to do for overpopulation to decrease. It has to do with global birth control, such as people won't have more than 2 children globally or things like that. Karl | ||
Sarah Member Post Number: 74 Registered: 10-2011 |
Oh I figured that much Redhalls. I just wondered if there was anything wrong with choosing not to have kids.^^ By the way, since reading the Goblet, a lot of things has been clearer.:3 | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 195 Registered: 12-2009 |
I have another complaint against the Plejarens, it is about the impulses they send to some people. I don't understand why won't they send impulses to the religious leaders on this planet telling them that the are such horrible people for ruining humanity. | ||
Dez Member Post Number: 36 Registered: 05-2011 |
Maybe all our religious leaders are too far gone in their delusions and religious beliefs for impuses to have any affect/success on them. And if there was some success cases, these people can't do anything about it because they would have to toe the party line so to speak. They would have no choice but to leave the religious organization which defeats the purpose. I think its a lost cause and a waste of time the Plejarens sending impulses to any religious leaders and is probably the reason why they didn't. | ||
Teesoft Member Post Number: 101 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi Marbar you have to remember the impulse the Plejarens send is a Nuetral positive impulse and it isnt in a conscious form so when you receive the impulse you wouldnt know its origin it will only hit you as if a thought just came to your mind, and we all know it that not every new idea that comes to our mind that we act upon....So the sender still have to decide if to act on the new thought/idea and you know very well how this so called religious men and women of God are do addicted to there delussion that they will give the idea a second thought but rather they will only say it is Satan testing them..... Also another factor is even if the pastors were changed one way or the other i can tell you there congregation woulnt believe them when they come up and tell them everything they have been told is rubbish and there is no God or savior they will only view there pastor that the devil has worn to his side cus most people cant live anymore without believing a god or savior or whatever.... So my friend now you can see your idea cant work. thats why the P's didnt waste there time trying (i think) Salome, Tosin | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 125 Registered: 07-2006 |
Marbar and Dez, There is a reason the Plejaren do not use suggestive impulses on anyone religious. See my unauthorized/unapproved translation in blue. Extract from contact 504 (30 Oct 2010)} Ptaah: Die Regel ist leider die in bezug aufeinen religiösen oder gar religiös-sektiererischen Glauben, dass sich dieser auf die Gene auswirkt und von dieser Seite her auf den massgebenden Schläfenlappen derart stark wirkt, dass nicht wider den Glauben gehandelt werden kann. Der einmal festgesetzte Glaube übt eine derartige zwingende Macht auf Verstand und Vernunft aus, dass diese einfach lahmgelegt und funktionsunfähiggemacht werden. Das bedeutet, dass der Mensch, wenn er einem religiösen Glauben verfallen ist, in bezug auf die Entscheidungsfähigkeit hinsichtlich des Glaubens und all seiner Zusammenhänge nicht mehr Herr seiner Sinne ist. Also können durch den Glauben in bezug auf diesen selbst sowie bezüglich all dessen, was damit zusammenhängt, keine verstandes- und vernunftsmässigen Gedankengänge mehr gepflegt werden, weil der religiöse Glaube den Menschen umfänglich befangen und zu seinem Sklaven macht. Folgedem bewegt er sich unbewusst in jedem Augenblick in seinem Glauben, und zwar mit untergründiger Angst im Falle, dass er etwas gegen seinen Glauben denkt oder handelt. Und wenn aus den unbewussten Gedanken der Angst auch dementsprechende Gefühle entstehen, dann verrennt sich der Mensch erst recht in seinem Glauben und findet keinen Weg, sich davon zu befreien. Ptaah: The rule is, unfortunately, the successive terms in religious or sectarian belief that it affects the genes, and from this point on the authoritative temporal lobe seems so strong that it can not be traded against the faith. The fixed belief exerts a mandatory power to reason and understanding that they are simply paralyzed and made inoperable. This means that man, if he has succumbed to a religious belief, in relation to the ability to make decisions concerning the faith and all its connections is no longer master of his senses. So can faith in relation to this self-respect as well as all that goes with it, no intellectual and rational thought processes be maintained because the religious faith of the people caught up extensively and making them its slaves. Following the moves he unconsciously at every moment in his faith, and with the subtle fear in the event, that something he thinks or acts might be against his beliefs. And when they arise out the unconscious thoughts of fear also corresponding feelings arise, then the man gets carried even more so in his belief and finds no way to get rid of it. PatM |
