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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 09:23 pm: | 
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Shalom Mohammed,
Yes I got the star chart from that site, however, I never researched anything further pertaining to his findings or revelations. Once seen by myself, it sparked something inside that was once shared to me a while ago through unusual circumstances. It just seemed to fit and confirm that what was given even though, it may have been cryptic in Nature, is meant as a sign of a new beginning where old beginnings have ended. It is, I feel a confirmation of sorts that a traveler of long ago has returned to consciousness to guide and protect that which we truly are! I will take your advice and study his works further. Perhaps it will shed some more light on this ever continuing conundrum of mine! |
Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 161
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 06:17 am: |
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Hi Derreck:
Please read the PDFs in this link: http://www.figu.org/ch/index/downloads/translations
pineal-gland.pdf
sixth-and-seventh-sense.pdf
from my personal insights, I have come to discover a few things.
But don't be discouraged if the sensations stop, because a few factors are involved, amongst them, stress, quality of food and water, quality of your own thoughts, intent (do you intend to develop hidden powers for the right reason?), and so on. So, progress can be hindered by your own thoughts. I am just a learner in this area as well. Taking my first few baby-steps.
The lines on my signature on this forum from Billy and from Quetzal, are just from some of the contact notes, where the translation is that Quetzal intends to keep to a minimum the number of words in his responses, and just go to the core of the point quick. You can use an online translator if you wish, while you learn the language.
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Derrick
Member
Post Number: 49
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 09:19 am: |
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Hi techieatwork,
Thanks for the info...very good points here.
I have been using a translator for some time now.
German is difficult for me but,of course, I do understand the significance.
Thanks also for the link.
Salome
Derrick |
Derrick
Member
Post Number: 50
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 11:09 pm: |
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Hi friends,
I have looked at many of the Plejaren symbols and to my recollection I have not seen the symbol
that represents the petale level. Is there one?
I would imagine that there is but I have not found it yet.
I wonder...if it is like a lotus?... I keep getting that in my mind.
Am I in error?
I also want to tell all here that I love this forum and I really appreciate all of the help and spiritual guidance that has been so freely given to me. I'm sure Billy would agree, that this forum is important to our spiritual evolution. And by these posts that we share, we truly are learning how to live with one another
and trade our thoughts and feelings and cognitions interpersonally as true human beings.
Hey!...this is the miscellaneous section right?
Salome my good people
Derrick |
Hawaiian
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 10:43 pm: |
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I have experiences in these so called "paranormal" incidences and would like to share just one of several that occurred in the past. It's just a short summary and not detailed simply because it depends on the responses or feedback from others.
Just wanted to share some interesting experiences and observations regarding these occult dark forces since I’ve encountered such on a number of occasions and have applied my scientific training in evaluating such events more recently utilizing some of Billy’s explanations in this area. Not all encounters are of bad types, some are quite reasonable based on its particular environment and sometimes-human activity disrupts its tranquility and causes problems until some resolution is made for mutual harmony existence. Yes, you heard it sometimes co-existence is possible so long as each respects each realm accordingly.
In both the ether (dream) or physically waking state, your pineal gland will activate and “sense” these negative forces before your Conscious does, the area in the back of your neck will become extra sensitive so much, that the hair will stand up similar to when static electricity from recently dried laundry is passed over the neck.
Next, one will notice a drop in temperature when occult forces are physically near as its “essence” are often endothermic and draws warmth away. I noticed during one encounter at night that the flashlight started to fade and finally died out within a minute. (Found out later that both D-cell batteries, although brand new was completely discharged and bulb burned out) At this stage most people are often gripped in fear and will become disoriented, one should remain vigilant and be prepared to face it for the truth, whatever it is will always prevail. It is this FEAR emotion that causes much harm and should be replaced with awareness instead. These forces are of the “natural” kinds and are easily overcome by meditation and proper mindset, actually one can become “used to it” and co-exist somewhat.
Normally I usually don’t even mention such encounters because either it causes so much fear in some or gets ridiculed by those who refuse to acknowledge occult forces because lack of experience, ignorance or trying to explain away such matters with their “logical reasoning’s”, often based on Hollywood movies and not truly scientific in nature. These matters are best observed the same way as one would do in remote viewing, being detached from the physical attributes as well as the Conscious, but aware none-the-less. This awareness can only be developed through hard self-discipline and meditation with clear sight; formal scientific training is a plus.
Not sure if anyone would care to read the exact details of such encounters as I am trained to remove all subjective personal comments while describing the actual events. |
Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 166
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 01:18 am: |
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Aloha Hawaiian.
I'm listening. Please share more details.
I am interested in learning how to project my own vision to remote places. At will of course.
Can you share the technique you use to position yourself in that state of higher perception.
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 584
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 02:47 am: |
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Hi Hawaiian,
Sounds interesting, please go ahead.
Cheers.
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Egerrt
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 09:00 am: |
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I've read somewhere, don't remember where, that Plejarens' UFOs have a small reactor, as small as a football is size. Does anyone know what is the source of energy is that reactor? |
Hawaiian
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 12:39 pm: |
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Thanks, I will compose this one encounter that occurred before I was aware of Billy's material. It is just one of several and you'll have to make your own decisions based on my observations at that time. It happened about 20 years ago while working on a sugar plantation located in some mountain area next to a valley. All the events are still engrained in my mind as do the others as well, I have a photographic memory of such events since as far as I remember.
One other incident happened in a haunted house I lived in for about 2 years and another more pleasant encounter with half material/spiritual being at age 18 months or younger.
Not sure if the moderator will allow me to post these encounters as it will encompass over a dozen pages because of its detailed analysis (interaction between my thoughts and reaction by these "entities") which is a gift I have since child birth.
I'll complete the first one which shouldn't be more than 5 pages. Right now I need to get some other things done and will return before the end of the weekend....Aloha
Hello Hawaiian,
I'm not sure which section would be appropriate to post such a lengthy explanation of your experiences. I would suggest contacting one of the moderators in advance regarding your intentions, so that we can review it and decide what would be best.
Regards
Scott-Moderator
(Message edited by scott on May 14, 2011) |
Hawaiian
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 06:09 pm: |
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Techieatwork,
Actually you don't "project" your vision to remote locations, you must first "train" your Subconscious to recognize your "requests" to visit remotely your ether body which senses events of that particular place. It takes intense discipline between your Conscious and Subconscious.
Remember always (refer to FIGU special bulletin 038) that the material body via pineal gland, psyche and other factors including the 6th and 7th senses are electrical/magnetic and most importantly NON-material spiritual energy all combined to form a very astonishing Being that can utilize wonders beyond imagination.
The Subconscious I refer as the "voltage" or electrical pressure and the Conscious I refer as "amperage" or current or material value so to speak. These are technical terms to relate to electronics but similar in nature to terms used. Voltage can be increased by frequencies and the value of the Conscious must REMAIN outside of its boundries which require a response that only a Conscious can do. Almost forgot to mention, that this whole "body" of interconnections is like a capacitor that stores your Equational Potentials which enables one to tap into other realms of equal potentials...more on this later on.
For example, while dreaming in the ether you may come across a situation that requires an imediate response like in a dangerous circumstances of falling off a cliff, if it elicts FEAR, then the Conscious takes over and you wake up. But if you are aware of being in the ether and know that your ether body is non-material and not subjected to harm, fear will be overcomed and you can actually start flying and doing many more things including time travel.
Direct questions or requests to the Conscious will prevent the required inter action and trust between the Conscious which is dominant during waking states and the Subconscious which knows everything and never sleeps. Sorry if this is rather long, but I do not know your current evolutionary stage in remote viewing and gave you some basic knowledge. I would highly recommend reading "The Seventh Sense" by Lyn Bachannan, there are techniques I used that worked.
Before going to sleep I usually condition my Conscious to be in the next room and remember objects that stand out by leaving my physical body and go with your ether-body to that location. You must use direct commands like "I will be here" not "I'll like to be here", there can't be any guessing otherwise your Subconscious will ignore it.
It takes practice and probably a couple weeks before it begins to occur, keep a diary and write down as much as you can remember. So far I've noticed at least 4 different stages or realms during the ether that one can experience. The first is strictly being an observer, second an active participant where events center around oneself, third a sort of abritator between two opposing views and forth interacting telepathly without speaking or using logical reasoning, being aware of emotions. Once I found myself speaking a strange language, yet understanding what it meant, yet when I tried to pick out one word to relate it to English, the whole experience of being aware was instantly lost!
Therefore I assume this state is what BEINGS actually experience as being ONE but not separate in a material sense. Very hard to describe since experience is often "reserved" for each to experience...hope this makes sense? |
Hawaiian
Member
Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 06:18 pm: |
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Techieatwork,
Actually you don't "project" your vision to remote locations, you must first "train" your Subconscious to recognize your "requests" to visit remotely your ether body which senses events of that particular place. It takes intense discipline between your Conscious and Subconscious. Remember Billy's notes on the "Dangers of Thoughts" and "Occult forces" that is why the Center is very reserved in these matters.
Remember always (refer to FIGU special bulletin 038) that the material body via pineal gland, psyche and other factors including the 6th and 7th senses are electrical/magnetic and most importantly NON-material spiritual energy all combined to form a very astonishing Being that can utilize wonders beyond imagination.
The Subconscious I refer as the "voltage" or electrical pressure and the Conscious I refer as "amperage" or current or material value so to speak. These are technical terms to relate to electronics but similar in nature to terms used. Voltage can be increased by frequencies and the value of the Conscious must REMAIN outside of its boundries which require a response that only a Conscious can do. Almost forgot to mention, that this whole "body" of interconnections is like a capacitor that stores your Equational Potentials which enables one to tap into other realms of equal potentials...more on this later on.
For example, while dreaming in the ether you may come across a situation that requires an imediate response like in a dangerous circumstances of falling off a cliff, if it elicts FEAR, then the Conscious takes over and you wake up. But if you are aware of being in the ether and know that your ether body is non-material and not subjected to harm, fear will be overcomed and you can actually start flying and doing many more things including time travel.
Direct questions or requests to the Conscious will prevent the required inter action and trust between the Conscious which is dominant during waking states and the Subconscious which knows everything and never sleeps. Sorry if this is rather long, but I do not know your current evolutionary stage in remote viewing and gave you some basic knowledge. I would highly recommend reading "The Seventh Sense" by Lyn Bachannan, there are techniques I used that worked.
Before going to sleep I usually condition my Conscious to be in the next room and remember objects that stand out by leaving my physical body and go with your ether-body to that location. You must use direct commands like "I will be here" not "I'll like to be here", there can't be any guessing otherwise your Subconscious will ignore it.
It takes practice and probably a couple weeks before it begins to occur, keep a diary and write down as much as you can remember. So far I've noticed at least 4 different stages or realms during the ether that one can experience. The first is strictly being an observer, second an active participant where events center around oneself, third a sort of abritator between two opposing views and forth interacting telepathly without speaking or using logical reasoning, being aware of emotions. Once I found myself speaking a strange language, yet understanding what it meant, yet when I tried to pick out one word to relate it to English, the whole experience of being aware was instantly lost!
Therefore I assume this state is what BEINGS actually experience as being ONE but not separate in a material sense. Very hard to describe since experience is often "reserved" for each to experience...hope this makes sense?
A word of caution, DO NOT attempt to remote another human being unless you're properly trained in utilizing certain "tools" to prevent harmful effects as that person's Subconscious via the pineal gland MAY sense your "intrusion" and trigger a feedback! |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2125
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 11:08 pm: |
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I think it would be more appropriate to continue this discussion under Spiritual Teachings/Consciousness Abilities/Powers
Thanks
Scott |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2080
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 01:57 am: |
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Hi Egerrt....
I do understand that - Electrons - in our existing environment play part in
the Plejaran Beamships propulsion (system). When harvest and processed, it
sort of becomes a very unsalable Electric type of energy source which can make
mechanical devices, etc., work. This is just a one configuration mentioned,
within though; others are also utilized to complete the whole motoric
mechanism system, so to speak.
It was discussed here in the past; you may want to utilize the Search Engine,
for more details?
Edward. |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 586
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 03:53 am: |
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Hi Hawaiian,
So far it's quite interesting and if finally you manage to find a thread somewhere to continue the story without interruption we might learn something unique & personal which would surely be a refreshing change.
With these sort of experiences it's something of an issue whether you are participating in some sort of external reality shared and populated by others including perhaps interdimensional entities or it's a product of your mind and existing solely as a self directed and produced interactive holographic movie that only you and co actors that your mind creates participate in.
Looking forward to more .....
Cheers.
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 2084
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 11:29 pm: |
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Hi Egerrt....
Correction on 'unsalable'; should be 'useable'. [Spell checker error...]
Apologies...
Edward. |
Falco
Member
Post Number: 9
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 02:41 am: |
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Dear FIGU,
Its been awhile since I last posted anything here. Anyways, just want to know, does anybody here knows whats the best way to deal with ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder)?
I've been trying to meditate according to the spirit teaching but I've been having a real hard time trying to keep focus. My mind just keeps wondering around way too much. My everyday life has been really difficult ever since I was a teenager.
I've tried looking up on this site regarding the matter as mentioned above, but there really isn't that many information about it.
I would really appreciate it if someone here can point me towards the right direction for some help. Thanks!
Truth leads to Wisdom. Love leads to Peace.
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 394
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 10:49 am: |
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> What's the one thing that you don't have trouble focusing on? |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 1402
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 12:02 pm: |
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Hi Falco,
Unfortunately, we are not "allowed" to post medical advice here.
The best advice is to get yourself out into the wilderness, take long hikes, get in tune with the rhythms of nature, and remove ALL artificial substances from your diet (including Fluoridated water, use only pure water).
Peace
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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Derrick
Member
Post Number: 52
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 03:44 pm: |
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Hi falco,
I completely understand your predicament, and" I" myself, had some issues with ADHD.
Meditation is definitely the answer to your problem, but There is also different aspects of self that need attention as well.
Along with the spiritual teachings of truth, and the recommendations of the creation, there are patterns that we have lived
by for a long time, and to change these patterns we must continuously be "self aware" of our own consciousness and
ban thoughts that are useless and promote thoughts that are of value. Practicing Listening to others helps allot.
To still the mind is a challenging task, but one must learn and start somewhere.
Personally, I found it helpful to focus on a symbol like the peace sign or on thoughtlessness. (no thoughts)
This can be achieved by staying completely in the moment...NOW...and hold it without wondering.
Start meditating for short periods like five minuets at a time.
What I found most valuable is an article by Billy translated by Vibka Walder called
concentration-Meditation-Sleep
Use the search engine on "future of mankind"
You can find it at the below link:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Talk:Questions_I_Would_Like_Answered
Peace and wisdom to you and much success.
Salome
Derrick |
Hawaiian
Member
Post Number: 9
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 02:15 pm: |
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Ramirez,
I understand your apprehensiveness of what the human mind is capable of "influencing" during the ether state in either dreams or remote viewing. Let me ask you these questions, have you experienced O.B.E Out-of-Body-Experience, been executed and woke up finding out that the person who pulled the trigger dies a few hours later or witness on various occasions people you never met before being played out exactly in the future?
How about experiencing what Zen monks describe as "Enlightenment" or "Nirvana" during intense meditation, which is actually establishing or merging with other Sub consciousness and reading the minds of others. It is a "state" of reality beyond the thinking processes a separation of material induced parameters beyond the reach of self-induced reality...it is awareness of being one.
When encountering occult forces in the real physical world or ether, you'll better be prepared to handle such crisis because your inability to control your mind or thoughts will be overtaken by these dark forces and one of the reasons for multiple personality disorders, the unreal becomes reality. I have experienced such and more and it appears you have not, so hope you understand why I won’t respond to those accusations of “self induced” influences but judge the facts being presented when I do the summary. It will be very interesting as sometimes things that appear initially will often evolve into sometime else, especially so when harmony is established amongst so call “opposing” forces.
Interesting you mentioned interdimensional entities influencing, yes there is that possibility since the Giza used telenotics to do their dirty work, who knows who are still trying to do the same. I actually ran into such encounters on three separate occasions, but will have to get Billy's approval for public release if at all. There are still some things that should not be discussed for the time is not appropriate or Earthly humans prepared for it.
I think the best way for you to "understand" this is for me to present this one episode in a narrative case study fashion, describing both the internal (self) processes along with the "external" responses and the interaction between both "realities". I am also trained as a scientist in conducting double-blind experiments and published articles in NIH and other fields of study, so any self-induced parameters will be eliminated, just the pure reactions stated.
Then you and others have to make your own decisions based on your particular attributes, but keep in mind that if one lacks similar experiences, then what you described as "self induced" mind influences need to be controlled otherwise your assumptions will be contaminated as well.
Now to Falco, ADHD can be addressed during meditation, use a lighted candle and concentrate on the candle flame as energy being exchanged from material to non-material, focus on the flame and try to merge into its energy, become the energy. Use earplugs to block out any audio distractions. If still being distracted, try concentrating on the flame's energy while at the same time in the "back" of your mind, redirect those distracting thoughts into the flame to burn it off.
It is what I call "bundling" these distractions into a concrete or solid idea like what one would do with scattered pieces of paper, put they in a bundle (idea) and toss it in the fire to get rid of it. You are actually training your Conscious to work collectively with your Subconscious and this is what ADHD is, the separation between these two that should be working as one. It also works when "sending" good energy to help heal someone at a distance.
I've heard of people actually using their thoughts to make the flame bigger or smaller by "influencing" its existence. It is just one exercise that works, hope this helps.
Aloha
Hawaiian |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 557
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 01:35 am: |
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Falco,
Along the lines of Michael's question: perhaps you can't keep focus on meditation or other things, because you only think you should focus on such things because you've been told you should focus on such things; do you really want to focus on meditation or whatever because its your desire or 'theirs'?; because 'they' told you that it's good for you and you should do it?
If you were starving, I doubt you'd have trouble focusing on getting your next meal; or if your house was burning down, I doubt you have trouble focusing on getting your ass outta there.
Sorry for the possible oversimplification. |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 11
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 05:50 am: |
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Does this ring any bells for anyone out there? As stated before in the past my team is 333!
Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs!
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Falco
Member
Post Number: 10
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 07:52 am: |
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Hey there,
Thanks a bunch for everybody's input. Really appreciate it!
@Michael_horn : Thats a question that I've been asking myself for a very long time already. Not really sure, perhaps only when I do physical activities e.g gym, swimming, and so forth. What do you have in mind?
@J_rod7 : Yeah I did that already. It didn't really help much. It helped for a bit. The problem is that its very hard to keep things in perspective when you are living in a very distorted environment (city life), whereby society that exist where I live tend to put so much high value into their materialistic lifestyle, as well as their religion. Don't get me wrong, I truthfully respect them as human beings, the problem is that, they don't seem to respect others. I'm living in Malaysia by the way just in case you're wondering. And in a way I am fortunate to be living here because there's an abundance of nature and greenery around here. But when you're living in a developing nation, it all gets destroyed very easily, to make way for a concrete jungle. Its really difficult to see that happening. Oh yeah, and by the way, pure water, like mineral water is actually really expensive over here. Its really weird the way how the system here works, because if you wanna eat healthy, and live a healthy lifestyle, its going to cost you an arm and a leg. But thanks for your input anyways. Appreciate that.
@Derrick : I appreciate that. Thanks a bunch! Yeah I know it takes awhile before you can actually really start to meditate. I'm really trying my best, and have been for quite sometime. The problem is that, I live in a high rise building in the city area, or at least close to the city area, and its really hard to ignore all the construction sounds that goes on, and they still go on all the way till the early hours of the morning. It happens every single day. Its not exactly easy to meditate under those conditions. But I appreciate that information that you provided. Thanks!
@Earthling : Yeah, I totally get what you mean, and that is exactly what I've been trying to do. I really do truthfully want to meditate, not because "someone" told me to do so, but because I just truthfully want to do it. I find it extremely difficult to shut my mind up and try focusing on nothing. But thanks anyways!
I just want to say a really big thank you to all of you guys that replied my cry for help. I really do appreciate it a lot! Please do keep it coming. I would really like to hear more about this situation, as well as receive more inputs from different perspectives. Hopefully someone on this forum with the same problem might find this discussion helpful as well.
Peace.
Truth leads to Wisdom. Love leads to Peace.
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