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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 486
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regarding the Flummoxometer:

Thanks Mark,

I am laughing up designs for such a device as you read this. It is a water-driven kinda RubeGoldbergish contraption, with lotsa shiny brass tubing, and enamel knobs turning ignorable Exactometer (TM) dials. The whole thing is shaking like crazy, seeming to want to run off in every direction, all at once. Right now the flummoxo-capaciter is reading around 2400%, but it hasn't yet reached TILT.
Fur leben.
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 658
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sitkaa , of course be sure to make the thing rediculously large and unecessarily complex , as a tribute to the state of the population at LARGE.

LOL ! Mark
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Kingman
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Post Number: 862
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Meier right again!

Here's an article that explains how dams are causing part of our climate change. It's not all of the explanation that Billy has given, but it does go to show how our thinking about our actions can be completely wrong, yet seem like the right thing to do.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-bosshard/how-dams-can-kick-up-a-st_b_873190.html
a friend in america
Shawn
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Scott
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Post Number: 2143
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In addition, the weight of huge volumes of water exerting tremendous pressures on a relatively small surface area...
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Edward
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Post Number: 2109
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 04:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Shawn and Scott....


I think the Biggest Dam in China which was just finished...is having your/such
mentioned problem, Scott.

They seemed to have failed in the calculations of your mentioned factor....


Edward.
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Corey
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2011 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I couldn't find the Prophecies and Predictions thread so I will post this here in an effort to spread the word:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7819201/Nasa-warns-solar-flares-from-huge-space-storm-will-cause-devastation.html

Nasa warns of upcoming Solar Flares coming in 2013 (which is a year off from what the P's say) but it makes an interesting read. At least they got the 11 year cycle right and the fact that it can knock out electronic devices, financial systems, and power grids. Another Billy Meier confirmation where Billy was first...

Here is a link to a place that tracks solar X flares the strongest known to current Earth sciences and for good measure near Earth Asteroids: http://spaceweather.com/

Salome,

Corey
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Cpl
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Post Number: 560
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Corey,

Actually NASA and Billy could be talking the same time here. Billy said latter part of 2012, if I remember correctly, and NASA said around the beginning of 2013, which includes the latter part of 2012.

Best,
Chris

Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 393
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 03:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Chris,
I couldnot find Billy mentioning the solar storms occuring in the "latter part of 2012". As far as i remember, he just mentioned 2012.
Even as those who appreciate beauty are artists in a degree, so also those who recognize the prophets are prophets of a kind - S.Radhakrishnan
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Corey
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Cpl,

Yes I see what you mean. Billy mentioned the latter part of 2012 in one of the Bulletins I forget which one. He even mentioned the month it could culminate which I believe was November or December...

Salome

Corey
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Cpl
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Post Number: 562
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Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mahigitam,

You are right that Billy didn't mention specifically solar storms for the end of 2012, but he does say something will happen on the 21 December 2012 that could cause panic and fear if spoken about.

"Besides I would like to officially speak about the 21st of December 2012, because I am asked again and again about the meaning of this date with regard to the Mayan calendar. Admittedly I know from your explanation what will happen on that day and over the whole year, but I shall keep silent about this so as to not be causing fear and panic mongering" (Contact Report 476).

Billy does not say this is solar flares, but almost all he talks about in this contact report with respect to 2012 are results of the suns activities and flares, with the exception of "an unknown, invisible, dark and huge space wanderer that is threatening from the fringe of our solar system and could wreak tremendous havoc regarding Earth" (CR 476).

But since a "non-observable passage of the colossus is possible" this doesn't seem to be something Billy could "know" is going to happen, because it might not happen; and he does know what is going to happen on 21 December 2012.

It is therefore very likely that the event of 21 December 2012 will, in some way, be solar flare related. Though Billy doesn't specifically say so, it is very much implied.

Thanks for prodding me to check out precisely what Billy has said about this.
Chris

Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2156
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 04:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys....

As to what I gathered from diverse science channels, etc., is, that 2012 is
also mentioned. With no specifics....[Begin or end of the year]

But, they did say very much damage can be done...


Edward.
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Joe
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Post Number: 169
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 03:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2 earthquakes rattle San Francisco area ---> http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/10/21/2-earthquakes-rattle-San-Francisco-area/UPI-98681319176189/?spt=hs
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Kingman
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Post Number: 884
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One of my favorite sources of really important information that has already been vetted and cleared for its value towards a better world is TEDTALKS. This recent one is another that carries with it pertinent and valuable knowledge that will certainly become important to our future.

I hope others enjoy and learn more from these talks as I have.


http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=07487d1456302a286cf9c4ccc&id=9ba1f08c86&e=287a7a3cc8
a friend in america
Shawn
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Norm
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Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gathering Storm: Can Solar Flares Wipe Out the Grid? – HDNet

http://www.hd.net/blogs/gathering-storm-can-solar-flares-wipe-out-the-grid/
My Website
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Scott
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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Norm, what I'm concerned about is the impact this may have on Nuclear Reactors, There are 104 Reactors in the US and numerous more in Europe.
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Sarah
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to my further reading so far, it makes me wonder if we'll ever get over what causes certain environmental issues, and just focus on improving the life opf the people its effecting?
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Edward
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Post Number: 2269
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 02:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott....


I agree with you!

The (NOW Ruling) Right Politics want MORE Nuclear Plants, here!

And Coal mines working again!!


HOW Ignorant can One get, no?


Edward.
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Sarah
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 05:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What I don't get though, why is shutting down a nuclear plant somehow scary? Isnt it suppose to be taken as helpful?
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Colorado_dirk
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Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sarah,

Yes it is helpful but there are a multitude of issues with nuclear plants/power. The first is that we are using a technology we are unable to control. They are easy to build but once active become a pandora's box.

Here is why it is scary: Research the timeline of the Chernobyl disaster and you will find out that it was the result of a shutdown test during a maintenance event that spiraled out of control.

Along with the theory of unintended consequences, the ongoing Fukushima disaster was created by a shutdown from the forces of nature. Now the cores have melted into the groundwater and we are unable to shut down the process. No one knows how to stop it.

With earthquakes and other natural disasters yet to come, we are realizing that the remediation (disassembly, cleanup, waste disposal) of these plants is more delicate than initially conceived, and was perhaps not even planned by the corporatocracy.

This means that once operating, these plants are a liability to humanity and we simply have not mastered the technology to use it. We are just now having to learn to disassemble them.

It is tremendously helpful that the discussions have started and plans are now under way by many governments. Yay!

d
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Sarah
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2011 - 05:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nono, I miscommunicated. I mean why is it a bad thing to Earth humans to shut down nuclear power plants. I need to stop making posts when I'm tired.D:
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Edward
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Post Number: 2282
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 02:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sarah....


I get your point.

Some people feel that Nuclear Plants are needed, which is quite wrong, as we
read the FIGU Materials, and as other wise researchers have conducted.

And these groups of people and Politicians have no idea WHAT for Damage
Nuclear Reactors/Plants can cause. They still, have not learned from Chernobyl
and Fukushima.

Billy did mentioned that Nuclear discovery and its usage is part of every
human's Evolution course, but, at some time in existence...they should avert
themselves from it and fossil fuels, etc., and utilize other/more Natural
Power Sources around us/them. There are plenty sources around us.


Edward.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Re: Danger of Nuclear Damage
Apart from the problems to control nuclear power and the question where to store the nuclear waste (slow deterioration) one CR warns that – since 1945 - devices splitting the atom are one of the major factors that the ozone layer has been increasingly damaged (other factors: release of Bromine gas (as in missile weapons) and the use of explosion motors as e.g. in cars and aeroplanes)
One may consider the tests in the South Pacific
- British nuclear tests in Australia (Maralinga, Montebello, Emu Fields)
- French Tests at the Mururoa and Fangataufa Atolls and the
- US Tests in the Marshall Islands (the big tests were in the Marshalls: the yield of the tests in the Marshalls comprised nearly 80% of the atmospheric total detonated by the U.S – see http://www.nuclearclaimstribunal.com/testing.htm)

It is no accident then that the major ozone layer destruction covers the Antarctic, Australia, NZ, southern South America and many of the South Pacific islands
(see graphics displaying the expansion of the ozone destruction - http://www.theozonehole.com/)
To close the ozone holes may take hundreds of years.

PS
The ozone hole allows UV radiation to enter the atmosphere affecting all creatures.
It may well explain why many Australians now suffer increasingly from skin cancer.

Salome
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Earthling
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-21/nuclear-regulator-dismissed-seismologist-on-japan-quake-threat.html#

"Dismissed as a “nobody” by Japan’s nuclear industry, seismologist Katsuhiko Ishibashi spent two decades watching his predictions of disaster come true: First in the 1995 Kobe earthquake and then at Fukushima. He says the government still doesn’t get it.

His view changed after a magnitude-6.9 quake killed more than 5,500 people on Jan. 17, 1995, and toppled sections of elevated expressway.

After a disaster that Japanese engineers had said couldn’t happen, the nuclear regulator didn’t immediately re-evaluate its construction standards. It said the plants were “safe from the ground up,” as the title of a 1995 Science Ministry pamphlet put it. Ishibashi decided to investigate.

The result was an article on Hamaoka published in the October 1997 issue of Japan’s Science Journal that reads like a post-mortem of the Fukushima disaster: A major quake could knock out external power to the plant’s reactors and unleash a tsunami that could overrun its 6-meter defenses, swamping backup diesel generators and leading to loss of cooling and meltdowns.

When the local prefecture questioned industry experts about Ishibashi’s paper, the response was that he didn’t need to be taken seriously. "

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