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Sonik_01
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Post Number: 217
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Forum,

I distinctly remember reading a prophecy somewhere that WWIII may happen
in November of the possible years of 2006, 2009, 2010, and 2011, but I
don't remember where I read it. I wanted to refresh my memory. I thought
it was the Henoch Prophecies but I looked at my pamphlet, online, and also
in Guido's book and I saw nothing of the sort. Does anyone remember where
this info was written? Thanks,

Salome,
Sonik_01
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Pele_ii
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 02-2011
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings from Brazil.

Hi Sonic_01

Her is the link regarding 2011 WWIII possibility:

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_046
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Edward
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Post Number: 2100
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 04:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sonik....

Excerpts:

Should in fact a clash of weapons occur in Iraq, prodded by the howling for
war by Bush, then this can become areality and the fulfilment of Henok's
prophecies, although the old prophecy says that due to this consequence,
the Third World War could in fact break out in the year 2006, whereby it
should be said that it depends if this date is taken from the modern calendar
of today or according to the time since the birth of Jmmanuel, which then
would correspond to the year 2003. Another prophecy speaks of an
all-encompassing war in the year 2011.....

This link: www.figu.org/us/figu/bulletin/s02_to_the_statesmen.htm


And...


A Word to Third World War

A clarification

When I spoke in my bulletins of a prophecy that points to the years of 2003,
2006, 2010 and 2011, in which a third world war could become a possibility, it
does not refer to a prediction but only to a prophecy. In answering the many
inquiries respectively, it is obvious that it is necessary again to repeat
that the bulletins do not refer to a prediction but to a prophecy, that
reveals the mentioned dates. Prophecies are always changeable, for they do not
rest upon something that forces prophecies to be fulfilled, contrary to
predictions that fulfil themselves with absolute certainty.

www.figu.org/us/figu/bulletin/no46_excerpt.htm


Edward.
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Sonik_01
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Post Number: 218
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok Great, thanks guys, that was the info I was looking for.

Salome,
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Zenanand
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 06-2011
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Friends,

Have read about the 2012 prophecies and about the Mayan calendar. My question is how far this is true? Also, there is a discussion between Billy and ETs about this, but the ETs have asked Billy to keep some things secret. Has this secret been revealed in any of the latest contacts between Billy and the ETs?

If not, then what exactly is the secret and why is it not being made public, is it that dangerous?

Regards,
Zen Anand
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Zenanand
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 06-2011
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,

this link www.figu.org/us/figu/bulletin/no46_excerpt.htm

is not working.


Regards,
Zen Anand
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Matthew
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2011 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Zen,

On Michael Horn's 'theyfly.com' website is this article which is an extract from 515th Official Contact:
http://www.theyfly.com/Sunspot-Activity.html

as well as these articles:
http://www.theyfly.com/About-2012.html

The information contained therein expands on the information about 2012 prophecies.

Matthew
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 598
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2011 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mathew,

Thankyou for this link:

http://www.theyfly.com/Sunspot-Activity.html

It's important because as an illustration of capabilities it demonstrates that the contents of at least some persons minds are filled with knowledge.

Compare the information .... would you hear this coming from a cardinal, pope, sai baba, kalki bhagawan, bhagwan shree rajneesh, international banker, industrialist, president or leader of a nation, televangelist, successful businessperson, new age guru ..... others like that.

Really, can you imagine that Billy is plinking away on his typewriter making this up as he goes just to appear important and pretend he is having conversations with someone who is not a resident of the planet.

Evidence, credible evidence ..... unless your mind imposes it's own convoluted agenda implanted through conditioning and being exposed to information from rather dubious sources the reality of the mission and contacts becomes obvious and self evident.
Cheers.
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Zenanand
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 06-2011
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2011 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matthew,

Thanks Matthew for the info.
Zen Anand
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Edward
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Post Number: 2102
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2011 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Zen....


The link could have changed through the years, yes.

This does occur I have noticed, myself.

I have no knowledge of the new link, further, alas...sorry.


Edward.
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Matthew
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2011 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ramirez: Re: Solar Activity. Absolutely, sir - Billy & Ptaah are smart. These specific details about our Sun not only stand out now but I'm confident will be verified scientifically in future centuries to add validity to the whole case for people in the future.

I hope that the collective thoughts of the peaceful, through activities like the peace mediation, will outweigh the thoughts of the fearful and the prophets of doom when it comes to the 2012 solar activity. I do wonder at the mechanics of this process and how long a delay it is before collective thoughts manifest as solar activity? Have we, as MH states in regards to certain prophecies (http://theyfly.com/2012.htm) "..crossed the point of no return..., i.e. (that they are) unpreventable, inevitable events"? In February 3, 2009 Ptaah said that, "The might of thoughts brings about everything, so to speak, and in fact the more certain the more the powers of thoughts of many people unite in the same cause. This means that what the human being nurtures and maintains in his thoughts, inevitably fulfils itself."

I do wonder if Ptaah was making reference to the collective influence of thought in his conversation with Billy on March 7th 2011 (http://www.theyfly.com/Sunspot-Activity.html) when he states that the ramifications of the sun's activity are only a possibility and do not correspond to a prediction, "...because it still is not certain what will occur when the activity wakes the Sun from its slumber." However, I lean towards the idea that it is now just a matter of HOW our Sun manifests those collective thoughts. I could be wrong but it is important for all of us to know in terms of preparation.

In the past, I have been challenged by peers to provide information about upcoming prophecies Billy has made, not just ones already fulfilled. I responded by mentioning the Solar Storms in 2012 but ensured that I remained true to the prophecy by not scare-mongering and explaining that the solar event will be significant but not necessarily devastating. These same people later stated that I had spoken of an "end-of-the-world" scenario which I adamantly denied. It seems that people like toying with the idea of disaster without thinking about how their thoughts can be manifested.

Either way I am sure that the peace meditation is always positive and useful even if we are past the point of no return in regards to solar activity. We are going to need a whole lot of peace if the worse happens:

Peace meditation links:

How to carry out the meditation:
http://www.theyfly.com/salome/salome.htm

When to do the Meditation - Countdown (Although now out of date, I believe it is updated regularly)
http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Main_Page#Countdown_To_Peace_Meditation

Salome,

Matthew
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 407
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2011 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Ramirez' points about none of this information coming from any of > the other sources and people failing to also recognize Meier's > dutifully - and thanklessly - working away on behalf of humanity are > spot on.
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Hunter
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Post Number: 367
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,
You asked Michael:

"the US dollar is far from being worthless (as mentioned) at the moment. When do you think it might get to that, if it gets to it."

Slightly off topic here, but I would recommend studying previous hyperinflations, such as the one that occurred in Germany under the Weimar republic.

Also, Matt Maloney has some interesting information on economic cycles and the role of gold & silver in these cycles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7QcVN5tC8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LniuUT0XSYo&feature=related

I only say slightly off topic because when currencies, and therefore economies, start collapsing, governments like to distract the populace by starting wars. "Oh look at those bad guys over there and what they're doing! Ignore the fact that our own stupid policies destroyed your currency."

Now, as to why the dollar still has value, that's because it's still the world reserve currency. They created the petrodollar standard shortly after they removed the last vestiges of gold backing in 1971. What that means is other countries must use the dollar to purchase oil with. So, there is a de facto backing of oil on the dollar, giving it value. But this WRC status is not permanent and it's already changing. For example, China and Russia have already made a deal to trade oil & other commodities in their own currencies and have excluded the dollar. This trend will continue in the future.

I don't think it will be one major event. I could be wrong about that, but I think it will be more like "death from a thousand cuts."
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Ramirez
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Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings Hunter.

Quote.
"What that means is other countries must use the dollar to purchase oil with."

Aha, that's why Gaddafi is the latest bogey man .... he was very seriously along the way to ditching the dollar for oil payments and insisting that Libya be paid in Euros or gold plus just about to sign on to the Iranian plan to start a second oil bourse in competition with OPEC where all trades would also be conducted in either gold or Euros.

So suddenly Gaddafi is a monster, dictator, all round bad guy, threat to world peace and poor role model who must be removed .... yeah, what about Kim in NK, Bob Mugabe in Zimbabwe, Than Shwe in Burma .... no oil, no interest.
Cheers.
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Matt
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Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hunter,

Thanks for your response.

I don't know where I heard this before (I think it was Billy or MH or maybe a documentary) but wasn't the reason why the USA invaded Iraq was because Saddam Hussien was about to start selling Iraqs Oil in Euro dollars instead of USA dollars like most other countries were at that time?
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Cpl
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Post Number: 556
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt,

Think you mean Euros rather than Euro dollars. Though I do think if the Euro breaks down, which I see as highly likely, then there could be a new European dollar that will be linked to petrol.

Other writers have also mentioned Iraq breaking the "US petro dollar deal" cause of the Gulf War. It may have been a contributing factor IMO. Iraq was, as far as I know, the first to break the deal on US petro dollars, but Russia, China, and I think other countries now are doing the same with no warmongering reprisals -- at least not yet.

Lindsey Williams was the first to go public with the idea that the US petro dollar was an arrangement whereby the ME nations were guaranteed US purchases of their oil as long as those ME nations accepted US dollars in payment. This signed agreement fueled the US boom over the ensuing decades as trillions of treasuries were printed and delivered to the ME, and other, oil exporting countries. Oil effectively then backed the dollar. Some say this was made necessary when in 1971-2 Nixon took the US off its Gold backing of the currency.

Williams maintains the plan is to make the ME nations' treasury holdings worthless as the dollar collapses and that war with Iran is a part of the final scenario, but not quite yet. This doesn't have to happen, of course. Williams says it is just part of the Elite's plans. As an aside, he also says Obama was not to become president in their plans, so the good news is they do not always win out how they want.

I only mention Williams because he claims all he says on this is what he has been personally told by the Elite who he meets and talks with in person or on the telephone. They became close associates and remain so through a respected working relationship decades ago. He maintains nothing of what he says on this is his own ideas, speculations or anything to do with intuition; it is purely and only what the Elite tell him personally, and as long as he doesn't mention their names they don't mind him talking about it because they are confident their plans will materialize.
Chris

Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 557
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,

For what it is worth Williams says the US dollar will be dead by the end of 2012. That doesn't mean non-existent, but it will cease to be the world's reserve currency and so will be a fraction of its present value. The same happened with England when the pound ceased to remain the world's reserve currency.

Williams maintains the whole package of ME revolutions are panned by the Elite or those known to them. There could be many reasons for these planned uprisings.

As for Gaddafi, he also was working on a massive project to fertilize the whole of northern Africa. He built pipelines from "the world's largest irrigation project"; the underground Nubian sandstone aquifer that has enough fossil water, it is claimed, to create enough food for the whole of Africa. The project was almost complete (scheduled to finish in 2015) and could have made Gaddafi a hero in Africa and contributed to a hitherto unseen massive developmental leap forward for Africa, as well, as saving millions of lives and liberating Africans from dependence on world power groups.

This link on "The Real Reason for the War in Libya" gives a little more detail. Please note I am not saying this is the reason for the war in Libya, and it'll make more sense substituting World's Power Elite in place of NWO: <http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/4294.html>
Chris

Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 580
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/08/bush-and-clinton-counter-terrorism-tzar.html

"Richard Clarke - the top Bush and Clinton counter-terrorism czar - alleges that there was a high-level decision in the CIA to suppress key information regarding two Al Qaeda hijackers inside the U.S: "

=================================================

Below, Michael Horn talks about what Billy said regarding the 9/11 attacks; that at the highest levels, the US knew they were coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29wnpEy2DY4
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2011 - 03:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Earthling....

Well, it is mentioned in the Meier Materials, that those you mentioned in High
Levels, and cohorts, etc., let the 9/11 events take place: so that the USA can
proclaim themselves as being the POLICE of our World/Earth!

THEY needed an 'excuse' to create their - War On/Against Terror - and so this
was their moment to make it come into realization!

This was THEIR opportunity, to make use of an event that made room for THEM
to acquire the mentioned status!

So, as you see: THEY scarified their OWN people to obtain such 'ill' status;
with NO Scruples what-so-ever....: Truly, The Way Of The BEAST....The Anti-
Logos....

So, you/we must understand...WHAT Obama is up against!

The Government WITHIN the Government...(The Puppeteers....)!


Edward.
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 399
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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2011 - 05:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CR 142

Greatest possible security for survival if the great World War should actually break out - 2 places are mentioned:

First one - is the really safest place
- and is simply impossible because it would cost billions of sums if we wanted to build a hideout there.
- Also, there would be a political quarrel there because the earthly nations have decided together that it should remain a neutral area. But at the
moment, it wouldn't be neutral for the nations any more if people firmly settled there.

Second one - much better climatically than the first, but a suitable station for survival in real security would still cost, at least, many millions even there
- But certainly, it could still be created there if we had enough people and money or could find this within a short time
- In Europe, no place can be found where there could be safety, prior to any war - there would be no security at all

Any guesses for these 2 places ?
Even as those who appreciate beauty are artists in a degree, so also those who recognize the prophets are prophets of a kind - S.Radhakrishnan
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 604
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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2011 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mahigitam,

You asked for guesses, and here they are:

First one - Antarctic

Second one - Some of the Caribbean nations (West Indies)
"The flower which is single need not envy the thorns that are numerous." - Tagore
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Earthling
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Post Number: 584
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2011 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The First One is Antarctica.

The Second, I have no idea.
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Johnnybalmain
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 03:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mahigitam,
1st Sth Pole 2nd Tasmania
Peace John

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