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Calenwath
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 04-2010
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Michael,

Right on my mistake, excellent blog on theyfly.com!!
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Calenwath
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Post Number: 42
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Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great idea JRod, I dont have a facebook account but my wife does. I pasted the link there, and as she has a semi-active page what with keeping up with family and freinds, Im hoping it stirs some deep thought in close loved ones. Sometimes simply acting as a sign post for others is the best method to pursue the mission.

Salome,

Shane
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Edward
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Post Number: 2159
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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2011 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Andres....


I had to 'memory refresh'...myself.

(Project) Camelot, had been discussed here and at the previous PAR site.

Well, everyone his/her opinion, I would say.

They did mention Greys, Reptiles, etc., which are the least real HUMAN-like
beings. Greys are just Androids and the Reptiles just do not exist, according
to the Plajarans and Billy; perhaps, ONLY...a Mutation type of (human) being/
species, which 'resemble' a reptile. But, have no way the/a so-called Reptile
GENE within their body build-up/structure.

But, I guess Project Camelot, may have 'some' Truths, and some not.


Edward.
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Andres82
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 08-2011
Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Edward =],

I see, I did not read past that part of the document. However I was refering to The Humanoid Vulcans and this young boy's contact with them. It seems reasonable that these events did occur.

As to the Reptillians, I dont really concern myself with their beings for I dont believe they exist. And when I did hear here and there the word I wasnt to much bothered by it..

Here is a question, that had arrisen while I was reading the contact notes a few months ago.

- If the Plejarens had stated to Billy that other ETs or (Off - Worlders)had no knowledge of their existence, is it not possible for another race of ETs to remain hidden from them aswell?

Anyhow,

Salome
Andres
Lyrian in Spirit and Wisdom
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Edward
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Post Number: 2165
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Andres....

Could be possible....

But, there may indeed be ETs who know of their existence...from past history
information, whatever.

With the knowledge, that the Plejarans have connections with the Andromeda
Council(half-material half-spirit beings) the Higher Spirit Levels, the
mentioned could deliver them information of whatever ETs whom exist. So, that
would not be to difficult, I would think?


Edward.
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Derrick
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 01-2011
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi friends and monitors,

regarding contact #122,

11. But at the same time, what is not yet known to you is that the elimination of the storage forces of H. S. hasn't been carried out yet because Quetzal must do this himself, and he has to come here personally for this purpose.

I'm not sure I understand what "storage forces" actually are...Can someone explain this to me a little more?
Thank you...my good people
Derrick
Salome
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Alagna
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 07-2011
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Derrick,

I think they are talking about fluidal forces. I understand fluidal forces to be residual energy from a person's thoughts and feeling, for example, that 'land' or get 'soaked-up' by the surrounding objects. So Quetzal must have some kind of fluidal forces 'vacuum cleaner' to clean up the psychic mess left over by H.S., who I understand was a problem for the group.

Cheers,
Anthony
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Jesusmontreal
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2011
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope this could be the right place for my question.

Has anyone found a reference directly or indirectly (made by Mr Meier or the Plejarens) about the phenomenon of crop circles?

a) If so, I’d appreciate being point out to such material (either in English or German), so I can read it and do my homework. (Maybe this has already been discussed in the forum and I am not aware of it...)

b) If nothing has been said, how does this subject can escalate among FIGU members in order to have some real input? I know this is not related to the mission itself but I guess there is enough physical evidence that has been circulating for a while that some reflections from the Plejarens perspective can indeed prove helpful to the “general public”.

I’d appreciate your comments!
Joshua
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 612
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 04:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to the information, the crop circles that were produced by the Plejaren and Lyren extraterrestrials were a result of anti-gravity field produced by the ships which caused grasses to bend without breaking and grow that way in a counter-clockwise formation.

Regarding the crop circles, as in those that pop-up every now and then with elaborate patterns and designs, Billy was asked several times to clarify their origin and purpose.


A collection of Q&A regarding crop circles

==================================================

Rei


[Posted June 2005]



Hello Billy,

thank you for the last answer, my next question is about the crop circles. In the 235 contact is said that all the crop circle are man-made, but in the 256 and in the 267 contacts is said that some of them are made from "other visiting extraterrestrial races", and them are "coded pictograms connected to a "coming happening in the SOL system as well as in the announcement of the appearance of the earth strangers, whose ancestors came already in former times to the earth".

And, in the 267 contact is said that "some of these extraterrestrial races are not from our space-time dimension, some also come from the future."

It have something to do with the "ancient gods ancestor" said by Ptaah in some contact?

Salome,

Enrico


Answer

In the 328th contact of July 20, 2002, Ptaah explained that ETs are not involved in the making of the crop circles. They (the P's) first suspected this to be the case, but then detected that cosmic influences are involved instead (influencing the ideas of those who are creating
the pictures on computers or by hand-drawing). The crop circles are man-made (terrestrial).

There have been UFOs flying above sites where crop circles were made; but they were not involved in the "construction". Some of those UFOs were coming from our terrestrial future.

=================================================

Daniel


[Posted May 2009]


Hello Mr Meier

After reading some of the posted questions about this topic I still dont

understand if the crop circles misteriously formed in several countries

mainly in the UK are from terrestrial origin (persons cheating the

people) or from extraterrestrials (or terrestrials coming from our future).

Thanks for all your efforts.


Answer:

According to the Plejaren no extraterrestrials are involved.

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Justsayno


[Posted November 2009]


Dear Billy, thank you for your many words of wisdom. Just wondering who supplied the crop circles and if there is real meaning to it or is it the greys coming to eat fungus?

I think that it was made in a wheat field to draw our attention to the fact that there are hardly any wheats fields which are not genetically modified and to the fact that wheat is "killed" before harvest. I don't know if this is relevant, but in the same field there was natural gas found measuring over 1 million feet per day.

As far as the actual symbols, I think the one on the left represents earth. The middle one represents our sun, with solar flares going counter and clockwise. The circle on the right represents venus as it is

the only planet that rotates clockwise (and the only flattened circle which is in a clockwise pattern). The bottom outer ring also has a path from the middle to the outer ring, which cannot be seen from aerial photographs. I'm not sure if it represents Nibiru/Planet X or a comet or black hole. It seems to tell us that something big is coming.

Is my interpretation correct?

Peace and Love

Sheila


Answer:

All of the so-called crop circles are man-made.

(Note by CF: English researchers have found out that about 95% of all crop circles in Great Britain are man-made. The producers (human beings
of earth) of the rest of of it (5%) obviously were smarter and used methods that have not yet been detected.)


=================================================



May I add that I keep an open mind about the 5%. I have often wondered why cattle mutilations and so called alien abductions are concentrated mostly around North America, while crop circles are concentrated around England.
“When we listen to a song we feel a yearning for the universal life vibration which exists in the vastness of the Creation. Through this, our consciousness bridges the barriers of place and time and discover our nervous life-force within infinity.” - Tagore, on the significance of rhythm.
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Derrick
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 01-2011
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks allot for that Anthony,
That was helpfull.
Derrick
Salome
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Jesusmontreal
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 05-2011
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks a lot for your input (Smukhuti) !!!
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Andres82
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 08-2011
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 03:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello All

First,
@ Joshua, I cannot answer your question, however here are the latest set of crop circles:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/august-crop-circle-photos-from-the-uk-60572.html

It would be interesting to gain information about the race that created the Alien Face Crop Circle.. and more so the meaning of this: If it is some kind of threat to panic Humanity:

Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. (Damaged Word). There is GOOD out there.We OPpose DECEPTION. Conduit CLOSING (BELL SOUND)".


Another Question:
Regarding the Annunaki and the work of Zacharia Sitchin, are these mentioned anywhere in the contact notes? Or, are they misinterpretations made by the Summerians of the 144,207 Ancient Lyrians that came here hundreds of thousands of years ago?

Salome
Andres
Lyrian in Spirit and Wisdom
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Andres82
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 08-2011
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Refering to Smukhuti,

This is very interesting.. Given what Eduard said, I would like to broaden our spectrum If I may,

1. "To what purpose do the 95% of humans create these elaborate figures?"
2. "Out of the 95% of humans creating these designs, are any of them from the future and if so, what percentage?"
3. "What is the exact source from where these images are being created?"
4. "Specifically who are creating the images?"
5. "Why did the the people making these create an image of an ET with the Binary code?"

I do believe I posted, my post perhaps must not have been added... However, it is now irrelevant.

Salome
Andres
Lyrian in Spirit and Wisdom
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Scott
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Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please let's get back to the topic heading
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Andres82
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 08-2011
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 03:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, True.

My apologies Scott

Salome
Andres
Lyrian in Spirit and Wisdom
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Edward
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Post Number: 2179
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 01:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Derrick and Anthony.....

Yes, I think you got the right idea.

We must keep in mind, that Fluidal Forces...can Penetrate the most Smallest
Particle, we know of! That is HOW deep....in can penetrate.

Thus, it is not always just: a new paint-job, or new wallpaper, or a good
washdown, to get rid of it! That is only, a certain Layer, as I understand;
these very small particles can not yet be registered by man, today. We
sill have yet to invent such device...


Edward.
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Andres82
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 08-2011
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 06:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all,

I have another question.
We all know the history of the World as said by Eduard.
However, has anything been mentioned in contacts about modern scientist's theory on Humanity decending from Africa?

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_African_origin_of_modern_humans

If anyone has any information Id like to know.
Again, if anybody knows of a good place or link that I can find the Complete history of Humanity, please let me know.

Salome
Andres
Lyrian in Spirit and Wisdom
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Kiwilove
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Post Number: 56
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Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't see where it is appropriate to post this query/discussion I would like to comment upon...

With the 10th annimversay of 9-11 due very soon - I am so tired of the Official Cover Story being repeated to us all time and time again. I think that Billy Meier and the Plejarens have said that planes did crash into the Twin Towers, with explosives aboard. But I have a problem in believing this.

That the Twin Towers and WTC7 fell, so very characteristic of a controlled demolition collapse. I don't think Boeing 757s were used at all. That videoclip shown of the second plane entering the Second Tower defies the laws of physics, etc. A plane simply does not disappear into the building like that at all. The wings would shear off and most of the plane would crumpled upon impact, etc. That that clip looks like a cheesy special effects shot, done in a computer - and by today's standard looks very hokey. ie. unconvincing. We don't have other video/photographic evidence - why don't we? There should have been enough news crews, reporters, etc, public around with cameras, etc ready.
Why don't Billy Meier and the Plejarens tell the whole or true story about this? Is it because - like with the Apollo 11 details reveal --- that to do so, would only make Billy Meier and his people an open target for the CIA, FBI and US agencies, etc who want to keep the lid on regarding 9-11, to keep the public in the dark about the truth of 9-11.

Harvey
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 442
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Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Harvey,

A couple of things, as for 9/11, I immediately thought that it was a controlled demolition too. Then I recently read an opposing view that a controlled demolition starts from the bottom up, not the top down. I haven't checked this out for myself but it's certainly interesting if true.

Also, regarding the moon-landing hoax, please see:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/9/prweb8779003.htm
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Kiwilove
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As regards the latest news concerning what was left behind in the Apollo missions. There is the release of high resolution photographs, that covers what Apollo 17 left behind in the news, such that the rover tracks are seen, alongside footprints. The news piece ended with saying, now this proves that the Apollo moon hoax ideas are unfounded.
But what the general public (and Apollo Moon Hoax followers) don't know, is that it was only Apollo 11 that was hoaxed, and that this is the only Apollo moon mission to look very critically at. Few people know about Billy Meier's comments on the Apollo Hoax - that it is only Apollo 11 to look at and scrutinise.

Harvey
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Kiwilove
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for commenting Michael.

The simple answer to 9-11, is to simply have the dust analysed, to see if there are any traces of explosive residue, and what type is it? They can't hide the dust, so has the 9-11 truth movement done this? There is some info that this has been done, and that it is military grade fermite present, giving more credence to the idea that it was a CIA? or Israeli? operation.

There are so many inconsistencies in the Cover Story of 9-11 that does not hold up. Why was the military on stand by, and told not to interfere? Rumsfeld and Co are to be blamed for this, that procedures were changed such that the military could not act, unless with authorisation to - and it was convenient that authorisation was delayed, ie. not available such that the military could not act as expected.
Planes simply do not disappear inside buildings, as in the Twin Towers - that it did not happen once, but twice! It should have been uncontrollable mayhem, but it was a controlled demolition (surgical) that took place.
The Pentagon strike is just as puzzling - that a large bodied jetliner did not crash there - the debris left behind was of a much smaller craft/object (perhaps a missle? drone plane or small jet) that was quickly scooped up, never to be seen again. The flight path was not that of a 757, eye witnesses say that they plane they saw at that time, was on a path that did not strike the Pentagon - sounding like it was decoyed to look like it was the cause, but could not crash into the Pentagon.
All of these different details - hint very strongly that Bin Laden could not have orchestrated it, at all - unless he has infiltrated the Pentagon, etc etc.
Billy Meier has said that the CIA and the Pentagon has been involved in some very nasty covert operations - but why has he not said, they were involved in 9-11?
Is 9-11 one of those subjects - he is not suppose to comment on, because it would bring too much publicity upon himself, and his support people?

The Plejarens will not comment on very sensitive subjects and on very sensitive information - and their quietness on 9-11, suggests very strongly this is one of those sensitive areas - they dare not comment on in detail, at this time. Maybe when another 10 years have passed - they finally will?
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Harvey....


As to what I have gathered, is...that those Explosions may have been
explosives that were stored in the Twin Towers as well as the other building
that collapsed. The case is, that the CIA or Anti Terror Police, or whatever,
stored explosives and weapons, etc., in the buildings incase, a terrorist
attack would occur. If this would be the case, than all that is needed to
avert the attack can be implemented. The storage rooms were at specific
floors. The CIA knows about this but will not comment.

If the above mentioned is the case: they, the explosives, etc., were ignited
by the blazing fire....(?)


Edward.
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Earthling
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Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 04:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

Kiwilove, all this nonsense that a large bodied 757, complete with list of dead passengers & crew, did not hit the pentagon is really too much. Why are we so ready to believe conspiracy theorists who see a reptilian in their own mother?

Tell your theory that a 757 didn't crash into the Pentagon to the family & friends of those on board.

Even conspiracy theorists have the list of dead from that 757 flight #77. However they think the passengers were carefully selected for sacrificial murder... of course.

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