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Edward
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Post Number: 2325
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2012 - 01:57 am: | 
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Hi Chris....
Yes, the obvious!
Not surprised that Wesley Clark said something like that. As to what I read
and watched on TV is that his JEWISH background plays part, here. At least,
this is what the News Reports have been saying, here in US New Reports and
articles.
Thus, Clark feels it is his duty to do whatever for Israel, and not only for
the USA!
A TRUE Warmonger, eh......???
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2326
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2012 - 01:59 am: |
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Hi Marbar....
Yes: that is a good one!!
Edward. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 605
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2012 - 06:10 am: |
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Hi Edward,
Well, I can't speak about him generally, but he wasn't warmongering at that time he said this, quite the opposite. He was speaking out against all these war plans and those who were calling for them, which talks are readily viewable on YouTube.
Whether such a stance was merely political to get himself into a different government or not I cannot say. We need to remember, however, that no one is all bad. This is what makes life and personal relationships so challenging, and key to our development of understanding, comprehension, cognizance, wisdom etc.
He was bringing this knowledge forward and calling to stop it; and that was certainly a move in the right direction.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Cpl
Member
Post Number: 607
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2012 - 07:54 am: |
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Hi Matt,
We have to be careful here because this Arab Spring is getting away from Billy's material. Maybe it will be covered soon, however, and it might relate to the development of WW III.
I cannot tell you who is behind it. It was predicted by certain Elitists that it would happen at least 3 months before it did. Of course, General Clark's statements make it appear the US was behind it years before then -- but they didn't seem to know why they were going to get involved in these countries. Perhaps there's an Elite even above the US military and government that maneuvered them into involvement?
But we are just into areas of speculation here, which don't lead anywhere useful.
There may well be some good behind the uprisings. Complex, world changing developments are difficult to characterize as all one thing or the other. Certainly the thoughts and feelings to be free rather than live under the dictates of authoritarian, despotic leaders are a good and progressive thing; and to rise up for one's freedom, a noble effort. How, what and why certain actions -- especially when involving violence and death -- are performed are other matters though.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2327
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2012 - 12:30 pm: |
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Hi Chris....
Well, yes, if Clark opposed those mentioned scenarios that would be quite
positive; in the past, he did go along with the war(Iraq) and said 'nothing'.
[Even though, Saddam Hoessein had no WOMD..; dictator or not: you do not go
to war and overthrow a country when there is NO WOMD; and Saddam had
nothing to do with the Twin Towers, neither....; Clark, Flip-Flopped in many
cases, doubting his own conscience, as to what reporters mentioned and which I
would agree; thus, he was NOT honest to HIMSELF.]
So, he did come on the last boat, so to speak. He could have spoken somewhat
sooner. But, if his words have positive influence in averting the WW3 scenario
that would be a great help, of course. But, this is in the hands of The
Puppeteers(US Government WITHIN a/the Government, as the Plejarans defined
it; and, to install their: Puppet Governments; which is NO Natural Democracy)!
The Plejarans/Ptaah, did once say to Billy, that it would be best that all
counties on Earth be democratized; but, surely NOT executed as now the case is
with CIA and other Western European Countries (and even Israel) inciting this
all and, being present with WEAPONS and MONEY; Money to BUY/Bribe the
people; same old CIA tactic. Israel, even has the so-called 'advisers' present, as
to what I hear from News Reports, here!
Again: this is than NO Natural Democracy. It only installs: a Puppet
Government. And this Puppet Government HAS to Listen to the Puppeteers; if
not: THEY will be overthrown and than...ANOTHER Puppet Government will be
installed; and so...this goes on and on...; we learned this from the past. And
if this goes on: the WW3 scenario can indeed become a Reality, alas....
Edward. |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 134
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2012 - 09:33 pm: |
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I kind of wonder, I know it was said they wouldn't let the Earth blow up. But honestly, what if a far worse thing happens, if world war three happens? I was watching a youtube channel, and they mentioned something like increasing the gap between rich and poor, and other stuff. The rich might live above the plate so to speak, and the poor below the plate. But we'll see. |
Sonik_01
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Post Number: 276
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 03:27 am: |
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Hi Markcampbell,
About your #719,
Clearly, it's impossible for people to have a developed consciousness, either by meditation , or in general a "sprouts and green tea" mentality by the the majority of people who have never ad an original thought in their heads...
Just sayin'...
So clearly, nothing good can be expected of coming out of nothing.
Be well...
& Saalome. |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 432
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 08:21 am: |
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Hi Sarah, contact report #251 also mentions that the time will come when no money will exchange hands and it will become worthless.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Matt
Member
Post Number: 212
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 06:27 pm: |
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Yep, the herd mentality is still the norm. Almost everyone still believes/does what everyone else believes and does. |
Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 722
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 10:00 pm: |
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Hi Sonik ;
It was not my best post ; I've lost the plot what the sprouts and tea comment was for .
MC |
Earthling
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Post Number: 610
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 03:15 am: |
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I know that Billy has spoken well of Obama, citing his spirit forms roots in the mission, even if he is unaware of them in his present incarnation; however ......
http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-06/news/30598597_1_asia-pacific-defense-secretary-leon-panetta-defense-strategy
"A prominent theme of the new strategy that Obama and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta unveiled Thursday is what Panetta has called a renewed commitment to asserting America’s position in the Asia-Pacific region."
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needless to say, Russia and China are none too thrilled with Obama's blowing kisses to them in the form of a greater military presence in their backyard. Do ya think the USA would tolerate Chinese or Russian military commitment to asserting their position in our area of the world!?
http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/01/10/china-usa-defence-idINDEE80905E20120110
"China top military paper warns U.S. aims to contain rise"
I don't care what is going on behind the scenes, Mr Nobel Peace Prize has lost his way. |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 135
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 10:08 am: |
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So I guess in a way the poorer people will be in better shape in a big war. Also:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/iran-sentences-former-u-marine-death-151159772.html
And
http://news.yahoo.com/why-sanctions-raise-danger-iran-building-nuclear-weapons-153000768.html |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 433
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 09:01 am: |
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No Sarah, it means that NO ONE one will be in better shape if a third world war were to break out. The buying and selling of food will stop and a person could be killed for stealing food. The only hope we have is to stop this from happening.
Hi Bruce, interesting that Leon Panetta is former CIA. Does anyone really ever quit that organization?
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Matt
Member
Post Number: 213
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 07:04 pm: |
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Earthling, have you read the bulletin that Billy wrote about the CIA? In it he said that the CIA is the real government of the USA. He said "it is a government within a government".
Sure Obama has a say in what happens in some cases and areas but in other areas, his hands are tied. I'm sure thats whats happening there.
btw, the P's said that Obama is a good descent person who not only wants to do something good for America but also do something good for the rest of the world too. I used the numerology software program (Decoz) to see Obama's numerology chart and it uncannily described Obama's personality the same as what the P's said it was, and also how we see and percieve him to be too. Keep in mind he fairly won the Nobel Peace Prize.
We have to accept that on some things Obama's hands will be tied, and that is probably one of them. |
Jgarbush
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 12:56 am: |
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> I think you're missing another part of the Libya story. He was also about > to start a new currency called the "gold denar" which he was going to sell > oil. If you read the article in the EU times about dominique struass-kahn > that through his contacts in the CIA he found that the US has no gold and > couldn't buy oil. > > Second thing is the fact that China is trying to create Africa as a > satalite state. They're trying to relieve population pressure by moving 300 > million people to Africa. So, this would be a thumb in the eye of China > along with saving the American economy because we have no gold. > |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 434
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 07:00 am: |
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Since history tends to repeat itself, it's always good to know our history:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28554
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Sarah
Member
Post Number: 136
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 07:32 am: |
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Now its talking about China. Did Billy mention anything about China?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK2ji72eyIo&feature=plcp&context=C30b72c4UDOEgsToPDskIqLGXcfagCX0a7Pkovj1oU |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 611
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 08:05 am: |
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http://rt.com/news/iran-nuclear-scientist-killed-523/
Mossad suspected in nuking Iranian nukular{sic} scientists |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 435
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 06:02 pm: |
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28560
"In the same story, the New York Times quotes US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta making what should be a startling admission: that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons programme.
Panetta says: “Are they [Iran] trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No.”
That Panetta finally admits what many people around the world know to be true, including American intelligence agencies in at least two US National Intelligence Estimates in 2007 and 2010 – that is, that Iran is not attempting to develop a nuclear weapon, should be a front-page headline. Especially when taken together with General Dempsey’s disclosure that war plans are afoot. From its own admission, therefore, the US government is pushing the world into possibly a World War III scenario on the basis of a totally spurious claim that even its own top brass do not believe."
Looks like Panetta never left the CIA.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Peter_brodowski
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Post Number: 581
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 11:54 pm: |
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this is ww3 based on figu material, so far i see a handful of the latest posts to be dubious claims without any hard evidence to back it up, posted by people who seem to be easily provoked by anything they find on the internet. |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 139
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 07:43 am: |
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Except for the fact, that a war with Iran could easily provoke world war III. Think about it before barking at us. |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 140
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 07:49 am: |
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And of coarse provide some of your own Peter. |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 612
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 05:41 pm: |
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http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/01/russia-should-anything-happen-to-iran-this-will-be-a-direct-threat-to-our-national-security.html
"Russia and China Would Consider An Attack On Iran – Or Syria – As An Attack On Their National Security" |
