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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 01:57 am: | 
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Hi Jacob:
I totally relate to your post. I experience the same kind of shivers down my spine, when someone in the close vicinity has their attention on me and I am consciously unaware of it.
I just simply gain conscience of it, then turn around to check who that may be. :-)
Very good post. Thank you very much.
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 576
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 02:33 am: |
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Hi Jacob,
This statement is very interesting and I wonder if you could expand on it somewhat to clarify.
"This is caused by the fact that the material sub-consciousness which is located in the Cerebellum (small-brain) receives those impulses from the pineal gland and sends impulses to the material consciousness which is the Cerebrum (big-brain), these impulses in the material consciousness create thoughts and feelings of fear and restlessness, this because these impulses affect the Psyche (Solar Plexus) very rapidly and generate feelings which match the thoughts."
By material sub consciousness are you refering to a subatomic holographic field comprised of vibrations acting as the storage medium being a consciousness level equivalent of a computer hard drive ?
So is this physically located at the position that you indicate (small brain) or is it actually located a short distance away from the head in a band like it's corresponding counterpart the so called akashic records though connects to and interacts with the Cerebellum which then becomes an interface between consciousness based activity and chemical - electromagnetic activity of the physical brain resulting in thinking ?
Then you state:
"the material sub-consciousness which is located in the Cerebellum (small-brain) receives those impulses from the pineal gland and sends impulses to the material consciousness which is the Cerebrum (big-brain), these impulses in the material consciousness create thoughts and feelings"
So with this concerning the material consciousness are you saying the material consciousness with it's continuous processes is actually located in the Cerebrum and it's activities occur in that location in physical reality ?
Is this the mental equivalent of a computer processor ..... the data cruncher ?
So with this are there 2 levels ... consciousness level bioelectromagnetic circuitry & vibrations interfacing with chemical - electrical processes that make up the substance and activity of the actual brain tissue ?
If so is the material consciousness then also located "off the physical head somewhat" but connected to the Cerebrum via a bridging interface or does it actually reside within the brain tissue area ?
What i'm getting at is the mind/brain's capacity for rewiring and restoration of capacity after trauma or physical damage of the actual physical tissue.
Both are different types of damage ..... one leaves physical bruises, the other unseen bruises.
If the entire system is split though connected between physical and non physical (consciousness level subatomic) this would somewhat explain the redundancy and capacity for rewiring or switching over to an undamaged counterpart or portion to facilitate continued functioning and healing and a healers capacity to impact upon psychological issues using only projected thought or induction - redistribution of the life force via the hands or both in combination.
Cheers.
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Silence
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 05:07 am: |
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Greetings,
I think it was in this discussion that this man was mentioned along with a link to a video presenting him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aos0hnwiHt8
Well, after some research I discovered that after the airing of the documentary called "The Ring of fire" in which the footage of "Dynamo Jack" was included, numerous people , maybe hundreds came to Java looking for him ,hoping to find him and maybe become his apprentice ( or just wanted to discover the secret to his powers for their own selfish needs ).
One of them was a man called Kosta Danaos - former engineer for General Dynamics, martial arts instructor and freelance writer. He's Greek as his name can tell us.
Well - he found him and later on wrote a book called "The Magus of Java&" followed by "Nei Kung: The Secret Teachings of the Warrior Sages"
I have read both books. Very interesting stuff. But also many questions arise in when compared to the Meier material. These powers that Kosta was a witness to include pyrogenesis, levitation, telekinesis and others. What's interesting is the science behind it which is explained by mr John Chang ("dynamo Jack"). Also included are stories of his master, his own story of his tutelage under him, Kirises that "have their own minds" ( fluidal forces? ) and that can move on their own and many others. |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 614
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 04:50 pm: |
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Hello Carlos,
These experiences are actually quite common amongst people, only a few people know how and why these things occur.
Developing the 7th sense is really worth while, since it would allow for such an improved sense of reality, people would think differently about people and the nature around them.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Jonas
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 03:44 am: |
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Hi guys
Wallace D. Wattles wrote a book that sums up nature and creation and how to use it finallly a desription of nature BEAM always mentioned that I never understood. Creation above all is an energy, thought energy that conects us all in the deepest recesses of our minds that is thought, for thought of creation grows trees and make mountains that take years to build. Consequently the thoughts you hold in your mind combined whith physical effort become materialised if you consentrate on them continuously, the real form of prayer. Like the church people go and prey once a week with the ritual the church performs and go out into the world during the week mindless caught up in all lifes issues. Our prt of nature is our thought energy, the spirit of creation we have control over , Thats why our thoughts should be gaurded at all times. Creation is above everything.If you think of something enough it materialises and it can be anything , peace wealth, happyness, there is no boundry or limit to creation, Just like nature from a seed smaller than a grain of rice a 100 foot tall red wood grows from the thought of creation just like all natural things. Ingrediants is mainly thought and time. Every human posses this thought energy linked to creation.The trick is to think of it constantly every spare minute you have time to yourself, that is true prayer. Although this is not an easy task with all the distractions. Just remember back when you where a child and you really did not have much to worry about or think about and when you wanted something like candy or toys you would think about them constantley and they would materialise. The creational energy is the blessed spirit that can do anything your mind wants it to if you think about it . But Mr, Wattles explains the spirit way beyond mine and its awsome power readily available for us all, The universe is just probobly one of creations thoughts including our life force that dances with in us grasping expirience to grow larger as we feed it more thought good or bad.
Peace from John  |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 349
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2011 - 08:02 am: |
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Hi John, when you say that your thoughts should be guarded at all times, I think thoughts of peace, love and harmony should never be guarded.
I also like your comment that "the church people go and prey" - true words (even though it was probably a spelling error). Good one.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Silence
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2011 - 01:27 pm: |
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I think what he meant by "thought's should be guarded" was that because of the importance of one's thoughts - they should not be left without guard, as in - always being aware of your thought's. So that you give in to the "skillful" thoughts, but weed out the thought's that are harmful before they manifest in your action's. |
Sitkaa
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Post Number: 471
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 08:02 am: |
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Love is not so much a thought as a mutual awareness.
One's identity, the egoic egg, can choose to partake or not.
Peace and harmony are similarly not thoughts so much as attributes of the relationship, and more generally of the vibe.
Fur leben.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 351
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 09:31 am: |
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Hi Michael, creation is love and love is creation. I'm not talking about the mutual love between two people. Peace, love and harmony are thoughts and they actually don't just stay in your head, they ooze from your whole being. They may affect anyone you come in contact with, especially those that don't have a spiritual blockade and can receive them.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Jonas
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Post Number: 56
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 03:55 am: |
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Hi Guys
Your thoughts are conected to the spirit of creation so if you think constantly about someting to materialise in time it will materialise.Your mind is a transmitter to creation and creation always returns to transmision if it is continuous. Everything in the room you are sitting in even the computor you are using began as a thought in a person's mind . Forget the God stuff and the peace thoughts for a second ( If you want to think harm on people which some do you must be a very sick person). This is based also on your emotional feelings as you must know your materialisations will happen because the creational universe is there to create among many other things my mind could or would never comprehend. It has been scientifically proven also.Thank BeAm for starting my journey into the world hidden from mankind. Basisally you can have whatever you want peace, love,money,health nothing is impossible. Remember one thing everything accept nature that was made by man began with a thought , that thought energy is connected to pure thought energy which is creation or as BEAM puts it the firmament.Every thing he has done came from his mind his thoughts guided by beings more advanced in the field of knowledge, our bodies are all going to fail sooner or later and we will die but having part of life's hidden treasures or tools that have been hidden and covered up by the rich and hollywood so they can bignote them selves. The pentagon in america , the pentagram given to King soloman from angels from above, a sacred device made to look evil as most associate it with witchcraft and demons. The star of solomans son David, the so called Jews wear, this has sacred power itself of protection. I could go on but it is all meaning less when you make the thought conection to creation. But creation will end up dragging you through situations you may not like to reach the destination or whatever you keep thinking of. DON'T YOU JUST LOVE IT just ask Billy or Jmanuel they know to get to their materialisation however long it takes is knowing creation is creating situations in you life some unfavourable to your mortal being for the shortest path to your thought that you think constantly of. Its the treaure of all treasures and the treasure of creation belongs to everybody that can think of something. I hope what I wrote made some sense .
Love and peace to every body
John |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 585
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 01:32 am: |
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I read that after Billy used his consciousness abilities to demonstrate "tricks" like bending spoons, heating coins red-hot etc., he felt exhausted.
Question:
Is it possible that such release of mental-fluidal energy demands a high degree of concentration which again demands huge amount of physical energy, and as a result there is drop in the blood sugar level resulting in the feeling-cold sensation ("cold-sweats") and weak at the knees feeling?
"There are many more wrong answers than right ones, and they are easier to find." - Michael Friedlander
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Rarena
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Post Number: 682
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 10:31 am: |
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Hi Smukhuti,
Good question... sounds logical... it may very well be The Creation "balancing" the flow of energy.
I've always thought about the Kreb's cycle being a very interesting function of the human body and would make a nice way to heat or cool our homes...
Wanted to add... it may also be, that since... "cold sweats", "weak at the knees feelings" are predominately associated with the coarse-material side of the equation... that is... the first five senses... involved with bodily organs: ears, skin, tongue etc etc... When senses go beyond bodily coarse matter senses: fluidal energies... or fine matter sensual energies (senses) when tapped correctly... it is my understanding (and I may very well be wrong about this) are predominately associated with those senses and systems not related to any bodily organ and therefore not equally taxed by using them. There is an area of friction that I can see... that is, our beliefs... that which we think... we know, that is... believe we know... may cause friction at the sensor of correct and incorrect information transfer (OM) limitating the flow of knowledge/consciousness from one point to the next.
Also, the difference in "texture" between the fine matter and course matter energy transmission forms may cause a friction (inflamatory reaction) due to the actual size and gradation differentials. Such as attempting to roll a golf ball through a small piece of tubular pasta as a "material" analogy. In other words... the cold sweats and other feelings may be related to the balancing effect caused by the reaction between the spirtual (conscious/unconscious) fine matter and physical (unconscious) coarse matter aspect of our physiology. I hope this makes sense... to the fine matter senses anyway... eh eh... Sheesh! |
Edward
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Post Number: 2079
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 02:50 am: |
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Hi SUV....
I would say, your points are correct; Randy, has some interesting input, also.
I would say, it just depends on HOW MUCH energy you have to your disposal.
If One would bend spoons, etc., just as Billy did, of course, there would come
a moment that he would have to Regenerate, himself. And of course, his
Exhaustion will be neutralized.
So, it be Consciousness related Powers or just the mentioned, etc.: there will
always come a time of Exhaustion. Quite Natural.
Thus, Mentally and Physically it does demands very much of an individual.
We must not forget, that Fluidal Forces must also be kept within our range to
make us function properly, as we and our body should. We must not lose too
much Fluidal Forces...in our daily life. [Utilize Search Engine; was discussed
not to Shower too long or lay in Tub too long, etc.; One will sense the loss
of Energy during the mentioned which, is not positive for Oneself and Body,
etc....]
Edward. |
Sitkaa
Member
Post Number: 478
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 03:22 am: |
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Smukhuti, here is how I make sense of it:
When there is a need for such things to occur, the focus, the fascination is much easier to find. Billy was exhausted by his miraculous 'tricks' because he was relying upon his will of consciousness to do them, When there is a need too do something, a genuine focused need that is unconcerned with anything else, then little will is required.
Fur leben.
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 210
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 03:29 pm: |
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Hello Jacob,
I have been struggling to find an understanding (the requirements, mechanism and development) to verse 262 below. I have been searching and seeking in my studies and have had no success. I have the feeling the answer is contained in some other source. I have something I am working hard to accomplish and if it is possible, would like to get some direction to a study source or perhaps you would be able to share something to its regard. Thnx.
Arahat Athersata
"The Precious One Who Contemplates the Times"
p.132-134
262. Richtig denken und wissen ist eine so ungeheure Macht, dass sie restlos alles anzuziehen und herbeizuziehen vermag, was der Mensch sich denkt und ersehnt.
262. Correct thinking and knowledge is such a monstrous power that it is able to ceaselessly attract and bring into being everything that the human thinks and longs for.
Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 657
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 04:26 pm: |
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Hello Eddie,
I will answer this tomorrow, however the key lies in the law of cause and effect, and the fact that you can see nature as an enormous clockwork, if you use the mechanism right you will be able to use it to your own logical advantage.
Have you ever used the tip of your finger over the edge of glass, making circles until it will resonate and start to 'sing', these are vibrations who amplify similar vibrations even up to a breaking point of the glass, they become that powerful.
Its the same principle for thought, if they are natural and logical, they will harmonize and group with similar forces in nature itself, very similar to a laser-beam where light of the same frequency is focussed.
A very nice fact is to know that the language of the Creation lies in these kinds of examples, its the symbol language of the Creation which is readable in Nature as well.
I will write more in depth about this tomorrow. I hope this helps so far.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 591
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 09:12 am: |
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Hi Eddie,
When you think correctly, you would base your thinking on facts and logical steps i.e. you would not base your assessment on beliefs and would not set your expectation on meeting unachievable targets.
The human being has the ability that whatever he wants to achieve, would be possible (in due time) if & if the physical and spiritual laws permit the same and the correct effort in the right direction are taken to achieve the target. In other words, correct thinking would help you plan out and execute a series of actions, and the law of cause and effect would ensure that you get what you desire.
Jacob, correct me if I am wrong.
"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Mohandas K. Gandhi
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Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 662
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 12:20 pm: |
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Smukhuti,
You dont need me to tell you are right or wrong, I am not in that position. I only feel the need to respond if I have the impression that someone willingly and knowingly is posting disinformation.
I think your answer is good, and even when you are wrong, you can learn from the mistake.
It's how we learn, the answers can only be found by your own logical thinking and your ability to make mistakes and learn from them.
Nobody can provide real answers, it is first information which needs to be analyzed thoroughly by your own logical thinking in order for it to become a real answer.
Only then its a real answer because your own logic has independently proven it.
I hope that makes sense.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 214
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 01:04 pm: |
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Hello Smukhuti
(#591)
Thank you for your reply my friend. I have, thus far, grasped what you posted. But I can't get rid of this nagging thought that there is more to it than what I have gained up to this point. In my daily meditative exercise sessions, I utilize the Goblet of Truth together with the TJ and some of the posts I have printed out to supplement my study. It is during these sessions that I keep getting the feeling that there is more. I am familiar with books like The Science of Getting Rich, You Were Born Rich, Napoleon Hill's books and even Tony Robbins and such. There is something within the posts about the spirit teachings that have struck a chord within me. I'm sure you understand what I mean. Perhaps what I'm longing for is more of what these spirit levels have to teach and not so much temporal. I don't know.
It sort of feels as if my foot is stuck and I can't progress further down the road. I must be missing something.
Thank you again my friend.
Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 663
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 02:01 pm: |
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I will share some of my thoughts about this subject matter.
Arahat Athersata
"The Precious One Who Contemplates the Times"
p.132-134
262. Richtig denken und wissen ist eine so ungeheure Macht, dass sie restlos alles anzuziehen und herbeizuziehen vermag, was der Mensch sich denkt und ersehnt.
262. Correct thinking and knowledge is such a monstrous power that it is able to ceaselessly attract and bring into being everything that the human thinks and longs for.
When you create an idea in accordance with the natural creative laws and recommendations and based on your knowledge then this is called in the Geisteslehre (Spirit teaching), KREATIVSEIN (being creative). (in the book Genesis page 121, 122, etc)
KREATIVSEIN (being creative) is the spiritual will (set a goal, goal and destination / Zielsetzung, Ziel und Bestimmung), it will set spiritual forces in function to act according to the law of cause and effect, exactly based on your logical idea.
This will radiate from you and will function exactly as intended because it’s a logical idea based on the natural creative laws and recommendations, in this case, Nature will work with you, and not against you.
An example: You can swim much faster with the current of a river then against it.
Those spiritual forces/consciousness-related forces have a maximum range as determined by the idea that caused these forces in the first place, they return to the sender, to you. Like a boomerang.
Since you live in a collective oneness called the Creation your thoughts influence the collective and it will resonate accordingly.
The spiritual forces/consciousness-related forces will return amplified manifold and bring your desired result into being, your idea materializes.
This is a law of the Creation valid in both the material and spiritual.
Think of this, have you ever thrown a rock in a lake; you see the ripples spreading out, touching everything in its path, and bouncing back to you and everyone else.
This gives two insights:
1. What you do, will come back to you, exactly how you determined it.
2. Everything you do, no matter what, no matter how, WILL touch everything else. There is absolutely no thought or action so small that wont touch the Creation.
The Creation lives in absolute oneness with everything created so it is absolutely impossible that ones thoughts and actions does not affect the Creation as a whole. This may seem exaggerated, but it the truth.
Think of the butterfly effect, which in Chaos theory the flap of the wing of a butterfly can cause a hurricane.
I think with this cognition, we can see how big our responsibility is towards the Creation and everything within it, when we become truly aware of what we think and do we can avoid a lot of suffering and evolve towards our goal.
I hope this helps.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 216
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 02:18 pm: |
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Jacob,
Thank you. I will print this out and have it with me during my meditation exercise and studies today. The timing was perfect. Your post struck other chords anew. Are those books translated which you quoted from?
The works that Billy has published seem to get deeper and more profound with each work. If he were making this stuff up, he would be the world's greatest genius.
Thank you very much for the reply. I will put it to good use soon.
Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 592
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 12:58 pm: |
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Hi Jacob,
Yes, I understood what you meant. I hoped that you would not change your mind regarding your determination "I will answer this tomorrow". I also thought that being a passive member; you would be in a better position to quote from the spirit teaching which should be much more informative than what I came up with my own thinking/logic. And after reading your post #663, my assumptions prove to be correct!
"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Mohandas K. Gandhi
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Mahigitam
Member
Post Number: 378
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 11:28 pm: |
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http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Asket's_Explanations_-_Part_7
Jmmanuel :
192. Truly, I know where it(Talmud of Jmmanuel) will be, and I will tell you the precise place at a later point in time.
I think, the place where the Talmud is, was given to Billy by Asket whom must have been informed by Jmmanuel through Time Travel.
Is it possible for a person like Billy to contact Jmmanuel, who is in another dimension(Past) ?
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Jmmanuel :
251. But we will see each other again and speak of very many things yet
DId they meet more than once ? Is it physically or telepathically ?
All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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