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Bianca
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Post Number: 95
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 01:45 am: | 
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Instead of keep worrying and assuming and imagining and hypothesising etc. about all possible negative scenarios, wouldnt we be better off if we all came together and finally realized that we as Figu members have great power to do good> We can participate in the Peace Meditation if we really want to make a difference world wide!!! Even sending positive thoughts out there would make a significant difference, just remember that the Plejaren and their federation members are doing their immense best to help us "worms" down here. Why cant we do the same in the name of World Peace?
btw, what i remember reading... if Iran is attacked... China will destroy israel, and to be frank... I dont think israel wants to be obliterated, yet! So no ww3 according to my thinking!
Lets focus on the Positive!
Smile!
…Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All.
OM
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Earthling
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Post Number: 613
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 03:15 am: |
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Good for you, Bianca.
and in relation to that thinking;
from Billy's blog (short part) this week.
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The Future
For weak humans, the future is a horror and unattainable/unreachable,
and for the timid, anxiety and oppressive;
however for courageous/brave ones,
a good time for the best progress,
as well as for success and prospering/development.
Zukunft
Für schwache Menschen
ist die Zukunft Schrecken
und Unerreichbares, und
für den Furchtsamen eine
Beklemmung, jedoch für
Mutige eine gute Zeit für
besten Fortschritt sowie
für Erfolg und Gedeihen.
SSSC, 4. Juli 2011
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 05:30 am: |
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Dearest Bianca,
Now that is what I call perspective plus action put with it! Well Done!
"Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new."
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Hawaiian
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 12:09 pm: |
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The primary reasons why there is so much friction in the Middle East is because of oil and religion. I think there is mentioned about a soon to be discovered new energy source either by scientists from China or Japan that will lessen dependence on the monopoly that oil has on nations, thus also lessen the chances of WW3. |
Sarah
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 06:47 pm: |
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I think, maybe its not that politicians don't get these impulses, its that they choose to ignore them.
Even if a new resources (Fuel Source) lessen the chances of WWIII, you would still have to deal with religious wars as long as religion still exist. And there are other resources too we might run out of. (Religion in the Earth since of the word.) |
Cpl
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Post Number: 610
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 05:11 am: |
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Hello Hawaiian,
We now have, or are in the process of developing, a far cheaper source or energy. It is nothing mysterious but does perhaps relate to something Billy and Quetzal have talked about.
I am not aware of Billy saying this was coming from the Japanese or Chinese; he merely mentioned that a remarkably cheap almost free source of energy would revolutionize our energy systems. It seems to me this is still off in the future.
The cheaper energy system we are apparently converting to is Natural Gas. This will become clearer if/when the popularly-coined Picken's Bill is passed later this year. This will begin the establishment of LNG stations across the US; and the simple conversion of gasoline cars to LNG cars that will run at a mere fraction of the cost of running oil fired cars.
Already increasing numbers of trucks are converting to LNG for economic reasons; each truck can save approximately $75,000 a year on running costs according to estimates. The US Marcellus shale deposits will swamp the US with gas at a very cheap price, and the US is already awash in NG.
Hopefully this will reduce the threat of WWIII. We know we don't have to buy into any political lie that our oil reserves are worth going to war over.
NG is everywhere. Europe has its own supply; it is even bigger than the Marcellus deposits, and exists around the Baltic region. What is particularly interesting about this is that Europe will certainly go ahead and use this resource rather than import NG from the US or Russia.
Now this means massive mining and fracking in Europe on a scale unimaginable before. I have often wondered how the Red Meteor could result in the possible splitting of the land mass between the Black Sea and the North Sea resulting in the formation of a new (presumably island European) continent. Our scientists' meteor impact models just do not see this as a possibility from a mere 360m diameter meteor.
When, however, we input the incredibly weakened geology after extracting inconceivable amounts of gas from the soon-to-be fractured rocks beneath Europe we begin to see just why Quetzal said this rending of the Earth's crust is "possible" but not yet certain. Perhaps at the time he was unsure whether the Europeans would be going ahead with this massive mining project under their lands because it wasn't even discovered at the time.
Now we know that it is very likely -- unless there is action to prevent it -- that the massive fracking and upcoming extraction of immeasurable volumes of NG from right across the Baltic regions could weaken the geological structure of Europe to just such an extent that what Quetzal warned of could indeed happen.
Moderators, I am unsure where to post this and so am coping it also to the "Plejaren asteroid warning" thread. So any relevant replies can be posted there.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 05:57 am: |
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Pehea'oe? Hawaiian,
Don't forget the Opium fields!
A hui hou <3<3<3
"Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new."
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Sarah
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Post Number: 143
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 09:28 am: |
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Also we got to remember that Natural Gas is also a nonrenewable resource as well. We eventually need to find an alternative renewable source.
In a way this is both related to a possible war scenario too, in that we could either be facing extreme global warming, or some country is developing an actual climate weapon.
But that just makes going to war even sillier don't you think? Why go to war to disarm nuclear weapons, when your a super power thats developing Haarp, a considerably nastier weapon?
Thats like saying its bad to have a little stick, but its fine for me to have a big stick. |
Hawaiian
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 12:00 pm: |
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Bronzedesk,
Maika'i no au, mahalo (I feel fine, thank you)..you speak Hawaiian? Maybe if the politicians start smoking high grade pakalolo they may become more mellow and not agitated to start wars in order to keep their oil cronies and military complex buddies awash in profits while everyone else suffers?
The Peace Meditation process is a “reactionary” measure to counter-act the negative impulse energies created by others mainly through religious nonsense and other illogical materialistic endeavors to also include greed, lust of power est. However it is conceivable to utilize the same principle but instead become “actionable” to respond to a major crisis looming, which threatens the very existence of members participating in the Peace Meditation.
How is this possible? One has to study how the ancient Hawaiians conducted both spiritual therapy and its reverse application in psychic warfare. There was a balance between these forces by trained kahunas, however it is a dangerous endeavor where the loser often loses their life.
The way I see it, if you and your loved ones are about to get killed by stupid materialistic morons obsessed with their egotistic madness bend on destroying the Earth along with equally insane religious mad men, then taking them out is a defensive act to prevent such offensive evil from occurring. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 658
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 10:29 pm: |
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Aloha,
Probably not too many who engage in the peace meditation would be willing to bring along an effigy doll and collection of knitting needles.
Those wacky materialistic morons obsessed with their egotistic madness bend on destroying the Earth along with equally insane religious mad men .... so many to choose from and so few dolls.
I think activities like the occupy wall street movement are doing effective work in getting an increasing number of minds directed towards the right sort of ideas ..... ask questions, dont accept the lies, secrecy and viewpoints of corporate interests your government and the mass media promote .... withdraw your support through simple acts like not watching television or buying newspapers.
Cheers.
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Theredpill
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 07:21 am: |
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Sarah,
Interesting you mentioned climate weapon. Do you read Nostradamus's translations? One talked about weather controlling technology and another earthquake weapon... |
Matthew
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 05:28 am: |
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Salome,
Why did a BBC TV news report yesterday show brief and unscheduled footage of Israeli soldiers descending a military helicopter onto Iranian soil described by the reporter as an invasion with Obama urging restraint and then there be nothing, absolutely NOTHING more about it anywhere since? Could it be the same reason why the Iranian news station PressTV lost its UK license or why a cross-platform computer virus has been causing havoc in the IT world?
I think that we may be seeing the beginning of a new cold war only this one may not be so quiet if Billy Meier's prophecies are to be understood.
Matthew |
Sarah
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 02:07 pm: |
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I didn't hear about that, I'll take a look. Interesting trivia, a lot of conspiracy theorists hypothesize that perhaps the Earth groans, are part of this development. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2337
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 01:17 am: |
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Hi Bianca....
Long time no hear...??
Sure: let us focus on the positive!
Israel, would first have to stop building their settlements. Just, last week,
it was mentioned that Nathanyaho cleared to build more settlements; he has a
habit of stopping the building there....and than, building 'over there', so to
speak; a real flip-flopper! Now, he is doing it again....
If Israel does not want to be obliterated, than they should start there!
More and more countries are not supporting Israel, anymore; only US and our
little Holland, here; Nathanyaho came for a visit last week...just to thank
Holland for still....supporting them. But, it was positive that the minister
told Nathanyaho to stop....building settlements, which made him a 'sour-grape'
of course, and which he did not expect to hear.
Aspects, that Israel should take heed to...I would think. And not make misuse
of the monopoly....
Edward. |
Sonik_01
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Post Number: 278
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 07:32 am: |
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Hi,
I really love your post #95, Bianca, and I completely agree it is more positive to do this, but...
But we just may have to live with the possibility that WWIII might become a reality. Wishing it away, or doing everything in our power to avoid it, despite all our best efforts, may not stop it, because there is such an amount of enormous negative factors already set into motion, like trying to stop an avalanche from occurring only after the first few bits of snow have started to accumulate and run down the hill.
I think we are only at the beginning of this avalanche, and should really just buckle down, buy the food, do the Peace Meditation, and expect the best. Other than that, there is really nothing we can do. The Peace Meditation has its limits, and if it is unable to prevent the war, then at least it will be able to minimize its effects. The Peace Meditation may help us avoid the worse consequences of the war, but we at least have to still consider the stark reality that the war may happen, or most likely will happen.
I am in no way trying to sadden or demoralize anyone, just thinking out loud, from seeing all the things going on out there. There is no need for sadness or anguish; only preparation. There is no harm in preparing, and there is no harm in seeing the logical facts as they are.
I think we are definitely destined (from our previous actions) to see something major; if not a full-blown conflict, then a minor to moderate event. In any case, were anything to happen, and were we to experience suffering, humanity will not be lost. There is no need to worry ourselves sick about it. We should not fear death. and we should try to accept suffering as a temporary circumstance that we find ourselves in.
Only those who are incredibly rich and plush, living in million-dollar homes and mansions have never suffered, and that's why they can't consider the suffering they inflict on others. Experiencing or overcoming any form of suffering or difficulty to them is completely alien. They have never had to work a day in their lives, or work for a meal, or have ever had anyone say "no" to them, about anything. They have never had to suffer a consequence, and everything to them is "yes, yes, yes" from the day they are born to the day they die. Consequently, they develop no empathy or compassion or awareness of others, nor dot they care. These people are not aware at all of any suffering which they might inflict on others, and they are never aware of the consequences of their actions, and hence, will continue, despite all warnings and reason to follow the same old path, until everything crumbles around them.
That is why I think we should not concern ourselves overly with the future, but only to try to make the most of the present, as that is in our hands to change. Also, we should consider that there are huge amounts of people in the world who suffer a lot more than us: the mentally ill, the homeless, the starving, the uneducated, those who slave for one or two dollars a day, the drug-addicted prostitutes, etc., etc., etc., The list could go on and on, and those people would gladly welcome the day of their deaths with open arms, so we should look upon our own suffering with a little more toughness or detachment and say "It must be done.", or "I will survive.", or "It is only temporary", or whatever you want to say to yourself.
If anything, try to celebrate and enjoy the life you've been given now rather than to regret the life you've lived once you're gone. In other words, "Live for the best, but prepare for the worse."
In order to fulfill this, we have to work on our thought-emotional balance and increase our values like peace, love and harmony. We need to gain an equilibrium in our minds (through meditation) between the fine-matter realm and the course-material life, in order to bring about in ourselves the values of peace, love, and harmony, as well as patience, forbearance, forgiveness, reconciliation and benevolence, so that the material world does not overwhelm us. That is all we can do.
Like I said, Biance, I love your #95 post, but I just wanted to give a slightly different perspective, from a level of sadness and helplessness that we may all encounter from time-to-time, at the absolute frustration and ignorance/apathy we are faced with in dealing with these things during everyday life.
Salome, |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 356
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 12:47 pm: |
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Just a thought.
* From Earthling (post#613) above. Written by Billy.
The Future
For weak humans, the future is a horror and unattainable/unreachable,
and for the timid, anxiety and oppressive;
however for courageous/brave ones,
a good time for the best progress,
as well as for success and prospering/development.
Zukunft
FĂĽr schwache Menschen ist die Zukunft Schrecken und Unerreichbares, und fĂĽr den Furchtsamen eine Beklemmung, jedoch fĂĽr Mutige eine gute Zeit fĂĽr besten Fortschritt sowie fĂĽr Erfolg und Gedeihen.
SSSC, 4. Juli 2011 1.03 h, Billy
Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Sarah
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Post Number: 148
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 02:04 pm: |
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Another words, buy materials now, because the war may happen now, or at a time when money becomes worthless? |
Sonik_01
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Post Number: 279
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 05:12 pm: |
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Btw: Eddiemartin,
You completely missed my point.
Besides that, I am not sure if you are unaware that we are all humans here, and we will all feel sadness from time to time, especially those of us that can see and feel the horrors all around us, and can empathize with those who are suffering.
If someone feels pain, and nobody cares, will that person go away? Some people wish it were so...
It is just an unavoidable truth that the most courageous ones must face and feel the worse fears and pain at some point, or throughout their lifetimes, some more than others. However, feeling the pain, accepting the pain and working to overcome the pain is what truly makes us courageous, and human. It also takes some form of maturity and sense of reason to not run away from the pain and hide; to face it squarely, to feel it, accept it, and work with it. This is not possible for some people because their sense of responsibility is lacking. |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 03:51 pm: |
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Thanks Eddie and Earthling for pointing this out.
"For weak humans, the future is a horror and unattainable/unreachable,
and for the timid, anxiety and oppressive;
however for courageous/brave ones,
a good time for the best progress,
as well as for success and prospering/development."
- BEAM, c. 2011
This seems to say to me that we gotta have the backbone enough to be progressive in the face of incredulity,
else our group faces the worst that humanity has to offer.
It is a strong message.
How shall we actualize this?
By building communities? By starting businesses?
Why don't you tell me?
Relatedly, I was recently rereading the first contact. It says,
"33. So there are species that have acquired much knowledge and have freed themselves from their environment; they travel through space and also occasionally come to Earth.
34. Many of them are rather unpleasant creatures and live in a certain barbarism that frequently is nearly as bad as the terrestrials'.
35. One must be on one's guard from them because they often attack and destroy everything that gets in their way.
36. Often they have destroyed whole planets or forced their inhabitants into barbaric slavery.
37. This is one of our tasks:
38. To warn the people on Earth of these creatures.
39. Let the people know this because the time is approaching when a conflict with these degenerate human creatures becomes unavoidable.
- Semjase, c. 1975
By now, I think we can pretty well expect that most people on this planet are gonna ignore the Plejaren, and that any FIGU group that exists in the future is gonna be on its own in trying to prepare for this conflict. Preparing for this sorta thing will take centuries from where we currently stand. We should start now.
How shall we actualize our efforts?
By building communities? By starting businesses?
Why don't you tell me?
Life
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Sonik_01
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Post Number: 280
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 03:51 pm: |
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Exactly Sarah.
As Ptaah would say, : That is of correctness. |
Sarah
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 05:51 am: |
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Of coarse not saying it wouldn't help to think "nuetral-positively" while I'm buying shelters for friends. But I think my focus will be in keeping them alive.
I already got the book on temp shelter building.
On the news, it said the European Union definitly passed the Iran Sanctions thing. Lets hope for the best, and hope it doesn't escelate. |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 09:50 am: |
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G'day Michaelhelfert
We need to be strong in Spirit all times, weak humans find horror in anything. Fear helps nothing i have tried it ;-)
Some of the older members show signs they havnt read the Spiritual Teachings or they havnt for years and years and years, brush up on The Spirit Please (if thats you), with the teachings you can face anything and heal those scars forever.
Consider Forgetting the ww3 thread for a while as Beam says if it happens it happens.
Yes i know we have issues on this planet but it must not sap your energy, We need to be Neutral Positive. We are (Concious Realists) with the power of The Creations Teachings.
We are like Captain Kirk with Spocks logic. ;-) Its not being heartless its survival. Stress makes you old fast.
Are you observing The Beauty of The Creation daily and walking on the grass? My favourite is looking at my Garden and all the things in it while sitting in long grass, The best would be the stars Or the beach,the clouds,the rain or maybe my 2 Naughty Cats.
Maybe even for some of you Dont try too hard e.g. Meditate to be with The Creation sometimes, it dosnt have to be for anything other than that, relax with The Creation. Fill up your energy banks
Maybe start with:
Listen to Mein Geist German
Read the 12 step meditation
Yes i have seen darkness, more than most from a young age, We are here to evolve, we use our life to do this.
To know Heaven you need to know ?
Where is Heaven and Where is Hell?
To hate someone you are hating yourself and The Creation.
Being Negative at this stage you will lose any psy you have gained
You know that trick to remember your dreams, it works for other things. Work it out.
I see Jacob has a beautiful post that should be framed, Jacob you always lift me when i think i couldnt be lifted any higher, Your posts go so deep.
As i read the forum you arrive just when i need something deep where i go WOW!
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Reverence and venerability are the primal forces of all knowledge. (2011 version)
If we really want to thank Billy Beam and the Plejaren the best way is we evolve as fast as we can. The best way to do that is?
Oh yes and milk makes men girl like in mind and body
A weak spirit is someone who didnt read the teachings
Salome
Peter
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 357
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 10:44 am: |
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Sonik_01
I did not miss your point, nor did I state something in contradiction to it. I simply added to yours and others for the benefit of anyone reading this thread now or in the future. I can't help but see that not all values have been considered by some of us. I'll explain my cognition a bit in my reply to Michaelhefert.
Michaelhelfert, those are good questions you posted.
I can't help but feel that Billy is speaking as one would to a child, in attempting to tell the child something that will help with all that life will throw at the child. We cannot address every single thing the child will confront, so we keep it as neutral as possible so that it will have the range and flexibility so the child can apply it in all things that could happen in life. The difference here is that Billy (spiritform) is an Arahat Athersata, with unique advantages, foresight, insights and experience with hundreds if not hundreds of thousands of planets like this one where the Federation has worked with him in bringing the teachings to terrestrials across the universe. Some times enduring for thousands of years on each planet. That's a lot of experience.
It is easy to get caught up in the prophecies to the extent that we fathom them as predictions.
The answer to your two questions is "yes" if that is what impulses you received from contemplation and pondering. If this is what you sought to know from your own consciousness and this was the impression(s) you received.
It is not that time, yet, on this planet, when the terrestrials will have gained enough insight and evidence towards the illogical and irrational idea of divinities, heavens and hells. I've learned to not seek to "wake up" someone from the religious delusion; I only seek to find those individuals who are ready and open to it. Only such individuals are in a healthy enough mental & physical state to hear, contemplate and ponder the message of the real spirit teachings.
Never the less, in retrospection, one can clearly see that humanity has been going through an evolutive process. There has been much change through the past decades and there appears to be that change is still occurring and human beings are acting with the appropriate gewalt (as described in the Goblet of Truth by Billy) whereby degeneracies of thoughts, deeds and actions of the conscienceless are being addressed. I give the following examples: Occupy Wall Street, Arab Spring, etc. China stated that if Israel attacks they will obliterate Israel off the map and Russia said they will launch nuclear bombs if the U.S. acts. Billy/Plejarens stated that "much good" was going to come from Russia...
As to Semjase's statement: Hopefully, we will have gained enough from reincarnating as "true human beings" that our weapons technologies will be enough to defend ourselves as we deal with these degenerates in an exemplary way and with the appropriate gewalt. I do not sense that Semjase is suggesting any humility or fear towards them, but, that we should have a clear sense of the reality so that correct measures and steps can be taken.
But this is my take on it and I could be in error.
Please share your insights from your Consciousness and meditation. Perhaps you have incorporated an element or value into your calculations that I have missed or omitted.
Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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