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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 600
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Tom

I can think of two more reasons to be optimistic that a third world war will not occur at this time. From the English translation of The Henoch Prophecies as it appears in ASTF:

“The point in time, at which these prophecies will begin to be fulfilled, will be when a pope will no longer reside in Rome.”

And also:
“France and Spain become involved with each other in armed conflicts, and that even before World War Three will have broken out.”

Since neither of these appear to be happening in the near future it would be easy to be lulled into a false sense of security. However, we have to keep in mind that these are prophecies and not predictions and the unfolding of the events do not have to necessarily occur exactly so, since prophecies are subject to change. There could still be a world war of sorts but perhaps not as severe or in the expected manner. It is helpful to remain optimistic, but cautiously so.
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Matt
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My understanding is that if WW3 were to break out it will start with conventional weapons and then escalate to Nuclear, Biological and so forth weapons.

My other understanding is that as long as we have power hungry people in power, the threat of a third world fire will always be a possibility which could happen at any time frame, even well into the future.
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Sarah
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wouldn't say death of seven heads, but so far three heads of foreign countries in the Middle East have either been executed, or captured. That's including Ghadaffi.
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All...

I can understand - The Henoch Prophecies - interpretations, but...that was
THEN. If this and this would happen as said: this and this would happen, but,
we have to take heed to that many aspects have 'changed' through time, and
which no longer apply to the original scenario, I would think. Thus: much has
been averted.

As we go along, much has 'changed' for the better, but....still...WW3 can just
come around the corner, so to speak. And than, certain aspects in The Henoch
Prophecies, are dissolved.

This year is allegeable for the WW3 scenario(: Iran...Israel 2012 Prophecy,
but NOT per se...), as well as the comes years to come. WW3 is not 'fixed'.

Thus, it CAN...happen at any time....

Last News: US commented to Israel...that it was not wise to attack Iran. And
to let sanctions take its course....


Edward.
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Sarah
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also one thing I'll note before those that say WW3 wont happen hop on, is that not all of the henoch prophesies have to happen exactly as said for ww3 to happen. I think it was just an example of a possible scenario were we simply don't move past our ways that a war like catastrophy could take place.
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Hawaiian
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it not a fact that the symbol of inverted triangles that form the Israeli flag represents destruction and that their god Jeva or Jehva is known as the "Cruel One" who demmanded human blood sacrifices and responsible for untold amount of human sufferings that also date back when the jews conspired and led to the destruction of Atlantis and Mu?

The Israeli government is based on deceit and have no guilt to have the United States get involved to do their "dirty laundry", that's part of their historical background to have others clean up their mess although I do admit like in all nations, there are a few with honorable intentions to also include Israel, but not enough to make a difference for the better.

Iran is no innocent matter as well, just hope these two don't do something stupid that triggers WW3 because their leaders are not reasonable to behave in a civilized manner, but act on impulse of the barbaric nature.
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Earthling
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hawaiian, jews are even responsible for the destruction of Atlantis & Mu!?

What haven't they done! Can't trust them as far as you can throw them.

However, there is one fly in the ointment of the jews (in addition to all their other crimes) destroying Atlantis & Mu; I believe that destruction occurred about 12000 years ago. Yet Judaism did not arise for at least another 5000 years.

Too bad. We could have pinned another evil on them.
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Jamesm
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Earthling you seem to tar all Jews with the same brush. Is that the correct thing to do my friend?
James G. T. Moore
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Darren
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its not Jews, its Israel thats causing the trouble now!
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Earthling, to exaggerate the issue just to make a point is only fueling your own angry fires whilst confusing the original statement. Such a strategy does not lead to a genuine discussion, only to an argument.

Hebrew does rank among the oldest scripts in the world, just as Jerusalem does rank among the oldest cities in continuous use in the Arab lands of the Middle East. However, modern-day Jews themselves have a varied genetic history; the majority of them (Ashkenazim) do not have ethnic roots that trace back to Jerusalem/Palestine. Rather, they are a Caucasian/Mongoloid mix, come from the holy land of Georgia. Ever wonder why so many Jews look like Europeans? It is because so many of them are.

That's the problem with religion. You end up believing with all your heart and soul in abunch of fabricated historical nonsense. Unfortunately, in this case the fabricated nonsense is so entrenched in our modern culture that we are considering World War 3 to be a necessary evil because of it. More than anything else, that is what disturbs people, and that is why religious thinking is denigrated here.

Edit by Jacob
[snip] It has to end here and now, every cult-religious group, political party, people with money have caused problems on this planet. [snip]


(Message edited by jacob on February 25, 2012)
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Earthling
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jamesm,

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/parody
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Goodmanallen
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Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2012 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If I remember correctly, there would be civil unrest and even civil war in the USA before the outbreak of the third world fire? And there was also mention of there being great catastrophe that America was not yet done dealing with. Could this mean that the Cumbre-Viejo event in the Canary Islands, or the major earth quake off the northwest corner of the USA in the pacific ocean even?

Although there is much talk,(and very cavalier talk), about an Israeli attack on Iran lately, President Obama does not seem to be willing to back the Israeli government with the use of USA military, at least not before the elections in Nov. 2012 anyway. It would seem that this might also postpone the Russians predicted advance through Canada and Alaska as well.
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Sarah
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Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2012 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keep in mind though, that it was Israel who said they would attack Iran with or without the permission of the United States. (With that said, who honestly believes that the US wouldn't green light it, considering how war mongering we are?)
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Goodmanallen and Sarah...

Yes, well pointed out Sarah.


We still have to keep in mind, what is mentioned in the TJ.

That Israel, can still..."forfeit"...the(ir) possibility of peace, and only
generate 'the worse' scenario, for themselves. [Russia and China: Nuclear
strikes....]

We can not say, that Jmmanuel did not WARN them, no?

They can 'dissolve' peace and their state of Israel: 'within a snap of a
finger'!

Should give them something to THINK...about??


Edward.
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Sarah
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Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 05:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kind of reminds like, I've been doing my own research on the establishment of Israel, and they have been involved with more terrorism than what people give them credit for.O_o Now thats a paradigm shift.
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Edward
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Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sarah....

Well, the history of Israel has been detailed described in the FIGU materials
(as well in our planet history records), and they have - crossed the line -
more...than they could really afford, so to speak. One day, it can only go
wrong. And this would apply to ANY country, which has a Warmongering
leadership/attitude.

"One day they will meet themselves", as the saying goes...

"One day you will have to tell the spoiled child...it can not always have its
way", as they say.

Once the spoiled child is spoiled...it would take a great deal of time and
energy to guide him/her in the correct direction, no?


So, it be, US or Israel, or any other western country: as long as they occupy
countries which is not their origin: UNREST and resistance will be the
scenario of the day...; which is mentioned in the FIGU materials, and even, a
common logical thinking individual can produce such insight...from gathering
information through his/her own study and research.

Thus: it gives the western leaders (and allies) something to THINK about.


And like the Plejarans and Billy mentioned that individuals as Ben Laden and
Saddam Hoessein, etc., are a PRODUCT...of the west: Created by the west.
America as well as Israel, and their allies. They are just a Consequence... of
western behavior towards non-western countries. So, it is logical, that such
mentioned individuals show up on the scene. Any logical thinking individual
would also come to such conclusion. At least, I did, and I know may out there
too. As Billy mentioned many times: those with open eyes can see the truth as
it really is....

And, as Billy mentioned many times: we must LEARN from the past....and not
repeat it.

Peace to all creatures of Creation....


Edward.
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Matt
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"So, it be, US or Israel, or any other western country: as long as they occupy countries which is not their origin: UNREST and resistance will be the
scenario of the day.."


Hi Edward,

While I'm not saying that you don't know this, because I'm sure you do, but the Israeli people have been causing unrest, resistance and wars since ancient times before they occupied any land. Contact Report 136 sums it up best.



103. Especially now, it also confirms what has been said since ancient times, that the Israeli people originally never were an actual people, but that this mass of people, in ancient times, singly and alone consisted of a gigantic group of degenerate and partially even criminal elements, who during their existence on Earth at that time only incited discord, falseness and war.

104. Having come forth from the ones who were expelled, because they would not obey any order and were criminal, they assembled together in a mob in ancient times and formed the sham-people of the Hebraons, the gypsies, who in their megalomania and in selfishness and egoism, named themselves a chosen people, who wanted to take up an elevated and ruling position over all terrestrial peoples, as is indeed known to you.

105. But you also know that this sham-people over a very long time always reached its goals, however, always only through murder, arson, the betrayal of friendships, and intrigues, and so forth, whereby they, the original forefathers of today's Israelis, were truly masters.

106. Their distant descendents now, today's Israelis, respectively their responsible ones and their myrmidons can - like the U.S.A. - commit the worst crimes pitilessly and unhindered and with their secret services and military, right before the eyes of the world at large, and even with their approval.

107. Not only that the secret service and military have criminal elements and trustworthy friends in many nations of Earth, who they, as ever, simply brutally and bloodthirstily butcher as needed and to reach their goals, no, they also have - again like the USA - through their intrigues, also understood how to make the appropriate friends in the governments, the economic concerns and banks, and so forth, or even creep into these themselves, so that their power has already grown to the degree that this cannot be grasped and perceived by Earth humans any more.

http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_136
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Edward
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt...

I am familiar with that.

Yes, you are correct. You hit the nail on the head, there....


Edward.
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Sarah
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Post Number: 190
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to Michael Horn, Russia has just deployed roughly 1000 troops near Iran. I think its going to get ugly.
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Matt
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Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sarah, 1000 troops doesn't appear to be a large enough number yet to suspect Russia is preparing to attack Iran. But who knows if that is just the start. I sure hope things don't get ugly anyway! :-(

I found this disturbing when I saw it 3 months ago. On China State (controlled) Television, China threatens WW3 if anyone attacks Iran.

"China Threatens World War Three If Anyone Attacks Iran Dec 2011"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-3xeP7NFRE
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, March 26, 2012 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sarah....

I do not think that Russia may want to attack Iran. Up till today, Russia and
China, have supported Iran(; weapons and finances, etc.). Both countries have
delegations in negotiations; just as in Syria.

Perhaps, the Russian forces are there to aide Iran, if it is invaded/attacked?

All the countries the US want to invade have Russian and Chinese interests.

One day, the Russians and Chinese will not let the US (and allies) 'cross the
line', so to speak....


Edward.
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Sarah
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2012 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea thats what I was getting at. Why would Russia be attacking Iran? Its seems more like they would want to protect them.
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sarah ;

It could be that by attacking them , they put them in submission , then their protection . Kind of like 'neanderthal love' , or 'American foreign policy' , which is just about the same thing .

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