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Edward
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Post Number: 2376
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 26, 2012 - 01:00 am: | 
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Hi Melissa and Harvey....
Good points.
Like many of the Royalties...they seem to assume they are of 'clear'
conscience, when this indeed, is the contrary. Their forefathers have caused
very much bloodshed, in their own country as well as abroad.
We know of the example of (King) Arthur and his killing Knights, which were
described by the Plejarans as being the so-called: Killer Clones. They
murdered anyone or anything which did not agree with the King and his Monarchy
lineage, etc.
Just like it is today, when referred to (US) SEAL agents, or any elite Secret
Ops, etc., whom kill without conscience, just to fulfill the goal of their
King, Queen, President, or whatever leadership they have.
So, not much has changed; it only became more 'modernized', but, still as
murderous as centuries ago.
Edward. |
Kiwilove
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 30, 2012 - 04:28 pm: |
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I did read a lot about the Authurian legends in my late teens - and I never came across anything that is along the lines of what the Plejarens have said about King Arthur and that particular account. So, how is the public going to be convinced that the Plejaren story, is the true account?
In the Billy Meier accounts - there is not the case of the Plejarens being able to offer proof/evidence for the public - and we do demand proof all the time, for anything to believe in - so that we can differentiate truth, from that of fantasy and imagination, mis-representations and so forth. Nor are they interested in providing it.
The stories of Atlantis and Mu are so far back in time - that nothing much remains from back then? We do hear of some accounts of giant skeletons found, but we lack the concrete proof of this. There are of course, such finds mentioned in America which hint towards this. That early man mated with giants - and are we the offspring from that? This is entirely different from Darwin's idea of evolution, and that of Christian's creation?
Harvey |
Damian_jones
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 01-2012
| | Posted on Friday, March 30, 2012 - 08:42 pm: |
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Hello harvey, here is supposedly a prophecy from merlin which mention the pleiades, far from being proof never the less I thought this was interesting.
"The tail of Scorpio shall produce lightning and Cancer quarrel with the Sun. Virgo shall mount upon the back of Sagittarius and darken her virgin flowers. The chariot of the Moon shall disorder the zodiac and the Pleiades break forth into weeping. No offices of Janus shall hereafter return, but his gate being shut shall lie hid in the chinks of Ariadne. The seas shall rise up in the twinkling of an eye and the dust of the ancients shall be restored. The winds shall fight together with a dreadful blast and their sound shall reach the stars.
On a different topic I found this video on utube, seems like a plejaren ship to me, apologies if this has already been posted"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N-hZOyuOd8 |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 762
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 02, 2012 - 05:14 pm: |
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Hi Harvey ;
I have made a concerted effort , you might say , to bring the story to friends and contemporaries in my area , and especially the ones who are personally invested in the Avalon lore , do not take to it . I can say that for the most part ,the public will not be convinced . The same that the mission itself will not be widely accepted for another 800 years yet .
Salome , Mark |
Darren
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Post Number: 308
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 02, 2012 - 08:57 pm: |
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"mission itself will not be widely accepted for another 800 years"
Hi Mark,
I thought it was more like in 800 years humanity being receptable to hearing the Meier material, then it being widely accepted. |
Curlymoses
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 02, 2012 - 10:42 pm: |
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There is a contest to "Become An Infowars.com Reporter" via youtube video entry. I think it's a good opportunity for citizen journalists to research, present, and analyze any number of relevant Meier/FIGU topics to an alternative media / activist audience interested in exposing corruption and promoting truth. I want to create and enter such a video, but may not have the time and resources to do so. I'm encouraging any ambitious, curious, creative types familiar with the Meier information to consider making a video report about some aspect(s) of it. 1 man's and 1 woman's video report will be chosen to split $10,000 and interview for a reporter job (if interested). My intent is to strive for the journalistic attention that the Meier information deserves. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXSZ1F-RWyM
(Message edited by scott on April 03, 2012) |
Kiwilove
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2012 - 02:35 pm: |
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Hi Mark,
Yes - sadly in this world wide mass media of today - so called truth is rarely seen at all.
I am of the opinion that telling the truth - brings you no profit, but when people tell lies (or their so-called version of truth), then they can profit from that. You can call this rebranding, under your own name.
We should know by now - that hollywood is not truth in any way, nor reality. That their presentation is very often not a true account. And that movies are not 'real'.
And one always have to be careful with documentaries - whether their presentations are authentic? or not...
One thing I have been thinking lately about - are the long term effects of oil mining - whereby millions of barrels of oil are extracted from particular regions. What happens when you extract so much mass away? Would you not assume that this will cause a destabilisation of the region? Weakening it? That scientists do not even ask this question, or try answering - shows they are ignorant of such consequences. What takes the place of the oil extracted? That no one bothers to consider 'cause and effect' and that you simply do not get something from nothing - and that there are consequences for every action taken..
The worse term effects, as cited by the Plejarens, is that earthquakes will be more devastating than ever before - and that later generations will see this happening - but will oil extraction be seen as the culprit?
Harvey |
Bianca
Member
Post Number: 96
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 05:59 am: |
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I have been exploring the archives of Qs and As to Billy. What an educational experience this has been!
…Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All.
OM
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Votan
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2012 - 09:48 pm: |
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Has anybody watched U tube about civilizations living inside earth.
Does Mr Meier know anything about them.
joe
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 12
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2012 - 01:41 pm: |
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Hi Scott
Does anybody really knows what actually happened at Tunguska. I feel that Tesla had a lot to do with his particle accelerator. Has anybody asked Billy.
joe
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Edward
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Post Number: 2390
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2012 - 09:31 am: |
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Hi Votan....
Welcome to the FIGU board!
This subject should not be here, but in conjunction with Scott's and your
posting....
The Bardens were infected with sexual transmitted diseases...if I remember it
correctly. They went on a Prostitution trek, so to speak. The infections had
great affect on their bodies, which they did not expect. And so, had to 'self
destruct' the(ir) ship and themselves. [Before this all happen, they were
already prohibited to enter Earth's atmosphere; but, they threw the warning
in the wind, so to speak....; and learned the hard way! With their lives....]
If you do a Search with the Search Engine you will know the details; it was
discussed here, in the past....
Pleasant Studying....
Edward. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 684
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2012 - 06:34 am: |
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Hi Votan,
The occupants constructed a crude nuclear bomb, lifted their craft some hundreds of meters into the air which is as far as it would go then detonated the device. This is why the surrounding area had and still has such high radiation levels and the trees appear to have been toppled by a classic nuclear explosion .... they were.
Tesla had nothing to do with it.
For the craft occupants it was the only solution .... mass suicide to prevent the on board infection from spreading then consuming everyone left alive when they realized no help or rescue was possible. They didn't want the craft to remain intact to be possibly found by humans or others, certainly not with a crew full of dead occupants and infectious disease in the air.
It's explained in a contact report though i dont recall which one.
Cheers.
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Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 879
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2012 - 09:41 am: |
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Edward,
Can you please provide a reference in the FIGU material where you have read this? I have looked it up and I can't find that they went on a 'prostitution' trek.
This is what I found:
68. The terrestrial ideologies, and actual sects and religions in particular, as well as the terrestrial power-political machinations, have become a danger which spreads out slowly and fatally.
69. Nicht genug damit, dass weltenraumfahrende Rassen durch den irdisch-ideologischen und religiösen Wahnsinn bereits drei ihrer Heimatplaneten in Aufruhr versetzt haben und durch aussenstehende Kräfte wieder unter Kontrolle gebracht werden mussten, treibt der Erdenmensch auch seine Welt und das ganze Sonnensystem in die gefährliche Nähe des Verderbens.
69. Were it not enough that space-faring races, through the terrestrial ideological and religious insanity, already shifted three of their homeland planets into uproar, which then had to be brought back under control by outside powers, the Earth human also drives his world and the entire solar system dangerously close to destruction.
70. Drei der Raumfahrt fähige Rassen aus fernen Galaxien dieses Universums entsandten vor weniger als 1130 Erdenjahren ihre Expeditionsschiffe und stiessen zur Erde vor.
70. Less than 1130 Earth years ago, three races capable of space travel, from far galaxies of this universe, dispatched their expedition ships, and advanced to the Earth.
71. Mit kleinen Aufklärern erkundeten sie diese Welt und traten auch in Kontakt mit priesterlichen Erdenmenschen, heimlich und unerkannt, um nicht Schrecken und Angst zu verbreiten.
71. They explored this world with small scout craft, and also made contact with priestly Earth humans, secretly and unrecognised, in order not to spread terror and angst.
72. Von den Erdenmenschen hörten und lernten sie den Wahnsinn ihrer Ideologien und Religionen und glaubten sich plötzlich in ihrer Schöpfungsphilosophie und in ihrer Bewusstseins- und Geistesevolution irregeleitet und benachteiligt.
72. They heard and learned from the Earth humans the insanity of their ideologies and religions and suddenly they believed themselves to be disadvantaged and falsely led in their own philosophy of Creation and in their own evolution of consciousness and spirit.
73. Als bewusstseinsmässig und geistig noch weit unterentwickelte Lebensform vermochte der Erdenmensch diese fremden Lebensformen in Zweifel zu stürzen und Zwist unter sie zu säen.
73. As a life form still very spiritually underdeveloped and underdeveloped in consciousness, the Earth humans were able to throw these foreign life forms into doubt, and to sow discord among them.
74. Doch war denn das ein Wunder, wenn bedacht wird, dass sehr hoch entwickelte Lebensformen aus fremden Galaxien die Erde besuchen und hier plötzlich davon unterrichtet werden, dass sie als sehr weit entwickelte Rasse von der Schöpfung benachteiligt worden sein sollen, weil sich angeblich die Schöpfung einer noch sehr unterentwickelten Rasse persönlich kundgetan und sie selbst als viel höhere Lebensform übergangen haben soll.
74. Yet, was that any wonder then, if it is considered that very highly developed life forms from foreign galaxies visit the Earth, and here suddenly are instructed that they, as a race which has developed very far, are to have been disadvantaged by Creation, because, allegedly, Creation personally made Itself known to a still very underdeveloped race, and they themselves, as a much higher life form, were passed over.
75. Wo war denn hier die Schuld zu finden, dass die Schöpfung einen eingeborenen Sohn schuf und auf die Erde zu einem armen unterentwickelten Volke versetzte und diesen eingeborenen Sohn nicht zu den viel höher entwickelten Lebensformen kreierte?
75. Where was the blame to be found here, that Creation created its only begotten son, and transferred him to Earth to a poor, underdeveloped people, and did not create this only begotten son for the much higher developed life forms?
76. Also wurden diese Wahnsinnsfakten auf den drei fernen Welten verbreitet und den Rassen kundgetan, die bis anhin seit Jahrtausenden in Frieden und Liebe und in völliger Harmonie mit allen Lebensformen und untereinander gelebt hatten.
76. Thus this insane information was spread on three distant worlds, and announced to the races, which had, for thousands of years, lived in peace, love and in complete harmony among themselves, and with all forms of life.
77. Der Wahnsinn der irdischen Religionen wurde von Wissenschaftlern aufgegriffen und neuerliche Expeditionen zur Erde gesandt, um in jahrelanger Arbeit alle erforderlichen religiösen Fakten zu erforschen.
77. The insanity of the terrestrial religions was taken up by scientists, and further expeditions were sent to Earth in order to work for years to investigate all required religious facts.
78. Nach der Rükkehr dieser Expeditionen wurde nach genauen Abklärungen beschlossen, alle Völker nach der irdischen Christenreligion zu belehren, und zwar in alle belangen.
78. After the return of these expeditions, it was concluded, after exact clarifications, that all peoples would be instructed according to the the terrestrial Christian religion, and indeed, in all matters.
79. Dies war ein tödlicher Fehler, denn innerhalb von nur 11 Jahren wandelte sich die friedvolle und bisher nur nach den Schöpfungsgesetzen lebende Menschheit der einen fernen Welt zum glaubensmässig christlichen Ebenbild des Erdenmenschen.
79. This was a fatal error, because, within only eleven years, this peaceful humankind from a distant planet, having previously lived only by the creational laws, changed itself into the faith-based, Christian image of the Earth human.
80. Erst entstanden Kampf und Unfrieden in engsten Kreisen, dann weitete sich aber alles sehr schnell aus, und es kam zu öffentlichen Unruhen.
80. At first, fights and discord originated only in the narrowest circles, then, however, everything expanded very quickly, and it came to public unrest.
81. Bald schon mordeten sich die Lebensformen gegenseitig, bis alles zu einem bösartigen weltweiten Krieg ausartete.
81. Already the life forms soon murdered each other, until everything degenerated into a malicious worldwide war.
82. Es erfolgten letztendlich Übergriffe auf die beiden anderen Welten, wovon die eine dann zerstört wurde.
82. Finally encroachments into the two other worlds resulted, one of which was then destroyed.
83. Darauf aufmerksam geworden, griffen endlich andere Raumfahrer-Rassen ein und beendeten gewaltsam den tödlichen Zwist, der sich bereits langsam ins ganze Sonnensystem hinaustrug.
83. Different space-faring races became attentive to that, and finally intervened, and forcefully terminated the deadly discord, which had already slowly carried itself into the entire solar system.
84. Die durch die Expeditionen hergebrachten irdischen Religionen und das die Vernichtung auslösende Christentum wurden jeglicher Lebensform strengstens untersagt.
84. The terrestrial religions, brought there through the expeditions, and the destruction-releasing Christianity, were strictly forbidden to any life forms.
85. Alles bestehende religiöse Material wurde vernichtet und die alte Form des Lebens wurde wieder zum obersten Gesetz.
85. All existing religious material was destroyed and the old way of life again became the highest law.
86. Jeglicher Vorstoss und jeglicher weitere Besuch der Erde wurden verboten, und es wurde gar die Bestimmung erlassen, dass wenn sich einmal unverhofft ein Schiff auf die Erde verirren sollte, und keine Fortkommensmöglichkeit mehr finden sollte, sich die ganze Besatzung mit dem Schiff zusammen total zu eliminieren habe.
86. Any advance, and any further visit to the Earth was forbidden, and a decree was even issued that, if, unexpectedly, a ship should stray onto Earth, and no further possibilities of progress could be found, the entire crew, together with their ship, must totally eliminate itself.
87. Dies geschah denn auch tatsächlich bald nach Erlass dieser Bestimmung, als ein sich noch im irdischen Raume befindliches Grossraumschiff sich nicht mehr von der Erde zu befreien vermochte, wo es während mehreren Monaten mit schweren technischen Schäden in dem Lande versteckt gelegen hatte, das ihr Russland nennt.
87. This actually also then soon happened according to the decree of this regulation, when a huge space ship, still in the terrestrial area, was not able to free itself anymore from Earth, where it had lain hidden for several months with severe technical damage, in the country which you call Russia.
88. Das Schiff vermochte sich nur noch wenige hundert Meter hochzuarbeiten und sank dann wieder ab.
88. The ship was able to lift itself up only a few hundred meters and then sank down again.
89. Der Bestimmung gemäss, dass sich keine Raumschiffe usw. der Erde mehr nähern durften, war so auch jede Hilfeleistung unmöglich.
89. In accordance with the regulation that no spaceships, and so forth, were allowed to approach the earth anymore, all outside assistance was also impossible.
90. Auf der Erde stationierten anderweitigen Rassen aus dem Weltenraum wurde andererseits untersagt, dem havarierten Schiff Hilfe zu bringen, weil unter der Besatzung eine irdische Seuche ausgebrochen war, die für diese Lebensform sehr gefährlich war.
90. Other races from outer space, stationed on the earth, were, on the other hand, forbidden to bring the damaged ship assistance because, among the crew, a terrestrial epidemic had broken out which was very dangerous for this life form.
91. Im Wissen, dass ihrer keinerlei Hilfe mehr harrte, konstruierten sie eine gewaltige Bombe aus Grundsteinen des Lebens, das ihr Atom nennt, zwangen das Schiff soweit wie möglich in den Himmel hinauf und liessen es dann einfach abstürzen.
91. In the knowledge that they could anticipate no more help at all, they designed an enormous bomb from the foundation-stones of life, that you call atoms, forced the ship as far as possible up into the sky, and then let it simply fall.
92. Wie ein gewaltiger Komet stürzte es zur Erde nieder, und ehe es auf die Erde aufprallen konnte, wurde in wenigen hundert Metern Höhe die Atombombe gezündet.
92. Like an enormous comet it fell towards the earth, and before it could strike the earth, at a few hundred meters height, the atomic bomb was ignited.
93. Eine gewaltige Explosion zerriss das Schiff und die Besatzung, verwandelte alles in Staub und zerstörte die Landschaft.
93. An enormous explosion tore up the ship and the crew, turned everything to dust and destroyed the landscape.
94. Von allem blieb nur ein riesenhafter Krater zurück, der irrtümlich von euren Wissenschaftlern als Meteorkrater bezeichnet wird.
94. From everything only a giant crater remained, which is erroneously called a meteor crater by your scientists.
95. Mehr als 4300 Lebensformen ausserirdischen Ursprungs wurden bei dieser gigantischen Zerstörung vernichtet, die nur zurückzuführen ist auf den irdischen Christuskult, denn der eigentliche Grund dieser Zerstörung war der Wahnsinn dieser irdischen Religion.
95. More than 4,300 life forms of extraterrestrial origin were destroyed during this gigantic destruction, which only leads back to the terrestrial Christian cult, because the actual reason for this destruction was the insanity of this terrestrial religion.
Thanks to futureofmankind for this information.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Scott
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Post Number: 2256
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2012 - 05:51 pm: |
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Hawaiian,
The Government of the Barden (Tunguska incident) forbid the Plejarens and other ET races on the planet at the time to interfere with the damaged ship of the Barden and their infected crew.
"Apart from that, other extraterrestrials were stationed on the Earth - namely us and our confederates - who were prohibited, by the government of the home world, from helping the space travelers. Consequently we had to hold ourselves to our directives."
Ausserdem wurde auf der Erde stationierten anderen Ausserirdischen - nämlich uns und unseren Föderierten - durch die Regierung der Heimatwelt der Raumfahrer untersagt, irgendwelche Hilfe zu leisten, folglich wir uns an unsere Direktiven halten mussten.
So you see it appears the Plejarens had the intention of helping, but were not allowed.
Scott |
Redhalls
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2012
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2012 - 10:36 am: |
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Hi,
I think I find a page that talks about the 'prostitution'...
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/meier/gaiaguys/meierb59.htm
"So, for several months, the space ship lay with grave technical damage hidden in the Tunguska region whereby a larger number of space travelers mixed, unrecognized, among the Earth humans, far from the hiding place, and sexually engaged with them which resulted in many of them becoming sick with syphilis and, with the return to their space ship, also infecting many others with it."
Karl |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 523
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2012 - 10:00 am: |
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> There's info here: http://theyfly.com/Tunguska1.htm |
Edward
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Post Number: 2392
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2012 - 04:02 am: |
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Hi All....
Forgot to mention Ramirez...
He hit it on tha nail, also....
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2393
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2012 - 03:58 am: |
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Hi Jacob, Karl, Michael and all...
Michael hit it on the nail, as well as Karl.
Thank you both for the reference.
I think someone once mentioned it was Prostitute related. With the knowledge
they just did not make contact with the common people/folk in that region for
their sexual escapades. That seemed logical...at the time(?).
It was discussed at the previous PAR site, also, in details; so I may have
picked it up there?
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2395
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2012 - 04:24 am: |
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Hi All....
BTW: I think it was discussed, that the Bardens could have stayed in space
instead of landing on Earth as they did when they knew it was prohibited;
especially with their huge ship with technical problems. Than, the out-come
would have been perhaps more positive.....(?) Obtaining help more in a
logical manner from...their own people or others, out there...whom could help
them without any restrictions, etc....
Edward. |
Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 765
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 11:31 pm: |
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So , it can be said that the ship exploded with a mighty thunder-clap . |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 685
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 09:08 am: |
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Hmm, that story concerning wandering about the wastes of Siberia looking for good time girls seems a bit far fetched.
Siberia is a wild desolate place with very few inhabitants overall and there were less a hundred years ago. Has anyone looked at a map ..... how far are the nearest towns to Tunguska ?
In Siberia how did the craft occupants manage to get far from the hiding place ?
Syphilis spreads via intimate contact or through contamination via body fluids so unless the 2300 craft occupants were engaged in a whole load of shennanigans among themselves that's somewhat suspect also.
So how was the disease spreading ? An airborne infection makes more sense .... a virus the ship's air filtration system couldn't cope with maybe.
However for a space faring race you'd think antibiotics would be in the medical cabinet or something along those lines. That's a huge number of persons crammed into a confined area.
In the link: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/meier/gaiaguys/meierb59.htm
the Bardan home world is quoted as being 400 million light years distant ..... a long way from home without effective medical facilities on board a very likely huge craft ..... for that many occupants it must have been substantial.
If you were the ship's commander would you allow your crew to go wandering about the desolate wastes of Siberia searching for earth humans to have some wild parties with ?
Cheers.
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Matthew
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 12:35 pm: |
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Hi Ramirez - I think the reference to the Bardan being of Mongoloid appearance fits perfectly well with their choice of pit-stop as in that area of Siberia there were and are many Mongolized nomadic tribes. Could the Mongols be related through common distant ancestry to the Bardan and if so it would have been easy for the Bardan to mingle with the people in that region. They were probably looking for materials to repair their ship and for food or medicines, etc. I doubt they planned to be gone long enough from their home world to warrant taking huge supplies and as they were not planning to visit any planet like Earth they would not have medicines to combat every planet's viruses and pathogens, etc. The ability to create these could have been destroyed with the ship's mechanical breakdown. These ships can travel vast distances in a short space of time even 400 million light years in hours. As the Barden would not have looked out of place, it is logical to think that they would have ventured out, met with tribal people's and travelled to cities with them and into people's homes and probably into some beds. So some would have ventured out in order to survive and then the effect of being amongst sex-mad barbaric Urda humans would come into play & madness ensued as happened when they mingled previously and started to believe in all the God-tripe which spread chaos back on their own home worlds. They sound like they were already getting a bit lost in their own spiritual understanding if they believed the Jesus stuff so sleeping with Urda humans is another example of them being unprepared for the effects of mixing with us. |
Kiwilove
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 03:36 pm: |
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Some comments - on the one hand it seems difficult to believe that an intelligent race, would fall for the religious delusion of Christianity.
It is the same today for people growing up - everyone has to make up their mind, whether this or that (or all) religion(s) are merely delusions (and misintrepretations, etc) or to truly believe in what they say...
You would think - that if they encountered other races an worlds/etc etc - that what is typical here on this Earth, must surely be present elsewhere too?
That people cheat/lie/steal/etc under their perfectly presentable outside selves. Earth can't be the only world this is done.
Harvey |
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