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Calenwath
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 04-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 04:59 am: | 
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I've never watched this movie Contact, from 1997 starring Jodie Foster, Matthew McConnahey, I know thats not right, sorry for the name butchery. The P's have said that many human beings here on this planet are receiving impulses on a sub-conscious level. I found it very interesting that the contact they receive from space emanates from the Vega star system. As most of us know the ancient Vegan and Lyran races are two races that share our and the P's history. Pleasant studying.
Shane |
Corey
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Post Number: 133
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 02:58 pm: |
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Stokely said "A loss of technology maybe would reset the spiritual clock in the human being."
Actually Ptaah said criminality would increase.
Think about it if criminals wanted to rape someone (that victim could be your mother, daughter, girlfriend, or wife) or steal whatever they wanted whose going to stop them there will be no police. Armed gangs could take over entire urban areas. There will be no food or water (it takes electricity to make water) so lots of people will be starving to death and dying of thirst. No more cell phones because the satellites will be in "safe mode", no more computers and internet, no more gas, no more nourishment, no more authorities of any kind to enforce laws, no more television to alert the population to what is going on in the darkened areas, no more mail system, no more employment for those affected, no more banks, financial systems and stock markets will crash failing entire countries, no more heat (it's supposed to start early 2013 winter in some areas) so some people will freeze to death depending on their climate environment, no more transport of clothing or grain or anything else international or national, no more airports or flights, no more hospitals and medical records, no more stores, shops, and buisinesses, no more technical advances (including countries that are building futuristic space ships similiar to beamships such as the United States, China, England, and Russia), no more space programs, over 400 possible Chernobyls because of uncertainty over nuclear power still operating, when your in trouble there will be no calling the police or other first and emergency responders, because phones won't work, their cars will be out of gas and their electronic equipment won't work. No more school for the children, and college for the adults and other places of learning. No more militaries or wars except for infantry but communication and transportation will be knocked out thankfully, and I know the US militaries submarines still use the old school tube style fuses that can withstand a nuclear blast EMP so maybe the subs will still work. No more libraries, and no more FIGU forums and distribution of Billy's books or the Geisteslehre because as I stated the postal service will be knocked out (get your books now- just remember there will be no online German dictionaries).
It could take years to bring everything back online as it takes 1 to 3 years to get the replacement transformers that will be knocked out and that is considering today's timeline when electricity is normal. And when everything is back online there will still be massive confusion, crime, prostitution, unemployment, hunger, thirst, disease, wars, radiation from melted down nuclear power plants, civil wars and unrest, religions, potential wars and other conflicts worse then pre-grid knocked out times, and the list goes on.
The implications of the grid's being knocked out are frightening. So much so I don't see anything positive about it with the exception that most nuclear weapons shouldn't work. I for one am not looking forward to the recent future and it will take our scientists time afterwards to develop "solar flare friendly" grids, electronics etc once everything comes back online... plant your gardens and build your food and water stocks now. And maybe some camping equipment so you can still cook.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker.
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Darren
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Post Number: 313
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 04:37 pm: |
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That movie "Contact" starring Jodie Foster is STUPID, unlike the other "Contact" film featuring Billy Meier the real ET Contactee. |
Calenwath
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 04-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 06:53 pm: |
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Yes well, my only point was the plot from the movie says intelligent sentient, more evolved beings come from the Vegan star system. I honestly didnt care much for it beyond that small coincidence. |
Darren
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Post Number: 314
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 10:38 pm: |
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Calenwath, I was talking about the storyline of that Contact film being stupid. I didn't mean to sound like I was having a go at you in any way for mentioning that Contact film, if thats how it appeared. Actually I appreciated you putting that post in because looking back I never noticed that connection in the film with regards to the connection with us and the P's history in the Vega star system. |
Darren
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Post Number: 315
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 10:51 pm: |
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Forgot to say - based on the spiritual teachings that we know and learned from the Meier material we can say the storyline of that Contact film is nonsense and stupid. |
Cbp0009
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 04-2012
| | Posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 - 10:59 am: |
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READ; just released scientific info for Earth/ Meier related:
Just as a side note to begin with, which was also part of this publication I'm am about to quote, coincidentally, includes acpects of the movie contact. Seti, which uses the large Allen telescope array ( ie; as seen in contact) recently turned all of the array towards Lyra constellation. Seti is an obvious waste of time and $ but thought that was worth mentioning, its so far though, and the dicapation of radio waves over time/distance, just like the last 50 yrs they will find nothing. Interestingly enough, either Ptaah or Quetzal had said in the contact notes that a civilization lives only 5 light years away, they said they are rediculously overpopulated at 23 billion, and they have to come here for grains and so forth to feed everyone, so if they are that close and technologically advanced why have we not picked them up!? Back to the scientific info; Aphopis, up to there present calculations of earth scientists, which we know from Meier is wrong, calculated that it is 1 and 233,000 that it will hit earth in 2036. But in good news they have already started to develop solutions to do something about it, among them is considering blasting off an atomic bomb at a distance so to throw it off course with the supersonic blast winds. (Which the Plejaren suggested to Meier, even though there are many ways to do it). They are now beginning to conclude that the two moons that orbit Mars, Phobos and Diemos, were actually asteroids caught by Mars. Its no surprise Beam also said this some time back if I'm not mistaken in the contact notes also. Lastly, but not necessarily new news that they've found carbonaceous condrites, (classification of a type of meteorite) that contain up to 70 different types of amino acids, and even RNA and DNA, so its wonder that the so called smartest people on earth know that life undoubtedly permeates throughout the universe but won't make this a widely public announcement. Even something like that can plant a seed in peoples mind that its an obsurdity, and the height of human arrogance that we are alone in the universe. Just thought these few things were interesting and relevant. SALOME
Source was; world report and U.S. news magazine (special edition : Mysteries of space) |
Corey
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Post Number: 134
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 - 03:08 pm: |
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Cbp0009,
Billy warns against the dangers of the large SETI antenna's in Sonder Bulletin 44 (463rd contact) that they could attract hostile barbaric ET's that would war with us and they could be here in 40, 60, or 80 years time. Ptaah recommends that we pull them down to avoid the conflict.
The overpopulated civilization (Akart) that is only 5 light years away is no longer at 23 billion. They suffered a plague that was a direct result of their overpopulation and their population was decimated.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker.
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Calenwath
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 04-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 - 04:20 pm: |
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Right on Darren thank you for your clarification, no offense taken  and Cbp the planet you mention is Akart, and yes they had an overpopulation that is clearly a possibility here on Earth/Terra but I understand a planet-wide natural catastrophe wiped out quite a large number of people there on Akart. It may still be overpopulated, but not as badly. |
Kiwilove
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Post Number: 100
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 - 06:29 pm: |
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The basic premise behind "Contact" is rather old hat SF, something similiar to "This Island Earth" whereby intelligent aliens send a blueprint to have their device built...
SF movies coming from hollywood usually suffer from being produced for a mainstream audience - in which things are dumbed down somewhat.
We today - are of course, living in Science Fiction times - that we are using computers as part of our everyday life, is a testament to this.
But as the Plejarens have pointed out - we are still stuck in the mud, with various archaic ideas and beliefs - typically because politicians and religious authorities are not what they pretend to be. And 'pretend' is what they do. That so much around us, is on the same pretend basis (as much of our 'entertainment' is).
Being able to recognise the real from the unreal - and that which is true (and possible) - from the untrue/lies (and impossible) is a sign of real intelligence and awareness - and also understanding.
Harvey |
Cbp0009
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 04-2012
| | Posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 - 07:02 pm: |
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Makes perfect sense to me, I don't know how they could even sustain a pop that could even get up that high without a plague or some sort of large catastrophe. My post was that I was surprised that being so close to them that we have not picked up anything from them. Also didn't they have a space station somewhere in between, since they don't have interstellar technology yet. Which I presume they would have to send signals back to their home planet. I completely agree that its ignorant to just send shit out there like that, u mite find something u didn't want to find! And I absolutely don't have any ego about information, please put the exact info up if I miss something. SALOME |
Darren
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Post Number: 316
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 - 07:17 pm: |
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Calenwath, thats ok, I'm glad!
btw, in my previous post I was referring to the spiritual aspect of that films storyline as being nonsense/stupid. |
Matt
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Post Number: 240
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2012 - 01:27 am: |
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If I remember correctly at the end of that film Jodie Foster met up with her dead dad with the use of that giant machine, and it was not a time travel trip into the past. The film gave the impression that people and their present personality don't die when they die but live on in another place, somewhat similar to some religions. |
Calenwath
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 04-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2012 - 04:53 am: |
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Yeah the premise of the film Contact in the end suggests the existance of "higher power", like when Jodie Foster's character uses the machine that Harvey talks about, she meets her long dead father on this planet in the Vega star system, absolute rubbish.
Very good tie-in point about the SETI project. Even Stephen Hawking, one of our most intelligent human minds on this planet, warned that contacting ET's may not have the desired result we intend.
Akart only five light years away and we remain clueless of its existance. They do posess trans-planetary spacecraft, so tech-wise we are wayyyy behind. I would'nt want to be found by the Terran human race either with our religious dogmas, and evil influences slowing down/stopping the spirit from learning the truth.
Peace in Wisdom
Shane |
Kiwilove
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Post Number: 101
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2012 - 05:16 pm: |
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There seems to be an overwhelming desire for the majority to believe in a higher power. And while 'the Creation' is not known about for the masses - they more or less buy into a distorted God concept. As too the desire for justice and purpose for their life (lives). Also they want to reunite with their loved ones - that have already passed over to the other side.
To be told the bland truth - that their personality simply does not survive - that a new personality is created for their new reincarnated life - is not exactly what they were hoping for. Same too - for no reunion in the spirit world between lives?
An another note - Revelation of the Pyramids is an intriguing movie length documentary - while not exactly along the lines of the Plejaren information - at least it brings into question conventional explanations about the pyramids.
I find it hard to accept that the Abydos glyphs of what appears to be modern day helicopters, etc - are merely the result of the outer fascade falling off, and is the result of two fascades merging into those images.
Perhaps if they could show the two separate glyphs, and their intermingling - then this can be a convincing explanation. Off hand it seems like astronomical odds of this producing such distinct and clear profiles.
Harvey |
Johnnybalmain
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 07:15 pm: |
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Hi all,
As far as I understand that part of the movie Contact where she meets her father. What happens is that the ET explains that he has taken on her fathers appearance rather than his own true appearance so as it would be easier to converse with her. The et sourced this info from her mind.
Interesting info about Akart. When did this become news and by whom.
Peace John |
Edward
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Post Number: 2407
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 01:02 am: |
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Hi Corey....and ALL...
Right you are Corey!
Our Global Overpopulation...will be the death of us!
World leaders do not give a hoot about our Global Overpopulation.
And we will, just go in the direction of Akart.
Not to forget, the Pioneer space probes which carried a gold-anodized
aluminum plaque, with our Earth human data on it, etc., which Billy and the
Plejarans also said is a good invitation for violent ETs to come to our
planet and rule over us.
OHHHHH....What have we been dumb...again....
Edward. |
Corey
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 08:40 am: |
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Johnny,
Moderator Scott released the info about Akart's plaque some time ago here on the forums.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker.
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 09:51 am: |
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Stokley
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 06:33 pm: |
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Hello All....
I listen to a radio program here in the United States called Coast to Coast. Recently they spoke of the Sasquatch or "Bigfoot" as most know it. I recall that the Plejarans stated that these beings were another species of human.
My question is regarding spiritual evolution. It would seem to me that we modern humans in this time of technology and spiritual stagnation rely too much on the conveniences that technology has brought us. We disregard the spiritual aspect of the Universe and the Truth of Creation itself.
Now, to my point and question for Billy or whoever can answer. These beings that we call Sasquatch live in harmony with nature and it would seem to me they would actually be more spiritual beings due to that fact alone. I would also assume that they would not be confused by false beliefs, religions, and technology that has so corrupted the minds of the majority of humans on this planet.
So my question is "Are these beings more spiritual minded in their lives? I do believe they are very intelligent. I would assume they are due to the fact that they can stay hidden from so many other human beings that would, more than likely, kill them if the chance presented itself. We seem to fear that which we do not understand.
Thank You
Rob |
Edward
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Post Number: 2411
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 01:07 am: |
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Hi Stokley....
I enjoyed - In Search for Sasquatch -, I think was the title on Discovery,
some time ago.
Presenting the encounters of people with the Sasquatch from even a close
distance of a couple of yards! That, is what you call a - close encounter of
the third kind -!
Seeing that the Sasquatch is a coupling of 2 early species, early humans and
an animal-like creature, they can perhaps 'inherit' certain qualities from
BOTH lineages, I would think. It all comes down to: in WHAT direction they
would evolve(, further). In the direction of the human qualities or more in
the direction of the animal-like?
The creatures evolving in the direction of the humans would indeed to some
point evolve in a more Spiritual fashion than that of the animal-like
creatures. So, I think you can draw a conclusion here from, no?
Billy, did mention that they too evolved in their own directions, as result,
of the many different species of Bigfoot, Sasquatch, etc, whatever the name
they posses, exist.
Thus, a certain lineage of them can have human qualities with human-like
Intuitions(; accumulating human-like Spiritual traits and adapting this to
their daily life/existence), and some with animal-like Instincts(;
accumulating the animal-like traits...which is the opposite of the previous
mentioned).
Thus/But, BOTH can still Evolve, it be human-like or animal-like. Of course,
the one with the human qualities comes much closer to the HUMAN, self.
Thus, their Evolution Distinction, does play part...here.
Possibly the above mentioned will give you some ideas...to your question?
Edward. |
Darren
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Post Number: 317
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 03:42 am: |
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Hi Rob, I think the bigfoot species of ape don't have a consciousness like we have. They are still animal like (instinctual driven). |
Edward
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Post Number: 2412
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 10:03 pm: |
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Hi Rob and Darren....
It just occurred to me, that it is mentioned in the FIGU materials, that the
Animal Kingdom DO live in accordance to the Laws of Nature/Creation...and
thus, we can...acknowledge, that they DO manifest themselves within the
framework of Creational Spiritual.
My previous posting was referring more to them experiencing it Consciously/
Directly or Unconsciously/Indirectly. And that the human experiencing it more
Consciously, due to his THINKING ability/quality, etc.
Edward. |
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