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    Matthew Member Post Number: 42 Registered: 03-2011 |
Hi Marbar, Re: Married couples having children I'm sure that Christian was making reference to the spiritual teachings which state that after a period of 3 years of living together in married harmony then the conditions are right for married couple to have offspring. But as such Christian would also support the immediate 7-year birth stop that must come first as recommended by the spiritual teachings. Try promoting that idea and you will see that it is better to give people the whole truth in regards to the spiritual teachings around childbirth than try to break it down in the hope that it may get a chance to get support from the public. Achieving one aspect of the teachings whilst ignoring all other aspects of the truth has little to no chance of being either successful in terms of what you hope to achieve as it does being implemented at this time. All we can do is implement the teachings ourselves as they are (not watered down or part versions) into our lives first before even beginning to tell others how to live. That would then at least mean that some humans on Earth are living by the teachings, rather than no-one living by them but just taking bits of them to suit themselves. Today the world is not ready to implement the teachings around childbirth because of wrong thinking in regards to this. Watering down the message so that only married couples can have kids does not take into account that MANY marriages these days are doomed to fail from the outset and that people marry for completely the wrong reasons even such that your idea would keep a couple together to just have children and then separate after this has been achieved as there is nothing else to the marriage. Your fragmentation then loses the fundamental message of the spiritual teachings which is about love creating a loving home for our descendents. Billy, the Plejaren, FIGU and Christian all support the idea of immediate birth stop for at least 7 years before even beginning to implement any kind of strong ruling around what circumstances should be there for people to have children. I think it's all about taking personal responsibility in response to the teachings and trying our best each day to live according to them (which I know I have failed to do many times myself) but that I hope to learn from and grow in wisdom so that I evolve myself from ignorance. Salome, Matthew | ||
Treason New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2012 |
Dear all, As I read more and more of Contact Notes I am getting more doubtful of Billy Meier. According to Contact REport 182, AIDS "was caused by the sodomitic, degenerate unnaturalness of homosexual and bisexual men, who got together and pursued sexual machinations with animals; thus, they gave themselves over to sodomy" HOWEVER, my belief is that AIDS was genetically engineered to maliciously solve world overpopulation issue. The AIDS came from fusing sheep visna virus and bovine leukemia, indeed even PUBMED article below says HIV is recombinant of both viruses. http://healingtools.tripod.com/who_africa.html http://rense.com/general76/vis.htm http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8289690 What are you thoughts? | ||
Jokoveltman Member Post Number: 90 Registered: 11-2009 |
I think a) an engineered disease - for whatever purposes - does not contradict what Billy said; and b) that's an illogical way to go about reducing world population, even if you're thoroughly evil, because it's simply not possible with AIDS: you can get the disease but still have kids. This is vividly demonstrated by the continuing population growth of our planet - most of which is in Africa, which is also where the highest incidence of AIDS is found. Cheers, Timothy | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 135 Registered: 03-2007 |
Treason what's the reason you decide to doubt Billy Meier in this season? Is it because you have found other websites that are more in line with your beliefs? Who's behind this conspiracy of yours and how do they protect themselves from being infected? Do your beliefs really make any sense? Do you also believe in chemtrails and shape shifting reptilians? Is so you forgot to post Icke's website. Doubt is good as long as what you're doubting has been thourouly researched and you put your common sense to good use. These are my thoughts. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 550 Registered: 07-2009 |
> You said that it's your belief and you apparently base it on a few internet links. Try looking at the Corroboration section of www.theyfly.com, where you'll find documented evidence of Meier's accuracy, which requires no belief. It doesn't mean that he's right on this…only that his track record is worth comparing agianst other sources. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 630 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi(gh) Treason,  I always thought the degenerate bestiality was the origin and then once certain western powers became aware of that they developed the rest (your "HOWEVER"). Perhaps due to his 21 assassination attempts, Billy refrains from talking about the HOWEVER, after all, that information has been put out there by others; and he was asked and answered about the actual origin rather than the specific processes of development and/or dissemination thereafter. There have been times when Billy and the Plejaren have had to play it safe and, if you'll excuse the pun, beat about the bush, rather than open a whole can of life-threatening worms. Chris Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either. | ||
Treason New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2012 |
Just to clarify, I dont like being deceived. That is why when I see something that contrasts with my views I try to find about both sides of story. I just came here to hear Billy's side, thanks for the links Afterall, Billy seems to imply that truth is always logical. I will be weighing evidence and see... | ||
Treason New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 08-2012 |
When did Meier first publish his contact notes or put them online btw? | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 235 Registered: 12-2009 |
Treason, Out of the 11 blocks, I own the first 3. Block 1 was published in 2002, Block 2 was 2003 and so on. There were the Semjase blocks that were published earlier, as well as some earlier versions of contact notes, but I don't own them so I can't tell you when they were published. Wendell Stevens started publishing his books in the 1980's. Salome Corey OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 242 Registered: 12-2009 |
http://ca.figu.org/Q___A_-_Overpopulation.html#Q&A_Overpopulation Hi all, A summary of questions to Billy about overpopulation. Compiled by FIGU Canada Landesgruppe. Salome Corey OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 244 Registered: 12-2009 |
http://grist.org/population/melinda-gates-wants-family-planning-back-on-the-global-agenda/ Melinda Gates fight against overpopulation, with 25 min video. Some of her information is skewed, for instance she seems to think birth rates are low enough in industrialized countries, I disagree. But it least it's a start, and she's pushing for contraception in Sub Saharan Africa and Southeast Asia, and she agrees having smaller families is better for the children. She also says rich and poor governments alike need to make contraception a global priority so the tens of millions of families that don't have access to contraception can get access which is a good beginning. She also stated that science is wrong when it says we will just have 9 or 10 billion people then stop because families are getting smaller naturally which is also true. Salome Corey OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker. | ||
Rintintin Member Post Number: 27 Registered: 04-2012 |
Monsanto is doing a wonderful job in lowering global overpopulation. All mice fed with transgenic corn are developing terrible nasty cancers. Russia just banned the importation of products from zionist Rokefelers's company Monsanto, and France is conducting studies to ban it too. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 760 Registered: 06-2008 |
Recent article about overpopulation. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-world-in-2050-a-civil-perspective-grim-forecasts-due-to-rising-population-amid-diminishing-resources/ Cheers. | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 326 Registered: 01-2009 |
Salome all Something which is happening in england and has been happening for sometime now it that the quantity of food in packets has got less, for the same price. For example 1kg packet has now become 750g packet. A way of increasing food supplies by selling less in packets or a money making scam. I think both, killing 2 birds with one stone. Also the quality of food is, in my view, poor. For example when I was younger, 15 - 20 years ago onions used to be hot, burning the mouth, but I have not come across an onion for years that does this now. Potatoes and cabbage is less tastfull and some types potatoes are pretty poor when cooked. www.ufofacts.me.uk - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 283 Registered: 12-2009 |
Ramirez, I'm going to have to read that book now. Stephen Moore, That same thing has been happening in the US to for awhile, The package usually says "new and improved" or "larger size" but in reality it's smaller portions then it used to be. Sad really, all the big companies are doing it, what a scam it really is. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Sarah Member Post Number: 219 Registered: 10-2011 |
Uh, as far as I know thats entirely an economic thing and not an overpopulation thing. Can't we just be satisfied of overpopulation in and of itself being bad? Overpopulation is bad, that's good enough for me not to have kids. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 107 Registered: 05-2012 |
Sarah If only it was as simple as in your case then overpopulation wouldn't be a problem. Fact is that overpopulation is not a hole in the wall that you fix and it's not there anymore. We simply live in a rotten house (meaning -society) that is falling apart. This weak structure formed on delusions and stupidity causes not only such damage as overpopulation but many, many other burdens. Don't just stop on fixing the hole - rebuild the house from the strong foundations. Stopping on something being "bad" seems more of a child - parent conversation rather than intelligent reasoning to me. Nobody is asking for a sacrifice but for reason. Have kids - and please do indeed. Just follow the rules along with others and population will be back to normal in a century or so. If you're not familiar with the aforementioned "rules" being rather suggestions, you can find them here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/How_To_Create_Peace_And_Harmony_On_Earth Salome | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1488 Registered: 02-2000 |
The Unintended Consequences Of China’s One-child Policy. http://io9.com/5948528/the-unintended-consequences-of-chinas-one+child-policy My Website | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 285 Registered: 12-2009 |
I think if most people knew what lies ahead in the future, they would stop having kids. It's almost cruel to want to leave offspring in an overpopulated, desertified, food and water shortaged, war induced world after you've thought about it for awhile. The sad news is the more kids that are born the stupider the world gets because education is affected by overpopulation (and the younger parents become). Most people are deaf, dumb, and blind to the violations of the laws and recommendations of Creation and their effects. The average person could probably tell you the members of the Avengers or some other Hollywood garbage, but couldn't recite the negative effects of overpopulation because the truth is overlooked. That's a sad reflection of what the reality is on Earth, the masses blindly procreating while the effects go on swept under the rug. By 2050 or so, so many wells will have run dry and so many food sources will have disappeared people will have no choice but to notice. There will probably be conflicts over remaining short supply of food and water like today there are over oil. Whether people tie that to it's true cause of overpopulation will be another matter. If the atmosphere is fully broken by then it will probably just be attributed to global warming. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 286 Registered: 12-2009 |
Norm I agree with one of the comments made on that link: "And yet China has to restrict it's population growth to keep on target for it's improvements in standards of living. If they ease the One Child policy too soon, it will leads to millions of more mouths to feed and consumers draining resources in China and the Earth. I fully agree the infanticide of girls in China is utterly horrific and something must be done to stop it. But I don't think the One Child policy should be repealed, not yet. What I don't like is this tragedy being turned into some kind of natalist propaganda piece. Family planning is absolutely necessary if we plan to raise the standards of living the developing world and reduced our drain on the planet's resources." Here's a link: http://www.earth-policy.org/press_room/C68/fpep_press_release2 talking about the upcoming food shortages entiltled "full planet empty plates". Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 327 Registered: 01-2009 |
The average human being is not capable of thinking about real problems. They want an easy life in their own little bubble glossing over problems and trying to silence those who speak out. Prime example is where I have to work. Mention overpopulation to most of them and you are looked upon as an enemy. Those who speak out about problems, not only overpopulation, generally are singled out or outcasted because either "god" will sort it out or "I am alright jack, forget you" attitude. It seems the less you do in life and the more you treat people poorly in some cases the more they are supported and get away with things. www.ufofacts.me.uk - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 288 Registered: 12-2009 |
Stephen, Yeah it's sad that the average person doesn't care about the Earth. I don't know if it's stupidity or what... If I mention overpopulation at my work it doesn't go well I get shunned to, I instead stick to global warming at first then if they are receptive to that then I spring the overpopulation bit on them. Last year we had an unusually warm winter with little snow which is very odd for where I live so a lot of people near me are suddenly interested in global warming. Keep in mind I usually can't discuss the root cause of global warming but at least I manage to have a somewhat substantial conversation with some of my open minded co-workers but I tell them about rising sea levels, desertification and the whole scenario. I don't bring up BEAM I just bring up some outside global warming books that I've read. I say unfortunately it may take a few decades then people will be more open to learning about overpopulation, once the larger negative effects start that can't be swept under the rug. How many billions of births will that be between now and then? Heck maybe even sooner, I saw on the news the Pentagon released a report that water will be a source of war/conflict in southeast Asia by 2025. Speaking of future negative events, I'm reminded that in the contact reports Semjase said our Earth clothes will fulfill function instead of fashion in 50 years, and that was in the late 1970's so by around 2040 she meant. I wonder if that shift in attire is tied into future climate catastrophe from global warming and overpopulation, or by possible nuclear war? I guess the future will show! Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Rintintin Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 04-2012 |
Corey is not stupidity, it could be an induced state of stupidity by poisoning... 1. Fluorine in water... 2. Aspartame and Sucralose in "healty" "dietetic" food... 3. Glutamato monosodic... 4. Lead, Arcenic and Mercury in the most popular juices for children. 5. Esculane and mercury in the vacines 6. Poison in all cosmetic product for woman The elite just want to kill many of us to slave the world. |
