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Author Message Michael_horn Member Post Number: 555 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 11:10 am:        > Wow, imagine that evil Obama wants to enslave teh American people! You left out an important word along with conspiracy…THEORIES> Please don't waste your time getting all churned up with this nonsense. Obama DOESN'T make all the decisions, as most presidents don't. You may learn from what Billy says in the new film, as the time fulfills. Earthling Member Post Number: 643 Registered: 05-2008 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 11:41 am:        Rintintin ... very interesting. I had no idea Obama is taking a page out of Hitlers book, with Zionist support, naturally ! Thanks! Bruce Corey Member Post Number: 247 Registered: 12-2009 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 01:49 pm:        Rintin, This isn't the first time you posted that crap about Obama, just because you believe it doesn't make it true. If Obama was going to enslave the American people, and put everyone in concentration camps, why would he wait until his second term to do that, which might not happen. You'd think he would have done that by now. Instead he spends all his time forging international peacekeeping agreements (START treaty, deals with China, NPR changes etc), Billy doesn't have anything positive to say about US guns and gun laws, you would know that if you were actually reading the material. I would rather have a President that isn't part of the Anti Logos such as Obama, then someone like Romney. I'm not going to be quick to jump on the let's blame the Zionists bandwagon either, I know Barack is not in bed with those people, I don't care what your coast to coast sources say. You think you think for yourself and that your eyes are open, but you follow the same baseless conspiracy theories as many other people. Salome Corey OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker. Michael_horn Member Post Number: 556 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 02:45 pm:        > Meier also talks about the "Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy" in the film we made. It should clear things up for brain cell possessing people. Rintintin Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 04-2012 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 03:50 pm:        Someone here has a better explanation for these coffins? Schantz Member Post Number: 137 Registered: 03-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 05:06 pm:        Rintintin you're barking up the wrong tree here on this forum. You need to join the pack over at the David Icke and Alex Jones websites. Their eyes are as wide open as yours. We only see reality here at this site. Good luck with your hunt. And thank you for trying to save us from Obama. Ferbon Member Post Number: 81 Registered: 05-2012 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 05:30 pm:        Rintintin ...this is really simple Trouble yourself to investigate what happened during mass slaughters in Rwanda,Cambodia, Somalia, Kongo, China, Russia,Poland, etc. etc. just in the recent retrospect. Who would set of to exterminate millions and prepare some nice set of coffins for them? THINK!!! You have all modern history at your fingertips. Use them first,... before you get trashed. Salome Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 135 Registered: 09-2011 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 06:04 pm:        I support Obama, no matter that he is half-Jewish, half-black, no matter what country he was born in, nor how he has facilitated illegal immigration. He seems to me to be a good man, his heart is in the right place. To me, that trumps anything else. As a voting block, the American people's first order of business is to pick government leadership from among people who actually want to improve the world for everyone. Barack Obama passes that test in spades. Now we can argue all day long about how best to improve the world, but the first thing we need to do is find something we can all agree on, and that is that whoever runs our country must be serving the public in order to make our world a better place - for all members of our society. Sincere altruism never goes outa style. Life Skyrim Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 06-2012 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 06:17 pm:        Hi Michael, how about "Worldwide Zionist Conspiracy"? I just purchased and watch your new film and noticed that you didn't ask Billy about the Zionists. There is a difference between Zionists and Jews. I enjoyed watching the film. My only complaint is trying to keep up with the fast sub titles and the constant cutting of shots. Why is that? Michael_horn Member Post Number: 559 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 06:35 pm:        > Hi Skyrim, Most people, in the borad sense, are equating the Jews with the world domination scenario. The Zionists may be more accurate but many with prejudices may not even know the term. But, as Asket pointed out, it won't be the Zionists either who "sharpen their blood sword, etc." Billy spoke rather fast and we decided that, since we're not doing voice overs on his parts, that we would just work with his speech pace with the sub-titles. Since most people have easy means now, on computers or TVs, to pause, rewind, review, etc., we figured that they would in cases where they didn't catch all that was written. As far as cutting of shots, we did our best to get the essence of what the different people were saying, though for some this may be too quick, etc., again it was just a stylistic consideration. Blake_p Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 07-2012 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 06:43 pm:        Michael< where is your new video yall are talking about? Need to see it, or somebody point me in the right direction please. Michael_horn Member Post Number: 560 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 06:40 pm:        > Billy spoke specifically about the dynamics involved in the challenges Obama faces. Blake_p Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 07-2012 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 06:40 pm:        Michaelhelfert agreed. Most people have forgot to evaluate the person and not get caught up with the "show" of todays's politics. First and foremost he is a good person fundamentally, but nobody wants to talk about how he is facing the biggest opposition of any person in history and sadly people allow themselves to be swayed by outright lies from his opponents and nobody minds or cares, Pretty sad! Baselineplayer Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 09-2007 Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 12:30 am:        Reply to Earthling Member Post Number: 642, I have been reading around here a lot for years, and it usually stays there, but at last, I must reply here, since a clear picture have to be provided about what is happening in Syria as well as in other places. I think you have got a bit wrong about what is happening in Syria: The fact is obvious that the regime is going rampage since the majority of the people have turned against it. Yes, it is the regime's thugs that is killing, raping, looting, burning and torturing. They don't spare even newborn children from torture. Please, look away from the "mainstream" media, which too long have collected what comes from official sources and look carefully what this is about. It is about a fight against an oppressive government that replies by killing and torture. I look through more alternative sources as they mainly comes direct from Syria without passing "mainstream" media. I do, however, not at all trust Reuters since they made many mistakes already when the civil war raged in Libya. The best and most accurate information came through sources on Twitter and forum discussions on Aljazeera's blogs. It's pretty the same about Syria, there the most accurate information comes from within the country, and what happens there is against all commandments of Creation in form of abuse and injustice on behalf of the regime, which has an ideology similar to that of the Nazi regime in Germany 1933-1945. Syria have been ruled by several military dictatorships since it got independent in 1944, but since 1963, it have been ruled by this Baath party (a Nazi style ideology), that have institutionalised injustice and oppression. Finally, the people is fed up to live under a system of injustice and rise up for a life in dignity. Yes, you are right that it will be strong reactions against meddling from external powers. In case of Syria as well as Libya, it was Russia and China that actively supported the dictatorships, and the consequences will be that these peoples will turn againt these. In Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen, it was USA, and France etc that supported the dictatorships, and now they have turned away. Now, both the governments of "western" countries as well as of Russia and China are afraid to suffer the wave of civil disobedience, and the rightful claims of the people against corruption, powerhunger and greed. The "western" governments are more sensitive to this and are easier to remove, but in more authoritarian countries, it goes unfortunately to bloodshed before a government can be removed. Many of the governments as well as the big corporates are runned by individuals that literally are prepared to sell their own parents and children for just a handful Dollars more. This is how rotten it is in the world. At the end, I am not at all interested in these conspiracy theories about only Israel and USA as scapegoats, since they are not alone in any context of what is happening in the world. It is all around bad leaders and bad leadership. If the bad leaders are removed, things would be a lot better. The best way to reach the time of peace, is to remove all oppression and injustice. Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards /Baselineplayer Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 618 Registered: 03-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 11:09 pm:        Rintintin, It states right at the beginning of that first video that the coffins were spotted at that site as far back as fall, 2000. And I remember reading about the FEMA detention camps way back during the senior Bush administration even before Clinton. So these clearly have nothing to do with the Obama administration. As for the second video, the National Defense Authorization Act, (NDAA) is a United States federal law specifying the budget and expenditures of the United States Department of Defense. It is signed each and every year. The indefinite detention bill is embedded in the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). It was the US Senate that voted 86 to 13 in favor of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 on Dec16, 2011. This means that it was moot whether Obama signed it into law or not because the predominant Republican senate had the two-thirds majority in hand to override any veto measure on Obama’s part who was still reluctant to sign it and threatened to veto it at one point. The actual wording regarding indefinite detention appears in Section 1021 of the NDAA, “Authority of the Armed Forces to Detain Covered Persons Pursuant to the AUMF.” The first provision — section (a) — explicitly “affirms that the authority of the President” under the AUMF includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons.” The next section, (b), defines “covered persons” — i.e., those who can be detained by the U.S. military — as “a person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.” With regard to those “covered individuals,” this is the power vested in the President by the next section, (c): 19 (c)DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR – The dis- 20 position of a person under the law of war as described 21 in subsection (a) may include the following: 22 (1) Detention under the law of war without 23 trial until the end of hostilities authorized by the 24 Authorization for Use of Military Force. The detention proviso was first included under the Bush administration shortly after 9/11 when hysteria was high and variations of the verbiage has continued in the Act ever since. Thankfully, we have three branches of government, and the final word belongs to the Supreme Court, which has yet to rule on the scope of detention authority. The third video you posted has nothing to do with the first two or with Obama and is blatantly rascist. It saddens me to see the spin on the truth being perpetrated to demonize Obama especially with regards to human rights issues. His first act as president after being sworn into office was to issue an executive order requiring that the Guantanamo Bay detention facility be closed within a year. The president said he was issuing the order to "restore the standards of due process and the core constitutional values that have made this country great even in the midst of war, even in dealing with terrorism." Regards Bob Edward Member Post Number: 2500 Registered: 05-2002 Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 11:47 pm:        Hi Colorado_dirk.... Error on: including France: they are FULFILLING the Prediction into a Prophecy!! Should be: including France: they are FULFILLING the Prophecy into a Prediction!! [But, I think some out there may have know what I meant? I usually, have that correct; as in my previous postings.] Apologies for that. And I would like to add, that Hollande of France did mentioned he will pull out all French troops as soon as possible, and not wait till, what was it...2014(/2016?), which is of course, very positive, and will of course, generate less friction and any attacks what-so-ever. Majority of the French population are tired of the war; very logical. Edward. Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 619 Registered: 03-2007 Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 02:04 am:        Rintintin: "Someone here has a better explanation for these coffins?" The narrator at the beginning of the video asked the owner who owned the coffins and the owner replied, the CDC and they were also leasing the land. The CDC, of course, is the Center for Disease Control and they are to be used for the containment of disease in the eventuality of a large scale pandemic event whereby several dead bodies would be loaded in the same container, stacked on trains and hauled to FEMA camps where incinerators are to dispose of the bodies. The container is made of materials so that no toxic gas out-sourcing is produced when burned. It has US Patent No. 5,425,163 http://www.google.com/patents/US5425163 Earthling Member Post Number: 644 Registered: 05-2008 Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 05:50 am:        Baselineplayer .. thanks for your well-thought-out comments. Finally, the Arab consciousness, as evidenced in the so-called "Arab Spring", as a whole, is looking within to solve their problems, rather than assigning blame outwardly, iow finding a scapegoat. You a tennis player per chance? Bruce Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 139 Registered: 09-2011 Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 11:28 am:        Earthling (Bruce), your dark sarcasm further exaggerates the racial/religious polarization that plagues humanity. Is this your intent? We truly are one group of people on this planet. Ya might wanna get that into yer noggin, afore yer reborn as somethin you don't currently like. Life Skyrim Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 06-2012 Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 04:44 pm:        Hi Michael, That explains it. I was wondering why it was filmed that way. I still thoroughly enjoyed watching it though, but to be truthful, not as much as I liked the TSROT film. That was a great film! I suppose its because it gave the whole story of Billy. Hi Baselineplayer, I agree, our mainstream media is not telling us the truth about whats going on in Syria. But while Syria's regime is brutal and is doing killings, I feel its not as bad as what its being made out to be. Whats more I think the West is trying to destabilize Syria for its (and israels) own gain. West attempts to destabilize Syria: Micheal Chussodovsky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z6nmAjkER4 The plan to destabilize syria..! (original) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA9-E6MpcAc phil Skyrim Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 06-2012 Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 04:48 pm:        forgot to add this Russia Will Confront Any US-led Attack on Syria: Webster Tarpley - PressTV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaCayFZ0z20 phil Baselineplayer Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 09-2007 Posted on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 01:19 am:        Earthling: No. I'm not a tennis player, but I liked the moniker name while chosing one. Skyrim: Sadly, your youtube links are of no use at all. Two of them are from pressTV, which is the propaganda media channel of the ayatollah regime in Iran, that is the main ally os the Syrian regime. The third youtube link (marked original) is of a channel that is supporting the Syrian regime. The sectarian ayatollah regime in Iran is very afraid of losing Syria, because that erodes all their strategies. They also have the sectarian militia of "Hezbollah" as ally in Lebanon. The truth is however, that Iran have dispatched tens of thousands troops on the ground in Syria, but it doesn't go well for them. The Syrian resistance fighters have eliminared many thousands of Iranian Revolutionary Guards and Basiji militia since March this year. Also the Libanese "Hizbollah" militia have lost many thousands of fighters in fierce battles mainly in north and west Syria. The regime forces are using indiscriminate heavy shelling and bombing against civilians, which have created the most havoc in Syria. Russia have at last given up on the Syrian regime. It is going to withdraw from there, since it don't want to spend more resources on a lost cause. Remember Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq etc? - These countries have been painful experiences for both Russia and USA. It is not worth the price to have troops and military facilities in countries there the people are against it. Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards /Baselineplayer Earthling Member Post Number: 645 Registered: 05-2008 Posted on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 02:11 am:        Michael, unfortunately, my 'dark' sarcasm, as you put it, is not exaggerating any racial/religious (unknowlegeness/ignorance) polarization. If some come here with their 2nd-hand/rehashed/unknowledge-based-lazy-ass-thinking/passe/out-of-date conspiracy nonsense that brought us-truly-one-group-of-people-on-this-planet hatred, torture, bloodshed for thousands of years, that's what I have to offer at this point in time. I don't have the words as the Prophet of the New Age does, who has laid the path out of such darkness, for those of us who have arrived here, therefore I resort to poking fun at the idiocy of certain comments with 'dark sarcasm'. And since you have access to the Meier material, you should no better than to offer new-age karmic-nonsensical warnings and admonitions such "afore yer reborn as somethin you don't currently like." If you had read and understood the Meier material and had laid to rest your previous false-new-ageish notions, you would know that with a new birth, the new consciousness and new personality are born unencumbered of such non-existent and false-karmic notions. So it comes as no surprise that not only do you hold onto such false eastern-philosophical nonsense but you also hold onto some false western unknowledgeness/ignorances as laid out in such works as "The Learned Elders of Zion"; even as I sense some growth out from this, in this regard from yourself. Your work is not done as my work is not done and perhaps I will find a different way, rather than 'dark sarcasm' to express my amazement at such stupidity from those who should know better. Salome, Bruce Bruce

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