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    Jacob Moderator Post Number: 917 Registered: 01-2004 |
True democracy only exists when everyone in that democracy is equal, that means: If everyone has a similar level of development in natural creative laws and recommendations of the Creation, spirit teaching and a thorough common knowledge and general education. It's called the one-ness principle, oneness and equality in diversity. How can an issue be democratically addressed in a logical and rational way when there are tremendous differences amongst the voters when they have huge differences in understanding, knowledge and wisdom. One would not let an unknowing child decide if the regulating rods in a nuclear reactor need to be lowered or not, but only those technicians who are educated in this nuclear technology and understand the implications. (this is just an example and no judgement about the right or wrong of nuclear energy) If all people in a community have a similar level of knowledge and wisdom they would and could still retain their own individuality and decide about an issue and thinking in a logical way about it. On Earth when it happens a lot that the uneducated mass can decide about an issue which would lead to total disaster. It's often the uneducated mass of people, who are partially kept uneducated and stupid by the rich and shameless for purposes of exploitation, who have the majority vote. The only way how true democracy works is by eliminating the major differences in education between people and allow them to think about all the facts, pro's and cons. My 2 cts. Salome, Jacob Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 724 Registered: 06-2008 |
"It's often the uneducated mass of people, who are partially kept uneducated and stupid by the rich and shameless for purposes of exploitation, who have the majority vote." So that's not just another conspiracy theory ? Like with elections where voters get to decide whether a mule or donkey is the best candidate to further the agenda's of shameless puppet masters for the next 4 years ..... Cheers. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 30 Registered: 05-2012 |
Kiwilove, True democracy will be present when political parties/systems won't exist at all. For that, the society would have to be at level described by Jacob, and be able to decide for themselves in equal/similarly conscience way. I fear, that such level of democracy, will have to be first payed for in suffering and destruction. Differences and tensions, at present, are to enormous to learn it by pure logic and reason. First good sign of people working collectively would be to deal with overpopulation - naturally. Until that problem is resolved, I don't see how true democracy can even be considered possible. Salome | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 111 Registered: 02-2005 |
The greatest majority in any democracy today - are those who don't vote at all. Many people have lost confidence in the voting system, that they do not exercise their right to vote - with the attitude that their vote does not count. I was surpised to read that the Plejarens said that Bush did not actually get re-elected, that he got re-elected because of votes in the past election. I do agree with their view, that political parties ought to be eliminated - because they only confuse/mess up the voting issue. And political parties are not that radically different from each other anyway - because they still have to SERVE the whole community anyway. And they should serve and not dictate... In a democracy there should be an accurate counting of votes, in which the majority decision should rule. Decisions are made today only for a 3 or 5 year term - and that is such short sightedness. Today we need to get rid of all the falseness that is fed to the public as being true, which is not. Politicians and religious people (believers) feed us a lot of this false material and pass it on. Harvey | ||
Cbp0009 Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 04-2012 |
Post deleted due to inappropriate language. (Message edited by indi on July 18, 2012) | ||
Goodmanallen Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 01-2010 |
As I see it, the party system is a divide and conquer system, designed to separate citizens into belief structures, and promote animosity between them. The leaders, or "hardliners" of either party do not truly represent the will or the good of the citizens, but rather their views of what the citizens should be willing to accept, this in and of itself seems to me to be all based on personal agenda, and more of a battle of "us vs. them" mentality. The whole purpose of "public servant" is to serve the best interest of the citizens well being, the will of and welfare for the citizens as a whole, not a perceived majority interest. As Billy has said, every citizen must voice there opinion with a vote, The vote for none of the above would make much more of a statement that not voting at all, if the representatives are truly no better one or the other. Allen. | ||
Epicn2l New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2012 |
I am working on an animation about the excerpt from contact 18 "understanding the term creation" and I have completed the storyboard to the best of my knowledge. Some parts I'm not sure about and can't find the info online like "how should they(Billy & Semjase) greet each other?". Also, I am not sure if the visuals are correctly portraying what Semjase is explaining. I want to make sure it is accurate to the material before I start rendering and animating the final. What section should I post link to storyboard, scene renders, questions, etc? Thank you for your time. | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 112 Registered: 02-2005 |
I think what is often overlooked, is that we are a community, whether it be a national community or an international one - and we have to get along with each other. There are those who will break a community apart for their own ends, whether they be small radical groups or the elite - when they resort to murder - they have lost their equal right, and should be eliminated or removed from society in some way or another. This may sound rather harsh and cruel - but this is the only way to protect the innocent and ourselves. Recognise the problem and provide a remedy, otherwise the problem won't go away and grows instead. And, is this not cause and effect in action? Harvey | ||
Hawaiian Member Post Number: 86 Registered: 05-2011 |
Kiwilove, You are right with that statement "I was surpised to read that the Plejarens said that Bush did not actually get re-elected, that he got re-elected because of votes in the past election. What the Plejaren mean is that when someone decides not to participate in the election, then that means a "Yes" vote for the incombant president Bush and a "No" vote for his opponents. Absent vote is beneficial to the existing politician seeking re-election, only the stupid ones think that boycutting the political process is the answer and have no right to complain after the fact, because they are part of the problem not the solution. Just the same applies to all factions including the Plejarens, High Council, and the 7 different spiritual levels as will regarding BEAM's mission here on Earth and the DERN universe. | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 113 Registered: 02-2005 |
We should all (ie. everyone) recognise the madness and insanity in this world, and have no part to do with it. Even reviewing recent history reveals this. That the end of WWII with the atom bomb, was pure madness. As too with the development of the hydrogen bomb, the arms race - all for what? Trillions of dollars could have better spent for more positive outcomes instead. And we should recognise war for war it is. A crime against fellow man. That we should never go to war again, for whatever reason. Having militaries ready for war, only makes war easier - and is not the way for peace and trust. Even if we have vastly different belief systems and differing opinions - there should still be some things we can all agree upon. Harvey | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 608 Registered: 03-2007 |
Epicn2l:"What section should I post link to storyboard, scene renders, questions, etc?" Hello and welcome to the FIGU Forum! I would suggest posting it in the thread: Poetry, Music and Art and go from there. That thread can be found under General Area>>Non-FIGU Related>>Poetry, Music and Art. Even though it does relate to FIGU it nonetheless seems to have an art emphasis. | ||
Epicn2l New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 06-2012 |
Thanks Phi_spiral. Will do. | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 259 Registered: 04-2006 |
Your Questions to Billy Meier--Answered "Norm Dear Billy, Can you now tell us why a gun full of blanks were shot at Queen Elizabeth? Thanx, Norm No." Hi Norm, May I ask where you got this info from? I searched here and contact notes at futureofmankind website and found nothing. | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 106 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hello all, 1.How did the laws, reccomendations, and directives first establish themselves from the creation to the human being? 2.Were these laws first dicovered by old spirit forms/prophets through their observation of nature? 3.were these laws, directives, and reccomendations always existing even before life forms did? Salome Derrick | ||
Paul Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 02-2009 |
Hello Derrick, As far as I know from the information from FIGU the Geisteslehre or Spiritual Teaching, which is the teaching of truth, the teaching of spirit, the teaching of life so therefore the teaching of the laws and directives of the Creation itself, was devised a very long time ago by the prophet Nokodemion before his spirit-form went over into the High Council level. The laws and directives themselves were created by the Creation itself which emerged from a so called UR-Idee from the UR-Creation. Hope this helps. Salome. Paul. | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 107 Registered: 01-2011 |
Thanks Paul, This was helpful  Salome | ||
Heidibelle New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2012 |
Is food covered by Billy? I am curious about the diet of humans. It seems to be a major problem. I would imagine an all plant based diet is our ideal. I'd like to know what the Plajereans eat. Thanks! | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 635 Registered: 05-2008 |
Heidibelle - there is some info here http://ca.figu.org/Diet_and_Nutrition.html Bruce | ||
Abdiel Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2010 |
To the moderators. Why don't you modify the forums so that the people can put their avatars? | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 545 Registered: 07-2009 |
> My two cents. How's about people put their…real names first (unless living in a country where that can be fatal)? I also think that avatars are just another bit of nonsense that belong on all those forums where people like to think of themselves as something other than what they really are. Escapism isn't the priority here. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 547 Registered: 07-2009 |
> I remember once reading some unusual info about increasing HCL (through digestive enzyme supplementation) as being ehlpful in some cases. | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 225 Registered: 12-2009 |
Michael, You posted,"> My two cents. How's about people put their…real names first (unless living in a country where that can be fatal)?" I live in a very religious part of the U.S. and I would never put my first name openly on this type of forum. Also, about the avatar thing, I agree that this forum is no place for its members to have avatars. | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 108 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hello Jacob and all, I have a few questions regarding the evolution of animal species/instinctual consciousness. 1. In the evolution of animals, is their future evolution/existance/incarnations limited only to instinctual consciousness for all times? 2. Does one species always remain in the same group of species? 3.In the course of time, do they evolve into higher realms of consciousness. 4. For example, "Reptileoids", Is there a tie between them and the reptile animal kingdom? 5. Is it logical that one evoled from the other? or not at all? Thanks, Salome Derrick |
