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Matt
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Post Number: 284
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the US president was just a puppet Billy would have said that it doesn't matter who wins the election, but he didn't. So the US president does have power, only its second to the CIA.
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Matt
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Post Number: 285
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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Victor

allo Mr Meier,

I very glad to hear Obama is good person and president. Has Obama getting elected stopped the fear of world war 3? If he gets killed (soon), how does the future threat of WW3 look? Is world safe if he completes 2 terms office?


It would be very favourable if Obama would complete two terms in office. He really has the personal possibility to prevent WW3.

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/10712.html#POST45576}
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Ferbon
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Post Number: 130
Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jedaiah

...speaking about delusion - have you got your manuscript/storyboard or whatever ready yet? I bet there will be a lot of sense of humor in there as well!
btw...it is probably better to describe someones "undeveloped WAY/PROCESS/NATURE/LOGIC/HARMONY of thinking" since thinking more likely doesn't have any form and is quite possibly based on fluidal and electromagnetic forces which we're yet to understand. Although based on those forces, dreaming and thinking are likely both timeless and spaceless
Thanks for reading my posts! I do at least try to think when I write them.

cheers

Ferbon, whether you agree or disagree with what Jedaiah says, there is no reason to be disrespectful, please lighten up.

Scott-FIGU Forum Moderator


(Message edited by scott on November 08, 2012)
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Scott
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Post Number: 2333
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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please lets get back to the topic heading
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Edward
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Post Number: 2565
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi ALL and Matt....


Yes, Congratulations with Obama's VICTORY!

I would agree, Matt, Obama still has some Power to his disposal...which can
AVERT WW3 and other destructive scenarios. And, also, improving the needs of
the US population and other countries, as well.

As Billy said, Obama, CARES about ALL people and not just a few...or just one
country: a REAL People's Man!!


Edward.
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Skyrim
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 06-2012
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will post this here because the present discussion here is about the power difference between the US President and the CIA.


CIA Director David Petraeus quits over affair

"WASHINGTON (AP) — David Petraeus, the retired four-star general renowned for taking charge of the military campaigns in Iraq and then Afghanistan, abruptly resigned Friday as director of the CIA, admitting to an extramarital affair. The affair was discovered during an FBI investigation, according to officials briefed on the developments."


My question is if the CIA is the highest power in the US (and not the US President) then why did the CIA allow the FBI to take down its highest ranking member?

phil
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Norm
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2012 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David Petraeus is probably nothing but a figure head put forward by the different Presidents to make the public think the President is in charge. The real leaders of the CIA are calling the shots behind the scenes. The President probably isn't even aware what's going on behind the CIA's closed doors. The CIA can tell him whatever they want. And he has a limited way to check on it.
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Skyrim
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 06-2012
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm, that makes sense, thanks!
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Justsayno
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Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting to note that David Petraeus makes an appearance in the video game Call of Duty 4.
http://www.theprovince.com/life/David+Petraeus+enlisted+cameo+Call+Duty+Black+game/7543542/story.html#axzz2CaDKB7A0
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2574
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All....


I would think, not to forget those WEALTHY Families....whom are also pulling
the strings!?

Guys, like George Bush senior(ex CIA BOSS), and his Wealthy Buddies and
so-and-so....


Let us not forget, that the CIA was founded by Wealthy American Families!!

Did not fall from the sky!!

Thus, they got their (fat) finger in the porridge, as well!!


Enjoy....The Puppet Show.....:-)


Edward.
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Verlanis
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 10-2012
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear fellow earth humans,

This is going to sound presumptuous beyond belief, but it is the truth. The Plejaren will not be coming back here anytime soon. Their visits have ended by decree for the humanity of earth. Though they had the best of intentions, and indeed have been a very large help in this last century, their actions have also caused great harm. Their misjudgement of the NAZIs being the prime example. They will not hand over any more technology from any telenotic means, their presence will not be allowed on this planet. This sounds harsh and unjust, but they are committing the same crimes, albeit in a lighter sense, as the likes of the Kamagols, Jehovah and other monsters just by meddling in the affairs of the Reincarnation Cycles of this planet.

There will be no more prophets. There will be no more guiding help from the stars as it is NOT their place to interfere or meddle even in the mistakes made on this planet. If they want to help then they can join the Reicarnation Cycle of Earth and help from within.

Billy committed a serious crime by even speaking to these beings. This crime is not written by the Laws of Earth Men, but it is written out there. This is the Law of Non-Intervention of developing species, and this is now put into place here on Earth.

This Quarantine of Earth will have further consequences: All Telenotic transmissions will end and incoming impulses will be deflected, all examination contacts will end, all non-indigenous outsiders (outside of the Reincarnation Cycle) will be removed from this planet with proper exception to those that will be part of the Reincarnation Cycle in the future.

Billy is pardoned for his Naivety in these matters. His Mission has been a tremendous help, but the Consequences that resulted from outside interference will be amended by the Earth Humanity's own substantial Wisdom and power. Earth is now a Sovereign Body and will not Tolerate any more outside help or hindrance.

To the moderators,
Please post this message, but if not then pass it along to FIGU proper and to Billy when it is feasible. He will be able to confirm this in his Just Wisdom.
Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key.
I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. --Jack W.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> If we've grasped the teaching, especially regarding complete self-responsibility, then the foundation has been properly laid and there's no need to indulge in illogical pontificating .
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 46
Registered: 07-2012
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where have you gotten this information from may i ask? I feel like you just got a phone call personally from Ptaah by the way all that sounded.
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Schantz
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Post Number: 161
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Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Verlanis,

I think Billy would have a serious belly laugh if he were to ever read "your" truth.
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Bronzedesk
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 06:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Verlanis

quote: "If they want to help then they can join the Reincarnation Cycle of Earth and help from within."

They are here already and have been in place for quite sometime now my friend!
"Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new."
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Corey
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Post Number: 329
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Verlanis,

Where did you get that impulses (I'm assuming you mean those to scientists and the like) will be deflected?

-I don't think the three races that observe the Earth (no contacts) are going anywhere anytime soon, and if they stay here long enough, some of their spirit forms could enter into the Earth reincarnation cycle, thus becoming full blown earthlings in their next incarnation. Further in the distant future our race will have direct contacts with other extraterrestrials (see Goblet of Truth 25:146). Besides Billy's mission and spirit teaching are the foundation stone for the avalanche that happens in 800 years, when the spiritual teaching replaces future world religions. That's something to be grateful for. Saying Billy and the Plejaren are guilty of something is the wrong mentality IMO after all they have done. Once Billy passes and the Plejaren fully withdraw from this planet, Earth evolution (and in some cases devolution) will continue with both negative and positive events occurring as time passes.

Salome

Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Verlanis
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 10-2012
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clarification is needed, as can well be understood in a matter like this; that of a wildly grandiose claim that Visitation to Earth will be stopped.

This matter is one of deliberation to a problem that has exploded out of hand in every epoch of the last many millenniums. Indeed, if it wasn't for the colonizing of this world then we would not be here now, but this planet has never solidly stood on its own. It has never had the chance to do so because of outside machinations for conquest, as the bloody history revealed by Plejaren which stands as mirror to some the lesser known great minds on Earth. None need be named because one merely has to look around and compare the earth knowledge to Billy's notes to see the resemblance.

The Quarantine is not a single painted target on any one group's head. It is a House Cleaning. Earth does not need these outside machinations. Who are They to decide on whom the Sun shines? Human Wisdom can be compared to a flower, and when it's time to wilt has come then it is time for the Younger ones to Bloom in the old one's stead.

These thoughts were a brick upside my consciousness. I will state this here if nowhere else. In the end of last year and into the beginnings of this year, I have been witness to Ships that only match the description of the Hyperboreans. I was left on my own to uncover this information for matching the sight of the ships to their originators. These were no hallucinations for my family and some close friends seen them, too. My life, as I only was able to put the story together in the last few years, has been a plague of Visitation, and all of the benevolent sort; but, none that I can consciously recall. Only the marks on my body being any sort of sign.

Think me deluded or otherwise but the quarantine is truth, and as Billy so well stated, Truth is usually harsh sounding.

This is my final response on the forum. Thank you for helping me wake up.
Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key.
I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. --
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Jedaiah
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 09-2012
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's for the better what they have done but I can understand why he posted what he did. Despite that, it is STILL our responsibility, regardless of whatever outside influence! How much longer do earthlings have to point the fingers at others before we step up and improve ourselves? Even if they had other intentions - the mere fact of sharing spiritual truths that the earth man has strayed away from, is nothing short of a great benevolence.

I'd like to add that there are already starseeds here on earth helping in various ways and doing what they can... I should know.
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Thomas57
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

B-T-W; nothing in my last post is intended to be disrespectful to any intelligence(human or alien) who actually has performed Creation-level tasks.

I, for one; am delighted and much more informed from Eduard 'Billy' Albert Meier, and his sharing than would have otherwise been possible; due to being buried in religious dogmas here.

In that sense, there may be-unseen, nor open to us as individuals - processes that each Earth and non-Earth-based, conscientiousness(block) wants to undertake. If using Meier's methodologies, improves one's focus and processing skills, GREAT! We(all of us) are not privy to the lessons the others choose - nor the 'why' of that choosing - nor ought we be!

Michael Horn stated it in Post #603 - succinctly - and I endorse that comment!

**consciousness (block)?

(Message edited by indi on December 16, 2012)
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Thomas57
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think 'Velanis', has a viable point of view. If - as is related in these Meier Contact reports, and recent history, that there is a 'proven' interaction from 'off-planet', thinking, Creation-endowed life-forms, then they HAVE violated the (so-called) Prime Directive - and therefore have a choice within their growth cycles - to repair that which they inculcated here, even though in lesser evolved states.

I, for one, am here - due to being 'bored' with a perfectionistic(sp) frame of reference(imagined or otherwise) and am willing to re-live human existence, to enlarge my 'basics', and even - perhaps, discover why others think and act the way they do.

I am NOT one to blindly 'believe' or follow - just because 'it' sounds good, is more logical, or otherwise directly dropped onto Earth, from the highest level of Creation itself.

If I cannot 'understand' or utilize these human interactions - then being here will assist that.

The "I", cannot lose that which "I" made a portion of myself through experience.

As the words to a tune from 'Thunderdrome', "we don't need another 'hero'; we don't need to know the way 'home'(that's our personal responsibility to discover), . . .. life beyond (this planet) the Thunderdrome".

Billy's experiences are there for each to draw from - as THEY need and want.

NOT for another damn religion(or those of like mindedness!)

Thank you, Verlanis, for speaking your mind!(and honestly, at that!)
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Abdiel
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why the plejaran alphabet have nearly identical letters to the Jewish alphabet?

Does the plejarans are:

1. Jewish extraterrestrial that come from the future to conspire?

2. Or they are trying to "fix" the mess that they (as jewish) have done during world war 1 and world war 2?
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Thomas57
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Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps, those reincarnating again here - due to past lives interactions with Ur-Earth 'humanity', are more than just Plejaren or past Lyran descendants. The Tuatha De'Danann were also a traveling 'lot', where they arrived in 'circular' ships('Sky gods') and settled here(my perceived past relatives) . .

http://www.mythicalireland.com/mythology/tuathade/

and

http://www.shee-eire.com/Magic&Mythology/Races/Tuatha-De-Danann/Page1.htm

Many are now awakening from our slumber of the ages, -due, in part to BEAM, but nonetheless are seeing that lack of sustainable future with what was happening here. Anyone familiar with Native American 'sky-god' myths, will also see those past non-Earth Ur lifeforms coming here.

IMO there is much that Verlanis shared, those many here ought to 'get-off-the-religion' wagon way of responding and thinking and begin to assist in evolving away from (as Michael Horn said) "illogical" ways of action.

The 'Spirit' lessons have always been here - for those of evolving, Ur-intelligence; many Ur-Native peoples have that in their ancestors' stories - . . . . and IMO Meier's spirit lessons are valid in promoting that evolution.

Have an illustrious start to your 2013!
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Memo00
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Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All Earth Languages are derived from ET languages, so its logical that there are many similarities. Assyrian, Arabic, Hebraic, Babylonian and Aramaic languages supposedly come from a language called "HEBRJN".

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