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Author Message Markcampbell Member Post Number: 687 Registered: 10-2008 Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 03:59 pm:        Meeting with yourself in the same lifetime is possible , as well as even the same week or day , with a time variable , as I understand it . Which does not mean I understand completely ! Ramirez Member Post Number: 614 Registered: 06-2008 Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 04:29 am:        Hi Earthling, Go back 2000 years. J is visited by Billy in company with Asket whose craft time travel capability makes the journey and experience possible. Asket and Billy physically existed in 1976 or whatever year it was as did the craft. Now if you imagine that now it's similar to the year 32, Billy is living in SSSC but also he is alive as another personality in a future time though within the boundary of Asket's physical lifetime which would be approximately another 600+ years. So working from some date in the future limited to her actual lifespan (600+ more years) and whilst Billy is alive as that other personality in the future which she locates as she is able to on this planet with Timar technology, visits him, takes him aboard her craft, navigates through time back into the past same as she did with Billy to visit J in 32, zeros in on SSSC and arrives to pay a visit. The principles are identical to what she did in 1976 except ...... fast forward into the future to visit the past which will become a snapshot of now when it occurs. There is the past, the future and the moment now in which we exist as a never ending continuous series of frames like that of a film which become the past as soon as they are experienced. Various races will continue to monitor and visit Earth and locate Billy throughout each of his future incarnations. Whether they make physical contact is another matter. Did Galileo receive mysterious visitors of which he never spoke ? If you limit yourself to understanding time from only a linear perspective it wont make sense. But from another conceptual perspective all time from the big bang to the start of null time at 155.5 trillion years after the big bang already exists, has occurred, and parts of it are navigable both ways via the appropriate technology. "Asket also time travel back in time from the future with a future incarnation of Billy's to visit Billy & herself?" Are you saying here it might be this ..... Asket has come from the future in company with a future incarnation of Billy and is visiting him some day at SSSC within the next few years. Then arrives another female in company with a man and they introduce themselves as Asket & ******* from yet another time period also paying a visit..... what a party hey Not sure if that's possible. Maybe you can ask Billy and make it the strangest monthly question ever ..... must be a limit to these possibilities. Hi James, Within this lifetime of Billy .... during the next few years not after his passing. Asket is not a Plejaran and whether it will really happen .... would make an interesting contact report Cheers. Zanderson New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 06-2011 Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 07:42 am:        P-Question #1 Can our choices in the future effectively determine what occured in our present or past... Now think about this carefully before you make a comment. I have an explanation, rather a hypothesis for such an argument but I'd like to see what you guys think first... "Moderators can you use this post instead of the previous post... P.S. Can you delete this quote from this post Thanks " Zanderson: Conscious Evolution... Patm Member Post Number: 113 Registered: 07-2006 Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 10:36 am:        How can a decision be made by us in the future as all decisions are made in the here and now (present)? Part of making that decision, in the now, can be influenced by our past. In our future we will also be making decisions in our then present (at that time) and can be influenced by our past (at that time) which then will include our current present. Even if we have the opportunity to travel into the future and make a decision, we will still be making it in our then current present... PatM Zanderson New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 06-2011 Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 08:12 am:        I agree with what you've said PatM. But as it relates to your question "How can a decision be made by us in the future as all decisions are made in the here and now (present)?" let me clarify. We only make choices and experience our existence in the here and now, and not really in the past or future. But to better understand this relation with time we give it these labels. Just has how you can recall making a choice or existing in the past, when that particular event actually occurred it was in your here and now. I've just given you a hint to my hypothesis... If you like, feel free to give it another go..... P.S. I may actually be wrong but in my mind it seems soooooo correct.... Zanderson: Conscious Evolution... Patm Member Post Number: 114 Registered: 07-2006 Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 12:44 pm:        If you were to go into the current future and make a decision (your then current present) then return to the then current past (your now current present) a decision you now make in the the current present can be influenced by a decision that you made in your now current past which was actually made in your now current future (again all decisions are made in the current present no matter what time frame you are in). -PatM J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1412 Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 - 09:11 am:        ** This aspect of time travel, while addressing an intellectual curiosity, is even so an exercise in futility. Do you happen to own a time-travel machine? Do you know anyone who does? Me neither. While there may yet be our descendants coming back 44,000 or 52,000 years from their degenerated conditions in the future, we can't help them, and they can't help us. The Plejaren for their part, have given us all they are willing to in this period of our evolution, until we become mature as a one-world civilization. The point here is to take responsibility for your Spiritual growth as well as your Intellectual growth. Be at peace in your center, and let it grow among those you Love .... this is what you can do for the future ... Salome ............. ** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod Jacob Moderator Post Number: 754 Registered: 01-2004 Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 - 01:47 pm:        I do agree with j_rod7 indeed, time travel is currently just an intellectual exercise, which won't materialize for hundreds of years. The main focus should be on the material, consciousness-related and spiritual evolution in the here-and-now. Our time is so limited, just 8 or 9 decades tops when one is lucky, rather use the time for what you can do now, then focus on something what will never materialize in this lifetime. Salome, Jacob Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! Patm Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 07-2006 Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 09:36 am:        I'm not completely sure this response is even worth the present time I take to make it, but.... It may influence others in my current future that read and understand it (their current present when they read it)... I will give one example of the relevance that has already occurred in our distant past... At the time when a primitive female of earth copulated with Semjasa (of the Nokodemion spirit lineage), thus producing Adam, during their present time, his cousin, the JHWH leader for earth, Semjasa allowed this behavior to occur and included many co-conspirators that also made other primitive earth women pregnant. The JHWH commander, Arus, became upset (when he found out) with this behavior and required a re-learning of the Creational Laws and recommendations by both Semjasas as well as all the co-conspirators engaging in this behavior. At that time a future viewing (time travel - physical and/or via impulse) was conducted to be used in the future planning to correct the then change that resulted in the Nokodemion spirit lineage. Detailed planning was involved in the requirement for the Nokodemion spiritual lineage being done through the genealogical descendants of Adam. As it was a requirement for Jmmanuel, and that this genealgy link would not occur through Joseph but through Mary (Maria) who was also of the same genealogy lineage as was Joseph, which allowed the requirement of the geneology link through Adam's descendants for the Nokodemion spirit form to re-incarnate into Jmmanuel, to be fulfilled. Although for some it may be a futile intellectual exercise, I personally find it useful in understanding its use through what has already occurred, even though I don't have a time machine and probably won't in this lifetime, the Plejaren did, and it is interesting how they utilized it to aid in our (and their) development. PatM Edward Member Post Number: 2249 Registered: 05-2002 Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 02:37 am:        Hi PatM.... Am familiar with that. I think he was even so furious, he wanted to eliminate the whole situation and individuals involved. But, this did not happen. I guess, if Arus was notified about the scenario he would have been less furious. His point of view was well to be understood when he mentioned the re-learning of the Creational Laws. Semjasa, having such scenario up his sleeve should have been made known to Arus. Thus, it was indeed no 'one night stand' so to speak, but indeed the Redirecting of the course of MAN here, on Earth, for the Betterment. Yeah, JHFH leaders manipulate us and of course even the mentioned JHWHs, to even Direct what the JHFH leaders conducted for their own purposes: Enslaving MAN to his disadvantage. And so they go into the Future and grasp a 'glimpse' what is TO BE, and if not suited as it should: Manipulation/Redirecting of our TODAY, that then, PAST will manifest, for the Betterment of MAN and all related, Future. What did Norm, once say here on this board, something like: When will they stop playing with us, or something? He does have a point there. But, I guess, if it concerns a Redirecting of our Future for the Betterment, it may have to be accepted. As the Plejarans say: "Live and ASSIST to Live...." [NOT: live and let live..] Time Travel can be a Wonderful thing, no....? Edward. Zanderson Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 06-2011 Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 06:04 pm:        I heard what you guys have suggested, but don't get me wrong I'm not planning to time travel any "time" soon... But if this present personality is more adept at understanding concepts such as time travel, why not? From what I understanding the manifestation of various spiritual powers (controlled) becomes a reality after the relevant wisdom is acquired so why not try to acquire as much of that wisdom now for future incarnations to have at there disposal? Just as how Jmmanuel was able to travel through time (look into the future/possible the past) with his consciousness related powers, he must have previously acquired the wisdom relating to "time" to do so? Yes I know its unlikely in this life, but who knows, maybe I'll be able to free my consciousness sensors of the restrictions of time, after all "practice makes perfect"?..... Zanderson: Conscious Evolution... Stokley New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 06:14 pm:        Hello All I am an avid listener of the Coast to Coast radio program in the United States and I urge others to listen as well. Over the years there have been numerous programs concerning time travel. One such recent program and others in the past concerned a lawyer in the United States named Andrew D. Basiago. He claims that D.A.R.P.A. procured time travel technology over 40 years ago through Project Pegasus. He claims to have been sent back in time to witness Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address. He also claims that he was in a photo that was taken at Gettysburg during Lincoln's speech. He again claims that he traveled into the future as well. Andrew also said that children were trained to go back into past events to bring back intelligence, such as Lincoln's assasination. He claims that DARPA stopped sending childern to the past because each time things would change in those past events ever so slightly and they did not know the ramifications. These time travel experiments occured in the 1970's via a "jump room" in El Segundo, Ca. Andrew also stated that they had a technology called Chronovision which was like a hologram of past and future events. On the last program he claimed to have visited Mars in the 1980's via an elevator "jump room" Andrew also claims that the Barak Obama also visited Mars and knew from an early age that he would be President of the United States. Of course, all of this was done through DARPA and the CIA. If all of this is true, then we have all been lied to and shackled by governments throughout time, we have truly lost our way endulging in our material possesions and not seeking the true path to physical and most of all spiritual freedom. DARPA along with the CIA have known of past and future events and have manipulated the mass consciousness to their own desires. Who really knows how many people in government had knowledge of their own futures before they were in their present positions of power. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely. I would just like to know if this kind of information is known by those who speak with Billy. I would assume that it is known. There is a true consciousness awakening in this world. I just hope that it is for the good of all beings. I know a very long winded explanation and question. Thank You All! Salome Rarena Member Post Number: 720 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 11:36 am:        Dear Stokley, The Plejaren claim to have several methods to enable time travel in their technology some 3000 years ahead of ours. They also claim to be millions of years ahead of us spiritually. Makes you wonder what is so important about spirituality. As far as government secrets our Swiss friend stays completely out of it. It is my understanding as far as the possiblity to change past events which have already occured, that is... it is not possible. So... without bothering Billy about subjects of which he has already commented... that is one point for you to know. Salome: Be greeted in Peace and Wisdom. Joe Member Post Number: 170 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 11:38 am:        Stokley, I too have heard Andrew D. Basiago on a few radio talk shows and I honestly think that he spreads disinformation. Sarah Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2011 Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 01:56 pm:        I agree with you somewhat Rarena. Though I still think learning to spiritually improve myself would anything but harmful. So, why not? I think it was also mentioned a big reason for that, is that you really traveling to a different bubble so to speak, a different dimension where time has not progressed. Or it could just be quantum physics mumbo jumbo. either way, lets try to focus on improving the future, so we wont have to worry about changing the past.:D Memo00 Member Post Number: 538 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 05:30 pm:        Hi Stokley Those things said in the radio show are nonsense. The governments indeed manipulate the population through the media, but they do not have the technology to travel through time. Even if you had a time machine right now you wouldn´t be able to change anything. This alone proves that story is nothing more than lies. Salome (peace) Stokley New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Friday, November 18, 2011 - 07:47 pm:        Thank You all for your responses. I appreciate them and will take them into consideration. I understand that the whole point is to strive for spiritual enlightenment, knowledge and wisdom and I agree that we as humans on earth have a very long way to go. The point of my post was really to put forth a scenario in which people may have been manipulated to get to a certain outcome in time. Just assume that what Andrew says in true. I am having some doubts, but assume it is. I am not talking about changing past events, I am speaking of changing possible futures. If the consciousness of humans can be manipulated by those in power, then it only stands to reason that the future could be manipulated as well by those in power. If what Andrew said is true and the Chronovisor could show various possible futures, then the powerful elite could, in fact, manipulate the masses through the media and staged events to get a certain future to come into existence. Andrew did state that the Chronovisor did not necessarily show possible futures on our timeline, but to him they were possibly alternate timelines. I know I should really concentrate on the spiritual aspect of all things, but with the troubling times we are in and the troubling times I feel are soon to come, I am concerned about my family and all humans on this planet. I find myself contemplating over physical issues constantly. I suppose I am like the majority of human beings on this planet, consumed with the worries and distractions of the physical world and not concentrating on the knowledge and wisdom of the spiritual. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I will strive for Peace within. Thank You all once again. Rob Edward Member Post Number: 2286 Registered: 05-2002 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 01:19 am:        Hi Rob (Stokley).... Welcome to the FIGU board. If your mentioned would Manipulate our Future TO BE, it would be by influence of those so-called Psychics and what nots; whom have close relations with US presidents, etc. I have read information in the past, that there are/were indeed, such individuals Manipulating the US leaderships into taking such-and-such actions because the so-called Psychic envisioned this-and-that, which...could just as well be their Imagination, or just their MINDS playing games with them, etc. We should be Cautious, with any such individuals whom present them in such manner you mentioned, and others, alike. The disadvantage of such individuals are that a president would take their word literally and indeed take action and of course CHANGE our Future TO BE. In many cases, it would be initiating a WAR which is only based on the words of that so-called Psychic. Thus, Warmongering in such fashion...would only 'distort' the True Future To Be, based on the LIES of that so-called Psychic or whatever they wish to call themselves. This only makes our world a Greater Mess...than it is in! PEACE negotiations IS The Way, and NOT such individuals whom call themselves Psychics, or what not....[Still, too many Wannabees around, alas to say... which make Life even more worse...due to their 'foul' practice.] As long as there is NO Authentic Proof of their abilities we should dismiss such individuals, and what they claim. Pleasant Studying... Edward. Thomas57 Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 12-2009 Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 10:54 am:        The various commentaries on "time" traveling are all based upon the awareness and point-of-reference of each one, individually. The choosing of a measurement, determines the outcome of that measurement, as the quantum wave-partical duality experiments show, repeatedly. What each one determines to be their wanted goal, usually comes about - if only by intention. "Traveling" in time, is easily done - just image a place where you are more mature than you are now - then ask yourself, what is it that you would do, either differently, or tell yourself what you succeeded in. Meditation can help you to connect to your 'core', Creationary 'self', and giving yourself advice, allows you to begin to trust yourself. Many on this forum have shown me that they rely much upon those outside of themselves, and while advice from venerable ones ought to be considered, knowing yourself is a goal, I, prefer. Did not Creation give you all that was necessary to exist within Itself? Are you not capable of choosing, based upon your own lessons and causes-effects? I have "talked" to my more futuristic, wiser self, through this method, connecting through time to the "I" that exists. Does that make things self-delusional - or . . . does it exercise the portion of what timelessness allows each of us to access? "Time-travel", is movement within a 3-dimensional 'place' where all possibilities exist. Spacial travel is movement within past, present and future. Simple ideas, but possible to determine personal advice, without so much interference with another's opinion. What do you think? T57 Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 586 Registered: 03-2007 Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 05:29 pm:        Hi Thomas 57 I have both read about and heard from other people the method you describe and several variations to it; whereby, one goes into a meditative state and has imaginary conversations with a wise being – sometimes taking the form of a past historical figure, like Einstein or Abraham Lincoln; or, other times taking the form of a spirit guide like a “guardian angel” or their “higher self” as is popular in some New Age circles. In your case, you have selected a character you are more comfortable with – yourself. As valid and useful as the technique may be to you, it is technically speaking not time travel. The information or advice you are receiving is available to you now in the present and you yourself are not going to the future to retrieve it nor is your future self traveling back in time to give it to you. It is merely a fanciful form of role playing which allows you to assume a character that is more objective and wiser than you perceive yourself to be now. Regards Bob Mahigitam Member Post Number: 470 Registered: 02-2009 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 07:09 am:        CR 31(UCV-Uncensored version) pg 358 Ptaah: 57. First when Asket came in contact with us and we got by the DAL race the possibilities for constructing of time travel appratuses and equipments, we succeeded in such sort of travel. 58. This was before 4 years from earthly determination of time, while you had done already 7 years ago the first travel to an earlier time, together with Asket and your friend. 7 years ago from 1975(time of contact) means 1968 which is not correct from the info that; Billy, Asket and Jitchi travelled back in time in 1953 which is 22 years ago from 1975 ? Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon Mahigitam Member Post Number: 474 Registered: 02-2009 Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 08:57 pm:        http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/bulletin/2004/nr-46/prophetien 7th page "BEAM describes several journeys into the past, as an advisor to King Louis IX, in which a witness once had even flown.". This is something new. Does it mean that Billy went back in time and worked as an advisor ? Who(witness) has flown with BIlly ? Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon Smukhuti Member Post Number: 624 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 09:31 pm:        Probably bad translation. He did not worked as an advisor, but met an advisor. "When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." - Carl Jung

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