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Memo00
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Post Number: 576
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 07:25 am: | 
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Jedaiah, do you mean videogames or gambling?
I donīt know what Plejaren say but Billy has said that playing videogames in which you kill persons makes it easier that you can pull a trigger in real life. He explains that every human has in himself a certain something (sorry i donīt remember the exact words) that prevents us from killing other human beings, but by constantly killing in a videogame this "natureīs security measure" is "loosened". Obviously that doesnīt mean that by playing certain games you will become an assassin but if you end somehow in a situation where you have a gun pointing at another person there is more probability that you will pull the trigger.
Apart from that i would say videogames in general have also positive things (can improve concentration, reflexes, imagination, are in a way a mix of many "arts" like literature, music, painting, movies, etc), taken that one is not addicted to them. (one thing that also Billy has mentioned is that Earthlings are currently addicted to entertainment)
Salome |
Lemontree
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 12:38 am: |
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From my experience playing video games I think there's more cons than pros. I was just thinking about all this recently. Here's my rant:
All happened to me
Cons:
-Can waste huge amounts of your time... cuz you try to win.
-Make you angry, frustrated, nervous.
-You can loose your peace and happiness when things go wrong: game stops working, pc crashes and loads other problems... or you simple can't win.
-With anger you can destroy stuff or blame your pet or something.
-If it's a shooting game: makes you overall less peaceful, etc during your entire day.
-If it's a sports game: It's all about competition which Plejaren has eliminated already long time ago. So in my opinion best we start eliminating it today.
-Health issues: Eye health, headaches, sitting down for too long and on and on (depends how much time you spend)
Pros: Increases reflexes, and imagination, etc they say.
So I'd rather do some other activity. Probably Billy won't recommend playing video games but I don't know. all this is what I think. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2545
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 01:53 am: |
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Hi Guys...
No, I have no idea what Billy or the Plejarans think of gaming.
Myself, if it is within the framework of WAR, I would not really advise it.
Shooting that people, etc., destroying property, and go so on: Not my bag of
fun.
If the video game is within the framework of say, shooting a duck, which is
like at a fair, or whatever target, than it would be ok...is my opinion.
I mean, shooting at something that is NOT real is more satisfying than
something that is based on real imaging, I would think.
Personally, I find those WAR games...very degrading. There is just too much
realism...in it. Which can be quite disturbing for the Psyche: Consciously or
Unconsciously.
To me, shooting a pea/pellet rifle/gun, at can is more fun...than those video
games with WAR like scenarios. And, can just be as 'Meditative' in that state
of mind. Like those Japanese bow and arrow Meditative exercises. As I did in
the past. Which is very relaxing for the Psyche. I mostly, come to rest after
such session.
Thus, the above just mentioned can be MORE beneficial...than those WAR games.
Again, this is just my opinion and experience.
Edward. |
Jedaiah
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 12:59 pm: |
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I meant in general for all type of gaming including sports, gambling, chess and online / offline console and or computer gaming. So, the works. I am glad to hear your opinions because they are similar to mine. I cannot get into detail of mine right now but I will follow up a response on it when I get the time. |
Skyrim
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 03:28 pm: |
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I'm an avid player of the popular fantasy role playing game called Skyrim. It doesn't have guns in it, instead swords, axes, bows and arrows and also magic spells and potions. I like it so much I made it my username. I know what the Plejaren have said about gaming and its negative effects on some people but its not enough to change my mind because I know I'm stable and not a nutter. I also enjoy playing car racing games against other people/players over the internet. Its all good fun for me.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim
phil |
Jedaiah
Member
Post Number: 17
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 04:26 am: |
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It is fully possible for games to enhance concentration, thinking, creativity and imagination. However, these aspects are countered not by game design, but rather game basis. The basis of modern day games is the following:
KILL
DESTROY
DAMAGE
WIN
LOSE
The issue with this thinking is that is highly barbaric and dangerous to a progressive society. I personally, LOVE number calculations and using math to boost or improve my character(s) on a game. That part is what thrills me. Which is why, by default, I have been the best (#1) at any game I have played. Simply because I play it for a different purpose: Calculus and mechanics.
Now the issue to be realized can be solved if gaming aspects were to be changed. Numbers and other engaging calculative methods (or even swinging a sword) can be swapped for other consciousness-progressive ideals.
Example that comes to mind can be something such as a space age game that focuses on the building of space craft and visits to different planets or civilizations. The amount of math or calculus that can be added to this is limitless. Spore came close to this ideal, but was countered by barbaric thinking of universal currency exchange.
Why does gaming have to be so unnecessarily competitive? Competition is unevolved and in no way beneficial or productive. It houses a winner and a loser. No in-betweens. This is speaking from someone who has been the top in every single game I have played.
So with this in mind, I am under the impression that gaming can indeed be used for something very productive. However, the BASE design is around a depraved consciousness aspect of violence, sex and horror. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 590
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 10:20 am: |
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> It's about 20 years ago or so since I saw the first primitive video games. At that time I remarked to a woman whose son was playing them that they looked to me to be a means of preparation of young people for military training, i.e. for pilots, gunners, etc., a way of depersonalizing killing people. |
Verlanis
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 12:19 pm: |
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Stimulation of the reptilian portion of the brain is the entire point of most games that appear for the commercialized masses. This is what determines most areas of fun, being in fear while knowing you are perfectly safe. It is those games that sell well. Gaming in excess is a phenomenon that is recent for Earth history, and is abused by the mind manipulator's for programming purposes to maintain a constant fear mentality in the subconscious of the gullible masses.
Sadly, most games are designed to inhibit thinking except for instinctual reactions.
Creation does not play dice, but it does provide the game. The point of the Game is to ignore the game and learn about the mechanics while simultaneously enjoying the Game.
Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key.
I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored.
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Skyrim
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 03:19 pm: |
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Jedaiah, I can see where your coming from and what you mean there, and I have to agree on some of those points.
However not everyone is out to win. I'm always being beaten to the finish line in car racing games against other people and it doesn't bother me one bit because I thoroughly enjoy playing regardless of where I come. Its all fun.
With the Skyrim game, its not all about hacking and slashing foes. Most of the game is actually taken up by missions which involve solving puzzles, some quite complex and hard to figure out. Skyrim is more of a thinking game.
But your right about most games being so unnecessarily competitive. I assume most people will say thats where the fun lies, in winning.
phil |
Jedaiah
Member
Post Number: 18
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2012 - 04:50 am: |
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I have played at Gladiator levels in WoW and was arguably the best warrior in the US. I have experienced the heat of competition from the greatest aspect of the gaming world. Playing in WoW's arena at top tier levels is like a dance. It is insanely stressful yet enjoyable at the exact same time. You are engaged in such a way that you MUST destroy the enemy team, or you will be destroyed. The amount of pressure it enforces on you can be compared to someone choking you and pleasuring you at the same time. Intoxicating atmosphere, really.
The mass concentration and skill required for syncing so well, especially with other players is nothing short of admirable. However, the basis is so devoid that it just naturally makes players hostile toward eachother.
PvP (Player vs Player) is what I have grown up on. PvE (Player vs Environment) in my eyes housed no 'sport' and only the 'weak' did it. PvPers generally look down on PvErs because they seem them as cowards or 'carebears'. Too weak to engage in the REAL competition. I should know, I was a hardcore PvPer since childhood.
I've always known that it housed a duality. On one end, it's great for concentration, calculation etc. On the other, it turns you into, well... a beast. There is no form of friendly competition on these mediums. It is impossible. People are out to destroy each other. What's worse was the environment of just walking next to an enemy team you just win or lost against. You could feel it, even behind your computer, the hostility. The negative energy emitting.
And this goes on today, even past virtual gaming. Sports, too, suffers from the same deluded mentality of 'competition'. That's absolute nonsense. Both the gaming world and physical world alike are turning to corpocracy. It's not even about truth or advancement anymore. People want dogshit, they are fed dogshit. This even extends past games and goes into media: movies, books, songs, TV, etc.
(Billy was 100% right about people liking too much entertainment.)
What horrifies me is the fact that I have had to 'sneak' messages of evolution into my work for people to understand or slowly accept. What do people want in this age? Certainly not progression.
Here's what they want:
Violence, sex, horror, 'supernatural', fantasy, myth, 'unknown', mind-looping-stagnating idiocy, emotionally-charged nonsense, political and religious heresy etc etc.
All controlled by an insane self-created god known as 'money'.
The world we live in.
Take a bow.
/Rant off |
Jedaiah
Member
Post Number: 20
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2012 - 05:06 am: |
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Also, Verlanis, yes that last line was well said.
Skyrim, I understand that, but this is just my share from a former highly competitive player. |
Skyrim
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 12:42 am: |
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Jedaiah, I have to agree with you on most of those points.
Added to money should be army I think, like what MH referred to above. Its a form of military training. That's what I think of when I look at the biggest selling games which are always the "first person shooter" games, like "Call of Duty" and "Battlefield" series of games to name two. And there are many others. People go nuts about fps games!
I played WoW (World of Warcraft) for a while when it was first released back in 2001. I found it highly addictive because it's a similar fantasy world game like Skyrim, only WoW is played with other people online. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2559
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 01:05 am: |
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Hi Michael and Jedaiah....
Michael:
Right....
Yeah, speaking of...Natural Barbarism!
I think kids have a better perspective in life than just to play with such
(Mind) Destructive games.
"Let a kid be a kid"...and NOT a Killer, no?
Jedaiah:
Of course, in whatever sport or games, etc, we must learn to cope with
Winning and Loosing, etc; part of our daily Evolution. We can not...avoid
this Natural Creational law/property.
But, we can acquire it through much better means, than through Destructive
and Degenerated ways(/games), or whatever.
LOOK around you: There are politicians whom are playing their Degenerated WAR
Games...in (our) Reality, similar to the video games. Pity. And they are far
astray from the Creational Laws and Commandments/Recommendations.
Thus, with any...sports or games, etc: adapting the Creational Laws and
Commandments/Recommendations would be very appropriate, I would think.
If this is not...the case, only a more Confused Mind/Psyche will arise, due,
to his/her own Ignorance. No one else to blame....but themselves!!
We are responsible....for OWN Actions....
Edward. |
Skyrim
Member
Post Number: 43
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 04:07 pm: |
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Proof of the USA's Army involvement in funding and producing many first person shooter games for the purpose of recruitment. These games cost millions to produce and were given away for free.
America's Army
"America's Army (also known as AA or Army Game Project) is a series of video games and other media developed by the United States Army and released as a global public relations initiative to help with recruitment. America's Army was conceived by Colonel Casey Wardynski and is managed by the U.S. Army's Office of Economic and Manpower Analysis at the United States Military Academy. Wardynski envisioned "using computer game technology to provide the public a virtual Soldier experience that was engaging, informative and entertaining."
The PC version 1.0, subtitled Recon, was first released on July 4, 2002. Since then, there have been over 26 versions released, the most recent being America's Army 3.3. All versions have been developed on the Unreal Engine and use PunkBuster to try to prevent cheating. The game is financed by the U.S. government and distributed by FREE download."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Army
I once downloaded one of these games to try because they were free but I uninstalled it that same day because I don't like playing fps games much. Too much killing and blood and guts for my liking.
I wonder if the Plejaren have said anything about the push for fps games in the contact notes?
phil |
Jedaiah
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 02:58 am: |
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In general, it is truly up to the individual to decide what is right or wrong and be responsible for the actions they commit. However, that does not justify corporate greed and control in these mediums nor does it solve the case of depravity found in these mediums.
Edward,
I was not talking about it effecting me personally, but your points remains valid. My concern is for the unaware person who indulges in these activities. Especially using it as an escape. I have ran into hundreds of people in online games, real games and other mediums. They are clueless to the influences that come their way. The worst part is that they are not connected to one's self, so they do not share these outlooks you or I have. They see life one-dimensionally limited. It's not their fault in their eyes. Same thing the corporates would believe.
It's a messy ball, really, if you sit back to think about it. No one assumes responsibility.
Note: (By default I have a heart for humanity. My of my posts are generally impersonal, despite using personal points to relate.)
Skyrim,
I never even knew such a thing existed... but lol. I am not surprised. |
Lemontree
Member
Post Number: 14
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 01:42 am: |
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If you know how to control yourself a game is just a game. |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 194
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 05:44 am: |
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If you know how to control yourself, you can meditate on peace in the middle of a battlefield. Theoretically it's possible, but realistically less so, all the more so when you are engaged in killing people.
Don't wanna believe me? Try it for yourself.
Life
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 2566
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 12:59 am: |
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Hi Jedaiah....
Thank you, for the understanding.
Yes, the individuals are just plain old Ignorant, which they can not be
blamed for, just like many other aspects in life(: Religion, Superstition,
etc...).
Sure, I can understand - WHAT state of Mind - an individual would manifest
him-/herself, in....which again, can be led back to their Ignorance/
Unknowingness.
Not all individuals, come out of it 'sound in mind', so to speak. And, which
we have to take into account. [As I mentioned previously: Affecting (s)he...
Consciously/Directly or Unconsciously/Indirectly; Psyche related.]
"Even a sane mind can go berserk", as the saying goes....
Edward. |
Jedaiah
Member
Post Number: 31
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 04:53 am: |
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Swapping topics here a bit now:
Has anyone actually thought about how much the Plejaren has done for us? These people are NOT obligated to help us in any shape, form or fashion, yet they took the stress upon themselves: a self-selected task to spread the most valuable information to us, earthlings. The spiritual truths.
Would you go out and help a society so barbaric as ours? How patient would one have to be...
I think about what these people have done and I am so grateful. These are what I would call true humanitarians, our bigger brothers and sisters. |
Melissa
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 01-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 06:49 am: |
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Hi Jedaiah,
I have gone through that thought process, and it is a helpful learning experience to process different aspects of a topic.
I also remind myself that even though I have no knowledge of the Plejaren even existing, the concepts and learning processes are still available for me, to practice, to learn from, to progress from, to witness actual progress within my own evolution, and to eventually obtain more knowledge of topics I am only just now exploring, from now till the-never-ending-story.
I do think, that this time in history is a momentous time, of high importance and of great value. I do think of myself as being fortunate to be able to participate in such an event passively and actively. Is it such a coincidence that we are all here at this time, especially those of us on the forum? Probably not. All I know is what I think, which is (like Jedaiah) gratitude for today.
-Melissa
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 2575
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 01:17 am: |
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Hi Jedaiah and Melissa....
Interesting input!
As to what I can remember, is, that the Plejarans DO feel some obligation to
help us due to WHAT their fellow Plejarans have committed in the past, which
is also...the out-come, we are in, today.
So, we had Ischwischs and Ischfischs...; one trying to help us and one trying
to enslave us, and what not.
Thus, the last one is to blame for the many negative scenarios which played
part here on Earth.
Thus, the Ischwisch Plejarans have done their best to 'assist' us in any
shape or form, possible. And, so...the bringing anew of The Spirit(ual)
Teaching(s) through Billy, is quite a PLUS...for Earth humanity (and Beyond),
I would say!!
Edward. |
Matthew
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 02:52 am: |
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Dear forum members,
I have a query in regards to Sfath's ship that he used in 1944 to meet young Eduard for the first time. In Wendelle Stevens' book, "Message from the Pleiades, Vol. 1", Sfath's ship is described as being both "pear-shaped" and "pearl-like" in appearance. As the words, "Pear" and "Pearl" are so similar in the English language, I am wondering if these descriptions were confused?
Prior to his conscious contact with Sfath, the young Eduard describes seeing a glowing sphere in the sky and as such would more closely match the 'pearl' description of Sfath's ship. I've searched the forum in order to clarify this but did not find any relevant information. If anyone has a definite answer to this it would save me having to submit a question to Billy.
Salome,
Matthew |
Thomas
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Post Number: 95
Registered: 08-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 10:01 am: |
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Hi Matthew, it was a pear shaped ship and there is an illustration of it in one of the photo books produced by FIGU. The Illustration shows a very much pear shaped ship with Sfath coming out of it on a levitating platform which is also confirmed in the text accompanying the illustration.
As I recall, there were four telescoping legs and they each terminated in a round landing pad.
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