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Edward
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Post Number: 2672
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael...


Your: with the help of the Christian religion, to subju- gate the Earth,
rather smaller powers and various malignant sects, = whereby one such really
malignant one leads back to a certain Ron = Hubbard."


Ron Hubbard, Scientology Founder L. Ron Hubbard....I take it.

Does it mean, that perhaps the Scientology...will take her stance, in this
destructive scenario? Looks, like it....?

THEY, are VERY Christian and do want world dominance...


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2673
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Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All....

Yes, Israel/Nathanyahu...should/must STOP building those settlements.

He knows the 'weakness' of Hamas and others. Just by 'OK-ing' those
settlements...Nathanyahu KNOWS...Hamas and others will strike back at
Israel!!

So, Nathanyahu, is doing this Consciously! Just to start a WAR! Even, if it
costs, some of his OWN...people.

Than, he can say: SEE....Hamas, is at it again!

So, it is all: Premeditated, what Nathanyahu does!

Quite, a MAD MAN, I would say!


The settlements are a fracture....in UN and other agreed...Negotiations
Agreements. So, by LAW, what Nathanyahu is doing, is AGAINST, all Official
Agreements!!

Breaking those laws, is a: Criminal Offence!!

Just makes Nathanyahu, another War Mongering....Criminal!!

He is just playing it all....HOW HE wants to play it. And, this way, he gets
all the RIGHT Extremist Israelis on his side!!

Nathanyahu could be committing Suicide, here!!??

He may indeed: Fulfill...the Prophecy??

The destruction of Israel!!


Edward.
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Historeed
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 - 05:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pope Benedict XVI is stepping down as of February 28th. "Petrus Romanus" is set to follow him as pope according to the prophesy. We shall see what happens.
Matthew Reed
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 190
Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 - 03:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day Blake_p

i sure am neutral positive Blake_p eh eh

if Ferbon is an adult so can reply himself dont you think mate, but if we all want to jump in and take sides its doing what you say not to do

your neutral positiveness;) your post goes on about a terrible planet and all the way to world leaders but its not neutral positive

if you had also said: its a wonder of The Creation, so is everything in it, ((we need to recognize the wisdom of The Creation for WHATEVER happens)). Reverence and Venerability

then your post would be neutral positive

my comments to Ferbon aka votan was not just one post, as a whole i was neutral positive
e.g.
http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/show.cgi?tpc=863&post=64334#POST64334

blake_p its telling you dont mention this quote ferbon made:

"this "sign" would be the first thing that came true in decades"

and YOU say ferbon is telling the truth!

From ADAM to OMEDAM post was also for ferbon its very positive

I always raise my view, recognize all possibilities and am a positive thinker,if someone wants to sow weeds i will have something to say guaranteed

if you think i was to rough ferbon just say so, but look at my posts as a whole, if my intent is not clear then let me know

ferbon/votan/blake_p you might have noticed or like to know i mostly avoid the forum so i have more time for Beams teaching as its more productive but i pay a visit to the forum now and then to have my say and dispel any myths, please consider much of whats said on the forum is irrelevant doomsday gasbagging and you are doing that like no other, just consider spending more time on Beams work as incorrect comments are a waste of your time and others and confuses new comers

above paragraph wont win a popularity contest will it? sometimes there is no nice way to say something so Aussies just say it, its kinder

people either tell you what you want to hear or people tell the truth, i know what i want so feel free to give Truth to me, anyone

try not to be in doomsday thinking folks , how many ways will you say how doomed you are! Really, you know who you are, so many posts, some of you have been doing it for years, its well documented and shows how little you read Beams work but have plenty of time to repeat your doomed and how bad you have it!

as Yoda says:
"Fear not for the future, weep not for the past."

ferbon aka votan i am not on the forum to win some popularity award

I always raise my view, recognize all possibilities and am a positive thinker, i can go into more detail if you like

Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Indi
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Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 - 05:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please get back to the topic


There is no value in discussing the good/bad/strengths/weaknesses etc. of each other and only takes away from the topic and the point to this forum.

Salome
Robyn
Denken Sie für sich selbst!
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 07-2012
Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm just wondering why let a post that tries to personally go at somebody get posted, and then not let somebody reply. First, my post was blown out of proportion and misunderstood/taken out of context,then i try to get educated by a self appointed expert on the spiritual teaching. Telling anyone to "wake up" is hardly constructive or full of any educational purpose,that's not an opinion it's just a personal jab.

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Hi Blake
Sometimes the decisions that the moderators make will appear to be unfair, or not appropriate etc.. however, from this end, it can sometimes be difficult to be all things to all people and thus a line has to be drawn.

I am sorry that is was your reply where the line was drawn but it has happened now.

If everyone here would stick to discussing the teaching and the topics and not each other it would be a more useful forum for the current members and the future ones.

Part of the teaching that can be found in the Kelch der Wahrheit, indicates that we don't always have to reply or have the last word, and just because someone says something about us that may not be true or is only one perspective of many possibilities, that is a reflection of the other person and their own journey and level of consciousness development, and it is not always necessary to respond.





(Message edited by indi on February 20, 2013)
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Rintintin
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Post Number: 48
Registered: 04-2012
Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2013 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi...

According to the sources of figu, how many world wars have occurred in planet earth?
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 95
Registered: 07-2012
Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2013 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rintintin;

Probably to many to count, plus it depends on how you would categorize or what exactly constitutes a war. I'm sure somebody will correct me cause i'm not sure the exact figures but will put it to the best of my recollection, Billy said out of the last ten thousand years that we have only had sixty years of real peace. At least that's what i recall,it being a horrendous ratio. I will try and look back and see what he exactly said. I'm sure somebody will clear that up,pretty sad either way.
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Sarah
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Posted on Friday, March 08, 2013 - 04:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

However, in order to actually count as a world war, every country in the world has to actually be fighting a separate country in the world. Small skirmishes like civil wars are not actually world wars.
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, March 11, 2013 - 02:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Rintintin...


We have had, THREE already!

So, the next one acome'n could be: WW FOUR.


Edward.
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 97
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Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry,
After discussing it with Michael Horn this past weekend at his study group,the correct numbers for the years of peace in the last ten thousand years were 250/260. So if you think along those lines then,countless wars,and then you could even go back to all the extraterrestrial scirmishes since 389,000 yrs ago,that's a lot.
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 98
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Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes sorry i originally didn't see world wars when i made that statement, but i wanted to correct those numbers, so yes as Edward said, 3 going on 4 world wars.
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Sarah
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Post Number: 225
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Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea I wouldnt argue there were wars. Unfortunately war is sort of part of human nature. (At least Earth human nature. Beginning evolutionary level.)
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Hendrikus1970
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Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i found a intresting artical about the Arctic resources !
‘US anti-missile reshuffle, really, aimed at control over Arctic resources’
The primary goal of the US plans to bolster missile defense in Alaska isn’t about tackling a North Korean threat, but putting a claim on the natural resources of the Arctic, former MI5 intelligence officer, Annie Machon, explained in an interview RT.
http://rt.com/op-edge/us-amd-korea-arctic-371/
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hendrikus1970...


That you should mention it!


I watched, that on TV the other day, of HOW rich in resources the Arctic is!

They are really, attempting to Mislead the people...once, again!


Edward.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Regarding the Arctic, Meier foretold the troop movements in that direction in 1987 and specifically mentioned that numerous countries would vie for the resources…in our film "as the time fulfills".
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 613
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 06:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael

Michael could we be mistaken in our interpretation of Billy's information at some point in time just as Billy and the Plejaren's are at time with there's

cheers
matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 616
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael

Michael wasn't it the currency war that sparked this eventual war precipitated by the grab for resources that eventually led to the coming world war 4?

cheers
Matt Lee
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Jacob
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Registered: 02-2013
Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Something to ponder about when it comes to war:

Right now, at this moment these wars/conflicts are raging on this planet:

- Internal conflict in Burma: 210,000/12000 dead in 2012
- Colombia conflict 600,000
- Conflict in Afghanistan 1,845,600 / 8,398 in 2012
- Somali Civial war 500,000
- War in North-West Pakistan 46,675 / 6,211 in 2012 / 1,539 in 2013
- Mexican Drug war 100,000 / 18,161 by nov. 2012
- Sudanese nomadic conflicts 5,641 / 3,200 in 2012
- Syrian civil war 70,502 / 41,903 in 2012
- Iraq insurgency (post-US) 5,297 / 4.568 in 2012

Then there are the following conflicts:
Kurdish-Iranian conflict, Arab-Israel, Balochistan conflict, Nigerian Sharia conflict, Papua conflict, Insurgency in Northeast India, Naxalit-Maoist insurgency, internal conflict in Peru, Kurdish-Turkish conflict, etc. Etc. Etc. Etc.

These are just a few of the ongoing conflicts worldwide, the data was retreived from wikipedia and I am assuming these figures are most likely incorrect and low.

In my own opinion, the world is at war all the time, nobody can remember a time when the world experienced global peace.

In so-called western society we live usually comfortable lives, but in my opinion we should think of every life which is cut short and spiritform 'catapulted' in the beyond before its time by hands of murderers and soldiers.

This has enormous negative effects on the whole fabric of Earth human society, most people have no clue about.
Salome,
Jacob

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 113
Registered: 07-2012
Posted on Monday, April 01, 2013 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thought this was interesting,in the Q and A,asked by Bruce;

When Billy recently asked Ptaah about the prophecy regarding „the last Pope“ and the ensuing „Weltenbrand“, Ptaah said that concerning this (prophecy) many things have changed to the better and that for the the time being (vorderhand) there’s no sign that the prophecy will be fulfilled. (555th contact of March 2, 2013).

That was a note by CF, looks like things might be turning the corner a bit,and i say that loosely,considering all the woes that still endure throughout the world,but still very good news that we might be on the path to at least not destroy each other in the worst way,respectively WW3 or 4 whichever you prefer. Cant wait to read that contact,hopefully somebody will translate pretty quick considering the latest relevance.
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Skyrim
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Post Number: 83
Registered: 06-2012
Posted on Monday, April 01, 2013 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,

What about this trouble that North Korea is stirring up? Is this all huff and puff or could it lead to something? Anything in the notes about WW3 that relates to North Korea?

phil
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Edward
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Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Phil....

Some interesting insight to the history of the mentioned, North and South
Korean...AND USA Intimidations.


Excerpts


Reader Questions Regarding Our Nuclear Heritage


Q: How often have atomic bombs been utilized?

(Snip).................

The Americans were the first to detonate a nuclear bomb. They were also the
first to utilize this all-destructive bomb in war, killing hundreds of
thousands of people in the process without ever having any concern or remorse
about it. If American generals had their way, additional nuclear bombs would
have been dropped, since other high-ranking American military officials
wanted to criminally end the wars in Korea and Vietnam by dipping into
their vast arsenal of all-destructive, all-annihilating nuclear weaponry.


Others...

Baghdad represents no clear and present danger to its neighbours, and none to
the US or Britain. Saddam's weapons of mass destruction, if he's still got
them, will be peanuts by comparison with the stuff Israel or America could
hurl at him at five minutes' notice. What is at stake is not an imminent
military or terrorist threat, but the economic imperative of US growth. What
is at stake is America's need to demonstrate its military power to all of
us - to Europe and Russia and China, and poor mad little North Korea, as well
as the Middle East; to show who rules America at home, and who is to be ruled
by America abroad.


and...

But there is the oil. Iraq is one of the world's biggest oil-producers; this
is a fact. And, America is largely dependent on crude oil from other
countries as her own reserves are small. One of the reasons for Bush and
America to make war on Iraq and to overthrow Saddam Husain is to secure
access to one of the biggest oil wells of the world. And America will go to
any length to reach her aim, using the assistance of Iraqi politicians in
exile and collaborators in Iraq, who can always be found and are prepared to
collaborate with America for their own purpose to form a democratic
government of their own - which is doubtful - in order to rule in an evil and
irresponsible manner in the end. They get their instructions to achieve just
that, respectively from the American Ambassador, the American Secret Service
or directly from Washington. And really the craving of Bush and America
for war with Iraq has neither to do with the establishing of democracy nor
establishing human rights. North Korea proves this alone, by ordering the
UN-controllers to leave the country and in North Korea's continuation of a
nuclear weapons-program. Fortunately for the North Koreans, the USA answers
with diplomacy (still), for North Korea has no oil fields and no other
important raw materials worthwhile for Bush and America to seize by measures
of war and to bring the country under her protection.



The above mentioned does give us an idea WHY North Korea is 'On Guard'; and,
will always be. The US, has been conducting War Exercises, the last months,
and, of course, North Korea feel Intimidated. And, South Korea and US,
conduct more such War Exercises, than North Korea does. Thus, SOMEONE, is
really Provoking...North Korea.

Would probably not lead to WW3, though. But, whom an I to say 'NO(t)'.....??


Edward.
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Skyrim
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Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,

Thanks for that!

I don't blame North Korea for being on guard from the West, but I'm hoping they don't push things too far for fear of WW3 starting.

I don't like how the US and its allies pushed all these sanctions on North Korea for getting nuclear weapons. I know the less number of countries that have nuclear weapons the better but in a sense I don't blame North Korea for getting them out of self defense.

The United Nations should have first imposed sanctions on Israel for having illegal nuclear weapons for all these years before ever imposing sanctions on North Korea. But as we know, the United Nations is a farce.

phil

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