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    Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 307 Registered: 09-2011 |
Certainly I have made my share of mistakes and had to revise my thinking a number times during my time on this forum. No doubt that will continue. That said, both you and I may very well get the opportunity to see firsthand the results of blind integration of disparate groups of peoples irrespective of their vibes, culture, psychological make up, or any other characteristics. People are different from one another, both as individuals and in groups, regardless of how we may want to ignore this annoying little factoid. We can't mould our world into a more fair place by simply forcing everyone to live and work together, no matter how much our Propaganda-Masters find their profit in it. (Well, we can try, but I think that's callous, to say the least.) Increasing population pressures and de facto open border policies are pushing parts of Europe and the United States into ever more Balkanization along ideological, cultural, and racial lines. Has such a pattern of societal development leading to conflicts and even war been mentioned in the Meier material? I thought it had, but perhaps my interpretation of Meier's statements result from my small mindedness, limited scope and vision, complete ignorance, and backwards thinking. If so, I apologize for playing the devil's advocate, or the slow and inept learner. I enjoy as much as anybody else the ideal of everybody getting along, everybody intermingling and growing from the best of their respective societies, resulting in an integrated society which is both positive and creative. The best way to approach this, IMHO, is by limiting immigration and slowing integration, so that less advanced societies develop their own technological and cultural maturity. I much prefer this scenario to the destructive mashup of societies that we have today. Life | ||
Skyrim Member Post Number: 96 Registered: 06-2012 |
"Certainly I have made my share of mistakes and had to revise my thinking a number times during my time on this forum. No doubt that will continue." Hi Micheal, Same here! I think one of the most important lessons I've learned so far studying the Meier material as well as being at this forum is to be truthful with oneself and acknowledge ones mistakes and wrong patterns of thinking. phil | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 518 Registered: 08-2010 |
Gargindia, I respect your decision on how and when you will study the Goblet of Truth. The following quote (your post #25) brought to mind a verse in the Goblet I think you (and all of us) may want to consider and , perhaps contemplate its plausible potential wisdom. (quote) "Eddie - I have not yet read 'Goblet of truth'. I would like to read it in its original version after learning German language." The following advise of the prophets is equal to each and everyone of us. Goblet of Truth chapter 11 verse 9. 9) Learn the truth if it becomes obvious (recognizable) to you, and do not put off learning the truth until a certain time, because if you do this then you are holding yourselves back and you will never arrive at the day when you really turn yourselves to the truth; if you set yourselves a date for when you want to start with your learning of the truth, then, by doing so, you already turn yourselves away from the truth and mock it, since if you do not instantly (at the moment/immediately) start the learning then you will never do it because truly it is the same as someone who says that he is going to make a journey but never makes the preparations for it and sits in his dwelling doing nothing. Salome, Eddie Chapters 1-20 in English and German. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/File:GobletOfTruth.pdf Chapters 21 to 28 in English and German. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/File:GobletOfTruthChapters21To28PreRelease.pdf | ||
Gargindia Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 05-2013 |
Eddiemartin: I must not say too much about myself, a hint is enough that I have been meditating for several life spans. I read the views here, some of them are like four years olds talking sex. Spirituality does not develop suddenly. It is not a switch that you just push on, or you become spiritual by reading a book. Reading a book (and perhaps understanding it) can be start of a journey. However each journey is filled with surprises, always remember that. It is important for Billy/Plejarens to meet the Veda expert. There are many issues regarding earth history (and other as well) that need thrashing out. We fear that Billy's effort will just go waste (like Jesus or Jmanuel) and will result in a useless new religion. We want to avoid that so that real spiritual progress can occur. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2397 Registered: 12-1999 |
Can we please return to the topic | ||
Sarah Member Post Number: 226 Registered: 10-2011 |
I was looking at some resent events on what's happening in Syria, and its quite telling they are already talking about drone attacks in other places. | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 308 Registered: 09-2011 |
I admit it. My understanding of sex and spirituality can be pretty immature at times. That's life. Life | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 521 Registered: 08-2010 |
Moderators please post this instead. The thread "Pleiadians/plejarens and the federation" I planned to respond in is locked. Thnx. Hello Gargindia, Please see my response in "Misc. Discussions on Billy Meier". Salome, Eddie | ||
Verlanis Member Post Number: 44 Registered: 10-2012 |
World War 4 is still not set in stone. There is movement abroad, ill intentions being pursued, good intentions being pursued, and mineral resources coming to light that are also being pursued. Media portrays the ever convincing story that the world is in utter chaos, but that is the furthest story from the actual story. The world is in lock-step in a drive for amazing technologies that are already present which have stellar implications and applications. The current unveiling/development of 3D printers, super-capacitors, Cold Atmospheric Plasma devices, and other proto-scifi type technologies is more a cause for wonderment than of fear. Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key. I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. -- | ||
Rintintin Member Post Number: 53 Registered: 04-2012 |
Verlanis, You forgot to mention the warp propeller that is being studied by aerospace scientists at this moment.  | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 401 Registered: 12-2009 |
Ah yes the warp drive: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/305112/scitech/technology/real-life-warp-drive-may-power-future-spaceships based on an equation from Miguel Alcubierre who was interested in Star Trek's "matter/antimatter drive". It is my understanding the one being looked @ would hypothetically create a bubble around a spaceship then allow negative energy to warp the ship. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Hawaiian Member Post Number: 161 Registered: 05-2011 |
Gargindia, Your statement: “It is important for Billy/Plejarens to meet the Veda expert. There are many issues regarding earth history (and other as well) that need thrashing out. We fear that Billy's effort will just go waste (like Jesus or Jmanuel) and will result in a useless new religion. We want to avoid that so that real spiritual progress can occur. The first part is not logical, for why should the Plejarens want to meet some Veda expert when they know for a fact that this method is immature compared to what BEAM has presented (see below, which is only one of many materials he wrote dealing with matters that go beyond the limitations of Vedas) I can understand you’re enthusiastic endeavor for presenting another form of thinking, but bear in mind there are many paths to the ocean and that some rivers have more capacity than others. The biggest river of them all is being presented by BEAM and is inheritably inclusive of other “streams and rivers” that will eventually evolve further when appropriate measures are induced along with its own unique character(s) as well. Just look at statements 4 and 5, one will eventually acknowledge that their own perception has its limitations and only become unlimited when they have “acquired” the necessary self-discipline to become materialistic transparent as not to impart any contamination to the flow of non-religious, non-material spiritual energy that is finer than any material substance including your ego Therefore, once a material being have mastered this discipline, then the next logical question has already been answered, why should this person seek contact with another material being when spiritual perception has already been established? It is this most important “journey” each material being should endeavor because being in such “state” is the merging of human-being, a human “in being” with its appropriate attributes and links. One does not need to know the Vedas or for that manner any religious doctrine or human philosophy but apply themselves with an open logical mind and perceive the wonders of the world as how an innocent child perceives their world without contamination or perceived beliefs. Many thanks to Billy and Robjna for translating this material for others to ponder on, the German original can be found on the web link listed below. Source: http://au.figu.org/content/Meditation%20and%20Meditating.pdf 1. “Especially, the liberation meditation is of very great importance because the thoughts and feelings are completely switched off through this, and one is placed in a state, which is recognized as the pure fine-spiritual perception-state of the fine-fluidal form of perception.” 2. “In this state the coarse-substantial perception is completely switched off, consequently neither one's own body nor feelings nor the environment are perceived, but only fine-substantial fine- spiritual perception” 3. “These state results in an absolute freedom from all burdens and an oneness with everything and the whole of the endlessness and timelessness, with the endless duration – the all-great-time, that is to say, the eternity, into which the meditator perceives him- or she shifted.” 4. “The actual state of freedom and of fine-spiritual perception cannot be described with words, but can be perceived and understood only according to fine-spiritual perception.” 5. “To explain this, it must be considered that a fine-spiritual-perception is a transmission from the spiritual Gemüt and has absolutely nothing to do with feelings that come from thoughts out of the consciousness realm.” | ||
Acriasis Member Post Number: 33 Registered: 08-2012 |
That aggressive gene, the barbaric nature, the over-all need to defend and empower. These kinds of thinking always have brought upon wars, for war seems to be in the current human nature. Whether it be a 'world war' involving several countries, or even a simple disagreement between two people, wars shall continue to be fought until the truth of how all things really are, is found in every corner of this planet. As long as there are still fallible ones to disrupt the flow of actual truth, wars shall continue to be fought. Even if and when another world war were to occur the truth shall still be found, even if all forms of written truth are destroyed in some cataclysm, the truth is still with all of us, right there contained within each of us as a fragment of the infinite. Every war usually starts small and can be resolved if only differences can be acknowledged and resources can be shared, instead of the 'barbaric' nature always stepping in first for domination and control before the thought of peace and actual truth is found. No matter what happens to the world in this incarnation and the next the truth shall 'be' for it is there as you and I are here and no one can take the truth from us, no matter what happens, the vast infinite mystery of Creation shall continue to sort of call to us, through that fragment of the infinite within, our spirit, that still has all the knowledge of the truth that was gained in previous incarnations. For in truth there is life and in life there is truth, for each life-form is a part of the Creational existence and when that life-form is destroyed by things such as war, a new existence and new personality is born, for in death life begins anew through the love of Creation. Saalome, Marcus _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ War, hate, crime, over-all negativity, its all the same... 'seek and destroy/overpower/control'. True life, true peace, actual knowledge of the truth in Creational existence...this is infinite in the vastness of what shall be learned, each day can be different if you follow and apply truth. | ||
Hawaiian Member Post Number: 162 Registered: 05-2011 |
Acriasis, Very true, wars are caused by barbarians, even those that traverse the stars and create the Ring Nebula is a barbarian although he obtained the rank of king of wisdom. These barbarians should be placed in a holding pattern, for they exist at the expense of others and stagnate the spiritual development of others as well. Their evolution has been predetermined by their negative endeavors so what gives them the right to predetermine the evolution of others? | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2768 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Acriasis.... We CAN NOT blame the Aggression Gene for all the wars that ever existed within Creation. The Aggression Gene, is only a application, which it there, and it is HOW the Human acts to certain confrontations, which may direct it is a certain direction. So, it is a: Neutral Application. It is up to US, WHAT we do with it in our daily Life and endeavors. The Aggression Gene, is provided in a state of a 'standard mode', so to speak. It is the HUMAN (or other Creatures), which...Alter the Gene....in the most horrible and most inhumane ways. It be through FOOD consumption, or Ignorance, False Teachings, Genetic Manipulation, Greed, Gullibleness, and go so on. So, we can NO say, that the Aggression Gene is THE CAUSE, of the WAR and World Wars, here. It is Man's OWN Ignorance, etc.... Thus, it is very Positive, that Billy brought the Creational Spirit(ual) Teaching(s) anew, so that, One can have more Control over him-/her-self, in any shape or form, etc., and guide them towards the right path of Life and Evolution; as intended by The Creation. We should see the Human Body, as a 'Neutral Instrument', if you will. Always beginning with a NEW Slate. It is THE HUMAN, that makes it WHAT it becomes!! In the end: it be Good or Bad. All the WARS....we can only blame ourselves....NOT the Gene. Thus, we should THINK...much harder and Prevent Wars. And, by preventing Wars, we leave our Aggression Gene...in her Neutral Form(at: Slumber). And, thus NOT Activate her to become Barbaric, etc...... You know the rest. Edward. | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 04-2009 |
Update of a dangerous development ! Lets hope they read The Henoch Prophecies Russia has to react as NATO moves closer to its borders - Medvedev ! Russia cannot see NATO expansion towards its borders as positive, as under certain circumstances the possibility of military confrontation remains, the Russian PM has said at the Euro-Arctic Council’s forum. When a reporter asked Dmitry Medvedev how the balance of forces in Europe will change if Sweden and Finland decide to enter NATO, the Russian Prime Minister answered that his country would have to react to such developments. http://www.theyfly.com/prophecies-predictions http://rt.com/politics/moves-closer-medvedev-borders-203/ | ||
Rintintin Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 04-2012 |
Hi... It is possible that future war will fight by famine caused by the conspiracy of bees, if we do not stop the Zionists now. The zionist package of death for USA and the World!!! 1. Disarming the American people to prevent to be defeated by an armed revolution inside USA. 2. Impunity to Monsanto to poison USA's food. Quote: On 26 March, Obama quietly signed this “Monsanto Protection Act” into law thus ensuring the American people have no recourse against this bio-tech giant as they fall ill by the tens of millions, and many millions will surely end up dying in what this MRNE report calls the greatest agricultural apocalypse in human history as over 90% of feral (wild) bee population in the US has already died out, and up to 80% of domestic bees have died out too. READ THE FULL ARTICLE: Russia Warns Obama: Global War Over “Bee Apocalypse” Coming Soon http://www.eutimes.net/2013/05/russia-warns-obama-global-war-over-bee-apocalypse-coming-soon/ They have years secretly planning a genocide inside the United States and the world by hunger and mass poisoning!!! | ||
Kbanthis Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 07-2012 |
It's 2013, there is zero need for any more wars. All the major years for those (henoch) prophecies have passed and there is no need to focus on anything but peace on earth, and among all beings! http://www.theyfly.com/The_Deadly_Might_of_Thoughts_and_Feelings.html | ||
Kbanthis Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 07-2012 |
Peace is inevitable ! I should have posted citations with the last post I had made. Not just what I had been reading , as it doesn't also contain the german text containing the code. http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/bulletin/2004/nr-46/third-world-war http://ca.figu.org/uploads/FIGU_Bulletin_VolXX_No46-excerpt.pdf http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/bulletin/figu_bulletin_46.pdf | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 298 Registered: 05-2012 |
Kbanthis Is it really that "peace is inevitable"? - Probably not in a short run. From FIGU-Bulletin Nr.46 - " ...refer to the possibility of such a war if human beings will not change and stop their political and war-like and religious insane behavior and do not make a beginning to change toward the positive in all areas." and continues with... "... if the human being continues to pursue war on a military, political and religious basis and does not apply reason and lets the mighty of religion and states muddle on, and lets the stupid and idiotic be incited by irresponsible and criminal elements." Do you see our present humanity working collectively to stop all that lead to war? Prophecies are also lessons to be learned and reflect upon. Salome | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 532 Registered: 10-2009 |
When Hilary Clinton admitted the U.S. finances Al-Quaida, should the name not be changed to Al-CIAduh? Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 136 Registered: 07-2012 |
This is a more encouraging sign; While political posturing is always inevitable,at least Xi is familiar with how America is since he grew up here,in Iowa,but also since our economies are tied in significantly together now. But in relation to Billy's words, and how this could relate to the prophecy of the fourth WW,when he spoke about Russia and China becoming closer all the time maybe Obama and Xi can change the tide. Obviously these are just talks that happen quite often by world leaders but still is encouraging some of the topics discussed,and the length of those discussions, I guess we can only hope. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/politics/obama-and-xi-open-informal-meetings-in-california.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2779 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Kbanthis.... We should ALWAYS take heed, that a World War...is always Possible! World Wars are Prophecies....and it is best to keep it that way. NOT, make in into a Prediction or Self Fulfilling. We are still NOT out of the fog! Thus, we MUST keep on making PEACE...as much as we can. Sometimes, it is like 'mopping with the faucet open', but, we must proceed! PEACE is Hard work!! Edward. |
