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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 995
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 12:02 pm: | 
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Thanks for the clarifications, Earthling.
Billy and the Plejaren say, "Creation helps those who help themselves".
How true that is! :-)
Cheers!
Dyson |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 255
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 03:26 am: |
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In " And still they fly" pg no: 57
"All of the earlier prophets who have ever walked on the earth were adequately trained for their mission, long before their birth and in earlier lives as well"
"long before their birth and in earlier lives as well"
Does this mean that these prophets were also been contacted & trained by ET's, in those lives in which they were not prophets but just like normal people
Without love & compassion, meditation is meaningless - Jiddu Krishnamurthy
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Edward
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Post Number: 1884
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 12:17 am: |
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Hi Mahigitam....
I think, myself, that as a 'little' prophet, if you will...or, your mentioned
'normal person/individual' they would have received: Telepathic Impulses. Most
of us know by now, in such way the Plejarans (as well as the Giza Boys)
directed certain date to an individual; it be Consciously or Unconsciously
known to the individual; but, in most cases it was Unconsciously.
Edward. |
Fredrik
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 02:27 pm: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXtTQkxlrOw
I recently posted a clip on Youtube with myself playng the song "Silent revolution of truth".This is a thoughtful phrace that means a great deal of personal work in all of us.It's a process that not gonna happen over a night or in a short time.It must grow step by step and let it take its time.
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Gib_niner
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Post Number: 132
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 04:37 pm: |
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hey Frederik - sounds good to me!
and all chords and lyrics included - so now i can learn it too!  )
cheers mate. nice one.
Dig the well before you are thirsty. ~Chinese Proverb
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Sauroman11
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 12:28 pm: |
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Hello, I have this big question – is whole Billy Meier contact with plejaren extraterrestrials and UFO appearances somekind intelligence test as Terence Mckenna is suggesting? No contactee including George Adamski and Billy Meier have never presented evidence that would be undisputable and appropriate according terrestrial science standarts. Billy Meier case already is widely called total hoax by one and while other believe in his every word, are in his cult and worship him like God. Some time ago I asked to present new evidence: make video with modern HD quality camera, show Billy Meier telekinetic abilities and so on. I don‘t think that it would hard to make again new evidence. Now I don‘t know if these flying saucers are small, suspended models or real craft and I think it doesn‘t matter at all. I have to admit his and alien teachings really have a lot of wisdom in them and lead to path of knowledge, unlike for example GFOL or Barbara Marciniak. These benevolent nordic aliens (benevolent because humans feel attracted to aryan archetype, regard them as beautiful, master race, gods and Hitler himself gained power by manipulating their archetype) want to help us to evolve and survive. Reason that they do not want to appear I remember was that people would start worshiping them and think it is needed because people are dependent on government manipulation, patriarchal dominating rulers and silly religions. Billy Meier shows no photos of these aliens, except drawings for the same reason, right? Second reason I hypothesise is to get away from our bad corrupted thinking, reasoning. Terence Mckenna had said that culture is not our friend because it is destructive, based on male domination, hierarchy, classism, taken for granted assumptions, constipated rationalism and materialism. By terestrial way of thinking what you can't bang with hammer doesn't exist. Culture uses and abuses humanity, toxifies planet, suppreses feelings, creativity and natural value systems. In other words humankind is sick and only way heal is to open gates to imagination, dissolve Ego boundaries. He has same idea about UFO phenomenon as Carl Jung that they are symbols created by human psyche to push forward evolution. Scientists and rationalistic society is baffled by unexplainable UFO‘s and paranormal phenomena. This then forces them to change, get rid of shallow, mechanistic thinking, become open minded, more intuitive and creative.
I think that these aliens hide something from us and probably for benefit of humankind. Was this all intended uncertainty or hoax right from beginning? But I'm not implying that Billy Meier had no contact at all. Are they even material as we understand it, aliens from another dimension? I do not doubt existence of UFO‘s and extraterrestrials, just they are subtle then it is used to think about them. I have seen weird things right from early childhood: tree of the golden light(The burning bush?), holographic humanoid aliens that can pass through walls (most made of orange light) – scandinavian, reptilian and grey type. Had weird memories and lucid dreams. Can these aliens communicate through dreams, put images into subconscious? I did saw many times UFO‘s – they fly fast, sometimes flash brightly in the sky. I‘ve seen orange orb and other time 7 of them flying in chevron formation(but move freely) at tremendous speed and they were not birds. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2594
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 01:40 am: |
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Hi Sauroman11...
Welcome to the FIGU Board!
Interesting, input...there!
Well, if One has studied the Meier Materials long enough, One would indeed
come to conclusion that: HE IS....a TRUE Contactee! Of, course, we all have
to decide this for ourselves, to add.
If you do some research at Michael Horn's site(FIGU representative USA), you
will know more details and FACTS!
There is MORE PROOF....than you can handle, so to speak!!
Still, good to know that you stand OPEN to Billy Meier and not saying he does
not have contact; you think Neutrally; good.
Concerning your experiences, it would be best for you to read Guido
Moosburger's - And Yet...They Fly! - .
And Yet...They Fly!
2001 Steelmark LLC, ISBN 0-9711523-0-6;
viii, 362 pages + 40 pages of color photos + 18 pages of
appendices; translated from German to English by
Jurij Walkiw & Rebecca Walkiw, edited by Jason Steele,
Marc Juliano, Mike Whelan & Mary Jane Shippen;
released September 15, 2001 [IUFOC, Laughlin NV];
http://www.andyettheyfly.com
If you read what he has to say, in his book you can draw your own conclusion,
ok? To 'analyse' it all for yourself, without any bias, etc, from others
around you. This, will get you to THINK, for yourself, and generate YOUR
conclusion(s).
I have had multi sightings, also, just as many others here, on this board;
trying to resolve it yourself first...would be the 'therapy', so to speak, to
know more in this field of research/experience; would be my advice.
If you can (still) purchase Guido's book: Please do so! Start, from there.
Pleasant Studying...
Edward. |
Zaqwsx
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 05:13 am: |
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sauroman11. I've never known meier nor does he ever know me but let me stand my view regarding your ideas. I went here and ended up lying beside meier's and the extraterrestrial humans' words because I was once too saturated of convincing myself that UFOs, ETs, etc etc etc do simply exist. I was too sick of that already and searched again to take another step toward that beginning of the true truth. well, if you still doubt meier because of incalculable "manipulated" evidences of opposing sides, i prefer that you read first his 500+ contact reports and words translated within this and other sites (futureofmankind.co.uk, etc) after reading those, I hope you can judge everything by yourself though I'm sure you will. Please don't let yourself be blinded by countless stupid manipulated photos or whatever. photos are just photos that pleases nothing more than the eyes, but all his words shall feed you to an extent you cannot imagine.
after you're through with questions, I hope you can read with me and us and learn what is meant to all. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 606
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 10:40 am: |
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> Sauroman11,
I think you deserve a reply since you are badly misinformed.
First, in "as the time fulfills", we present over 50 specific examples of Meier's prophetically accurate scientific information. On my site and Mahigitam's there are close to 100 more. So you, and the people who have told that Meier doesn't have any scientifically valid evidence are completely incorrect.
The imaginary nonsense from GLOL, Barbara Marciniak, etc., is not to be confused with the Meier case - although that's exactly what all of the sources of disinformation are glad that you and others are doing.
Lastly, if you do your own research and review that which has been done and published by a good number of people before you may begin to understand what this is about. RIght now you are simply expressing the same kind of confusion and misunderstanding that most other uniformed people, and those who pay attention to all the garbage out there, are doing. Please educate yourself with all of the freely available information. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 783
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 11:25 pm: |
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Hi Sauroman11,
"Billy Meier case already is widely called total hoax by one and while other believe in his every word, are in his cult and worship him like God."
You mean like this:
Cheers.
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Sauroman11
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 07:06 am: |
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His evidence is not convincing. When you look at videos it is seems that these craft might be models suspended on fishing rod or photos of hubcan, weddind cake lid. Most think that it is total hoax because they look so. But I think that Billy may had contact with aliens, but different and not everything was said. Maybe he just simple contact and made it into sensation. If they want to convince world that there was real contact with ET, they should present new evidence - HD videos with some scientists as independant witnesses, Billy Meier or these aliens should show their spiritual abilities or advanced technology. If this was made deliberately on purpose to confuse terrestrial corrupted, materialistic and shallow thinking, then I would like to know more, now I,m not sure what to believe. Claim that Billy is only person who is contact with extraterrestrials is also too hefty. There are many people who report contacts with mainly grey, reptilian, nordic aliens and also light beings. Calling these paranormal experience having people just schizophrenic or liars also requires proof. BTW people who use DMT almost always report having contacts with what they describe aliens, insectoids, reptiloids. I do believe what I see, experience and statistics.
I,m somewhat familiar with his case, but have to admit I know very little what is really happening: I listened several times all audio tapes about BEAM contacts with these nordic aliens, read articles and started reading Goblet of Truth. But still I can,t find anywhere explanation to my experiences.
Object that looked like tree of golden light that did seen in childhood during day I describe in detail here: http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/20438/t1758791-ewoks-tree-of-light-myth/ But it didnt look exactly as shown in image, I,ll try to get my painting interpretation of that object here. I looked completely unnatural. I found recently that Moses did had this vision burning bush, Benny Shannon theory is that Moses was under influence of psychodelic drink called ayahuasca. Children often see paranormal, but it may be related to active, non calcified pineal gland producing excessive amounts of DMT. Also there are myths of glowing mistletoe, fern blooms. David Geoffrey seen something similar. |
Sauroman11
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2012 - 07:26 am: |
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Here's my painting interpretation of "tree of the golden light". Does anyone has idea what it might be or mean? |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 153
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 02:22 am: |
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Ramirez
The picture you posted is really annoying in a way that its painted based on enslaved mind and stupidity and should be spread publicly with such description in bold font like warning on the cigarettes! Sauroman11 is of course mistaken in his thinking of Meier as a God who gets worshiped and praised. This however is probably based solely on his "first steps" into vast material of evidence clearly showing that the truth is quite different. Remember that Meier while first time on the Great Spacer was also worried that he may have to bow and scrape in front of Ptaah. This however was ...(you can read about it). Sauroman11 could perhaps note as a newcomer that indeed also the greeting of Figu has to do with peace and wisdom and truth and knowledge. At no point the praise for any human is propagated and enforced. Moreover, Meier tells the truth about people who fell victim to their own egomania and states that "the truth is always logical". There is no place for fantasies or idols of gold suddenly erected by poor nation on the run in the middle of the desert. GoFIGU!re
Salome |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 783
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 08:25 am: |
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"The picture you posted is really annoying in a way that its painted based on enslaved mind and stupidity and should be spread publicly with such description in bold font like warning on the cigarettes!"
Surely yes very appropriate ..... worshiping the man on the balcony in rome or other cultural variations on the theme will dull your mind.
Cheers.
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Sauroman11
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 12:12 am: |
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Abdiel
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 11-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 09:38 pm: |
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The mission is to save the maiden, and to save the world. |
Scott
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Post Number: 2344
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 10:53 am: |
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From Sauroman11
Tree of Light |
Sauroman11
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 01:13 pm: |
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Thanks Scott.
So anyone has idea what it might be? In this painting to emphasize glow I painted this object at fictional night scenery. In reality I seen it during day and seen that thing from my balcony between buildings where is hill with other trees. That was one of strangest things I ever seen at childhood.
More details http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/20438/t1758791-ewoks-tree-of-light-myth/ |
Schantz
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 10:19 pm: |
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Sauroman11,
I think it's nothing more than your imagination. But from an artistic point of view, I would say if that is your original piece of artwork then you are very talented. To me it really doesn't matter what it means or where it came from. I find it very intriguing to look at and if that's your painting I admire your vision and being able to put it on canvas.
Why not just take credit for something you've created, instead of finding another reason why you may have created something? |
Edward
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Post Number: 2608
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 12:55 am: |
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Hi Sauroman11....
Could just be Jupiter or Mars, or another planet shining like a star at
night...between the trees, and thus: your...Tree of golden light....?
Many, mistake the mentioned planets as UFOs or space crafts when in reality,
this is not the case. When, in reality, it is an IFO-Identified Flying Object
(or, ISO-Identified Stationary Object). Keep, this in mind?
Edward. |
Sauroman11
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 09:05 am: |
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Schantz I remember seeing this thing fully conscious, I wasn't dreaming or imagining this, only little interpreted as apple tree (don't recall how top looked like). But I remember clearly seeing perfectly symmetric, unnaturally, simplified looking "tree" with branches. The lowest branches had two big apples as shown in painting. You have to agree that things must be seen at first before and then be part of imagination. Where I could have seen that before during 5 years of life in this world? That object either was in this space/time or somehow externally put into my mind(telepathy?).
There are many myths in different cultures about tree of life. But why this one looked so supernatural and glowed in golden light? It couldn't be neither Jupiter or Mars Edward because I seen it in broad daylight. Sun exposure could cause this, but it wasn't there and it would look different. I clearly seen this "apple tree". BTW I do have experience in identifying sky objects and some understanding in ufology.
Did Billy Meier say something about famous Moses visions such as "The burning bush"? |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 158
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 01:09 pm: |
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Sauroman11
Right, ..."famous Moses vision" in the sky? Give yourself some time and you may be ready for 10 commandments. Come on man, even if that was a flying disk or something, what would that mean/signify or change? There are millions of people all over the world who actually witnessed objects in the sky - not just painted something from their childhood. get real
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Flaming_pie
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 11-2012
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 03:26 pm: |
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Hi Sauroman11,
I have no idea what you saw but your painting is cool. I think the problem all of us have with your "tree of life" or "burning bush" is that is from religion. We deal in reality. And a glowing apple tree, as we all know, is not a real tree species. There is no logic or science that can explain what you saw. A Christian would say that a burning bush or glowing tree was a sign from 'God.' And we all know here that God is not real. So anything that you saw would have to be self created out of highly religious ideas.
And from what I've learned from the Meier contacts, the ETs don't show themselves to the earth people. So I doubt it was some extraterrestrial thing. But who knows. Maybe is was an extraterrestrial Floroid (plant-humanoid) that was checking out the planet and you came along.
Cheers,
Anthony Alagna
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