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Jacob
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Post Number: 804
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 11:02 am: | 
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My opinion about boredom and what I know about Plejaren life:
- The universe is their backyard, no part of the material universe is off limits; us Earth humans have problems traveling thousands of miles/kilometers, which usually takes hours, stress and money. The Plejarens can visit worlds we can't even imagine.
- Time travel is available, us Earth humans can't even deal with the so-called present.
- They live on a planet void of any kind of pollution, overpopulation, no disease, no crime, no need to work for money, food, transportation is free, unlimited learning; us Earth humans live on a planet heavily polluted, overpopulated, full of crime, being stuck in traffic everyday, slave to the money, limited transportation and governments and cult-religions trying their best to keep you stupid.
- The Earth human is so dumbed down, suppressed by the wealthy, politicians, cult-religions so that he only considers 'entertainment': drinking, using drugs, watching movies in which violence and murder are glorified, he is oversexed; all because without those impulses to numb him down he has (as a rule of thumb) no real goal in life because he stops learning at an early age and works until retirement and waits usually in fear for his inevitable death.
- As far as I know the Plejarens make music, create art of all kinds.
So, the question is, who has the 'boring' life, us or them?
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Sarah
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Post Number: 56
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 11:10 am: |
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I realize the point your trying to make Jacob, but pelase stop trying to redirect the jab at me. I'm not saying their activity is boring. I'm talking about how (Was it Ptaah?) mentioned how they were to serious on the planet. Also, please don't lump all Earth humans together. |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 805
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 11:24 am: |
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First of all I was not trying to redirect the jab at you at all, but just voicing my opinion in general about this topic.
The things I have mentioned are a major problem on this planet, if we want it or not, and of course not, I don't lump all the Earth humans together.
The Earth human has many good things as well, but the Earth human should keep the focus on eliminating the illogical for the time it still has a major influence on this planet.
Eduard has told the Plejarens once not to overly control their feelings and loosen up a bit.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Jay
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Post Number: 376
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 08:48 am: |
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Hi Jacob,
Is been so long at the forum for me, I haven't taken an initiative in so long to come to this forum and so now I am making a comeback, lol lol.
Jacob makes the right points in that this is what earth has become and the realities caused by so much interventions from times past. The results of all of this is the culmination of once again "WARS", "STAGNATION IN EVOLUTION", "SPIRITUAL GROWTH", the list goes on.
The way I see it now, is not likely that we can get past the wars, religions, etc for a long time to come. Technology and our advances has not created a better world either, it has created more pollution, new diseases and some which have most likely returned. The reasons for this are manifold as well as spiritual. Technology should be designed and worked on using The Directive laws of the Creation in mind so that we can evolve technologies which will benefit all human beings.
Regions of our planet are in great turmoil as Meier has placed strong emphasis on the many predictions which to my understanding has been so on point till this day.
Salome to All
JAY
Saalome and BE WELL to ALL
JAYhovaah
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Mqhassan
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Post Number: 118
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 07:21 pm: |
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Dear FIGU moderators and members,
It is great to see the Billy for Kids web with drawings of the spaceships, and a nice drawing for the Great Spacer. I do feel however that this spaceship needs to be given a greater attention by FIGU, by obtaining a true layout diagram. The only diagram for a long time was what Wendel Stevens had in his diagrams for the different spaceships. It showed the main part of the great Spacer to be a 17 km sphere with three interconnected 6km spheres to it and a long shaft that is longer than the diameter of the main sphere with a one km control center at the top.
The visualization at the Billy for kids shows the main sphere to be actually an elongated ellipsoid which look much more realistic except for the dimensions, and giving the height to be 17 Km instead. That would make the spececraft having a smaller internal volume.
I think FIGU needs to finalize and agree on its true shape and dimensions in detail
Salome
Mohammed |
Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 612
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 07:46 pm: |
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*Please note, this is a continuation of a discussion begun under The Mission>>The Pleiadians/Plejarens and the Federation>> Contact Notes
Joe: “I do find your explanation to be plausible but could you please provide a link where it mentions that the Plejaren change dimensions through a dimension gate?”
Ferbon: “…is this really so, with 80 light years, allegedly "behind" the Pleiades? Are there any references to support this?”
This information can be found in Billy’s book, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums ...Kontakte mit den Plejadiern/Plejaren.
The passage about being 80 light years beyond the Pleiades is here:
Page 208 –
„Die Heimatgestirne und Heimatplaneten der Plejadier/Plejaren, das wurde bereits erklärt, liegen nicht in oder bei den Plejadengestirnen, die von der Erde aus gesehen werden können und sich also in unserem Raum-Zeit-Gefüge befinden, sondern sie liegen jenseits dieser Gestirne noch weitere 80 Lichtjahre entfernt, folglich die Distanz von der Erde aus runde 500 Lichtjahre beträgt.“
Plejaden is the German word for Pleiades. Thus, Plejadengestirnen in the passage above refers to the Pleiades heavenly bodies.
The passage about the dimension gate is here:
Page 209 –
„Damit die Plejadier/Plejaren in unsere Dimension hineinfinden können, wurde von ihren fernen Vorfahren vor rund 52 000 Jahren in den Plejadengebieten unserer Dimension ein sogenanntes Dimensionentor erschaffen, das ihnen seither ermöglicht, je nach Belieben die Dimensionen zu wechseln.“
The passage also states that the dimension gate was created by their ancestors about 52,000 years ago.
Later on, it is explained that this dimension gate is also used as a communication canal by which it is possible for the Plejaren at any time to maintain their communication between both dimensions, even without time delay, because their communication signals utilize a technology by which artificial levels of spiritual energy sources are transmitted in which the transmission speed has virtually no borders, and a signal arrives milliards of light years distant at the moment in which it is sent out.
Regards
Bob |
Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 66
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 06:15 pm: |
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Phi_spiral
This is certainly helpful.
I also think Plejarens mentioned, that they are shifted some 3500 years comparing to us. Although, they possibly mean their technology/spiritual advancement. Because, even if Pleiades (stars -as we see them) are still young and inhabitable, wouldn't that mean billions of years to get to the point of atmosphere and life development on them?
It was also (to my surprise) said that there is no certainty if life will ever be possible on them!
I can also recall Ptaah/Quetzel? explaining, that in their dimension, planets/systems? are more densely spaced than in "Milky Way" galaxy and if you wanted (in their time) to travel back to Earth - there wouldn't be one.
I don't want to break my teeth on this one. Can anyone shed some more light in regard to above?
Salome |
Jokoveltman
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 04:18 am: |
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Ferbon,
Erra (the Plejaren "homeworld") is only shifted a fraction of a second. Both their technological and spiritual development are quite a bit further ahead than that ;)
Salome,
Timothy |
Joe
Member
Post Number: 201
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 01:02 pm: |
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Excerpt from the book "And Yet They Fly (Page 9)"
"The well-known seven-star system of the Pleiades is an open star cluster in the constellation Taurus - 420 light years distant from us - and is composed of relatively young stars, planets etc. The designation "seven-star system" is derived from the fact that at least seven sparkling stars can be seen with the naked eye on a clear and starry night in the northern winter sky. However, the planets of this system are in a developmental phase that is still totally unsuitable for human life forms at the present time. The home stars and planets of the Pleiadians, with whom Billy Meier maintains contacts, are located in the same region of the sky. However, they exist in another space-and-time configuration and are an additional 80 light years beyond the Pleiades. One of the sun systems located there bears the name "Tayget," the central star, which is orbited by ten planets; four of these are inhabited. Those human beings living there we call Pleiadians. Yet they call themselves Plejaren (pronounced pleh-yar-en) according to their system, which bears the name Plejaren. The closest planet resembling the earth is called "Erra," and the home of the Errans is located there;"
End of Excerpt.
On the one hand it does give the explanation where the Plejaren come from but on the other hand nothing is mentioned about there being a dimension door as Bob himself pointed out from the book "Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums ...Kontakte mit den Plejadiern/Plejaren."
I have found another link which quotes from another book which was published by Billy in 1996 called "Die Wahreit über die Plejaden (The truth about the Plejarans) Page 162."
"In order for the Plejarans to find their way into our dimension a so called dimension door was created in the area of the Pleiades in our dimension for about 52,000 year ago."
The English translation of the word "Plejaren" is spelt "Plejarans" for some reason which I think is incorrect.
Scroll down to where it says "Where Semjase comes from"
http://meiersaken.info/semjase.html |
Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 68
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 08:26 am: |
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Joe -
great link! All data actually make sense. There are still some stark inconsistencies (at least in my perception), namely statement from the book - "The truth about Plejarens" (1996, page 162), and I quote "... the most Earth like planet is called Erra, which is also the administrative planet of the Plejaran federation, whose allies are found in a distance of up to 6 billion light years away."
Despite above quote, Plejarens take Billy all over the shop, to the universe' barrier, DAL universe, etc. much, much furher than 6 billion light years away from Erra. It is also stated that in the areas where Plejarens don't have direct jurisdiction - other, highly developed races, are responsible for maintaining Creation's laws. Such races are also friends with Plejarens.
As for now , I don't see rational connection in those facts and the above quote from the book.
Salome |
Verlanis
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 09:16 pm: |
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The only thing I wonder is how much affect Tantalum 180m plays in their technology.
Nature reveals all to those who search.
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Sauroman11
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 11:59 pm: |
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How plejaren ray/stun gun works? This technology could help save lives because traditional guns use lethal projectiles. I heard Bob Lazar physicist who claimed to be working in secret facilities with extraterrestrial technologies. He described neutron beam weapon focused by gravity lens and called "Sidekick". |
Lemontree
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 02:03 am: |
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Just something curoius: http://www.mindpowernews.com/WomanFromAnotherUniverse.htm if anyone knows what the heck is that, scum or real? |
Verlanis
Member
Post Number: 37
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 06:38 pm: |
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Lemontree, I have to assume that the stories may be false or otherwise due to the lack of referencing for the stories related in the article. The internet is a tabloid of epic proportions at times. haha.v
Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key.
I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. --
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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 197
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:45 pm: |
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hi Lemontree:
The last story on that page (The professor's drive into oblivion) is a load of jokes which tells of the veracity/validity and trust-worthynes of that website altogether. At least they left a clue to the lie.
The "El Tiempo" newspaper and the "ULA" University happen to be located in Colombia, not in Venezuela, like is indicated in that article; Unless I come from an Alter-Colombia on a parallel world or out of the sudden Colombia and Venezuela joined in together after I left South-America 12 years ago, on this time-line that is.
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Lemontree
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 10:11 am: |
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thanks ok |
Sauroman11
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 01:32 am: |
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I think my question was forgotten. So I would like to hear more about plejaren used weapons. What kind of technology they use?
Also found picture of alien flash gun (ray/beam weapon). Do you recognize it? Source - 2010 interview conducted by researcher Anthony F. Sanchez with a retired USAF Colonel to recall the events surrounding a classified 1979 incident which took place at Dulce, NM.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/87/alienflashgun.jpg
(Message edited by scott on January 16, 2013) |
Votan
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 12:44 pm: |
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Sauromann11
Looks more like a nut cracker than a ray gun.
joe
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Sauroman11
Member
Post Number: 40
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 07:56 am: |
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They don't need to look like terrestrial guns because they are used by aliens who have different anatomy and technology. |
Abdiel
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 11-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 08:07 am: |
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Jacob said: - They live on a planet void of any kind of pollution, overpopulation, no disease, no crime, no need to work for money, food, transportation is free, unlimited learning; us Earth humans live on a planet heavily polluted, overpopulated, full of crime, being stuck in traffic everyday, slave to the money, limited transportation and governments and cult-religions trying their best to keep you stupid.
Response: They are fortunate that they are one race. we (terrestrials) are composed by many races and the worlds composed by many races are condemned to the auto-destruction. |
Verlanis
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 12:54 am: |
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For the formation of a Ray Gun that would be similar to the 600 year old one that Alena and Menara let Billy play with, it would require some technology that we currently do possess but cannot quite mass produce. This would include: Miles of graphene to be the battery pack, a x-ray laser like that on the Curiosity probe, an electricity/heat feedback loop to turn the excess heat into electricity for the graphene battery, and some light weight heat resistant ceramics for the casing.
Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key.
I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. --
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 241
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 07:57 pm: |
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Abdiel: viva le difference!
Should we all end up looking and acting the same, so much wonderful variety would be lost. Instead of pointing out how wonderful the Plejaren model is because they have only one race, lets find a way to respect our differences without all having to become the same.
Life
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Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 627
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 09:23 am: |
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Abdiel: “They are fortunate that they are one race. we (terrestrials) are composed by many races and the worlds composed by many races are condemned to the auto-destruction.”
It is not that the world is composed of many races that is the problem, it is that the world is composed of people with too wide of a difference in consciousness evolution. Billy touches on this in Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums ..
In the Plejaren model, there are no politicians or political parties as on earth but rather 2,800 spirit leaders per planet which form a central planet government who interact and dialogue with reciprocal leaders of other planets. There is an additional 28,000 spirit leaders (again staying with the multiple of 7) which interacts directly with the nation people and teach. They try, with all means available to them, to also guarantee that the spiritual development according to consciousness of the people as a nation is moderated to approximately the same level of evolution to insure that no more glaring evolution differences exist as it is the case on earth.
„Diese bemühen sich mit allen ihnen zur Verfügung stehenden Mitteln auch darum, die geistige und bewusstseinsmässige Fortentwicklung der Menschen zu gewährleisten, wodurch sich jeweils praktisch ein ganzes Volk annähernd in die gleiche Evolutionsstufe einpendelt, wodurch keine krassen Evolutionsunterschiede mehr gegeben sind, wie dies auf der Erde der Fall ist.“
Page 212, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums ...Kontakte mit den Plejadiern/Plejaren
Regards
Bob |
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